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Chick-fil-A flap embroils N.Y.U.; Vote on fall menu
The Villager ^ | Aug 19 2012 | Gary Shapiro

Posted on 08/19/2012 6:17:26 AM PDT by scottjewell

A local food fight is causing a lot of squawking in the Village.

The ruckus began when Dan Cathy, president of the Atlanta-based restaurant chain Chick-fil-A, criticized gay marriage. N.Y.U.’s Weinstein Residence Hall, which is currently closed for summer break, serves food from this company.

The Village location is the only Chick-fil-A franchise in the city.

Hillary Dworkoski, a former student at N.Y.U.’s Gallatin School of Indi-vidualized Study, caused a lot of clucking by circulating a petition at www.change.org, urging N.Y.U. to stop doing business with Chick-fil-A.

City Council Speaker Christine Quinn, who is openly gay, stirred the pot last month when she used Council letterhead in a message to university President John Sexton, asking him to cancel ties with Chick-fil-A. More feathers flew because she opened by mentioning her official capacity “as the Speaker of the NYC Council, and on behalf of my family.”

If Quinn had her way, students might have to gobble up other offerings at the Weinstein dining room on University Place, like Quiznos subs, fruit-filled pancakes and “Grab n’ Go” items like sushi.

N.Y.U.’s decision on the subject is pending. In a statement, a spokesperson said, “The recent remarks attributed to Chick-fil-A President Dan Cathy about gay marriage are out of step with N.Y.U.’s views on this matter, and with our practices.” As to the school’s next move, the statement said, “The University Administration will ask the University Senate to take up the issue of Chick-fil-A’s status on campus again when it reconvenes this fall to make a recommendation on how to proceed.”

In a written statement, Steve Robinson, Chick-fil-A executive vice president of marketing, said, “We value everyone and strive to treat all people with a caring spirit.” An online press release for the company says, “Going forward, our intent is to leave the policy debate over same-sex marriage to the government and political arena.”

Mayor Bloomberg doesn’t feel it’s government’s duty to flush Chick-fil-A out of the city. On WOR Radio’s “The John Gambling Show with Mayor Mike,” Bloomberg said it was inappropriate for “government to look at somebody’s political views and decide whether they can live in the city or operate a business in the city or work for someone in the city.”

Similarly, Gregory Angelo, chairperson of Log Cabin Republicans of New York State, representing gays and lesbians within the Republican Party, cried “fowl” at the effort to ban the chicken chain.

“I do not want elected officials making the choice of how or where to spend my money,” Angelo said.

Tina Montenegro, an N.Y.U. doctoral student in French literature, said the owner of Chick-fil-A stating his opinion “is free expression.”

Marion Nestle, a professor in the nutrition department at N.Y.U., said, “It seems to me that there are two issues here. Should N.Y.U. permit franchises on campus from fast-food companies with distasteful views about sexual preference? And should N.Y.U. permit fast-food and beverage companies to be on campus at all?”

Nestle said such fast-food companies market themselves to poor families and children both here and in developing nations.

“The Chick-fil-A issue is a good reason for N.Y.U. to reconsider all of its arrangements with fast-food and soda companies,” Nestle stated.

On another gustatory note, radio host Gambling said the chain’s chicken sandwiches were tasty. The mayor chimed in, “Never had one, I didn’t know about them until I read about them in the paper.”

The L.G.B.T. Center on W. 13th St. declined comment on the politically incorrect poultry place.

However, Rabbi Sharon Kleinbaum of Congregation Beit Simchat Torah, the local gay and lesbian synagogue, said, “As individual consumers, we should express our values through how we spend our dollars.”


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: chickfila; homosexualagenda; leftismoncampus; nyc; nyuliberalfascism

1 posted on 08/19/2012 6:17:37 AM PDT by scottjewell
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To: scottjewell
Eat Mor Chikin
2 posted on 08/19/2012 6:31:03 AM PDT by JPG (Make it happen.)
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To: scottjewell

So much for tolerance


3 posted on 08/19/2012 6:36:28 AM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: scottjewell
That's the problem with the lib mentality, they believe free speech should only be aloud when you agree with their views.
4 posted on 08/19/2012 6:42:30 AM PDT by V_TWIN (obama=where there's smoke, there's mirrors)
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To: V_TWIN

aloud=allowed


5 posted on 08/19/2012 6:44:07 AM PDT by V_TWIN (obama=where there's smoke, there's mirrors)
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To: scottjewell
The “oh, so much more tolerant and knowledgeable than thou” liberal university NYU, would not be so callous as to ban those with diverse opinions, would they? (Rhetorical question, :) )
6 posted on 08/19/2012 6:46:47 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: scottjewell

I have only eaten at Chik-fil-a a few times............we just got one in town about a year- 2 years ago. My husband loves it. Saturday I was doing all my errands in town and it was moving in day for our local university and town was slammed. I decided to go the the CFA drive-thru. They were completely packed, but the service was EXCELLENT! They should seriously consider hiring out their reatsaurant trainers because the other fast food places have workers who seem barely alive( & barely clean!).

Anyway, long story short, I have seen many people here extol the spicy chicken sandwich & I got it. It was really DELICIOUS! Can any CFA devotees tell me their opinion of the strips & nuggets. They will be my next choice when I go again.


7 posted on 08/19/2012 6:48:21 AM PDT by leaning conservative (snow coming, school cancelled, yayyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

It’s clearer than ever now - although it was always fairly clear - that their tolerance and diversity extends only as far as their own ideology.


8 posted on 08/19/2012 6:48:38 AM PDT by scottjewell
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To: leaning conservative

restaurant..............sorry.


9 posted on 08/19/2012 6:50:33 AM PDT by leaning conservative (snow coming, school cancelled, yayyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: scottjewell

When did Dan Cathy “criticize gay marriage”? I thought he expressed his opinion on traditional marriage.

Mr. Shapiro shouldn’t attempt to write an article without the facts....oh wait....


10 posted on 08/19/2012 6:53:54 AM PDT by jch10 (America needs some R and R!)
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To: scottjewell
“We value everyone and strive to treat all people with a caring spirit.”

That's a rather transparent lie.

11 posted on 08/19/2012 6:56:51 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: scottjewell

They see nothing ironic in nations called People’s Republic of xxx.


12 posted on 08/19/2012 7:01:19 AM PDT by relictele
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To: scottjewell

I really don’t want to give ‘them’ ideas, but watch them turn the CLOSED SUNDAYS policy against Chik-fil-A along the lines of I eat 7 days a week so anything us lil darlins are offered should be open 7 days a week, if not 24 hrs a day because “We are special, after all we are College Students” .....etc...etc..


13 posted on 08/19/2012 7:01:31 AM PDT by xrmusn (6/98 "It is virtually impossible to clean the pond as long as the pigs are still crapping in it")
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To: rockrr

How so?

}:-)4


14 posted on 08/19/2012 7:02:02 AM PDT by Moose4 (...and walk away.)
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To: leaning conservative
Can any CFA devotees tell me their opinion of the strips & nuggets. They will be my next choice when I go again.

I love the nuggets for so many reasons... they have more of the delicious coating - they are easy to eat while driving :) you can get just 4, or 6, or 8 depending on how hungry you are.... The strips are delicious,too. Very, very tender - they are the tenderloin of the chicken breast. I prefer them on the salad - with house dressing. Back to the nuggets - the sauces are wonderful and make the nuggets - my favorite is the chick-fil-a sauce - but the polynesian is yummy.... you can't go wrong with anything on their menu. Try it all!!!

15 posted on 08/19/2012 7:06:14 AM PDT by Momto2 (I hate it when I wake up and Obama is President.......)
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To: scottjewell

Why not just let the students take a vote ... with their dollars? Each dollar spent at Chick-fil-a is a vote for; each dollar not spent there is a vote against.


16 posted on 08/19/2012 7:08:54 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: scottjewell

Raise your hand if you’re sick-up and fed with bitchy, self-obsessed homosexuals.


17 posted on 08/19/2012 7:10:06 AM PDT by RightOnline (I am Andrew Breitbart!)
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To: scottjewell

Why don’t they just get to the root of their complaint and ban conservatives? Or easier yet, ban white people? That way they will know their precious campus is completely bigot-free.


18 posted on 08/19/2012 7:11:57 AM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: leaning conservative
Can any CFA devotees tell me their opinion of the strips & nuggets. They will be my next choice when I go again.

You won't be disappointed in the nuggets.

They're make with actual pieces of chicken and are various sizes - as opposed to those identically shaped mystery thingies you get at McDonalds. The seasoning is excellent too.

Get the Polynesian sauce for dipping.

19 posted on 08/19/2012 7:14:31 AM PDT by AAABEST (Et lux in tenebris lucet: et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt)
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To: FatherofFive

They ask for tolerance for their perverted sexual inclinations while they will not tolerate a Chicken sandwich.


20 posted on 08/19/2012 7:18:56 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: AAABEST

*made


21 posted on 08/19/2012 7:20:05 AM PDT by AAABEST (Et lux in tenebris lucet: et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt)
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To: scottjewell

Two things advanced thinking, fair minded college students of today insist on:

Tolerance and Diversity.


22 posted on 08/19/2012 7:33:21 AM PDT by Iron Munro ("Jiggle the Handle for Barry!")
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To: scottjewell
Tina Montenegro, an N.Y.U. doctoral student in French literature...

Good luck on finding a job sweetie.

23 posted on 08/19/2012 7:33:21 AM PDT by upchuck ("Definition of 'racist:' someone that is winning an argument with a liberal." ~ Peter Brimelow)
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To: scottjewell

This woman is really named Dork-kowski?


24 posted on 08/19/2012 7:38:37 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: scottjewell

This is a tempest in a teapot. A bunch of queers massaging their delicate egos.

This is, for a while anyway, a capitalist country. If you object to Chik-fil-A, don’t eat there. If enough people feel as you do, the restaurant will close due to lack of business.


25 posted on 08/19/2012 7:39:30 AM PDT by upchuck ("Definition of 'racist:' someone that is winning an argument with a liberal." ~ Peter Brimelow)
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To: scottjewell
The ruckus began when Dan Cathy, president of the Atlanta-based restaurant chain Chick-fil-A, criticized gay marriage.

REALLY???

What exactly did Dan Cathy say about gays?

"We don't claim to be a Christian business," Cathy told the Biblical Recorder in a recent visit to North Carolina. He attended a business leadership conference many years ago where he heard Christian businessman Fred Roach say, "There is no such thing as a Christian business."

"That got my attention," Cathy said. Roach went on to say, "Christ never died for a corporation. He died for you and me."

"In that spirit ... [Christianity] is about a personal relationship. Companies are not lost or saved, but certainly individuals are," Cathy added.

"But as an organization we can operate on biblical principles. So that is what we claim to be. [We are] based on biblical principles, asking God and pleading with God to give us wisdom on decisions we make about people and the programs and partnerships we have. And He has blessed us."

Some have opposed the company's support of the traditional family. "Well, guilty as charged," said Cathy when asked about the company's position.

"We are very much supportive of the family -- the biblical definition of the family unit. We are a family-owned business, a family-led business, and we are married to our first wives. We give God thanks for that.

"We operate as a family business ... our restaurants are typically led by families; some are single. We want to do anything we possibly can to strengthen families. We are very much committed to that," Cathy emphasized.

"We intend to stay the course," he said. "We know that it might not be popular with everyone, but thank the Lord, we live in a country where we can share our values and operate on biblical principles."

So...What exactly did Dan Cathy say about gays???

Where did he mention the word gay, or queer, or homo, or lesbian, or any other word used to identify anybody in the gay community?

Dan Cathy DIDN'T say anything at all about gays.

What deragatory statement did he make?
He said: "We are very much supportive of the family -- the biblical definition of the family unit. We are a family-owned business, a family-led business, and we are married to our first wives. We give God thanks for that. "We operate as a family business ... our restaurants are typically led by families; some are single. We want to do anything we possibly can to strengthen families. We are very much committed to that,"

Not one defaming word.

26 posted on 08/19/2012 7:44:10 AM PDT by mountn man (Happiness is not a destination, its a way of life.)
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To: scottjewell
You know, liberals make a living based on their knowledge that conservatives are decent, moral people. Let's look at what liberals are demanding here. They want the business of someone who disagrees with them destroyed. Not because of the business, but because of his opinion.

Let's imagine that conservatives were like liberals for a moment. Let's imagine a major conservative (or someone like Rush) called for the firing of every liberal wherever or whenever they expressed their opinion. Say you like Obama; bam, you're fired. Express support for welfare or gay marriage; bam, gone. Promote feminist claptrap; you're outta here!

There are more of us than there are of them. Outside of Hollywood, universities, and the news media (who all do fire you for being conservative!), liberals would be terrified to speak up.

But we're not like liberals, conservatives want to be "fair." So we don't do that. But maybe we ought to consider fighting fire with fire...

27 posted on 08/19/2012 7:52:47 AM PDT by Charles H. (The_r0nin) (Hwaet! Lar bith maest hord, sothlice!)
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To: scottjewell
Tina Montenegro, an N.Y.U. doctoral student in French literature, said the owner of Chick-fil-A stating his opinion “is free expression.”

Someone who probably realizes that the only reason that today's rabble who cry "Hater" and "Intolerant" can do so because 40-50 years ago, these "intolerant" people they raid against thought that all expression, including obnoxious speech from that generation's rabble, showed be valued.

28 posted on 08/19/2012 7:55:29 AM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Rome didn't fall in a day, either.)
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To: Moose4

Oops - I misread. I thought it was the school that made that statement. I plead pre-coffee blur ;-)


29 posted on 08/19/2012 7:58:00 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: mountn man

Of course he didn’t. Thanks for posting all of that.

Unfortunately, it is because he does not PROMOTE gay marriage that he is labeled a hater. It’s as simple as that. No other way to interpret it; says a lot about the PC liberals and the gay agenda.


30 posted on 08/19/2012 8:26:57 AM PDT by scottjewell
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To: RightOnline

I think we all can raise both hands on that.


31 posted on 08/19/2012 8:28:05 AM PDT by scottjewell
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To: Charles H. (The_r0nin)

Maybe it is high time - because liberals have presupposed this sense of fairness, and used it to their advantage and to our detriment.


32 posted on 08/19/2012 8:29:48 AM PDT by scottjewell
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To: JPG
...by circulating a petition..to stop doing business with Chick-fil-A.

Ever notice how the left loves 'petitions'... petitions where names can't be verify. Mickey Mouse and Goofy have been known to sign a few times...

Why are liberals ashamed to show their faces? Why don't liberals do the kind of protest conservatives did at Chick-fil-A? BECAUSE liberals tried that - and with all the free publicity they weren't able to get more than a few dozen people to show up around the county. Their numbers of lies, the names on the petition are lies, liberals are liars. Period.

33 posted on 08/19/2012 8:43:48 AM PDT by GOPJ (Politics is war without bloodshed, and war is politics with bloodshed. - Mao Tse Tung. We're at war)
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To: leaning conservative

The peach shake is to die for. :)


34 posted on 08/19/2012 8:58:10 AM PDT by mlizzy (And if we accept that a mother can kill even her own child, how can we tell others not to kill? --MT)
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To: FatherofFive
The Chick-fil-A issue is a good reason for N.Y.U. to reconsider all of its arrangements with fast-food and soda companies,” Nestle stated.

IF these liberal elites were running the country - rather than just Universities, they'd have a 'political litmus test' for owning a business.

Does that seem familiar? Joseph Stalin for example? Party members would be OK - no matter how horrible their food - and others would be treated as outcasts...

It can't get much more totalitarian than that...it's Marxism .

35 posted on 08/19/2012 8:58:29 AM PDT by GOPJ (Politics is war without bloodshed, and war is politics with bloodshed. - Mao Tse Tung. We're at war)
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To: scottjewell

Note to the LGBT crowd:

It is not a good idea for 1% of the population to bring the unwanted scrutiny of the other 99% of the population upon yourselves.

Things rarely go well for people in those sort of situations.

The LGBT crowd, along with their enablers, will now be the focus of much unwanted scrutiny.


36 posted on 08/19/2012 9:01:51 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: mountn man
I think this is in part what is troubling to homosexuals:
“I think we are inviting God’s judgment on our nation when we shake our fist at Him and say ‘we know better than you as to what constitutes a marriage,’” and “I pray God’s mercy on our generation that has such a prideful, arrogant attitude to think that we have the audacity to define what marriage is about.” --Dan Cathy

37 posted on 08/19/2012 9:09:36 AM PDT by mlizzy (And if we accept that a mother can kill even her own child, how can we tell others not to kill? --MT)
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To: mountn man

Reference bump - Thanks! ;-)


38 posted on 08/19/2012 10:05:24 AM PDT by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here ;-)
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To: mlizzy
If you're (not you) an atheist, what do you care what a man prays to his God or fears judgement from that God.

If an atheist doesn't believe in God, what is there to fear from that perceived non existent God? Why should one care what one prays for? There's no one listening.

The problem here ISN'T about gays and their "rights". Its ALL about silencing Christians.

You see, this gay "rights" issue ISN'T about gays vs straights. There are MANY straights who are not Christians, who still oppose gay marriage. In fact, I would say that just looking at numbers of "practicing" Christians in this country vs overall population, and then looking at the split of those accepting or opposing gay marriage. I'd say that Christians who hold to "traditional" marriage, are a smaller group than those non-Christians who also hold to traditional marriage.

What does one say to the group of non-Christians who also support traditional marriage???

From all indications, those opposing same sex marriage outnumber those for by over a 2:1 margin.

IF half of those opposing same sex marriage are non Christians, then the argument is SIMPLY one half of society believes in it, the other half doesn't. Its one half of societal opinion vs the other. Both halves would have equal footing.

The problem is Christians view marriage is from God. They view a redefinement of marriage as an afront to God who created man and woman, and the relationship they are to have.

That is why this isn't about gay "rights". This IS an ATTACH specifically against Christians and their beliefs and the practicing of their faith.

39 posted on 08/19/2012 10:24:33 AM PDT by mountn man (Happiness is not a destination, its a way of life.)
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To: scottjewell
Unfortunately, it is because he does not PROMOTE gay marriage that he is labeled a hater. It’s as simple as that. No other way to interpret it; says a lot about the PC liberals and the gay agenda.

I think its much more than that.

See #39

40 posted on 08/19/2012 10:27:42 AM PDT by mountn man (Happiness is not a destination, its a way of life.)
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To: upchuck
I agree good advice, but the gays seem to have lost that
game in a big way.Amen
41 posted on 08/19/2012 10:28:26 AM PDT by gakrak (“If you put the Fed Gov in charge of the Sahara Desert, in 5 years there'd be a shortage of sand.”)
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To: mountn man

Yes, true.

They need to silence all dissent, and Christians are the worst dissenters of all because they cannot be persuaded to change their views. This is why Tony Perkins is correct when he says the FRC shooting was part of the “war on religion”.


42 posted on 08/19/2012 10:32:50 AM PDT by scottjewell
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To: mountn man

Bump to some EXCELLENT points!


43 posted on 08/19/2012 11:10:51 AM PDT by upchuck ("Definition of 'racist:' someone that is winning an argument with a liberal." ~ Peter Brimelow)
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To: Venturer
They ask for tolerance for their perverted sexual inclinations while they will not tolerate a Chicken sandwich.

They hav 'tolerence' only for the things they believe in.

No tolerance for Christianity
No tolerance for Boy Scouts
No tolerance for white guys
No tolerance for small business owners
No tolerance for Corporations

The libs are the least tolerant people on the planet. Well, maybe one step up from Islamists, who the libs tolerate.

44 posted on 08/19/2012 2:09:26 PM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: scottjewell

Here’s the latest sodomite hate-rant in front of a Chick-Fil-A, directed at a Roman Catholic priest praying the rosary:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5ZlUDbBUyQ&feature=player_embedded

If university student don’t want Chick-Fil-A, just don’t patronize them. Let your fellow students, faculty, and staff who want Chick-Fil-A eat there. That is (or at least used to be) the American way—NOT banning, boycotting, and bullying!!!!

Maybe you can LEARN something—why people WANT Chick-Fil-A—why your campus Christian fellowship groups will eat there after their services, Bible studies, etc. Are these people REALLY “hateful bigots”, or is there something else going on?

Can you trust “gay liberation” and “human rightser” groups to give you your information? What gives the Southern Poverty Law Center the authority to determine what is a “hate group”? Is the whole “hate group”, “hate speech” and “hate crime” business really valid, or an intellectual, moral and legal fraud?

Learn, learn, LEARN!!!!


45 posted on 08/20/2012 6:21:40 AM PDT by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: Momto2

Thanks, nuggets w/ the Polynesian sauce it will be!


46 posted on 08/20/2012 6:50:58 PM PDT by leaning conservative (snow coming, school cancelled, yayyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: AAABEST

You are the seocnd to recommend the nuggets & the Polynesian sauce, so thanks & that is what I will have!


47 posted on 08/20/2012 6:52:26 PM PDT by leaning conservative (snow coming, school cancelled, yayyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: leaning conservative

Let us know what you think!!
(Don’t forget the waffle fries :)


48 posted on 08/21/2012 9:58:11 AM PDT by Momto2 (I hate it when I wake up and Obama is President.......)
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To: Momto2

I had the fries & I have to say the ketchup packets (like little bottles) are SO cool...............I put ketchup on each fry!

I’m hungry & living in the country is not the best when you have a craving!


49 posted on 08/22/2012 6:23:43 PM PDT by leaning conservative (snow coming, school cancelled, yayyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!)
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