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FR Exclusive: Political Junkie's Guide To The Elections - Week Ending August 11, 2012
Rasmussen Reports ^ | August 12, 2012 | Political Junkie Too

Posted on 08/19/2012 11:22:03 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too

Previous Editions:

August 4, 2012
July 21, 2012
Premier - July 4, 2012

Here is the latest update of my Rasmussen state-by-state presidential model.

The model begins with the final results of the 2008 election, and updates those results with current Rasmussen state polls as they are published.

Final 2008 Electoral College results were Obama 365, McCain 173. My model begins with Obama 364, McCain 174, due to not handling the few split-win states.

Furthermore, 2010 apportionment favored Republicans, leaving us with a starting point of Obama 358, Romney 180.

This Edition's Updates:

Since the last report, Rasmussen published polls in Colorado, Florida, Indiana, Iowa, Ohio, Virginia, and a re-poll in Wisconsin. Obama's Electoral College count has gone down to 260 Electoral Votes to Romney's growth to 238, with 37 EV up for grabs. If the election were held today, the race would be leaning to Obama. Probabilistically, Romney has a 25.1% chance of winning today, an increase of about 13% from the prior report.

In Colorado, the race is still a tie. Romney's gained 2% from the mid-June poll, but so did Obama, leaving the race as a Toss-up.

In Florida, Romney made a slight gain, increasing his 1% lead to 2% from the June poll. Romney's support fell by 1% from June, but Obama's support fell by 2%, inching Florida into the Leans Romney category, moving Florida's 29 Electoral Votes into Romney's column.

In Indiana, the bottom fell out for the Obama campaign. Romney gained 3% from a late-May poll, while Obama lost 7%, making Indiana safe for Romney.

In Iowa, Romney lost 1% from a mid-June poll, while Obama lost 2%, netting a 2% lead for Romney. Iowa moves from Toss-up to Leans Romney and another 6 Electoral Vote pickup.

In Ohio, Romney held his support from a mid-July poll, while Obama lost 2%. Ohio moves from Leans Obama to Toss-up, and Obama loses 18 Electoral Votes.

In Virginia, Obama had some success. Romney held his position from a mid-July poll, while Obama gained 1%, netting a 2% lead for Obama. Virginia moves from Toss-up to Leans Obama and gives him 13 Electoral Votes, making back some of the 18 he lost in Ohio.

In Wisconsin, a big shift happened - again. Rasmussen re-polled his late-July poll because of the primary, and Romney regained his loss plus another 1%. Obama lost 2% from the July poll, but is still in a better place than his 44% from mid-June. While not totally re-flipping, Wisconsin moves to a Toss-up, taking another 10 Electoral Votes away from Obama.

Below is the latest round of state polls. The first number is the change in GOP result from the last poll (or last election if no prior poll), and the second number is the separation from the Democrat candidate's result.

Watch List:

Summary of Electoral College breakdown

Obama - 260 Romney - 238
Safe Strong Leaning Toss-Up Leaning Strong Safe
EV State EV State EV State EV State EV State EV State EV State
55 California 16 Michigan 13 Virginia 9 Colorado 29 Florida 16 Georgia 9 Alabama
7 Connecticut 4 New Hampshire 18 Ohio 6 Iowa 10 Missouri 3 Alaska
3 District of Columbia 6 Nevada 10 Wisconsin 15 North Carolina 11 Arizona
3 Delaware 20 Pennsylvania 6 Arkansas
4 Hawaii 4 Idaho
20 Illinois 11 Indiana
4 Maine 6 Kansas
10 Maryland 8 Kentucky
11 Massachusetts 8 Louisiana
10 Minnesota 6 Mississippi
14 New Jersey 3 Montana
5 New Mexico 5 Nebraska
29 New York 3 North Dakota
7 Oregon 7 Oklahoma
4 Rhode Island 9 South Carolina
3 Vermont 3 South Dakota
12 Washington 11 Tennessee
38 Texas
6 Utah
5 West Virginia
3 Wyoming
201 46 13 37 35 41 162

2008 Final Results

Link to 2008 Final Election Map

Current State Leanings

Link to Current Electoral College Map

Using the most recent Rasmussen polls, the results of 32,000 simulated elections are listed in the table below. The definitions of the columns are:

Week GOP
Electoral
College
P10
GOP
Electoral
College
EV
GOP
Electoral
College
P90
Probability
of 270
2008 Election 180 180 180 0.00%
12-May-12 193 220.73 248 0.16%
19-May-12 197 225.09 248 0.23%
26-May-12 206 232.72 256 1.21%
02-Jun-12 216 242.46 266 4.43%
09-Jun-12 221 247.73 275 14.02%
16-Jun-12 230 257.37 282 28.95%
23-Jun-12 231 257.92 282 30.10%
30-Jun-12 225 254.58 282 24.61%
07-Jul-12 225 254.58 282 24.61%
14-Jul-12 225 254.58 282 24.61%
21-Jul-12 219 248.33 276 16.46%
28-Jul-12 215 244.1 272 11.78%
04-Aug-12 216 245.64 273 12.75%
11-Aug-12 215 245.24 273 12.05%
18-Aug-12 225 255.61 282 25.11%

Link to Probability Chart

And in the Senate...

The race for Senate control is still see-sawing. The Republicans, yet again, gain a state here and lose a state there.

This is the latest run of my Rasmussen state-by-state Senate model.

The model begins with the final results of the last Class 1 election, and I will update those results with current Rasmussen state polls as they are published.

Final 2010 Senate results were Republicans taking 47 seats, and Democrats caucusing 53 seats. My model begins with here.

As of now, the Senate still looks to be a 51-49 GOP take-over, with a probability of 84.3%.

Since the last report, Rasmussen published polls in Florida, Ohio, Virginia, and Wisconsin.

In Florida, with the primary behind them, Republican Mack lost 6% from a mid-July poll, while incumbent Democrat Nelson gained 10%, making this race a 47%-40% hold for Democrats. Previously, the July poll had Republicans gaining this seat.

In Ohio, the state appears to be moving towards Republicans. Mandel gained 2% from the July poll, while incumbent Brown lost 2%, making this race a 44% toss-up.

In Virginia, Republican Allen picked up another 1% from the July poll, while Democrat Kaine remains unchanged over three polls. The race is now tied at 46%. Let's hope that the Senate race is a foreshadowing of the President's race.

In Wisconsin, the new poll proves that the last one was an outlier. Republican Thompson went from 52% to 41% and back to 54%, while Democrat Baldwin went from 36% to 48% and down to 43%. Wisconsin is now a safe gain for Republicans.

Below is the latest round of state polls. The first number is the change in GOP result from the last poll (or seat election if no prior poll), and the second number is the separation from the Democrat candidate's result.

Watch List:

Using the most recent Rasmussen polls, the results of 32,000 simulated elections are listed in the table below. The definitions of the columns are:

Week GOP
Senate
Seats
P10
GOP
Senate
Seats
EV
GOP
Senate
Seats
P90
Probability
of 51
GOP
Gain
2010 Election 47 47 47 0.00% 0
12-May-12 50 51.24 52 77.01% 4
19-May-12 50 51.24 52 77.01% 4
26-May-12 49 50.75 52 58.53% 3
02-Jun-12 49 50.63 52 54.34% 3
09-Jun-12 49 50.37 52 44.50% 3
16-Jun-12 49 50.37 52 44.50% 3
23-Jun-12 49 50.05 52 34.52% 3
30-Jun-12 49 50.05 52 34.52% 3
07-Jul-12 49 50.05 52 34.52% 3
14-Jul-12 51 52.04 54 91.10% 5
21-Jul-12 51 52.19 54 92.42% 5
28-Jul-12 51 52.17 54 92.18% 5
04-Aug-12 50 51.33 53 75.39% 4
11-Aug-12 50 51.43 53 78.01% 4
18-Aug-12 50 51.76 53 84.33% 4

Link to Senate Probability Chart

-PJ


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KEYWORDS: 2012polls; vanity

1 posted on 08/19/2012 11:22:06 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too
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To: 1010RD; AEMILIUS PAULUS; Alas Babylon!; AuH2ORepublican; bamagirl1944; BlessedBeGod; ...
Ping to the latest report.

-PJ

2 posted on 08/19/2012 11:22:43 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( It doesn't come naturally when you're not natural born.)
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To: Political Junkie Too; All

Given the impact of the third party Nadar vote for the Bush election, I would like to see some analysis of the potential impact of the Libertarian Party, Green Party, and Goode and Rohmer third party vote probabilities.


3 posted on 08/19/2012 11:39:25 AM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: gleeaikin
I think the impact shows up in the totals. For example, in Ohio the vote is tied at 45%. Other candidates get 6%, and 4% are undecided. The candidates that you list would show up in that 6%.

Are you asking whether that 6% is coming from Romney's or Obama's total, or whether they would go to neither and the voter will just stay home, or whether they would still vote for the 3rd party candidate on election day?

Most people think that the undecided vote tends to break for the challenger, because if they supported the incumbent they'd already have made up their mind. Along those lines, one could surmise that the 3rd party vote is also a protest against the incumbent moreso than a refusal to support the challenger.

I use Rasmussen's public polling data, so I'm not diving (yet) into the details where 3rd party insights may lie. That said, I'm 100% certain that a 3rd party candidate will not win the Presidency.

-PJ

4 posted on 08/19/2012 11:52:43 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( It doesn't come naturally when you're not natural born.)
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To: Political Junkie Too

excellent.

got my own guide to Central CT.
targetted libs in the state House

Southington (open)
Cheshire (vickie)
Wethersfield (Morin)
Manchester (open)
W Hartford (new guy)
Bristol (wright)

I think we can win 3 or 4 of these seats that are currently DEM.


5 posted on 08/19/2012 12:04:49 PM PDT by campaignPete R-CT (and we are still campaigning for local conservatives in central CT.)
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To: Political Junkie Too

Read “Battle Hymn, the Sinister New World Order” yet? Why not?


6 posted on 08/19/2012 12:08:04 PM PDT by Paperdoll
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To: Political Junkie Too; no-to-illegals; All

I too am certain that a third party candidate will not win. The question is how much will one candidate or the other be hurt by them. The Libertarians and Goode supporters will probably draw from the Republican side. The Greens will tend to be from the Democrats. Not sure what the trend would be for Rohmer. There is a party, I think called Peace and Freedom in California which would probably draw from the Democrats. I’m not sure what else is out there. Given the growth of green parties in Europe, I wonder about the future of the Green Party in the US.


7 posted on 08/19/2012 12:23:10 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: Political Junkie Too

Anybody else getting a little worried about Romney slipping 5-6 points in last couple of weeks in the Rasmussen poll?


8 posted on 08/19/2012 12:48:33 PM PDT by InterceptPoint (.)
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To: campaignPete R-CT; Political Junkie Too; InterceptPoint; no-to-illegals; All

Hear is another interesting link examining polls from a number of different angles, with lots of charts and data. Probably a good one to bookmark for on going follow-up. PJT—You might want to post this one too. My computer skills are weak.

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/


9 posted on 08/19/2012 1:08:11 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: gleeaikin
I'm starting to look at the toplines. I'll let you all know if I see any trends.

I want to be careful about what I post, because the toplines are by subscription and I don't want to violate any copywrite or ownership laws. So far, I've only been using the content on the free side of Rasmussen's site.

I'm going to try to create some composite measures that don't expose Rasmussen's pay-data, if possible.

-PJ

10 posted on 08/19/2012 1:27:43 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( It doesn't come naturally when you're not natural born.)
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To: gleeaikin
I know about Nate Silver. He's the NYT guru. I don't want to post his stuff because it's the NYT and easily accessible, and the NYT is on the excerpt list.

He's doing the same thing I'm doing, but he has vastly more resources at his disposal. I'm just doing this as a hobby.

Besides, I'm limiting myself to Rasmussen's polling data. The others are using multiple polls, plus past history, and their own thoughts on what the trends are despite what spot polls might be saying.

I'm staying way from saucing up the conclusions, and am staying strictly with what the data is saying on a weekly basis.

-PJ

11 posted on 08/19/2012 1:32:59 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( It doesn't come naturally when you're not natural born.)
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To: InterceptPoint
Let's see what the post-Ryan polls look like. Also the convention bounce.

I heard that Romney was somewhat limited in responding to Obama's lies because Romney spent most of his primary funds and has to wait for the general election to begin before he can start spending again. Since Obama was unopposed, he still has his primary funds to spend attacking Romney.

Hopefully, Obama's lies were so over-the-top that Romney doesn't need to respond; the people will be naturally turned off by Obama's extreme antics.

The Ohio poll may be a bellwether.

-PJ

12 posted on 08/19/2012 1:38:04 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( It doesn't come naturally when you're not natural born.)
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To: InterceptPoint
My read is Romney's slip is temporary and likely due to the massive nobama ad campaign this last month, which even though sounds a bit early for so much ads, the nobama camp is in a life or death struggle to get their 2008 voters re-energized (which does not seems to be working very well).

GOP will get a bump following the Convention as more Indies start listening, nobama will start to run low on funds and the final 3 or 4 weeks may see nobama unable to put together many ads. By then it'll almost be a done deal anyway regardless of how various polls want to push.

One thing I have noted, dems and nobama in particular are so emotionally tied to their far left ideology they give away their fear with body language. The worse their internal polls show, the more desperate they will come across. Desperation never gins up support.

13 posted on 08/19/2012 1:56:23 PM PDT by X-spurt (It is truly time for ON YOUR FEET or on your knees)
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To: Political Junkie Too

Excellent and good stuff. The movement for the most part is in the right direction. I think VA will go for Romney in the end.


14 posted on 08/19/2012 3:44:03 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Political Junkie Too
Below is a list of competitive or potentially competitive Senate races. With input from several FR political experts, I have ranked the list from most to least likely GOP win. The rankings will change as the election season progresses.

Note the differentiation between the seats that represent GOP Holds and those that represent opportunities for Gains. Democrats currently control 53 seats in the Senate (including two independents who caucus with the Democrats), Republicans 47. If Republicans hold all the seats they have currently, they will need to gain four more seats to have a majority.

We will likely lose ME, so we'll need five gains for a majority. As of 8/19/12, the best opportunities for those gains are in the states of NE, MO, WI, ND, and MT.

Links to GOP primary winners' websites are included so you can learn more about the candidates and donate, if you feel so inclined.

If you're interested in all polling on Senate races, check out Real Clear Politics Senate Polls.

It's widely thought that the GOP will keep the House, so besides the battle for the White House, the next focus has to be the Senate.

 

8/19/12 Race for the U.S. Senate Ranked Roughly From Most to Least Likely GOP Win

State

Republican Candidate Democrat/IND Candidate Hold OR Gain
NE* Debra Fischer Bob Kerrey GAIN
AZ* Primary 8/28/12 (Jeff Flake#)   HOLD
IN* Richard Mourdock Joe Donnelly HOLD
MO Todd Akin Claire McCaskill+ GAIN
WI* Tommy Thompson Tammy Baldwin GAIN
NV Dean Heller+ Shelley Berkley HOLD
ND* Rick Berg Heidi Heitcamp GAIN
MT Denny Rehberg Jon Tester* GAIN
MA Scott Brown+ Elizabeth Warren HOLD
VA* George Allen Tim Kaine GAIN
OH Josh Mandel Sherrod Brown+ GAIN
FL Connie Mack Bill Nelson+ GAIN
MI Pete Hoekstra Debbie Stabenow+ GAIN
NM* Heather Wilson Martin Heinrich GAIN
NJ Joe Kyrillos Bob Menendez+ GAIN
PA Tom Smith Bob Casey+ GAIN
HI* Linda Lingle Mazie Hirono GAIN
WV John Raese Joe Manchin+ GAIN
CT* Linda McMahon Chris Murphy GAIN
ME* Charles Summers Angus King (Ind.) HOLD
WA Michael Baumgartner Maria Cantwell+ GAIN
*Open Seat      +Incumbent      #GOP Frontrunner  

 

15 posted on 08/19/2012 3:59:00 PM PDT by randita (Paul Ryan is "Mr. Smith goes to Washington.")
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To: Political Junkie Too

BTTT


16 posted on 08/19/2012 5:10:16 PM PDT by SharpRightTurn ( White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: gleeaikin; Political Junkie Too; SunkenCiv; randita; fieldmarshaldj; Impy; InterceptPoint; ...
Given the impact of the third party Nadar vote for the Bush election, I would like to see some analysis of the potential impact of the Libertarian Party, Green Party, and Goode and Rohmer third party vote probabilities.

I'll be shocked if the third parties combined will get anything more than 2% of the total national popular vote. That would be a generous estimate. And Nader's impact on the Bush election in 2000 was merely the result of a very unusually tight race in Florida: 500+ votes separating Bush and Gore out of more than 5 million total votes cast which happened to be decisive for Bush's margin in the electoral college. (It was not because of any unusual strength for Nader's Green Party candidacy.) The probability of a similar occurrence this year is very small.

That's why when you see a Ras poll indicating that 6% in a particular state (like Ohio this week) prefer a third party candidate, you can bet your farm that the majority of those third party people will either stay home or vote for one of the major candidates, with Romney getting more of their votes than Obama. Remember that some people who receive a robo-call from a pollster will prefer, because they are uncomfortable talking to an electronic voice about Obama, to wimp out and say they're undecided or are supporting another candidate.

Obama can't mathematically win re-election with only 45% of the popular vote. He won't be getting very much more from the segment of voters who are now telling a pollster that they are undecided or voting third party, certainly not enough to push him past Romney.

17 posted on 08/19/2012 5:13:35 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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18 posted on 08/19/2012 5:45:05 PM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93destr)
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To: justiceseeker93
And don't forget that if Gore had won his home state or Clinton's home state, Florida would not have mattered - making a 3rd party impact moot.

-PJ

19 posted on 08/19/2012 6:06:30 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( It doesn't come naturally when you're not natural born.)
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Keep in mind that the organization that does a meta analysis of only Likely Voters...is showing Romney with 294 EVs right now, where Lean states are counted.


20 posted on 08/19/2012 6:52:44 PM PDT by rbmillerjr (Conservative Economic and National Security Commentary: econus.blogspot.com)
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To: justiceseeker93; gleeaikin; AuH2ORepublican; randita

I don’t know how Nader got over 2% 12 years ago but Obama/McLame got over 98% of the vote against an Indy Nader and 2 former members of Congress on the Green and Libertarian tickets.

So I don’t see Goode and Johnson making much difference. Johnson it seems takes pretty evenly from both and probably won’t be a factor outside his own state.

The only thing is Goode could hurt in his critical home state with just 1 or 2 points. I hope not. Bob Barr did very poorly in his home state of Georgia in 2008, less than 1%.

No Nader this time. I don’t know who the Greens have but the Roseanne Barr/Cindy Sheenhan ticket is on the Peace and Freedom ballot in Cali! So is a member of this site on the American Independent ballot.


21 posted on 08/20/2012 2:13:49 AM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: randita

After yesterday’s unbelievable gaffe by Todd Aikin, you can give MO to Claire McKaskill. The DNC is already using Aikin’s comments to raise money nationally.


22 posted on 08/20/2012 4:50:03 AM PDT by pistolpackinpapa (Why is it that you never see any Obama bumper stickers on cars going to work in the mornings?)
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To: pistolpackinpapa; Impy; InterceptPoint; ml/nj; ExTexasRedhead; Yaelle; Political Junkie Too; ...
After yesterday’s unbelievable gaffe by Todd Aikin, you can give MO to Claire McKaskill.

I heard what Todd Akin said. It was a gaffe, but hardly "unbelievable." Of course the desperate 'Rats are out there jumping down his throat because they know they're behind and have to use every opportunity.

But was it such a terrible gaffe, compared to some of Obama's (e.g., "57 states" or "you didn't build that") or Biden's (e.g., asking a disabled person to stand up in a crowd, claiming that FDR went on TV after the 1929 stock market crash, "'jobs' is a 3-letter word" and many, many more) or Elizabeth Warren's alleged American Indian ancestry?

Fact is that the pro-abortion crowd, which would be the part of the electorate offended by Akin's gaffe, would be already voting for McKaskill anyway. And I wouldn't think that abortion is such a hot button issue this year anyway.

23 posted on 08/20/2012 5:32:57 AM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93
Fact is that the pro-abortion crowd, which would be the part of the electorate offended by Akin's gaffe, would be already voting for McKaskill anyway.

Maybe so. But what about beyond MO. Remember how Mark Foley impacted the entire national scene. Akin could as well. Foley may have been re-elected had he run again and won-who knows. But he would be sitting there in Congress with a bull's eye on his head. Same will happen with Akin if he wins. We don't need that.

24 posted on 08/20/2012 6:05:03 AM PDT by randita (Paul Ryan is "Mr. Smith goes to Washington.")
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To: justiceseeker93

the desperate ‘Rats are out there jumping down his throat because they know they’re behind and have to use every opportunity.
__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Well, this ignoramus gave them an opportunity.....a very big opportunity. The people of MO should have listened to Sarah Palin and chosen Sarah Steele as the GOP candidate.


25 posted on 08/20/2012 6:19:51 AM PDT by pistolpackinpapa (Why is it that you never see any Obama bumper stickers on cars going to work in the mornings?)
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To: randita
Maybe so. But what about beyond MO. Remember how Mark Foley impacted the entire national scene. Akin could as well. Foley may have been re-elected had he run again and won-who knows. But he would be sitting there in Congress with a bull's eye on his head. Same will happen with Akin if he wins. We don't need that.

Closest thing in recent years I can compare this to is George Allen's "macaca" remark. But that was in VA where the WaPo has its clout, and I think it was closer to the election in timing. It hurt Allen in a close race, but that was a 'Rat year nationally. Missouri has no equivalent to the WaPo. And most importantly, abortion is not on the radar screen nationally this year.

No, the drive-bys will have a field day with Akin for a couple of days, but the GOP National Convention will knock it out of the headlines next week.

26 posted on 08/20/2012 7:55:13 AM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: Impy; All

The Greens have Dr. Jill Stein, a Harvard graduate physician. She is a neat conservatively dressed gray haired woman. The Roseanne Barr competition was pretty much a joke, although it did bring some publicity to the race. RB will probably do better in California than she did nationally with the Greens, although she did well with black voters.


27 posted on 08/20/2012 1:03:00 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: Impy; All

The Greens have Dr. Jill Stein, a Harvard graduate physician. She is a neat conservatively dressed gray haired woman. The Roseanne Barr competition was pretty much a joke, although it did bring some publicity to the race. RB will probably do better in California than she did nationally with the Greens, although she did well with black voters.


28 posted on 08/20/2012 1:03:00 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: justiceseeker93; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; ...

Thanks justiceseeker93.


29 posted on 08/20/2012 5:38:44 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: gleeaikin; GOPsterinMA; justiceseeker93

Stein, yes, forgot her name. She’s the one who ran for MA Governor on the Rainbow Green ticket or something like that. LOL

With no Nader she’s in the running for 3rd place but I’d bet on Johnson getting that ‘honor’ over her and Goode.


30 posted on 08/20/2012 10:07:47 PM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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I don’t know if it’s true, but I encountered one report that said she did a better job than Romney when they debated in MA. I do hope they will let the small party candidates take part in at least some of the debates. One thing that separates the Green Party from the big parties, and I think also the others is that they take no corporate or big labor donations. How refreshing.


31 posted on 08/20/2012 11:10:40 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: gleeaikin; GOPsterinMA; fieldmarshaldj; justiceseeker93; AuH2ORepublican; Perdogg

A third party candidate they will let in the POTUS debates if they hit like 15% in the polls. Not gonna happen for any of them, not by a mile. They will have their own debate that Romney and Obama will not attend. So Stein ain’t gonna be in the ring with Romney again. I recall hearing he did do bad in those 2002 debates, I thought he would lose but he still beat the rat O’Brien.

No corporate or labor money is nice, but to be fair I doubt any of the third parties have been offered any. I doubt the Greens would refuse labor money. The Libertarians and Constitution parties maybe would reject corporate if offered but they will not get offered any. No one wants to a buy a party that can’t win, there would be no point.


32 posted on 08/20/2012 11:31:51 PM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: Impy; gleeaikin; justiceseeker93; fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; Perdogg

Dr. Jill Stein, from Lexington. Typical yenta that has too much time and money...

“I thought he would lose but he still beat the rat O’Brien.”

Shannon O’Brien is a repulsive douche...very much like Coakley and Warren (notice a trend?).

Glove’s biggest attribute is that he runs against such bile that he looks good by comparison.


33 posted on 08/21/2012 7:02:16 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (The Glove don't fit.)
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