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Mennonite convicted of aiding ‘kidnapping’ for helping girl escape court-imposed lesbian ‘mother’
Life Site News ^ | August 15, 2012 | MATTHEW CULLINAN HOFFMAN

Posted on 08/16/2012 1:56:37 PM PDT by NYer

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Previous LifeSiteNews.com coverage:

* Experts testify to trauma experienced by Isabella Miller in sworn testimony now published online
* Exclusive Interview with Lisa Miller, Ex-Lesbian Fighting for Custody of Own Child against “Civil Union” Partner
* Pastor prosecuted for helping girl escape court-imposed lesbian ‘mother’
* ‘I promised God that if he would save my baby, I would leave the homosexual lifestyle’
* Lisa Miller Ordered to Hand Custody of Daughter to Former Lesbian Lover
* Ex-Lesbian Lisa Miller “Disappears” as Date Passes for Court-Ordered Transfer of Daughter to Former
* Cowardice: the state and homosexualist powers against a former lesbian and her daughter

1 posted on 08/16/2012 1:56:44 PM PDT by NYer
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To: wagglebee; little jeremiah

Sickening ping!


2 posted on 08/16/2012 1:57:31 PM PDT by NYer (Without justice, what else is the State but a great band of robbers? - St. Augustine)
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To: NYer
God Bless Pastor Miller for his stand against evil.
"Right now I’m just about ready to head off to bed for a good night’s sleep. And I intend to sleep real good.”
Sleep well, sir.
3 posted on 08/16/2012 2:08:32 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: NYer

Will those contributing to Kenneth Miller’s defense later be accused and then sued for aiding in the kidnapping?

I’m dead serious.


4 posted on 08/16/2012 2:10:46 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: NYer

A brave and godly man. Many more of us may have to take a stand before this current insane attack on the family runs its course.


5 posted on 08/16/2012 2:29:35 PM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: Persevero
A brave and godly man.

"There is no greater love..."

He tried to save the life of that poor child. May there be divine intervention to aid him for his sacrifice.

6 posted on 08/16/2012 2:35:26 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: NYer
Miller returned to the Baptist religion of her youth and consequently disavowed homosexual behavior.

But...but...but....I thought homosexuals were born that way, it was in their genetics, that it wasn't just a decision or choice they personally made to become that way. (/s for the LGBT community)

God bless her for seeing the error of her ways, repenting, and returning back to God's way.

7 posted on 08/16/2012 2:41:11 PM PDT by OB1kNOb (Vote for Paul Ryan 2012...... oh, and that other guy running on his ticket that's not Obama.)
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To: NYer; amom; DLfromthedesert; wagglebee; cripplecreek; holdonnow; tiredoflaundry; Kathy in Alaska; ..

We are at that place where there are so many laws on the books that anyone can be held as a criminal for anything.

Another story of a wronged samaritan I just read which upsets me as much as the above story about the Mennonite pastor:

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/trending-now/woman-could-fined-600-giving-children-free-lunches-192644564.html?_esi=1

“Woman Could be Fined $600 for Giving Children Free Lunches”

A woman trying to feed the kids in her neighborhood during the summer may be fined for her good deed. Angela Prattis of Chester Township, outside Philadelphia, has spent the past few months handing out free lunches to the children in her community while they’re home from school for the summer break. The food, supplied by the archdiocese of Philadelphia, helps low-income residents of the township, which has a per capita income of $19,000 a year.

The city council was alerted to Prattis’s free lunches and ruled that if she continues to give away food next summer, she will need a variance or be fined $600 a day. The council says she needs a variance because she’s giving away meals in a residential area, which is a zoning violation. However, if Prattis gets a variance to distribute the food, the administrative fees would cost up to $1,000. The Chester Township City Council has agreed to allow Prattis to continue distributing food for the duration of the summer, but next summer is a whole new battle. Currently, Prattis files paperwork weekly and is visited by a state worker biweekly to ensure she is doing what she says she’s doing.

Prattis, who does not make any money on the meal distribution, says she wanted to help make sure the neighborhood kids received at least one healthy meal a day during the summer. “You have houses here. The roofs are falling in, and they could be focused on a lot more serious issues than me feeding children,” Prattis said of the city council’s ruling.

People on the social news site Reddit are outraged by the ruling. One person said, “A woman is penalized for doing what the government, theoretically, should be doing but aren’t.” Another person wrote, “No good deed goes unpunished.” Prattis told local news crews that she will continue doing her part to help in her community.


8 posted on 08/16/2012 2:50:08 PM PDT by TEXOKIE (Nobody made a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could do only a little. EdmondBurke)
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We are at that place where there are so many laws on the books that anyone can be held as a criminal for anything.

I don't doubt that, but I don't think there was ever a time where it would have been legal to transport a minor over state lines & international borders in violation of a court order, or to assist others in doing so.

What this guy did may have been the right thing to do (or it may not have been - there's something to be said for fighting the battle within the law). But it was clearly not a legal thing to do.

9 posted on 08/16/2012 3:04:42 PM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: NYer

See my tagline.


10 posted on 08/16/2012 3:06:55 PM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah, so shall it be again.")
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To: fwdude
"Will those contributing to Kenneth Miller’s defense later be accused and then sued for aiding in the kidnapping? I’m dead serious."

I'm thinking that since the kidnapping has already taken place, contributing to his defense can not possibly be construed as contributing to the kidnapping itself.

Had you contributed money prior to the kidnapping with the knowledge that they intended to remove the girl out of harm's way, then possibly.

11 posted on 08/16/2012 3:08:05 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: NYer

“......And I intend to sleep real good.””

As well you should sir.


12 posted on 08/16/2012 3:33:47 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: fwdude

Reminds me of all the good people who risked there lives and some who gave there lives to keep Jewish children out of the hands of the Nazis. May God help this man and may his time in Prison reach many of the lost behind bars and bring them home to Christ. Amen.


13 posted on 08/16/2012 3:40:16 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: TEXOKIE

What is not obligatory is forbidden. What is not forbidden is obligatory.


14 posted on 08/16/2012 3:45:20 PM PDT by marron
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

“there’s something to be said for fighting the battle within the law”

In principle, surely. I think that goes out the window as soon as the court is about to take a child away from its parent and hand it over to a mental deviant to make a political statement. At that point, I wouldn’t keep making a principled stand fighting in the courts, I would grab my kid and get the hell out of the reach of that demented judge. That’s the right thing to do for the kid, and that’s the only thing that is really important.


15 posted on 08/16/2012 4:26:42 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Conscience of a Conservative; marron

Very good point about legality and righteous action not necessarily being the same. I guess I lost sight of that. The pastor understood that, I think, and was willing to take accountability for his actions and pay the price, whatever it is.

I think what got me exercised is that we are at the point where our laws and those enforcing the laws are not reflecting the common sense of our Judeo Christian heritage, and the good guys are now all too often found to be on the wrong side of the law.


16 posted on 08/16/2012 9:10:57 PM PDT by TEXOKIE (Nobody made a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could do only a little. EdmondBurke)
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We are at that place where there are so many laws on the books that anyone can be held as a criminal for anything.

A hallmark of socialism. Control everything, everywhere; because the People are too stupid to make their own decisions without the "help" of highly-paid government officials.

17 posted on 08/16/2012 9:12:28 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (Liberty means responsibility. That is why most men dread it. -- George Bernard Shaw)
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To: Albion Wilde

Exactly.


18 posted on 08/16/2012 9:17:03 PM PDT by TEXOKIE (Nobody made a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could do only a little. EdmondBurke)
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To: NYer

Sickening ping!


Ex Lesbian?


19 posted on 08/16/2012 9:47:28 PM PDT by xrmusn (6/98 "It is virtually impossible to clean the pond as long as the pigs are still crapping in it")
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To: TEXOKIE

A couple of things come to mind. I’ve recently been re-reading Jacque Maritain, who makes the point that law must be rooted in morality or it is not law.

Another thing comes to mind, which is Allen West, who violated the rules of engagement in order to save his troops, and then turned himself in willingly to face court-martial.

Another is the case of the young muslim girl a few years ago, who was faced with being repatriated to her home country against her will having become a Christian. Friends helped to hide her and the whole thing became a huge legal case. It only ended when she finally turned 18 and they dropped it.

Then there are the cases of preachers in Canada, Germany, and Scandinavia who have been prosecuted for speaking against homosexuality from the pulpit, and the German parents who were prosecuted for home-schooling their kids.

Sometimes your conscience may force you to act against the law, and when that happens you may have to face the music. You should do it prayerfully, your head held high before men and bowed before God. There is no easy answer, and even your friends may not agree with you when that day comes.


20 posted on 08/16/2012 9:57:21 PM PDT by marron
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