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To what conservative Senatorial candidate should I send my money? (vanity)
08/19/12 | Bert

Posted on 08/19/2012 6:16:39 AM PDT by bert

To what conservative Senatorial candidate should I send my money?

The preservation of conservative principle and ideals is a good thing, a necessary thing, and must be applauded. The continued application of principle to a short term situation in which all aspects of conservatism cannot be brought to bear becomes an exercise in futility and wasted time and effort.

Such is the case in the current presidential election. Conservatism cannot have an effect on choosing an opponent to run against Obama. That decision was made in the primaries. There are pretenders who will take you money and your pretend vote but the exercise is futile.

That limited restraint does not apply across the board and in fact has no bearing at all on the remaining but extreme important races for seats in the congress. The strength of the conservative movement and of Free Republic should be redirected away from the battle for presidential nominee to the other races.

For a conservative who lives in a state where the Senate incumbent is up for reelection and has no competition and has loads of money, a prudent course is to find a worthy conservative candidate elsewhere. It has been an established practice for many Freepers to shun giving money to the Republican House and Senatorial campaign committees because they do not always support conservatives. A better choice is to find a worthy candidate and contribute directly by finding his website and putting the contribution on the credit card. It is clean, quick and easy.

The question then becomes who are the Senate candidates with conservative credentials who can best use the money? Are there Senate candidates that can be as worthies for the funds we have available for contribution ( that is above and beyond the funds for keeping the doors of Free Republic open)?

I think it would be helpful if Freepers in the various states with knowledge of the candidates and their relative strengths could provide some insight. The only race I have small knowledge of is Florida where the incumbent has massive available funds and some help to the Republican candidate might be worthwhile. The problem is the Republican Mack might not be the best conservative among those across the country .

Thus the problem.

Who are the most deserving conservative candidates in need of some help?

We cannot affect the Presidential race but we can certainly provide some leverage in the Senate. That must be our course of action


TOPICS: Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: contribution; senatecandidates; vanity
The collective wisdom of Freeperdom is requested
1 posted on 08/19/2012 6:16:58 AM PDT by bert
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To: bert

What, it is breaking news that you are going to contribute money?


2 posted on 08/19/2012 6:18:33 AM PDT by Robert DeLong (u)
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To: bert
he Republican Mack might not be the best conservative among those across the country .

Still light years better than this wipe:


3 posted on 08/19/2012 6:22:40 AM PDT by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: bert

How about Deb Fisher in Nebraska? She will hopefully be replacing the execrable Ben Nelson who sold out to give us Obamacare, and her victory will be a humiliation for one of the most ridiculous liberals of all time, Bob Kerrey.

She is a solid Conservative cattle rancher from the Nebraska sandhills.


4 posted on 08/19/2012 6:26:54 AM PDT by bigbob
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To: bert

I would like to direct you to a post I made a few days ago. I’m on a iphone so I cant hyperlink it. Here are our battlegrounds.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2919126/posts


5 posted on 08/19/2012 6:28:07 AM PDT by RC one
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To: bert
Josh Mandel For Senate

Truly a two-fer! Mandel is great and he would unseat one of the worst in the Senate: Sherrod Brown.

6 posted on 08/19/2012 6:28:26 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: bert

While he’s not perfect he’s well to the right of guys like McCain and Snowe. Pete Hoekstra stands a petty good chance of dethroning Debbie Stupidcow.

http://www.hoekstraforsenate.com/unite/


7 posted on 08/19/2012 6:31:16 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: bert

Connie Mack - Florida, and/or George Allen - VA.


8 posted on 08/19/2012 6:31:59 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy
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To: bigbob

Deb Fisher doesn’t need the money. She is going to win in a landslide.


9 posted on 08/19/2012 6:33:21 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy
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To: Servant of the Cross

I forgot about Mandel. You are right. he is in a “horse race” and could use the bucks.


10 posted on 08/19/2012 6:34:32 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy
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To: Robert DeLong

Some of us have not seen this post yet. I’m happy it’s still in breaking news


11 posted on 08/19/2012 6:34:56 AM PDT by tsowellfan (Voting for Obama/Biden is like purposely swallowing two tapeworms)
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To: bert

Indiana’s Richard Mourdock, a genuine Tea Party candidate, who upset RINO Richard Lugar and is now in a close race with dem lib Joe Donnelly.


12 posted on 08/19/2012 6:35:15 AM PDT by John W (Viva Cristo Rey!)
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To: bert

Save your money ‘till 2014 and then put it on whoever is challenging Linda Graham in the primary. :)


13 posted on 08/19/2012 6:36:34 AM PDT by upchuck ("Definition of 'racist:' someone that is winning an argument with a liberal." ~ Peter Brimelow)
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To: bert
In Missouri, RCP has Todd Akin beating senator Claire McCaskill by 11 points too for net gain of 1 seat.

In Virginia, Rasmussen has democrat Tim Kaine, the Democrat picked to replace retiring Jim Webb, tied with Republican challenger George Allen, the Senator defeated by Webb in 2006. Seems like this is a good place for us to fight. It seems like we should bend over backwards to bring Virginia back into the fold actually.

In Wisconsin, in an August 5th poll, Tommy Thomson, who won the Republican nomination on August 14, 2012 after a bitter four-way primary battle is five points ahead of democrat Tammy Baldwin who is picked to replace retiring Senator Herb Kohl. Given these poll results and the 2010 surprise upset in Wisconsin when ultra liberal democrat, Russ Feingold was defeated by Ron Johnson, and the recent Gubernatorial recall election results, it seems like this would be a real real good place to fight for a senate seat-net gain 1.

No reliable polls for the Montana race since June. Given the manner in which Jon Tester won in 2006, it seems very plausible that Republican Denny Rehberg will reclaim this senate seat from the Democrats. Hard to say but I say probably net gain of 1.

In North Dakota, Republican, Rick Berg is statistically tied with Democrat Heidi Heitkamp who seeks to retain this Democratic senate seat being vacated by retiring senator Kent Conrad (D).

In Indiana, an August 1st poll has tea party candidate Richard Mourdock 2 points ahead of Democratic challenger, Joe Donnely in the Indiana senate race. Mourdock defeated Richard Lugar in the Indiana primaries, 400,321 votes to 261,285. Losing to Donnely will be bad - real bad.

In Massachusetts, 6 polls average out to a tie between Elizabeth Warren and Scott Brown who sent a shock wave through the democratic party when he took Ted Kennedy's Senate seat in a special election.

in Maine, the Republican seat held by retiring senator Olympia Snowe is now being fought over by Maine Secretary of State Charles Summers (R) and Maine State Senator, Cynthia Dill(D). Complicating this race is Maine Governor Angus King who is running as an Independent and currently polling well ahead of Summers and WAAAY ahead of Dill. The good news about this is that King was beating Summers by 28 points back in July but an August 6th poll of 500 likely voters in Maine by Moore Consulting has him beating summers by 18 points which is good but obviously not good enough. the same poll has Obama beating romney 52%-37%. king will likely caucus with demcocrats and create another Joe Lieberman situation. Maine is not looking so good. Anticipate the Dems picking up a seat in Maine.

Speaking of the Independent Joe Lieberman...Linda McMahon(R) is hoping to claim a seat for the Republicans by defeating Chris Murphy(D). A July 8th PPP poll has Murphy up by 8 points over McMahon. Murphy has soundly beaten in McMahon in every poll found at RCP between the two. Connecticut is going to the Dems. Because Lieberman caucused with the Dems, it isn't a net gain.

In Hawaii, Linda Lingle attempts to pick up a seat for the Republicans by defeating Democratic Mazie Hirono who is hoping to hold on to retiring Democrat, Daniel Akkaka's seat. Hirono is the clear favorite according to multiple polls and we should anticipate the Dems holding this seat for a net gain of zero.

In Florida, incumbent Democratic senator Bill Nelson is most recently looking good against Republican challenger, Connie Mack IV (R), although, RCP does have Mack up by o.2 points overall so this race looks very competitive.. We should, as usual, fight hard for Florida. It definitely looks to be within our grasp.

In Nebraska, the seat held by retiring democratic senator Ben Nelson is being fought over by Bob Kerrehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Kerrey(D) and Deb Fischer(R). Kerrey appears...highly accomplished and probably not some one to be underestimated. That being said, it looks like Nebraska is going to go to the Republicans this year for a net gain of 1.

In new Mexico, the seat held by retiring Democrat, Jeff Bingaman, is being fought over by Democrat Martin Heinrich and Republican Heather Wilson. RCP strongly suggests that The Democrats will hold New Mexico for a net gain of zero.

14 posted on 08/19/2012 6:38:46 AM PDT by RC one
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To: bigbob

It’s not for Senate, but for House of Representatives. I really like Mia Love in Utah. She has a very good chance of winning a Democrat seat and would be the first Republican black woman to serve in Congress. Plus she has a nice smile.

http://www.love4utah.com/


15 posted on 08/19/2012 6:39:27 AM PDT by StevenFlorida
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To: bert
While I have sent a contribution to Connie Mack IV as a vote for a Republican Senate, I sent more to Senator Jim DeMint's "Senate Conservatives Fund" PAC. His candidate list has four strong conservative candidates on it; Richard Mourdock of Indiana, Jeff Flake of Arizona, Ted Cruz of Texas and Josh Mandel of Ohio. This web site has a place where you can support this PAC and or contribute to each candidate individually. My $0.02 worth.
16 posted on 08/19/2012 6:39:34 AM PDT by SES1066 (Government is NOT the reason for my existence!)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy
he is in a “horse race” and could use the bucks.

Mandel was down 12 points just weeks ago, but has pulled even at 44-44 ....

17 posted on 08/19/2012 6:40:48 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: bert

Someone else already suggested him, Josh Mandel would be my recommendation.

Must get rid of Sherred Brown.


18 posted on 08/19/2012 6:43:58 AM PDT by deltabean (Born free, die free.)
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To: tsowellfan

It depends on how much you intend to donate. I would have no problem donating 10 bucks each to the RINO’S running in New Mexico, Hawaii, and Mass. Their seats were held for over 30 years by big time liberals. Should they be lucky enough to win we can bitch afterwards. The 3 candidates running are NOT sacrificial lambs. They DO have a chance to win.

As for any big bucks ($50+) I will defer to those who are throwing up at my post.


19 posted on 08/19/2012 6:44:51 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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To: RC one
B T T T ! ! ! ©
Excellent work!

20 posted on 08/19/2012 6:45:55 AM PDT by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

Connie Mack for sure. Mandel is a good one too. we definitely have to look at the North Dakota and I think Scott Brown will have his hands full holding on to Teddy Kennedy’s seat. And of course there’s Tommy Thomson in Wisconsin. Virginia and Montana seem like they wouldn’t need much to flip back and I can’t see Indiana turning blue over Mourdock. Hoosiers are conservatives. Deb Fischer looks like she is going to crush Kerrey which is kind of surprising. It looks Todd Akin has a large lead over McCaskill so we’re good there.


21 posted on 08/19/2012 6:47:06 AM PDT by RC one
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To: bert

Give to the close races. Mourdock in IN, Mandel in OH, Hoekstra in MI, Rehberg in MT, Berg in ND.


22 posted on 08/19/2012 6:48:26 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (If you like lying Socialist dirtbags, you'll love Slick Willard)
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To: bert

The Senate will be a hell hole until we repeal the 22 Amendment.


23 posted on 08/19/2012 6:51:08 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Corollary - Electing the same person over and over and expecting a different outcome is insanity)
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To: bert

Todd Akin.
He’s very conservative and running against Claire McCackle in Missouri.


24 posted on 08/19/2012 6:53:34 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (I didn't post this. Someone else did.)
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To: bert
Good morning.

I would say Connie Mack IV, but then again, maybe not.

5.56mm

25 posted on 08/19/2012 6:55:32 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: bert

if I had money, I think I’d send some to Ted Cruz.


26 posted on 08/19/2012 6:55:32 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: GeronL

Cruz doesn’t need it. That’s a reciepe for a minority.


27 posted on 08/19/2012 6:59:30 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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To: bert

Please consider Tom Smith in PA. He started and ran a coal company and is Tea Party in attitude. He is running against Casey, who is a Dem rubber stamp in his first reelection run, and is beatable.


28 posted on 08/19/2012 7:07:24 AM PDT by jdsteel (Give me freedom, not more government.)
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To: Servant of the Cross

I have given money to Josh Mandel and have done a little bit of volunteer work for his campaign. I decided that I was not too much into Romney (although I am getting more comfortable with him lately) so why not give to a senator race. The senate is going to be as important as winning the white house.


29 posted on 08/19/2012 7:07:55 AM PDT by BRL
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To: bert

Charlie Summers-Maine


30 posted on 08/19/2012 7:08:04 AM PDT by mirkwood
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To: RC one

Tommy Thompson is looking like a shoe-in, up ten percent in recent poll.

Money should be spent on closer races.


31 posted on 08/19/2012 7:08:29 AM PDT by damncat
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To: BRL

O .... H ......!


32 posted on 08/19/2012 7:11:46 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Servant of the Cross

I...O.. ya ya .... If you only knew what it is like to live in Columbus when you are not an OSU inbred native fan. OSU football is the official religion of central Ohio. Go to church, school function, cookout, watch TV...and you get to listen to the OSU hymns.


33 posted on 08/19/2012 7:29:05 AM PDT by BRL
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To: bert

Tom Smith in Penn could use some help. He’s been endorsed by Tea Party Express.


34 posted on 08/19/2012 7:34:34 AM PDT by donozark (I never trusted anyone above the rank of Corporal, including myself.)
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To: bert

Brilliant! ... Maybe all this vitriol being stirred up over the ABO turn to Romney (yetch, but what else we got?) can be channeled into really useful effort. We’re Freepers. We don’t have to live in a state to work for conservatism in that state.


35 posted on 08/19/2012 7:34:49 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: bmwcyle

Wha... ?


36 posted on 08/19/2012 7:35:11 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (If you like lying Socialist dirtbags, you'll love Slick Willard)
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To: RC one

Great list. Saving for later!


37 posted on 08/19/2012 7:50:13 AM PDT by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender! REMEMBER NEDA)
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To: bert

Tommy Thompson in Wisconsin who is running against the vile lib, Tammy Baldwin(who has union support and money).

He would join conservative Ron Johnson in DC and Wisconsin has a chance to go red for the first time since 1984.


38 posted on 08/19/2012 7:53:33 AM PDT by Mountain Mary (Ryan/West 2016)
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To: damncat

Maybe. or maybe we should find our six easiest battles and fortify our positions there so as to ensure a final victory in the war. I say six because six out of nine looks like the magic number.


39 posted on 08/19/2012 7:54:03 AM PDT by RC one
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To: mirkwood

maine looks a lot like a lost cause. King is 18 points ahead. He was recently 28 points ahead in a other poll. We should plan on losing Snowe’s seat so it doesn’t bite us in the ass when we do.


40 posted on 08/19/2012 7:56:32 AM PDT by RC one
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To: bigbob

Don’t send Deb Fischer a dime!

She will win easily without any more donations...

Try one of these instead:

Denny Rehberg – Montana

http://dennyrehberg.com/

John Raese – West Virginia

http://www.raeseforsenate.org/

Rick Berg – North Dakota

http://www.bergfornorthdakota.com/view/

Heather Wilson - New Mexico

http://heatherwilson.com/

Josh Mandel – Ohio

http://jobs.joshmandel.com/

Pete Hoekstra - Michigan

http://www.petespenditnot.com/

George Allen – Virginia

http://www.georgeallen.com/

Richard Mourdock – Indiana

http://richardmourdock.com/

Connie Mack – Florida

http://conniemack.com/

Charlie Summers

http://www.summersformaine.com/


41 posted on 08/19/2012 8:09:36 AM PDT by proudpapa
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To: bert

Allen West.


42 posted on 08/19/2012 8:10:40 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: RC one

Thanks RC one!


43 posted on 08/19/2012 8:20:31 AM PDT by Mountain Mary (Ryan/West 2016)
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To: bert; SWAMPSNIPER; All
"Allen West."
????...Ummmm, try (Federal) House of Representatives...Not Senator.

44 posted on 08/19/2012 8:25:05 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (WA DC E$tabli$hment; DNC/RNC/Unionists...Brazilian saying: "$@me Old $hit; w/ different flie$" :^)
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To: bert

“Such is the case in the current presidential election. Conservatism cannot have an effect on choosing an opponent to run against Obama. That decision was made in the primaries. There are pretenders who will take you money and your pretend vote but the exercise is futile.”

Such is the case for the top of the ticket. But enter Paul Ryan. He has brought some real Conservatives like me into the fold. This is not a predictor as Ryan is #2. But it sure improves the outlook and should give us hope.


45 posted on 08/19/2012 8:27:47 AM PDT by Mountain Mary (Ryan/West 2016)
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To: SES1066; bert

I second this choice. Jim DeMint is one of our best conservatives (IMHO) and his organization has your stated aim as it’s own. Might as well let an expert decide, I’m sure he knows the candidates better than most.


46 posted on 08/19/2012 10:28:40 AM PDT by matthew fuller (They'll have to pry my gun, my bible, and my chikin from my cold dead fingers.)
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To: RC one

MY thanks for the great work you have done and for bringing your previous thread here. It helps a lot to sort through all the murk to reach a decision. Below is a rough accounting of the views on the thread.

It could be said to be a conservative favorite son list. There are however some who seem to stand out. They have multiple asterisks. The Pac is an excellent idea and gets bang for the buck and seems to reflect the main views expressed on this thread. It is like a mutual fund where the decisions as to who and how much is decided by a body who knows better than I.

You placed special emphasis on 6 of 9. I would be curious to see the six and the nine. I would be interested to see how the list of six by someone who has studied the races stands up to applied Free Republic thought. It would appear that Richard Mourdock and Josh Mandel are viewed by Freepers as a good place to spend a little money where it is needed.

Rather than moan and groan about those races lost, we have an opportunity to direct conservative effort and some money towards campaigns that will put forward the conservative philosophy. We must go forward.

Those who were mentioned on the thread

Jim Demint Conservative pac ** http://senateconservatives.com/

Richard Mourdock Indiana ****
Josh Mandel Ohio ****
Connie Mack iv Florida ***
Pete Hokestra *
George Allen Virginia *
Ted Cruz of Texas *

Charlie Summers Maine * -
Jeff Flake of Arizona
Rehberg Montana
Berg New Jersey
Casey Pennsylvania
John Raese – West Virginia
Rick Berg – North Dakota
Heather Wilson - New Mexico
Deb Fisher Nebraska (doesn’t need money) **
Todd Aiken Missouri (Good lead) **
Tommy Thompson Wisconsin ( Shoo in)


47 posted on 08/19/2012 11:51:57 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: MHGinTN

——We don’t have to live in a state to work for conservatism in that state.-——

I think the various posters have given me solid food for thought. I am especially fond of the Jim Demint Pac concept.

We truly don’t have to live in the state to make an effort to promote a conservative candidate. Conservative contributions have been nationalized. The internet and the conservative PAC have obsoleted the GOP campaign fund raisers so far as conservative contributors are concerned


48 posted on 08/20/2012 6:44:33 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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