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Spanish pledge of allegiance causes uproar (New Mexico)
koat.com ^ | 8-16-12 | KOAT (ABC)

Posted on 08/16/2012 5:29:10 PM PDT by dynachrome

CORRALES, N.M. - A controversy emerged Tuesday night at the Corrales Village council meeting when the audience was asked to say the pledge of allegiance in Spanish.

The words in Spanish on a projector didn't help, and even after the mayor explained that it's a village tradition, the crowd defiantly said the pledge in English.

Corrales Mayor Phil Gasteyer said the incident was disrespectful, unfortunate and embarrassing.

"There was some disrespect shown to the village and its residents," Gasteyer said.

The mayor said he's never had a crowd challenge the Spanish language before.

He said it could have something to do with who was in the crowd, because many attended to voice their opposition to an open carry gun ban.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: New Mexico
KEYWORDS: aztlan; bang; corralesvillage; english; illegals; newmexico; pledge; reconquista
This town is not part of America anymore.
1 posted on 08/16/2012 5:29:18 PM PDT by dynachrome
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To: dynachrome
the crowd defiantly said the pledge in English.

hey CONGRESS are you paying attention?

2 posted on 08/16/2012 5:34:15 PM PDT by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: dynachrome

He said it could have something to do with who was in the crowd, because many attended to voice their opposition to an open carry gun ban.

Ahah, more “Code Words”.


3 posted on 08/16/2012 5:34:41 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: dynachrome

It was disrespectful to ask Americans to say the Pledge of Allegiance in Spanish/

They need a new Mayor.


4 posted on 08/16/2012 5:38:04 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Venturer

I would guess that most of the time, the people at the meetings don’t consider themselves Americans. Hispanics,mexicans, etc., maybe


5 posted on 08/16/2012 5:39:43 PM PDT by dynachrome ("Our forefathers didn't bury their guns. They buried those that tried to take them.")
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To: dynachrome

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corrales,_New_Mexico


6 posted on 08/16/2012 5:40:37 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: dynachrome

This mayor needs to be gotten rid of.

Him and all who agree with him.

There’s nothing wrong with knowing other languages. I know several........But for everyday stuff, and all else, English only in America.

I see no reason to press one for English and refuse to do business with businesses who cater to illegal aliens in this manner.


7 posted on 08/16/2012 5:43:09 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine (Tosca, mi fai dimenticare Iddio!!!!!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

“As of the census[3] of 2000
Hispanic or Latino of any race were 25.55% of the population.”

And 12 years later?


8 posted on 08/16/2012 5:44:06 PM PDT by dynachrome ("Our forefathers didn't bury their guns. They buried those that tried to take them.")
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To: dynachrome

Not that I approve but you have to remember that Spanish and English are both official languages of New Mexico per its constitution.


9 posted on 08/16/2012 5:45:11 PM PDT by tiki
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To: dynachrome

They only want to honor 300 years of history? How about whoever lived there before the Spanish speaking people? They are disrespecting those people, some of whose descendants are living there today.

http://www.aaanativearts.com/tribes-by-states/new_mexico_tribes.htm

If these clowns want to be “inclusive,” and “historic” they have some work to do. The Sandia people lived there about 25,000 BC. I wonder what language they would say our Pledge of Allegiance in? ;-)


10 posted on 08/16/2012 5:46:45 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: tiki

I’m sorry to hear that. It divides the state and divides countries when you have more than one official language.


11 posted on 08/16/2012 5:47:46 PM PDT by dynachrome ("Our forefathers didn't bury their guns. They buried those that tried to take them.")
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To: tiki
Not that I approve but you have to remember that Spanish and English are both official languages of New Mexico per its constitution.

Indeed; what is more disconcerting is the open carry ban enacted [or planned to be enacted] by the city.

The New Mexico State Constitution clearly prevents such a thing; Art II, Sec 6, sentence 2:
No county or municipality shall regulate, in any way, an incident of the right to keep and bear arms.

12 posted on 08/16/2012 5:52:03 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: dynachrome

A subtle hint, Mayor. People have had enough.


14 posted on 08/16/2012 5:58:48 PM PDT by YHAOS (you betcha!)
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To: dynachrome

I say drive all of those bastards back over the border. If they are illegal aliens, they don’t belong here so throw them out. If the are legal here but feel that what way, throw them out also. All of them are probably sucking up U.S. largesse anyway.
The gloves are off. I am fed up with these opportunistic lay abouts.


15 posted on 08/16/2012 6:02:12 PM PDT by AlphaOneAlpha
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To: AlphaOneAlpha

They’re opportunistic layabouts because they speak Spanish, in a border area where Spanish has pretty much always been spoken, alongside English? This isn’t an issue of immigrants refusing to learn English - this is an issue of people living in an area with a long tradition of Spanish. Nearly 50 percent of people in NM speak Spanish (far more than any other state), and thay is even more true in certain parts of the state. Hell, New Mexico even has its own separate Spanish dialect.


16 posted on 08/16/2012 6:13:25 PM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: dynachrome
"This town is not part of America anymore."

Well, that may be the way that mayor thinks, but it sure as hell isn't the way American's think - and Americans sure as shootin' aren't going to give it over to Mexico.

17 posted on 08/16/2012 6:20:51 PM PDT by Ron C.
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To: dynachrome
I think this article will explain it:

Firearms Restrictions Plan Fails in Corrales (NM)

The meeting was attended by about 30 Second Amendment supporters who were vocal in their opposition to the proposed gun ban and apparently to the Pledge being recited in Spanish, also. Good for them!!

18 posted on 08/16/2012 6:26:38 PM PDT by CedarDave (Palin/Ryan -- both should have been at the top of the ticket and not play second fiddle to GOPe)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative
Well, I grew up in NM and Corrales is nowhere near the border - it's a suburb NORTH of Albuquerque. Furthermore, that town was founded by American farmers.

I went to that town often to buy apple cider... and today racially the town is roughly 80 percent white American, 20 percent Hispanic.

So this isn't a town that even comes close to being a town where 'Spanish' is predominant - and never has been that I've seen since my first visit there in the late 40's.

19 posted on 08/16/2012 6:38:33 PM PDT by Ron C.
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To: dynachrome
talk about through the looking glass...
20 posted on 08/16/2012 6:43:23 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: dynachrome

How can a city ban open carry when it is protected in the state constitution?


21 posted on 08/16/2012 6:45:11 PM PDT by pallis
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To: dynachrome

Uh, Mayor? That little wave lapping around your ankles? That’s the leading edge of a tsunami. Better head to higher ground, bud, because when it breaks, it’s too late to talk about it.


22 posted on 08/16/2012 6:48:35 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: dynachrome

There never was a hyphenated American that was a good American.


23 posted on 08/16/2012 7:05:28 PM PDT by RC one
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To: AlphaOneAlpha

IMO the big mistake was in naming the state New MEXICO in the first place. I say, after you finish throwing out the illegals and the disloyal citizens, hold a naming contest and give the place an American name.

A NATIVE American name, to be more precise.....like Geronimo or Cochise.....both names of authentic historical figures in their local history./Semi-Sarc.


24 posted on 08/16/2012 7:13:16 PM PDT by Tucker39 ( Psa 68:19Blessed be the Lord, who daily loadeth us with benefits; even the God of our salvation.KJV)
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To: tiki

Then maybe it was just English-speaking Americans asserting their rights for once.


25 posted on 08/16/2012 7:16:16 PM PDT by stevio (God, guns, guts.)
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To: dynachrome

New Mexico hasn’t belonged to Spain since 1821. Juan Carlos seems to be a decent man but there is no reason for people living in a town in the United States of America to pledge allegiance to the king of Spain.


26 posted on 08/16/2012 8:08:54 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: dynachrome; All

” - - - and even after the mayor explained that it’s a village tradition, the crowd defiantly said the pledge in English.”

Obama made sure that Illegal Aliens are his tools to help him continue to destroy America when he signed his illegal Executive Order for backdoor amnesty for young illegals.

Now that Obama has made his evil intent crystal clear, we Americans need no longer tolerate illegal aliens.

Y’all had a long run living off of our Tax Dollar Welfare, and now it is time to git along home.

BTW, take your “village tradition” and put it where the Sun don’t shine.


27 posted on 08/16/2012 8:13:47 PM PDT by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: dynachrome

Corrales is 27% Hispanic (68% non-Hispanic White) as of 2010.


28 posted on 08/16/2012 8:22:53 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (If you like lying Socialist dirtbags, you'll love Slick Willard)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative
Bullcrap.

The Village of Corrales is a small, treasured oasis located within a large, fast-growing metropolitan area. The Village is bordered on the east by the Rio Grande and, across the river, by the Sandia Indian Reservation. To the south is the City of Albuquerque while to the west and north is the City of Rio Rancho.

29 posted on 08/16/2012 8:23:01 PM PDT by Eaker (Stripping Americans of their freedom and dignity and rubbing their noses in it is a very bad idea.)
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To: dynachrome

Actually is. I think I have read the New Mexico is the only state with two official languages. English and Spanish. It is part of their state constitution dating from 1912. But if ‘Corrales Mayor Phil Gasteyer said the incident was disrespectful, unfortunate and embarrassing’ maybe he should just bar the village residents from attending the public town council meetings.


30 posted on 08/16/2012 8:45:43 PM PDT by Tupelo (Sara Palin.............my write in vote for 2012)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

Our money is not printed in Spanish. The Constitution is not printed in Spanish. The wars America fought, to win our independence, to preserve our freedom and to bring freedom to others weren’t won speaking Spanish.


31 posted on 08/16/2012 9:18:28 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: dynachrome

To all of you out there. Really need to read your history. New Mexico was called this before Mexico was called Mexico. I was there at the meeting and I say the Pledge of Allegiance in English. English is what brings this country together and disapprove of this practice. Haven’t been to many of the meetings lately but will sure be attending more to correct this stupid idea. My family and relatives do not approve of this either. By the way, I am an AMERICAN with a Spanish last name.


32 posted on 08/16/2012 9:55:29 PM PDT by OKCorral
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To: Emperor Palpatine

“There’s nothing wrong with knowing other languages. I know several”

I speak Okie! :-)


33 posted on 08/16/2012 9:57:06 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX ( The state is the great fiction by which everybody seeks to live at the expense of everybody else. ~)
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To: Pining_4_TX
I speak Okie! :-)

Chicken fried, snooker, football, red beer.

34 posted on 08/16/2012 10:04:04 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: dynachrome

As long as the words are right the language doesn’t matter.


35 posted on 08/16/2012 10:06:44 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Obama, what's your plan man?)
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To: okie01

Ha, ha, don’t forget “fittin’ to”, “panch” (what you do with your thumb and “forefanger” to get hold of some tobacco), and classic phrases, such as “here’s you a straw”. :-)


36 posted on 08/16/2012 10:08:41 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX ( The state is the great fiction by which everybody seeks to live at the expense of everybody else. ~)
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To: Right Wing Assault
The Sandia people lived there about 25,000 BC.

They must have been real lonely.

37 posted on 08/16/2012 10:15:24 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Obama, what's your plan man?)
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To: Pining_4_TX

I speak a colorful dialect, too.

Pittsburghese.

Yinz can read all about it n’at here:

www.Pittsburghese.com

Now I gotta redd-up the hahs and take me my shahr before I go dahntahn to Primanny’s for a sammich and an Ahrn City....


38 posted on 08/17/2012 3:55:44 AM PDT by Emperor Palpatine (Tosca, mi fai dimenticare Iddio!!!!!)
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To: OKCorral

Is the translation exact? That would be my biggest concern.


39 posted on 08/17/2012 6:16:14 AM PDT by Vinnie (A)
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To: Mike Darancette
They must have been real lonely.

And no Chick-fil-a.

40 posted on 08/17/2012 7:34:58 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: dynachrome; LegendHasIt; Rogle; leapfrog0202; Santa Fe_Conservative; DesertDreamer; ...

NM list PING!

I may not PING for all New Mexico articles. To see New Mexico articles by topic click here: New Mexico Topics

To see NM articles by keyword, click here: New Mexico Keywords

To see the NM Message Page, click here: New Mexico Messages

(The NM list is available on my FR homepage for anyone to use. Let me know if you wish to be added or removed from the list.)

41 posted on 08/17/2012 3:32:43 PM PDT by CedarDave (Palin/Ryan -- both should have been at the top of the ticket and not play second fiddle to GOPe)
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To: tiki

So why did the mayor say that English version was disrespectful ?

Can’t white wash this cow crap with what occurred per the story.

Trust what ya say but not valid in this case as the mayor / council members should have respected both languages in this case per the state constitution

My opinion...


42 posted on 08/17/2012 9:25:11 PM PDT by Squantos
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To: Emperor Palpatine

Ha, ha, I love this! My husband was born in Pittsburgh, and his grandmother used to say many of these things. I particularly remember wondering how they got “redd-up” for tidying a place. Thanks for sharing this.


43 posted on 08/18/2012 8:57:21 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX ( The state is the great fiction by which everybody seeks to live at the expense of everybody else. ~)
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To: Ron C.

“Well, that may be the way that mayor thinks, but it sure as hell isn’t the way American’s think - and Americans sure as shootin’ aren’t going to give it over to Mexico.”


They are not going to get ANY of the states back they are trying to take back. Even if it is through slow attrition that they try.


44 posted on 08/09/2013 9:07:44 PM PDT by ourworldawry
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