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Politics (as usual) is the art of the possible, but with God ALL things are possible!!
Aug 16, 2012 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 08/16/2012 12:24:18 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

I've been told that we must accept the liberal progressive abortion/homosexual pushing Republican Mitt Romney because we can do no better, that politics is the art of the possible.

Respectfully, I place my faith in God, not politics. With God ALL things are possible.

They say the man who for thirty or more years of his adult life advocated for abortion and homosexual rights and every other leftist cause that came down the pike is suddenly pro-life (and, according to Romney's recent lies, he's ALWAYS been pro-life).

Well, if Romney is serious about the fight for life, he should be forceful about it and immediately lay out his plans to overturn Roe v Wade and whatever other unconstitutional judicial rulings stand in the way of outlawing abortion. He should lay out his plans of impeaching all leftist activist judges that are usurping the constitution. He should declare war on the usurping abortionist/homosexualist/communist statist left!! He should layout his plans for expelling all the corrupt leftist usurpers from the congress.

He should announce his intentions of forever defunding Planned Parenthood and any and all other political groups (left, right or in between) now unconstitutionally drawing taxpayer funds! He should declare war on the abortion industry!! He should declare war on the unconstitutional homosexual agenda!! He should forcefully defend the constitution and our God-given unalienable rights to life and liberty to the hilt!!

He should consult with Ryan who apparently gets it that our rights come from God. He should deputize Ryan to lead the war against the corrupt abortionist/homosexualist/unionist communist bastards that have clearly been fighting a war against us for at least the past 50 years or more!! An unanswered war!! Don’t look now but the godless leftist bastards are winning because we do not have leaders who fight!!

We the people are rising up to fight it without leaders. We are the tea party and we're fed up and mad as hell about politics as usual and we aren't going to take it anymore!

We are legion and we are in your face!!

We need to impeach all the leftist/activist black robed rulers and get them the hell out of government!!

To hell with Romney's hundreds of pages of political plans to tweak the economy. Tweaking does not get it done!! The federal government has no business controlling or tweaking the economy anyway.

Declare war against the leftist usurpers and their unconstitutional statist government they’ve created. Defund and dismantle the unconstitutional federal beast and release the pent up free economy. Set our people free to produce, to pursue happiness, prosperity, freedom and the Glory of God!!

This is not politics as usual. Paraphasing leftist James Carville, this is wahr!!

This is open rebellion AGAINST politics as usual!! Rove, Romney, et al, just don’t get it.

Long live the tea party rebellion of which Rove, Romney and the GOP-e sneers!!

I sincerely doubt that Romney’s up to the leadership task.

Romney is a wimp!! Status quo and the continued slide into the godless socialist abyss is the best he can possibly muster. And the worse he can do is telegraphed in his record. He’s been a godless leftist usurping bastard himself for his entire adult life and I doubt that will change.

Don't believe me? here it is straight from the leftist abortionist bastard's mouth:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OQoBxZZPqU&feature=player_embedded

He should declare war against the abortionist/homosexualist left and against the growing federal behemoth and against the illegal alien invasion, but he won't. He won't do any of the above. Why? Because he wants their vote and will pander to get it.

Well, he can try for the leftist, homosexualist, illegal alien vote if he wants, but he'll never get mine. And that's for sure.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; FReeper Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: abortion; biglabor; elections; homosexualagenda; minimumwage; prolife; romney; teaparty; teapartyrebellion; unions
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Just abide by the constitution and defend our God-given unalienable rights. Liberty and the free economy will flourish.
1 posted on 08/16/2012 12:24:30 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson

Amen, brother.


2 posted on 08/16/2012 12:26:15 PM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Jim Robinson

BTTT! Thank you very much!


3 posted on 08/16/2012 12:39:43 PM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93destr)
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To: Jim Robinson

Romney can be redeemed, as can anyone. Ryan will help.


4 posted on 08/16/2012 12:40:45 PM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Obama Kills))
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To: Jim Robinson

Sadly true. I simply cannot violate my conscience and vote for Romney. You can put up with lesser faults in order to defeat a great evil, but you cannot support one intrinsic evil in order to avoid another. And Romney has a long record of intrinsic evil.

He was the PIONEER of gay marriage, the author of the first state gay marriage mandate forcing it on the voters. He was a pioneer of taxpayer-funded abortions disguised as “health care.”

There is absolutely no reason to think that he has changed and repented. A religious conversion? I think not, since he was already a Mormon bishop when he did those things.

Since he seems to have the RINO party nomination sewed up, we do indeed rely on God to straighten out this mess. Let us pray that God does not abandon our country for its sins. That’s about all we can do at this point: stand strong, pray, and refuse to give in to the evil that swarms around us.

Is that defeatist? I think not. Defeatist would be to give in and go along with the corrupt leaders of both parties, the press, the entertainment industry, and most of the educational establishment.

May God show us a leader or leaders whom we can follow and support.


5 posted on 08/16/2012 12:42:53 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Jim Robinson
Just abide by the constitution and defend our God-given unalienable rights. Liberty and the free economy will flourish.

That is the unalterable truth, Jim.

As shown by this map, where the union goons are held at bay, the economy is strong, even in spite of the Marxist policies now in effect:

Unionism, abortionism and homosexualism are the trio of evils that destroy not only our economy but our morality. Abolishing the minimum wage is another action that will rescue America from the brink. Boldness is needed now more than ever. Rebellion is brewing.

May God's will be done! Amen.


6 posted on 08/16/2012 12:43:37 PM PDT by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Romney’s weak non-statement about Chick-fil-A Day tells us plenty about him. He could have chosen to praise those of us who stood up to the Queer Mafia and supported religious freedom ... but instead he was worried about offending the perverts.


7 posted on 08/16/2012 12:43:37 PM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (...even more American that a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: Hardraade

Romney will lock Ryan in the closet the monent he’s elected.


8 posted on 08/16/2012 12:44:00 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Jim Robinson

He’d first have to humble himself before God. Stranger things have happened.


9 posted on 08/16/2012 12:46:06 PM PDT by Carthego delenda est
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To: Jim Robinson

Right On! Right On! Right On! Right On!
(...to borrow from Rush)


10 posted on 08/16/2012 12:48:55 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Siri: Paul Ryan 2016)
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To: Jim Robinson
Sorry, Jim, I don't like Romney's past either, but I must vote in self-defense. Unless someone else occupies the White House, Obamanation will continue.

The only person I see with the ability to beat 0bama is Romney. I don't like the guy's past, either, but I think he is more manageable than 0bama. With the Republic this far gone, we don't have the luxury of picking the pure conservative candidate. There are none left in the race.

I will vote for Romney to disrupt the 0bama regime.

11 posted on 08/16/2012 12:49:43 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (My game is disruption. I will use lethal force --my vote-- in self-defense against Obama.)
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To: Jim Robinson
Romney is not a born again conservative. He is not now nor ever will be conservative. He is a committed member of the liberal Republican elite and he is not going to change.

Romney made a good choice in picking Ryan as his running mate, but he has already let it be known he is in charge, he has his own ideas, etc. etc. Sounds to me like he won't be utilizing Ryan for anything more than window dressing. Obviously, he didn't learn anything from the McCain/Palin failed candidacy.

Even worse is that except for a handful of conservatives, the Republicans in Congress are also liberals. Some here think Romney as President can be reigned in with enough conservatives in Congress. But that's a pipe dream. There are plenty of candidates going around claiming to be conservative, but be assured they are not. They are puppets of the same liberal Republican hierarchy. Put them in office and it will be the same old, same old.

If we survive a Romney administration or an Obama dictatorship, the Republican party has to wither on the vine and replaced by a new conservative party.

12 posted on 08/16/2012 12:52:00 PM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: Jim Robinson; All

Amen brother, Amen!!!

And let’s start with the Supreme Court itself. What John Roberts did to Obamascare is legitimized it. For that I would vote IMPEACHMENT in disgrace.

Everyone of those judges should stand investigation and as needed impeachment. Kagan, Sotomayor, Ginsberg, and Stevens all need to feel the wrath of the American People. They are NOT above review. And so on down the line to the US District Judges.

Repeal the 16th Amendment. Repeal the 17th Amendment.


13 posted on 08/16/2012 12:54:19 PM PDT by el_texicano (Palinista to the core! Ryan will kick butt.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Your program for Ole Mitt is impossible.

His selection of Ryan shows a lot more promise than I had expected.

Their election could very well produce many of the things you hope for. Their loss would be GUARANTEED to eliminate any chance of them being accomplished.

Just getting that shrew out of the White House is sufficient cause for me to vote for R/R even if I weren’t a huge fan of Ryan.


14 posted on 08/16/2012 12:55:45 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Obama MUST Go. Sarah herself supports Romney.)
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To: Monterrosa-24

Romney has already stated that he’s perfectly fine with gay leaders in the scouts, gays in the military, gay adoption, and he himself ordered gay marriage to be the “law of the land” in Massachusetts, just like Roe v Wade that he advocated was settled law, even though neither were constitutionally enacted. In other words, he will duly enforce the unconstitutional leftist/homosexualist/unionist agenda from the White House. But ask him if he will strictly enforce the border? Or the constitution? And of course he is a Keynesian who believes that it’s the federal government’s responsibility to control the economy.

Can someone please point to the clause of the constitution that empowers the federal government to control the economy? The only control they legally have is to keep their noses out of areas that the constitution does not delegate to them and instead strive to keep federal spending, taxes and borrowing as low as is humanly possible.

Just abide by the constitution and leave the free economy to the free people!!


15 posted on 08/16/2012 12:57:40 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Cicero

Your thinking is like refusing to throw water on a raging fire because you don’t like the color of the bucket.

There won’t be anything left after another four years of The Disaster or by the time you can get someone acceptable to you. You know how your namesake wound up.


16 posted on 08/16/2012 12:58:58 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Obama MUST Go. Sarah herself supports Romney.)
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To: el_texicano
Repeal the 16th Amendment. Repeal the 17th Amendment.

Likewise for the 14th Amendment. Repeal it! And the enforcement of the 10th Amendment must begin now, with real teeth to guarantee State's Rights, a core underpinning of our Republic.

17 posted on 08/16/2012 1:03:19 PM PDT by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas.)
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To: Jim Robinson
With God all things are possible indeed and the state funeral for former-exile Alexander Solzhenitsyn shows that a modern voice crying in the wilderness can bring forth amazing possibilities. But three was a long period of prison, internal exile, and external exile before the coming home. Here in America, we are facing some tough times no matter how many House and Senate seats we pick up in November. Solzhenitsyn's funeral
18 posted on 08/16/2012 1:08:29 PM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (...even more American that a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: re_nortex; el_texicano
REPEAL! REPEAL!

And just how are y'all going to get all this repealin' done?

Amendment repeal has to be done by ANOTHER AMENDMENT. (See: Prohibition.) An Amendment begins with a joint resolution of Congress. So that means the Senate has to be in liberty-friendly hands. It ain't.

And if a lot of you stay home rather than vote for Romney, the Senate is going to STAY in statist hands, and no repeal will be possible.

19 posted on 08/16/2012 1:08:51 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (My game is disruption. I will use lethal force --my vote-- in self-defense against Obama.)
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To: arrogantsob
don’t like the color of the bucket.

No, I don't like killing innocent babies. There's a difference.

20 posted on 08/16/2012 1:13:25 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: All

There’s the story of the man whose house was being flooded by heavy rains. When the water was up to the porch, the sheriff’s office sent by a boat.

“I will not have the government rescue me,” said the owner. “I will wait for God to rescue me.”

When the water covered the first floor of his home, the sheriff’s office sent another boat to him.

“I will not have the government rescue me,” the owner insisted. “I will wait for God to rescue me.”

When the water was up to the roof line, the man clung to his chimney and the sheriff’s office sent a boat to him one last time.

“I am not changing my mind,” said the owner. “I will wait here for God to rescue me.”

The water came up above the chimney and the man drowned. When he arrived in Heaven, he complained that God did not rescue him from his house.

“Sure I did,” said the Lord. “I sent a boat over to you three times. It’s not my fault you were too foolish to get in.”

This illustrates, to me, how foolish some FReepers are that won’t allow an imperfect candidate to rescue them from the greater evil of Obamunism.

Ask yourself this. If God’s plan is to elect Romney so the economy begins to heal and then Romney dies in office making Ryan president, is that not far better than re-electing Obama and having him die in office so Biden becomes president?

After all, with God, all things are possible. Why not trust God to do it His way instead of insisting you know better?


21 posted on 08/16/2012 1:21:19 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (Our economy won't heal until one particular black man is unemployed.)
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To: OrangeHoof
Biden becomes president

There's a truly terrifying phrase. I had a number of conversations with friends in 08 who were convinced Palin wasn't capable of being president.

To which of course my reply was that I thought she was a great deal more capable and competent than Biden.

I think my position has been well supported over the last 3 years.

22 posted on 08/16/2012 1:29:16 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: OrangeHoof

Well, obviously, I have no control over anything but my own actions and you yours. The election of Romney may or may not be in God’s will. He leaves us and all voters with our own free will. Vote for evil, you get evil.


23 posted on 08/16/2012 1:32:21 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Sherman Logan; OrangeHoof

Make it a double impeachment. They are co conspirators in the attempted coup d’etat, y’know. Make it a constitutional crisis like there’s never been one before. If we have to leave the election of the next president with the House of Representatives, I’m fine with that. Just make sure we elect a super majority of tea party conservatives. Turn out as never before and vote straight CONSERVATIVE!!


24 posted on 08/16/2012 1:37:29 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: backwoods-engineer

Despise not the day of small things.

Before Obama, I had slim hope that the 17th could be repealed. But now in this environment, I believe it is doable especially electing the conservative candidates. Takes two thirds of both houses of Congress and then 3/4 of the states.

Obama by his lawlessness in office has done more to bring to light the need for the 17th to be repealed.

The 16th might be taller order. But if we don’t push for it, debate it, demand it and vote for people who will do it, no it would not happen.


25 posted on 08/16/2012 1:38:11 PM PDT by el_texicano (Palinista to the core! Ryan will kick butt.)
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To: OrangeHoof

There is no greater evil than that which corrupts from within.


26 posted on 08/16/2012 1:39:18 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Siri: Paul Ryan 2016)
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To: Cicero

You clearly have no chance of stopping that by refusing to oppose The Disaster.

There will be no baby-killing initiatives coming from the Romney administration and there clearly WILL BE coming from another Obama administration.


27 posted on 08/16/2012 1:40:25 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Obama MUST Go. Sarah herself supports Romney.)
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To: Cicero

BTW The Disaster is killing more than just innocent babies and will continue to do so if allowed to stay in power.


28 posted on 08/16/2012 1:47:22 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Obama MUST Go. Sarah herself supports Romney.)
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To: Jim Robinson; All
Amen.

Politics IS the art of the possible -- when Clinton won on a plurality the first time, the "possible" happened and he was forced to the right by the Republican Revolution. When he was elected by a plurality the second time, he was impeached. Talk about the art of the possible! And God lending a hand!

ABOers, there's a better way to use your vote. Forget about holding your nose and voting for Romney. Instead, HEED your nose and reject him. When your nose tells you something stinks, it's warning you it's rotten or toxic. Your nose is a wise and faithful guide. HEED IT.

USE your vote in the "art of the possible" by voting for a plurality -- voting third party. Mathematically and materially, any and all third party votes (and there will be plenty from the left) favor neither Obama nor Romney, but each and every one counts toward reducing the popular mandate of the winner. Because Obama is so very low in support and so many former supporters have abandoned him, there's very little chance he could win a majority. Good conservatives who rightly loathe Romney have been whipped up into a state of hysteria by pundits of the right, and it is dangerously near frightening them into voting for someone they KNOW is wrong.

Voting third party risks an Obama win, as it also risks a Romney win. Either way, the next president will be a liberal statist whom conservatives in Congress will have to oppose. Historically, conservatives have made great strides opposing liberal presidents elected on pluralities.

Thank you, Jim, and God bless you, Free Republic, and America. And may He help conservatives overcome the affliction of ABO before November.

29 posted on 08/16/2012 1:55:18 PM PDT by Finny (A deal with the devil is ALWAYS a losing proposition. Voting for Romney to avoid Obama is just that.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Unfortunately, I don’t think it is possible to obtain the necessary 2/3 majority of the Senate to impeach officials or judges.

Much less the 3/4 of states needed for an amendment.

That’s not the fault of politicians, it’s the fault of Americans, who are deeply split on these issues. You can’t get 2/3 or 3/4 majorities in a country split more or less 50/50.


30 posted on 08/16/2012 1:57:23 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Hardraade
Romney can be redeemed, as can anyone.

For that matter, Obama can be redeemed.

Ryan will help.

And maybe he'll bring you a pony for Christmas, too. *rolls eyes*

Pray for a plurality and vote for a plurality. It's the best hope conservatives in Congress have for overpowering the next liberal president, be he Obama or Romney.

31 posted on 08/16/2012 1:57:46 PM PDT by Finny (A deal with the devil is ALWAYS a losing proposition. Voting for Romney to avoid Obama is just that.)
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To: Jim Robinson
"We are the tea party"

TEA Taxed Enough Already is what my TEA Party stands for. You're asking for someone to do something no other electable candidate has ever advocated before, and for things that have never been discussed at any TEA Party I've ever been to. In my view, it's time to fight only the battles that can conceivably be won.

32 posted on 08/16/2012 1:57:50 PM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: Jim Robinson

Jim, after all the work I put in for what’s his name on the last presidential election I vowed never again, yet here I am encouraging the Romney vote. Granted, Romney wasnt our 1st 2nd or even 3rd choice; but I doubt our Country could withstand another 4 years of assault from Mr Executive Order. Look at the damage that has been done since he took office. Before you refuse to vote or vote 3rd party I ask you and all others to seriously consider what’s at stake. I know it sounds cliche, this is the most important election of our lifetime.


33 posted on 08/16/2012 2:02:58 PM PDT by mouse1
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To: norwaypinesavage

Well, Romney’s a big government statist just like the rest of them, so you’re protesting up the wrong tree.

Look at his record. He’s a Keynesian. He has stated that TARP and the bailouts and the stimulus spending were all good and necessary to “save” the economy and more will be necessary. He even supports global warming and shamnesty. Do you have any idea how those two items affect our economy? He also obviously supports big government intrusion into our personal lives and what SHOULD be personal choice. Ever heard of RomneyCare?

Romney is a liberal progressive big government man. Always has been, always will be.


34 posted on 08/16/2012 2:06:50 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: arrogantsob; Cicero
ArroSOB is a perfect example of someone whipped into the state of hysteria promulgated by Rush, Levin, and no doubt Romney as well. I'm sad, but not surprised, that Palin has gone, like a dead fish, with the flow, and taken the path of least resistence. She would be better off heeding her own warning that going with the flow puts you in a place crowded with dead fish.

ArrogantSOB, YOUR thinking is like opting to drink salt water when parched and adrift at sea instead of planning and strategizing to take advantage of the next fresh water rain.

We can survive another four years of Obama, especially if he is elected on an embarassing, humiliating plurality where the majority of Americans rejected him at the ballot box. He would be a joke, and a Congress with fresh new Republican and conservative faces, joined by liberal Republicans who suddenly fear for their own skins after seeing liberal Romney rejected, will successfully FIGHT and OVERCOME Obama.

If, in your desperation, you succeed in doling out salt water Romney to slate thirst for freedom, you'll end up making things worse.

35 posted on 08/16/2012 2:07:47 PM PDT by Finny (A deal with the devil is ALWAYS a losing proposition. Voting for Romney to avoid Obama is just that.)
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To: mouse1

EVERY election is the most important in our lifetimes. And they keep recruiting people like you to jam their current big government statists down our throats because we FEAR the evil bastards and are too frightened to fight them.


36 posted on 08/16/2012 2:10:27 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: mouse1

Romney is so far over the red line that he would need to borrow a pair of strong binoculars from Obama to even see it.


37 posted on 08/16/2012 2:21:25 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Siri: Paul Ryan 2016)
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To: mouse1; All
I doubt our Country could withstand another 4 years of assault from Mr Executive Order. Look at the damage that has been done since he took office.

I have both the confidence and the faith that it could -- and I believe that God would be more likely to favor us if he saw us RIGHTLY reject an agent of moral depravity as Romney has been, even at the risk of Obama. The path of least resistance -- Romney -- is for a chicken-hearted, frightented people.

Before you refuse to vote or vote 3rd party I ask you and all others to seriously consider what’s at stake.

For crying out loud, WE HAVE. Hello??

How about you? How seriously have YOU considered what you're about to sanction with your sacred vote? Before you vote for Romney, I ask you and all others to LOOK AT THE MAN'S RECORD. You will find that, for real, he has advanced and promoted every single major liberal agenda, from amoral abortion-on-demand to forcing every entity from the Boy Scouts to adoption agencies to the military to accommodate the demands of homosexuals, to global warming regulation with an eye to ultimately seeing international oversight to trump American sovereignty in the name of "saving the planet," to activist liberal judicial appointments, to being the original author of ObamaCare!

I ASK you and all others -- seriously consider what on earth you are thinking, where your head is at, that you are willing to vote FOR a man whose entire political career is one of advancing all those things? WHAT ARE YOU THINKING?

I know it sounds cliche, this is the most important election of our lifetime.

You're wrong -- it doesn't sound cliche. It IS cliche, and it is said every four years. Heed Ecclesiastes: "There is nothing new under the sun."

USE your vote to create a plurality win for whichever liberal wins. It's the best hope conservatives in Congress will have of successfully opposing his liberal agenda. Romney is a liberal registered in the Republican Party. You are on the verge of voting for a liberal, and you REAP what you SOW.

38 posted on 08/16/2012 2:26:00 PM PDT by Finny (A deal with the devil is ALWAYS a losing proposition. Voting for Romney to avoid Obama is just that.)
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To: Finny

Er ... make that “slake” the thirst for freedom. Typo!!!


39 posted on 08/16/2012 2:51:43 PM PDT by Finny (A deal with the devil is ALWAYS a losing proposition. Voting for Romney to avoid Obama is just that.)
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To: Jim Robinson
"Just abide by the constitution and defend our God-given unalienable rights."

Very well worth repeating.

If you don't vote for someone you agree with, your opinion will never be known and you will have waste your vote.

P.S. I will not be providing any mandate for Romney or Obama.

40 posted on 08/16/2012 3:00:51 PM PDT by ex-snook (without forgiveness there is no Christianity)
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To: OrangeHoof
Well said. What do churches, mosques, synagogues, temples and chapels all have in common? Lightning rods. The rain falls on the just and unjust, and there will be water if God wills it. Sometimes I don't know if I'm coming or going.
41 posted on 08/16/2012 3:24:04 PM PDT by tumblindice (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Jim Robinson

I know neither of the current candidates will get my vote.

It does make me sad though to see so many so afraid, they will not fight. Not only not fight, but call others names for taking on the fight.


42 posted on 08/16/2012 3:30:32 PM PDT by magglepuss (Don't tread on me)
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To: Finny
"Voting third party risks an Obama win"


This one's too important for a gamble like that. Third parties have never been anything but problematic spoilers. Remember, that looney-tune Perot gave Slick Willie the presidency. ABO!!!!!!!!!
43 posted on 08/16/2012 3:43:29 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine (Tosca, mi fai dimenticare Iddio!!!!!)
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To: Finny
"We can survive another four years of Obama"


I've read stories about Jews in early 30's Germany who thought and said, "That Hitler fellow can't be all bad, he just says those things to make his base happy. We'll be fine...."
44 posted on 08/16/2012 3:48:58 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine (Tosca, mi fai dimenticare Iddio!!!!!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Knowing that a vote for anyone but Romney is a vote for Obama, I am voting my conscience.


45 posted on 08/16/2012 4:08:04 PM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: spodefly

Yeah, me too and my conscience won’t let me vote FOR a known gun-grabbing, abortionist/homosexualist big government statist:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OQoBxZZPqU&feature=player_embedded


46 posted on 08/16/2012 4:12:57 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Emperor Palpatine

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OQoBxZZPqU&feature=player_embedded


47 posted on 08/16/2012 4:14:38 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Emperor Palpatine
Third parties have never been anything but problematic spoilers. Remember, that looney-tune Perot gave Slick Willie the presidency. ABO!!!!!!!!!

May I submit a hypothesis?

It is this: Every election since 1980 has been about the Republicans.

Come 1992, GHWB failed -- chiefly because he reneged on "No new taxes, read my lips." The Republican incumbent did a very unRepublican thing...and he got whacked.

In 1994, thanks chiefly to Newt, Republicans promised to do some very Republican (i.e., conservative) things. And they won a re-sounding victory.

In 1996, after the GOP Congress had caved in a face-off, they ran a placeholder against a beatable incumbent. They lost.

Shimmer dissolve to 2006. The Democrats didn't win majorities in Congress, Republicans lost them -- because they weren't passing Republican (conservative) legislation. 2008 was a repeat of 1996.

It boils down to this: If a Republican president and a Republican Congress do Republican (conservative) things, they can be re-elected for perpetuity.

48 posted on 08/16/2012 4:16:44 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: okie01
Very good list.

I really believe the communist goals of taking over one or both political parties has been achieved. And it's both.

I used to think that the left supporting gay marriage was just a difference of opinion, now however, they are outright attacking Christians for their views. Romney has not stood up against this. Heck, even Obama came out for traditional marriage in 08.

I see a lot of posts about religion of FR, and I am not a very religious person. But this is very scary stuff.

Conservatives tipped their hand before the primaries going along with the ABO mantra. ABO? of course not! Talk about showing your hand. The R's ran with it and crammed Romney down everyone throat.

I really don't believe for the GOP this is about winning. I truly don't.

Question: What would the GOP have to do to make you vote for another party? I guess McCain calling TP people trolls isn't enough. Or Boehner calling us knuckle draggers. Maybe it's Romney afraid to support Christian beliefs?

This is enough for me. I would like to know others thresh hold

49 posted on 08/16/2012 4:40:32 PM PDT by magglepuss (Don't tread on me)
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To: magglepuss
Question: What would the GOP have to do to make you vote for another party? I guess McCain calling TP people trolls isn't enough. Or Boehner calling us knuckle draggers. Maybe it's Romney afraid to support Christian beliefs?

Actually, McCain called us "assholes". His "personal assistant", Lindsay Graham, called us "bigots". And, yes, John Boehner has indeed called us "knuckle-draggers".

To me, the best solution is to displace the so-called establishment. We have the power to do so. All it takes is volunteering to be precinct captain, committeeman, etc....and working your way up. At some point, the TP displaces the establishment...and there isn't a damn thing they can do about it.

We just have to make up our minds to do it. And, near as I can tell, the process is already in motion.

It will take hard work and patience -- the latter apparently something that is in short supply among conservatives.

But that's exactly how the radicals took over the Democrat party. In 1968, they were in Grant Park, rioting. By 1972, they were in the hall, taking charge. By 1976, they were in complete command.

In the meantime, the GOP establishment is essentially useless -- but they aren't anti-American or anti-capitalist.

A third party is -- and will continue to be -- the dumbest political idea imaginable.

50 posted on 08/16/2012 4:54:46 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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