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Missouri GOP Senate Candidate should withdraw from Race Now (Vanity)
August 19, 2012 | pistolpackinpapa

Posted on 08/19/2012 4:26:06 PM PDT by pistolpackinpapa

Congressman Todd Aikin, the GOP candidate for the U.S. Senate from Missouri should withdraw from the Missouri Senate Race immediately over his stupid statement he made today re: "legitimate rape". To not do so, will assure six more years for Claire McKaskill in the U.S. Senate. What he said, in essence, when asked about abortion, was that a "legitimate rape" rarely causes pregnancy. Now, that comment is going viral over the internet.

I witnessed, first-hand, in 1990 how a "rape gaffe" by GOP candidate for Governor of Texas, Clayton Williams, who had a wide lead in the polls at the time, caused him to lose the Governor's Office to Ann Richards; in GOP-Red Texas.

Many of us Conservatives understand what he was saying and are in agreement. But, it was a stupid thing to say. For the sake of this Election and control of the U.S. Senate, Aikin should withdraw immediately or "Turn out the lights; the party's over.

You can read the article here:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2012/08/19/todd-akin-gop-senate-candidate-legitimate-rape-rarely-causes-pregnancy/


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Probably the only person in America who could get a pass on this, right now, would be Joe Biden.
1 posted on 08/19/2012 4:26:13 PM PDT by pistolpackinpapa
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To: pistolpackinpapa

Aiken is not too bright. He had this thing sewn up.


2 posted on 08/19/2012 4:27:33 PM PDT by Signalman
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To: pistolpackinpapa

Are you insane? This election is not about abortion, women’s rights or anything else the liberals want it to be. Its about the economy, jobs, national security/identity. His opponent is one who has destroyed the economy. So NO!


3 posted on 08/19/2012 4:30:00 PM PDT by Mechanicos (When did we amend the Constitution for a 2nd Federal Prohibition?)
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To: Mechanicos

It was not, but he has changed the topic by his answer.


4 posted on 08/19/2012 4:32:33 PM PDT by paudio (Two stubborn facts remain: (1) Romney is better than 0bama, and (2) Romney is the Republican Nominee)
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To: pistolpackinpapa

A quick “I mispoke” will take care of it.

Just don’t let it be ‘Maccaca’d’ by the media.


5 posted on 08/19/2012 4:32:36 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: Mechanicos

2012 is indeed the year FR became a parody of itself.


6 posted on 08/19/2012 4:33:32 PM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: pistolpackinpapa

What is the law on this in MO???

The last time this happened was in NJ, some years ago, when a Dem candidate got irreparably tarnished, and the Dem Party got the courts to set aside a state law so that they could substitue a ‘ringer’ (Lautenberg) to save the election...

But I doubt that Pubbies have that option/luxury....


7 posted on 08/19/2012 4:34:24 PM PDT by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: pistolpackinpapa

did he mean rape-rape?


8 posted on 08/19/2012 4:36:27 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: pistolpackinpapa

You’re an idiot. Jeez, sometimes I want to withdraw from life because of people like you. Put your big boy pants on and grow up.


9 posted on 08/19/2012 4:36:36 PM PDT by beandog (All Aboard the Choo Choo Train to Crazy Town)
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To: pistolpackinpapa

Couldn’t agree more. not only was it an horrific comment, he now has handed the seat to the Dems. he is done.

Why on EARTH would the Mo Tea Party nominate someone this flat out stupid?? There are some wonderful, intelligent Tea Partiers in this nation and they picked him?

Even I’d vote for his opponent after this and I’ve never voted Dem in my life. This isn’t just bad, this is horrible. I prosecuted more rape cases than I can count. This fool has no place representing anyone for ANYTHING.


10 posted on 08/19/2012 4:37:32 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: pistolpackinpapa
Get a grip!!

I suppose you are voting for Obama butt girl (the incumbent democRAT?)

11 posted on 08/19/2012 4:38:45 PM PDT by texican01
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To: pistolpackinpapa

I agree. If this is still exploding in the press a week from now and tarring the rest of the Republican Senate candidates and the national ticket, this guy has to go. The problem is he is the “legitimate” winner of the Republican primary and no one can force him to step down.Unless they quietly offer him a job in prospective Romney administration to get him out of there...


12 posted on 08/19/2012 4:38:52 PM PDT by chuckee
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To: pistolpackinpapa

He should, but he won’t. His self interest will get the best of him. If he bows out, he admits his own stupidity and will never have a political career again. If he stays in the race, he has more of a chance to win than no chance.
Might as well support him, get beyond the gaffe an onto the issues. Or perhaps, someone can give him several millions and a villa in St. Bart’s and he might get out.


13 posted on 08/19/2012 4:39:49 PM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est; zero sera dans l'enfer bientot.)
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To: pistolpackinpapa

It might not help. Does the name Jack Ryan ring a bell?


14 posted on 08/19/2012 4:41:04 PM PDT by Hugin ("Most times a man'll tell you his bad intentions, if you listen and let yourself hear."---Open Range)
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To: pistolpackinpapa

He’s dead, Jim. I guess we just lost Arkansas!!! scratch one for the senate.


15 posted on 08/19/2012 4:41:14 PM PDT by Calusa (The pump don't work cause the vandals took the handles. Quoth Bob Dylan.)
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To: Uncle Ike

Er, did you forget the pubbies did that exact same thing with Jack Ryan in Illinois? They pulled him from the ticket which led directly to Obama starting his career in the Senate. That may not have springboarded him directly to the presidency, since electing Obama required such a level of stupidity that whoever voted for him would’ve probably done the same even if he ascended to the presidency directly from his previous lofty position of community organizer.


16 posted on 08/19/2012 4:41:22 PM PDT by JediJones (Too Hot for GOP TV: Newt Gingrich, Sarah Palin, Allen West and Donald Trump)
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To: Mechanicos

Please Mechanicos; you are giving the American voter too much credit. It’s little things like this that the uninformed electorate zero in on and base their vote on. Besides, it has fired up women who might not have even voted and men who were raped as little boys who might not have voted for McKaskill. I’m telling you this: I’ve been heavily involved in politics since 1980 and this WILL cost him the Election. Read what I said in my Post about the 1990 Governor’s Race in Texas. He must withdraw or it’s over. I’ll even bet you money on it.


17 posted on 08/19/2012 4:42:14 PM PDT by pistolpackinpapa (Why is it that you never see any Obama bumper stickers on cars going to work in the mornings?)
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To: mrsmith
A quick "I misspoke" will take care of it.

The problem being Aikin is spending a lot of his time saying "What I really meant was...". This cuts into the time where he can get his message on the economy and jobs and defense out there. To date his quotes have provided McCaskill with a couple of commercials. This quote should be good for another one. God knows how many more he'll give her.

18 posted on 08/19/2012 4:43:53 PM PDT by Delhi Rebels (There was a row in Silver Street - the regiments was out.)
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To: JediJones

” Er, did you forget the pubbies did that exact same thing with Jack Ryan in Illinois? “

My bad - I did forget that one...

(Actually, I think I ‘blocked it out’, as I do most things involving the “Zero”..)


19 posted on 08/19/2012 4:43:58 PM PDT by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: pistolpackinpapa

I’d agree it would be better if Aiken went away. Not sure at this point it will matter. McCaskill probably just got herself 6 more years and our goal of taking back the US Senate just became all the more difficult.


20 posted on 08/19/2012 4:44:24 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: RIghtwardHo

Give Akin 48 hrs to see if he can turn this around. If not, he must withdraw and have the party nominate Steelman. A female candidate is exactly the right antidote.

So a Torricelli move might be necessary.

I am sure Akin is an honorable man and I admire his ACU rating. But his judgment is horrible. This wound was entirely self-inflicted and demonstrates an inability to keep his damned mouth shut. This gaffe suggests that more may be forthcoming.

And keep Akin away from Tampa. Not a single photo w R-R or any other candidates. Yank his plane ticket.

WE DESERVE better than this. We MUST have this seat. Period, end of subject.


21 posted on 08/19/2012 4:44:43 PM PDT by mwl8787
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To: pistolpackinpapa
(Rep) Todd Akin's out with a doozy of a response to his interview
22 posted on 08/19/2012 4:45:19 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Mechanicos

I’m a conservative and every election is always about abortion, among other issues. I don’t switch off my beliefs just because some jackass political consultant decides that issue isn’t “trending” today.

I am not going to throw this guy under the bus because of one misspoken word. It’s liberals who shallowly judge people by the words they use and refuse to take into account their meaning, context, or intent. That’s what political correctness is all about.


23 posted on 08/19/2012 4:46:01 PM PDT by JediJones (Too Hot for GOP TV: Newt Gingrich, Sarah Palin, Allen West and Donald Trump)
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To: JediJones

There’s a certain segment of FReepers who will do anything to get rid of those filthy tea partiers.

Never forget, Moderates are lying, manipulative, bottom feeding scum.


24 posted on 08/19/2012 4:46:06 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: beandog

“You’re an idiot. Jeez, sometimes I want to withdraw from life because of people like you. Put your big boy pants on and grow up.”

What is going on is that this guy is the one that beat the candidate that was endorsed by Palin.

This group of dramatic-chipmunks sees a shallow opportunity to try to knock off this guy and maybe get him replaced by the candidate they thought should have been the primary winner. So they are demanding that he leaves the race.

Really cheap stunt.


25 posted on 08/19/2012 4:46:29 PM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: mrsmith

A quick “I mispoke” will take care of it.
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Ya think? Tell some woman, in a crowd at a party, that she’s fat, ugly and her breath stinks. Then say: “Oh I misspoke” and see how well that will “take care of it”. Reminds me of the old song that has the line in it that says: “......with a hasty word you can’t recall.”


26 posted on 08/19/2012 4:46:48 PM PDT by pistolpackinpapa (Why is it that you never see any Obama bumper stickers on cars going to work in the mornings?)
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To: pistolpackinpapa

To remind folks, Akin did NOT say what Claytie Williams did in Texas. Williams said (albeit jokingly in comparing rape to inclement TX weather), “If it’s inevitable, just relax and enjoy it.”


27 posted on 08/19/2012 4:47:21 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (If you like lying Socialist dirtbags, you'll love Slick Willard)
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To: pistolpackinpapa

If you want to fire this guy over a 38 second sound bite, you’re going to fire anyone over anything.

Not standing up for him would signal to the Demonrats that we are pansies who will fold like a cheap suit over any screaming accusation.

Dana Loesch, a woman, said it best when she said Akin failed a sound bite, whereas McCaskill failed us on the economy over six years. McCaskill’s actions are far, far worse.

We need to get a spine, not a noodly back.


28 posted on 08/19/2012 4:48:05 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: mrsmith
A quick “I mispoke” will take care of it.

On what planet? He's a REPUB, remember?

Just don’t let it be ‘Maccaca’d’ by the media.

Too late for that, the second the STUPID words were out of his STUPID mouth.

29 posted on 08/19/2012 4:48:15 PM PDT by workerbee (June 28, 2012 -- 9/11 From Within)
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To: Uncle Ike

I’m sure that if he resigned and withdrew from the race, the Republican Party of Missouri would have the right to substitute another candidate.


30 posted on 08/19/2012 4:48:55 PM PDT by pistolpackinpapa (Why is it that you never see any Obama bumper stickers on cars going to work in the mornings?)
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To: Delhi Rebels
The problem being Aikin is spending a lot of his time saying "What I really meant was...". This cuts into the time where he can get his message on the economy and jobs and defense out there.

Then please ask Mitt Romney to step down because of all the time he's spending explaining why he's not releasing his taxes. Well over half of all the mentions of Romney I hear about on the MSM for the last month seem to be about his tax returns.

Akin was talking about a highly relevant issue to voters, abortion. By explaining his comments, he can easily let people know what his views are on abortion, which should play well in his state. Romney's tax return issue is a total vacuum sucking oxygen out of his campaign and offering absolutely no benefit in return.

31 posted on 08/19/2012 4:49:18 PM PDT by JediJones (Too Hot for GOP TV: Newt Gingrich, Sarah Palin, Allen West and Donald Trump)
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To: RIghtwardHo

Grow a spine.


32 posted on 08/19/2012 4:50:05 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: mrsmith
A quick “I mispoke” will take care of it.

Doubtful.

Just don’t let it be ‘Maccaca’d’ by the media.

If that could be done George Allen would be in the Senate today.

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33 posted on 08/19/2012 4:50:26 PM PDT by JCG
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“This group of dramatic-chipmunks sees a shallow opportunity to try to knock off this guy and maybe get him replaced by the candidate they thought should have been the primary winner. So they are demanding that he leaves the race.

Im sorry I missed the moment when they held a gun to his head and made him say the most stupid thing possible in a campaign... Put this one in the Dems column....


34 posted on 08/19/2012 4:50:37 PM PDT by Breto (The Establishment party is killing our country)
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To: pistolpackinpapa
This race is NOT about abortion, except in the eyes of the media and McCaskill.....but there is medical thinking that if a female is a virgin and is raped, pregnancy is rare on a once only occurrence.

That being said, only the media is concerned with Todd Aiken's view on abortion not the voters.

35 posted on 08/19/2012 4:50:41 PM PDT by zerosix (native sunflower)
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To: beandog

I’m not the idiot, you’re the idiot beandog; or else you’re in severe denial. Did you not read what I said about the 1990 Governor’s Race in Texas? Care to put some money on this? I’ll bet you whatever you wanna bet. By the way, go ahead and withdraw from life; nobody would give a crap.


36 posted on 08/19/2012 4:53:30 PM PDT by pistolpackinpapa (Why is it that you never see any Obama bumper stickers on cars going to work in the mornings?)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

I say give him 48 hrs. The larger issue is that if he made this horrific mistake, there are others yet to come.

Not ready for prime time.

We can all bitch and complain that the rules are different between Ds and Rs - a continual double standard.

Well that’s too bad. We can either be principled and lose; or we can pull the plug and win w Steelman. A female candidate is the perfect antidote.

We DESERVE better than this. The control of the Senate is more important than Akin’s career path.

McCaskill has a fortune to spend, and we’ve just let her back in the game. Akin cannot self-fund, either.


37 posted on 08/19/2012 4:53:30 PM PDT by mwl8787
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To: mrsmith

A quick “I mispoke” will take care of it.

Just don’t let it be ‘Maccaca’d’ by the media.

I agree that he mispoke. It sounded to me like he just meant that it is not that easy to get pregnant. I know that it only takes one time to risk getting pregnant, but there is also a huge part of our population that tries for years to get pregnant and can’t. I think he just had a poor choice of words and needs to explain himself a little bit better. Statistics are on his side.


38 posted on 08/19/2012 4:53:58 PM PDT by marstegreg
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To: TomGuy

Not bad.

His opponent, like all Dems, has the abortionist vote locked up. Championing free, tax supported abortions for rape isn’t going to get her any more votes.


39 posted on 08/19/2012 4:54:02 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: mrsmith

“A quick “I mispoke” will take care of it.

Just don’t let it be ‘Maccaca’d’ by the media.”
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I agree, he did misspeak and he has already quickly apologized. He meant to address the issue of pregnancies resulting from forced rapes as contrasted with pregnancies resulting from statutory (but “consensual”) rapes. Pregnancies from the former are relatively rare but from the latter not at all rare.

In any case, he needs to focus his campaign on economic issues and the McCaskill/Obama record of non accomplishment.

Unfortunately, his un-artful choice of subjects/words can be used against him if he and his campaign is not careful. And they will be used against him not least by those in this forum who secretly hope that McCaskill is reelected. Come on folks, you know you’re here and we know (by their works ye shall know them) you’re here.


40 posted on 08/19/2012 4:55:09 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: JediJones
Then please ask Mitt Romney to step down because of all the time he's spending explaining why he's not releasing his taxes.

No kidding, that man is a freakin moron. He should have stepped down after that bizarre Michigan tees speech he gave twice.
42 posted on 08/19/2012 4:55:40 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: VanDeKoik
This group of dramatic-chipmunks sees a shallow opportunity to try to knock off this guy and maybe get him replaced by the candidate they thought should have been the primary winner.

Wrong. People want to win this seat and know how crucial it is if we have any chance at all of winning back the US Senate.

Sarah's endorsements are sometimes good, sometimes awful (as in the case of buffoons like Christine O'Donnell). It is simply not a factor at this time. Aiken made what is probably a fatally stupid statement, and it would be better for him to go away now while we have a chance to run a better candidate.

43 posted on 08/19/2012 4:55:49 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: fieldmarshaldj
To remind folks, Akin did NOT say what Claytie Williams did in Texas. Williams said (albeit jokingly in comparing rape to inclement TX weather), “If it’s inevitable, just relax and enjoy it.”

Thanks for pointing that out. That makes the OP's argument totally disingenuous. I would absolutely agree that anyone who said that should drop out of the race. That is a comment that is clearly insulting and irrelevant to a political campaign, much like Romney's insistence on not releasing his tax returns. Akin's discussion was about a key political issue, abortion. He used some confusing words that liberals are using to disingenuously twist his meaning. But I don't think they'll get much traction out of it because it's a shallow attack on word choice with no actual negative message they can claim he said. People who believe in aborting innocent children aren't going to vote Republican anyway and I have no interest in courting their votes.

44 posted on 08/19/2012 4:55:58 PM PDT by JediJones (Too Hot for GOP TV: Newt Gingrich, Sarah Palin, Allen West and Donald Trump)
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To: Delhi Rebels

‘Aikin is spending a lot of his time saying “What I really meant was...”. ‘

Sorry to hear that, the RNC should send a ‘slickness expert’ his way then.


45 posted on 08/19/2012 4:56:05 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: VanDeKoik

It just seems that we have a large number of drama queens around here lately. There are those Freepers I wouldn’t trust to tell me what the weather was.

I wonder if shaking my computer would shake some sense into people. :)


46 posted on 08/19/2012 4:56:31 PM PDT by beandog (All Aboard the Choo Choo Train to Crazy Town)
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“Rape” is always the first issue the pro-abortion media raise when talking about abortion. Rape and incest. Pro-life candidates should reply. I'll discuss this AFTER we discuss whether the government should subsidize the 98 percent of abortions in the USA that are done as birth control or for convenience.
Many have forgotten that the woman in Roe v Wade claimed she had been raped. She now admits her pregnancy was the result of consensual sex and that her lawyers advised her to claim rape because it would enhance chances of a sympathetic hearing in the courts. Our courts work slowly. Many more have forgotten that the baby girl slated for death was born and immediately put up for adoption. She is now a mother herself. Her birth mother sought her out to ask forgiveness a few years back, to no avail. The baby in the Roe v Wade has not forgiven the now repentant woman who tried to have her murdered. A human interest story of the first magnitude—a natural for OPRAH—this story has been ignored by MSM.
48 posted on 08/19/2012 4:57:12 PM PDT by Godwin1
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To: pistolpackinpapa

“What he said, in essence, when asked about abortion, was that a “legitimate rape” rarely causes pregnancy.”

Clearly what he was trying to say was “forcible rape”. There are different kinds of rape... Sex between an 18 Y.O. and a 17 Y.O. may very well be rape, but it’s most often not a crime of violence. And abortion is not the appropriate answer.

I don’t know if he can talk his way out of this or not though. Depends on how good a politician he is...


49 posted on 08/19/2012 4:57:12 PM PDT by babygene (Figures don't lie, but liars can figure...)
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To: Mechanicos
Probably was meaning an “actual” rape as opposed to alleged rape. Even an East Texas redneck could figure that out, but then again I don't have an axe to grind against Aikin.
50 posted on 08/19/2012 4:57:31 PM PDT by X-spurt (It is truly time for ON YOUR FEET or on your knees)
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