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Chesterfield man held in hospital on concerns over Internet posts
http://www2.timesdispatch.com/news/news/2012/aug/19/tdmet02-chesterfield-man-held-in-hospital-on-conce-ar-2140519/ ^ | August 19, 2012 | Peter Bacqué

Posted on 08/19/2012 4:58:04 AM PDT by iceskater

A Chesterfield County man and Marine veteran is in a local hospital after being picked up by federal and local law enforcement officials concerned about threatening Internet postings.

Brandon J. Raub, 26, was in Hopewell's John Randolph Medical Center on Saturday.

"I'm currently in John Randolph in the psychiatric ward being held against my will," Raub said in a telephone interview.

Reports of his detention Thursday have gone viral on the Internet.

Raub said Secret Service, FBI and Chesterfield police officers came to his home Thursday. "They were concerned about me calling for the arrest of government officials," he said.

He was taken to the Chesterfield police station and then to the hospital, he said.

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Raub said he does not own a gun.

(Excerpt) Read more at 2.timesdispatch.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: firstamendment; freespeech; marine; obama; raub; sourcetitlenoturl; unlawfuldetention; veteran; virginia
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1 posted on 08/19/2012 4:58:12 AM PDT by iceskater
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To: iceskater

Hum, all agencies deny arresting him. Probably using Patriot Act indefinite detention provisions. Where is ACLU? Where are veteran groups?


2 posted on 08/19/2012 5:05:10 AM PDT by shalom aleichem
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To: iceskater

Neither the SS or the FBI admits to having charged or arrested him; the local police department claims they are only “assisting” the FBI/SS - whoever. Yet, the man has been committed to a psychiatric ward for an indeterminate diagnosis. His crime? “Arrest some government officials” and the like. Comments one could arguably be considered far less caustic than made here on a wide number of topics.

No one in the article asks, or indicates just where the SS or the FBI got hold of the comments and connected them to Raub (the internee) or by what authority they did so.


3 posted on 08/19/2012 5:10:34 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: shalom aleichem
"Hum, all agencies deny arresting him. Probably using Patriot Act indefinite detention provisions. Where is ACLU? Where are veteran groups?"

Well, at least the authorities admit he exists. The next step might be just to disappear people.

4 posted on 08/19/2012 5:12:28 AM PDT by Truth29
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More info...

http://www.businessinsider.com/brandon-raub-marine-911-detained-2012-8?utm_source=twbutton&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=defense


5 posted on 08/19/2012 5:14:10 AM PDT by LadyEleanor
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To: Truth29
Well, at least the authorities admit he exists. The next step might be just to disappear people.

Probably some local reporter got wind and thought he'd break a real terrorism story.

In Obama's post 2012 America, pesky things like reporters will be tightly controlled - they won't be able to 'free-range' as previously.

6 posted on 08/19/2012 5:17:52 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: iceskater
Didn't the Soviets lock up "trouble makers" in psychiatric wards?

Wasn't this one of Stalin's modi operandi?

Note tagline.

7 posted on 08/19/2012 5:18:01 AM PDT by Savage Beast ("It is the forgotten past that enslaves us." --C. S. Lewis)
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Didn't the Soviets lock up "trouble makers" in psychiatric wards?

Wasn't this one of Stalin's modi operandi?

Note tagline.

8 posted on 08/19/2012 5:18:01 AM PDT by Savage Beast ("It is the forgotten past that enslaves us." --C. S. Lewis)
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To: LadyEleanor

Well, it just goes to show you that one shouldn’t use Facebook as an outlet to express one’s political thoughts.

Some rabid liberal likely just dropped a dime on him to the FBI claiming terrorism, etc. and that was all it took.


9 posted on 08/19/2012 5:22:16 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: iceskater

Someone is watching Facebook pretty closely if they are reading this guys posts.


10 posted on 08/19/2012 5:23:17 AM PDT by LadyEleanor
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To: Gaffer
Well, it just goes to show you that one shouldn’t use Facebook as an outlet to express one’s political thoughts.
You're right! It's amazing what is said on Facebook. Here's his page, it has not been removed: https://www.facebook.com/brandon.raub?sk=wall
11 posted on 08/19/2012 5:24:59 AM PDT by mlizzy (And if we accept that a mother can kill even her own child, how can we tell others not to kill? --MT)
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How many others of los desaparecidos are there? How many will there be?

Note tagline. It is not merely the forgotten distant past. The recent past is every bit as enslaving. Those (who like me are) concerned about the horrors of slavery, in all its horrifying forms, would be wise to ponder this.

12 posted on 08/19/2012 5:31:28 AM PDT by Savage Beast ("It is the forgotten past that enslaves us." --C. S. Lewis)
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Well, it just goes to show you that one shouldn’t use Facebook as an outlet to express one’s political thoughts.

Some rabid liberal likely just dropped a dime on him to the FBI claiming terrorism, etc. and that was all it took.

But no leftist activist or government agency would ever think to monitor what is said on a place like Free Republic, where logins could be traced back to IP addresses...

13 posted on 08/19/2012 5:43:53 AM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (Science puts you on the moon, atheism puts you in the gulag)
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Freightening.


14 posted on 08/19/2012 5:43:59 AM PDT by Shady (The Tea Party is the Party of the American People, Working and creating wealth in SPITE of OBAMA!)
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To: Yashcheritsiy

That’s precisely why I often practice the art of self-censorship.


15 posted on 08/19/2012 5:55:20 AM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: iceskater

Tyrants don’t change:

“...transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences..”


16 posted on 08/19/2012 5:56:49 AM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: iceskater

Tyrants don’t change:

“...transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences..”


17 posted on 08/19/2012 5:56:58 AM PDT by sergeantdave
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>> Comments one could arguably be considered far less caustic than made here on a wide number of topics.

They’d probably like to lock up a bunch of US, too... only problem is they’d have to get a subpoena to find out who we are, and they have no legal grounds for getting one.

On Facebook they already know who you are, so they just go get you.


18 posted on 08/19/2012 5:57:11 AM PDT by Nervous Tick ("You can ignore reality, but you can't ignore the consequences of ignoring reality.")
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Hell,I'm calling...right here and now...for the arrest of Osama Obama,Plugs Biden and the entire Cabinet.any LEO who wants to arrest me need only PM me and I'll provide my name and address.Please note well that I wish no physical *harm* to come to any of those I wish to see arrested!

Either someone's made a big mistake here or else this guy's done more than just call for someone's *arrest*.Hell,weren't the Rat Marxists routinely calling for W to be arrested and sent to The Hague as a war criminal?

19 posted on 08/19/2012 5:58:53 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The Word Is Out,Harry Reid's Into Child Porn.Release All Your Photos,Harry!)
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To: .45 Long Colt

>> That’s precisely why I often practice the art of self-censorship.

It’s more a discipline than an art. A discipline I seem not to have mastered sometimes...

Good for you for practicing self control.


20 posted on 08/19/2012 6:00:57 AM PDT by Nervous Tick ("You can ignore reality, but you can't ignore the consequences of ignoring reality.")
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