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Another Afghan police attack kills 2 US servicemen
AP ^ | August 17, 2012 | KAY JOHNSON and AMIR SHAH

Posted on 08/17/2012 7:44:37 AM PDT by Timber Rattler

A newly recruited Afghan village policeman opened fire on his American allies on Friday, killing two U.S. service members minutes after they handed him his official weapon in an inauguration ceremony. It was the latest in a disturbing string of attacks by Afghan security forces on the international troops training them.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; taliban; troops
Yet another murderous betrayal by our so-called Afghan allies.
1 posted on 08/17/2012 7:44:46 AM PDT by Timber Rattler
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To: Timber Rattler

GTF outta there.

these people cannot be trusted. get out leave them totheir 10th. century living, and killing each other instead of our men.


2 posted on 08/17/2012 7:52:11 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Timber Rattler

It’s clear we are losing men due to political reasons ..the pull out was issued to please the left and our military is paying the ultimate price. our guys dont have support over there.


3 posted on 08/17/2012 7:52:35 AM PDT by dalebert
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To: Timber Rattler
A newly recruited Afghan village policeman opened fire on his American allies on Friday, killing two U.S. service members minutes after they handed him his official weapon in an inauguration ceremony.

Why not just recruit directly from a taliban training camp?/s

4 posted on 08/17/2012 7:56:14 AM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: Timber Rattler

Pull them all out. RIP.


5 posted on 08/17/2012 7:57:19 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (If you like lying Socialist dirtbags, you'll love Slick Willard)
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To: Timber Rattler; Venturer; dalebert

We can’t just cut and run like cowards.

In the last 18 months we have killed many top Al-Qaeda leaders including bin Laden, al-Rahman and al-Awlaki.

Must finish the mission.


6 posted on 08/17/2012 7:57:40 AM PDT by moonshot925
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To: Timber Rattler
The top commander of U.S. and NATO forces in Afghanistan, Gen. John Allen, said in response: "The pride of the Afghan people has been smeared by killers who pose as soldiers and police."

Allen is a sorry tool for the application of the most horrific strategy employed upon the history of warfare concerning a movement that refuses to assimilate, COIN. To continue this strategy is an example of conjuring up Benedict Arnold's spirit and fostering it upon the Generals and Commanders operating this "war" or whatever this is.
7 posted on 08/17/2012 8:04:09 AM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians)
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To: Timber Rattler

Damn it all to hell!...screw the sand monkeys!


8 posted on 08/17/2012 8:04:50 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: rollo tomasi

I don’t care about the “pride of the Afghan people,” I care about our dead servicemen, killed implementing a truly stupid policy ordered from above.

As for the Afghan people, their pride doesn’t seem to be very wounded and in fact they’re probably out there high-fiving each other in their hovels.


9 posted on 08/17/2012 8:09:16 AM PDT by livius
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To: moonshot925

Then Obama should not have pulled support. He is killion gour men.


10 posted on 08/17/2012 8:11:19 AM PDT by dalebert
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To: moonshot925

So what’s the mission now?


11 posted on 08/17/2012 8:13:56 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: moonshot925

Your opinion is duly noted, and if the kiling of these people like Bin Laden meant that there was no one to take their place I would agree.

IMO we would have to kill every Muslim in Afghanistan to win. If that would finsh the mission let’s get on with it, but fighting with todays ROE is just getting our men killed. Get out.


12 posted on 08/17/2012 8:15:22 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Timber Rattler; Mrs. B.S. Roberts

Get out troops the hell out of there. Leave behind NOTHING but enough shovels for these savages to bury each other, before or after they are dead.
The nastiest thing we can do is to leave these 10th century idiots to themselves.
It may be “politically incorrect” to say, but a single young AMERICAN life is worth more than that entire sewer.


13 posted on 08/17/2012 8:18:55 AM PDT by CaptainAmiigaf ( NY Times: We print the news as it fits our views.)
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So what’s the mission now?

The objective is the same as it has always has been.

Disrupting, dismantling and defeating Al-Qaeda. Deny sponsorship, support and sanctuary to Al-Qaeda.

We have killed so many top Al-Qaeda leaders. There is only one left and that is al-Zawahiri.

14 posted on 08/17/2012 8:27:47 AM PDT by moonshot925
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To: moonshot925
"There is only one left and that is al-Zawahiri." I would normally ROTFLMAO at that statement but since many service men and women are getting killed over an idiotic strategy I relegate your excuse as just sad.

In order to grasp your reasoning I must ask this: Is al-Zawahiri the center of gravity? What makes you think al-Zawahiri is or any other man?
15 posted on 08/17/2012 8:34:26 AM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians)
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To: CaptainAmiigaf

Let them kill each other like the drug wars in Mexico. F’em!


16 posted on 08/17/2012 8:39:03 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: Timber Rattler

Parking lot.


17 posted on 08/17/2012 8:40:42 AM PDT by bgill
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To: rollo tomasi

What other senior AQ leaders are there? He is the only one.


18 posted on 08/17/2012 8:44:03 AM PDT by moonshot925
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To: Timber Rattler

My Two cents.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHk40vfpWIE


19 posted on 08/17/2012 8:44:37 AM PDT by crazydad (-` sd)
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To: moonshot925
So you are saying if we kill/capture al-Zawahiri then the whole show will be over? Did I get that right? Do you have any idea what we are trying to do over there? Hint, it's not exclusive to getting al-Zawahiri. Also any idea how expansive that particular network is? You are a fool if you think al-Zawahiri is the “only one” and the center of gravity in the “war on Islamic terror”.
20 posted on 08/17/2012 8:52:36 AM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians)
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To: Timber Rattler

All this and yet, the rules of engagement and diplomatic weakness of this administration are not brought into the campaign. Ike promised an end to the Korean war. Nixon promised a “secret strategy” in Vietnam. Kerry ran on a promise to leave Iraq. The idiocy of Obama’s strategy in Afghanistan and the unsatisfactory termination of Iraq are apparently off limits in this campaign?


21 posted on 08/17/2012 8:55:30 AM PDT by JimSEA
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To: CaptainAmiigaf
Get out troops the hell out of there. Leave behind NOTHING but enough shovels for these savages to bury each other, before or after they are dead. The nastiest thing we can do is to leave these 10th century idiots to themselves. It may be “politically incorrect” to say, but a single young AMERICAN life is worth more than that entire sewer.

The plan is to leave soon, which makes the deaths resulting from this holding pattern all the more futile. We could have declared victory under Bush or Obama and given the "graveyard of empires" back to its inhabitants (who don't want us there anyway).

There's no strategic value any more.

22 posted on 08/17/2012 8:57:22 AM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: moonshot925

They are all replaceble with others just as bad.

Has their deaths stopped the killings?

We have a whole country of people who do not want us there. We either kill them all down to the point where they no longer fight , or we need to move on.


23 posted on 08/17/2012 8:58:08 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Venturer

So you would just cut, run and let the Taliban take Afghanistan and possibly Pakistan? So that they can give safe haven to terrorists groups who will attack us?


24 posted on 08/17/2012 9:02:51 AM PDT by moonshot925
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To: Timber Rattler

Jut like Vietnam. There’s no way to tell who the enemy is.


25 posted on 08/17/2012 9:14:06 AM PDT by aimhigh
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To: Timber Rattler

They need to screen these swines better.

Seriously, there are any number of tricks they can use to spot betrayal, like loading a revolver, firing two shots from it, and handing it to the trainee, not mentioning that the other bullets are dummies.

It works even better with a machine gun, same trick.

Be sure to make it appear that it is just the two of you, while a hidden confederate has a sniper rifle trained on the trainee. If he points the gun at you and goes “click, click”, his next sensation should be a bullet passing through him. None of this “arrest” b.s. Kill him.

Throw the body into a pit, and tell his comrades that he ran off.

Endless variations on this. And, if you don’t want to kill them, there are some subtle psychological tests that can be used to tell if someone is treacherous. Simple things that are strong indicators, if not proof positive. If they fail those tests, just wish them well and show them the door. They don’t even need to know they failed a test.

You might even give them a bogus test after the real test, with them correctly answering an obvious simple question. Then, if a future trainee answers the *opposite* of the obvious answer, you know he has been primed, so is also a traitor.


26 posted on 08/17/2012 9:15:34 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: livius

the only way to show what happens when you screw with us is to level the entire village where one of these clowns comes from everytime they do something like that. Sooner or later the word gets out, mess with the bull, you get the horns. If that means eradicating the entire nation, so be it.

If we don’t have the will to do that, get the hell out of there ASAP.


27 posted on 08/17/2012 9:18:22 AM PDT by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: moonshot925

LOL they already have safe haven there. Bin Laden was hidden by the Pakistani’s for 7 years.

We arent stopping them from doing anything they want to do there, and we pay them for the privilege of watching them do it.


28 posted on 08/17/2012 9:18:43 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Venturer

It’s not a safe haven when they’re constantly getting killed by our drones.

If we left now they wouldn’t have to worry about that and could focus all their efforts on attacking us.

Don’t forget that Pakistan has NUCLEAR WEAPONS.

What if they fell into the hands of AQ?


29 posted on 08/17/2012 9:26:13 AM PDT by moonshot925
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To: moonshot925
"So that they can give safe haven to terrorists groups who will attack us?"

Where is our trillion $$$ presence in Pakistan (They shut out our logistics in case you have not noticed) Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Syria, Libya, Egypt and the rest of Africa, lol? Remember, they got us with box cutters, not SAMS or other traditional military means. You must think Al Q will turn into a "Super Power" if we don't waste trillion$ instituting COIN. Good grief man, seek & destroy, in & out leaving a violent impression, and threaten Mecca's existence.

Our "occupation" in Afghan is the most effective recruiting tool (Other than our "satanic" way of life embracing all that is not from allah) despite how carefully the leaders tip-toe in the wilderness of COIN implementation.
30 posted on 08/17/2012 9:30:17 AM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians)
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To: moonshot925
“Don’t forget that Pakistan has NUCLEAR WEAPONS.”

That has pitiful range, “overseen” by China, and frantically trying to be preserved/fixed by western scientist. The arsenal is degrading and needs a lot of work.

31 posted on 08/17/2012 9:33:34 AM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians)
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