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University Of Colorado Bans Guns In Dorms(Off campus must be locked up)
thedenverchannel.com ^ | 16 August, 2012 | Kim Nguyen

Posted on 08/16/2012 5:05:06 PM PDT by marktwain

BOULDER, Colo. -- The University of Colorado is barring students with concealed carry permits from bringing guns into dorms on its Boulder campus.

The policy announced Thursday is in response to a March 5 Colorado Supreme Court ruling that said CU can't ban permit holders from bringing guns to campus.

The university also said graduate students who live in university housing off the main campus will be able to have guns in their apartments if they're kept in a safe.

(Excerpt) Read more at thedenverchannel.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: banglist; co; constitution; sccc
It seems unlikely that they can require actions of students off campus in their own homes.
1 posted on 08/16/2012 5:05:20 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Hey, Mr Criminal.... Rob me. I’m unarmed.....


2 posted on 08/16/2012 5:10:44 PM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: marktwain
CU is only doing this as to housing it owns. They are saying that as a landlord we are banning guns from our property.

Same thing as the Aurora theater that purportedly banned guns from its premises.

So, if, God forbid, a shooter wants to attack the CU campus, where do you think they will go? To the area where the Supreme Court said they can't ban guns or to the gun free area???

3 posted on 08/16/2012 5:11:58 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: marktwain

36 square miles surrounded by reality. Good engineering program but the rest of it.. sheesh, wouldn’t waist a farthing.


4 posted on 08/16/2012 5:12:27 PM PDT by Track9 (Ego undermines moral courage.)
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To: marktwain
TRANSLATION:

"Let's be sure students in the University of Colorado are completely disarmed. That ought to keep psychopaths from choosing our school as a safe hunting zone." CU-Boulder Chancellor Philip P. DiStefano.

5 posted on 08/16/2012 5:12:36 PM PDT by theDentist (FYBO/FUBO; qwerty ergo typo : i type, therefore i misspelll)
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To: marktwain

I imagine that the thought of armed Americans scares the hell out of the Marxist “perfessors” that infest that joint.


6 posted on 08/16/2012 5:12:39 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Had enough of the freaks running the show yet?)
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To: marktwain

I always keep my guns locked up...that’s where they’re the most useful when they’re needed most. </sarc >


7 posted on 08/16/2012 5:14:12 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: colorado tanker
They are saying that as a landlord we are banning guns from our property.

A theater may be able to do that... I'm not sure a landlord can. Can a landlord tell you that you can't have booze in your rental?

/johnny

8 posted on 08/16/2012 5:18:17 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: marktwain
It would seem to me, that unless landlords can require renters have their guns in safes, that the university wouldn't be able to.

As far as dorms, whether a campus classroom or dorm, campus is campus. If they're legal in campus classrooms they're legal in campus dorms.

9 posted on 08/16/2012 5:19:48 PM PDT by mountn man (Happiness is not a destination, its a way of life.)
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To: marktwain

Prolly could make a “killing” selling throwing knives and technique courses.


10 posted on 08/16/2012 5:20:55 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: colorado tanker
I would say there is a slight difference between the theater and CU.

The theater is private property, whereas the university is public. Now if it were a private school, then yes, they might be able to curb guns. But I think it depends on if regular landlords can prohibit guns on their property.

11 posted on 08/16/2012 5:24:52 PM PDT by mountn man (Happiness is not a destination, its a way of life.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I don’t know the law on that, Johnny. This may just be the prelude to another lawsuit.


12 posted on 08/16/2012 5:25:06 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: colorado tanker
I know there would be heck to pay if a rental contract said 'no queers allowed'. Time to turn their rules back on them.

/johnny

13 posted on 08/16/2012 5:27:13 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: marktwain

Let the litigation begin! The University can’t act ‘in loco parentis’ for students who have reached the age of majority. The University leadership would rather die than attempt to enforce sex-segregation or impose rules prohibiting co-habitation. Indeed, maybe even they are now operating a ‘public accommodation’.

Q: How is a dorm different than a motel? A: the hotel operator is far quicker to kick out unruly occupants.

The University can’t have it both ways, especially after Heller.


14 posted on 08/16/2012 5:33:46 PM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: colorado tanker

“They are saying that as a landlord we are banning guns from our property”

Don’t think they can do that without complying with the Colorado Statute. To comply, they would have to set up a perimeter around the dorms and inspect each person coming in to make sure they don’t have guns. The idea behind the provision is that if a public entity is to ban some guns by good guys, that they make sure bad guys aren’t sneaking them in.


15 posted on 08/16/2012 5:34:20 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: marktwain

So CO Supreme Court JUST told them they can’t ban permit holders from carrying, so scale back and say they will just ban them from actually possessing a firearm if they are in University Housing? As for Graduate Students off-campus - it would seem they are just itching for another lawsuit.

What do you expect in the People’s Socialist Republic of Boulder, where they believe they can ride roughshod over others’ rights simply because they don’t agree... (Gee, why does that sound familiar???)


16 posted on 08/16/2012 5:35:52 PM PDT by LibertyRocks
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To: marktwain

If the university takes so much as a penny from the federal government this should be struck down as unconstitutional.

UC is a government institution, there are NO private property rights like the theater.


17 posted on 08/16/2012 5:53:34 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine (Tosca, mi fai dimenticare Iddio!!!!!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Marxists professors should live every second of their worthless miserable lives in terror.


18 posted on 08/16/2012 5:56:31 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine (Tosca, mi fai dimenticare Iddio!!!!!)
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To: marktwain

19 posted on 08/16/2012 6:23:30 PM PDT by GregoTX (Federalist)
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To: marktwain

Meh, go to Hampden Sydney College in VA...
Guns allowed, no prob.


20 posted on 08/16/2012 6:23:44 PM PDT by matginzac
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To: gorush

If I had to keep my arsenal, unfortunately lost in a boating accident, in a safe,,,,, It would be close by. And if the combo was 37-17-39,,,, you can bet the first two numbers would already be entered, and the dial set on 38!


21 posted on 08/16/2012 6:27:38 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: marktwain

This is an invitation to kooks. “Hey look, we can’t defend ourselves.”

Just about every other university in the country has similar policies.


22 posted on 08/16/2012 7:03:56 PM PDT by pallis
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To: marktwain

Here in the People’s Republic, even with a CW permit, carrying a concealed weapon on a college campus is illegal.


23 posted on 08/16/2012 8:10:21 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (I am NOT from Vermont. I am from MA. And I don't support Romney. Please read before "assuming.")
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To: gorush
I always keep my guns locked up...that’s where they’re the most useful when they’re needed most.

Grin... I get the sarcasm.

As I read your post, I have my 9mm literally on the desk in front of the computer monitor. As someone who is in a position to know pointed out to me - you don't want your personal defense weapon under your bed. You want it with you at all times, even at home. Increasingly home invasions are happening when people are not in bed asleep. These guys know that's where you probably have a firearm within reach, so they do their thing when you're not in bed. So everyone, keep your firearms on your person or within reach at all times. You don't want someone to kick in your door, and then realize they are between you and your self defense weapon.

24 posted on 08/16/2012 8:13:27 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: colorado tanker
CU is only doing this as to housing it owns. They are saying that as a landlord we are banning guns from our property.

That is a violation of the law; specifically the State's constitution:

Art. II, Section 13

The right of no person to keep and bear arms in defense of his home, person and property, or in aid of the civil power when thereto legally summoned, shall be called in question; but nothing herein contained shall be construed to justify the practice of carrying concealed weapons.

Arguing that they, as landlord, can ban guns from their property is in accordance and harmony with the State's Constitution is the same argument as saying that contracts of an employee may be binding upon their children (i.e. that their involuntary servitude isn't involuntary servitude because their guardian authorized it).

25 posted on 08/16/2012 9:23:58 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: JRandomFreeper
A theater may be able to do that..

No, that is not the case; CO State constitution, Art. II, Section 13:
The right of no person to keep and bear arms in defense of his home, person and property, or in aid of the civil power when thereto legally summoned, shall be called in question; but nothing herein contained shall be construed to justify the practice of carrying concealed weapons.

26 posted on 08/16/2012 9:27:16 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: marktwain

I’m a sick man. I’m going to Vegas to put money on the line of CU being the next campus some left wing nut shoots and kills people.


27 posted on 08/16/2012 9:28:41 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Democrats are dangerous and evil. Republicans are useless and useful idiots.)
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To: Emperor Palpatine
UC is a government institution, there are NO private property rights like the theater.

Irrelevant. In CO the right to keep and bear arms cannot legally be questioned, much less denied. See post 35.

28 posted on 08/16/2012 9:32:06 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark
If you want to split hairs, if he is a renter, it isn't "his" home - it's the landlord's.

There will probably be a lawsuit and I can't tell you how it might come out. It's only recently the courts have acknowledged the Second Amendment is an individual right.

29 posted on 08/17/2012 9:39:40 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: colorado tanker
If you want to split hairs, if he is a renter, it isn't "his" home - it's the landlord's.

Even so, what about "person or property"?

There will probably be a lawsuit and I can't tell you how it might come out. It's only recently the courts have acknowledged the Second Amendment is an individual right.

I did not cite the second amendment, nor does the second need to be cited in such a case; if it were, however, it should be in conjunction with 18 USC § 242 - Deprivation of rights under color of law, which is a felony... and considering it is a school, and there are multiple people involved in policy creation, 18 USC § 241 - Conspiracy against rights also applies.

30 posted on 08/17/2012 2:36:44 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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