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People on public assistance commit majority of tax refund fraud, police say
Tampa Bay Times ^ | 8/19/12 | Patty Ryan

Posted on 08/19/2012 8:48:47 PM PDT by ruralvoter

FTA:

Tampa police estimate that 80 to 90 percent of the tax refund fraud they encounter is committed by people on public assistance.

"The people who are benefiting most from our taxes are the ones doing it," said police spokeswoman Andrea Davis.

Tampa led the nation in refund fraud last year, with thieves duping the IRS out of $468 million. That's according to a recent analysis by a federal watchdog agency, which put the national loss at $5.2 billion. The Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration said it detected characteristics of refund fraud in 88,724 paid Tampa returns.

No one can say with certainty who took all the money.

But police know where they find the evidence.

Routinely, they see signs of tax fraud commingled with indicators of food assistance, rent assistance, Medicaid or Supplemental Security Income disability checks.

(Excerpt) Read more at tampabay.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: fraud; irs; tax; welfare

1 posted on 08/19/2012 8:48:58 PM PDT by ruralvoter
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To: ruralvoter

A slander . . . surely . . . ? . . . hello?


2 posted on 08/19/2012 8:55:08 PM PDT by YHAOS (you betcha!)
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To: ruralvoter

So THAT’s what he meant when he claimed ‘We got a bunch of hard-workin’ folks out there!’


3 posted on 08/19/2012 8:55:12 PM PDT by relictele
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To: ruralvoter
This absolutely infuriates me, if we had a consumption tax and got rid of the IRS (will never happen) these thieves are consumers and they will pay. Everyone who deals in anything illegal are also consumers. I've been saying this for years. We could force everyone to pay their share. Yes including those on the dole.
4 posted on 08/19/2012 8:55:32 PM PDT by lula ( We cannot afford 4 more years of the Won!)
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To: ruralvoter

“No one can say with certainty who took all the money....... But police know where they find the evidence.”

1600 Pensylvania Avenue.......


5 posted on 08/19/2012 8:56:25 PM PDT by Red Badger (Anyone who thinks wisdom comes with age is either too young or too stupid to know the difference....)
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To: relictele

yeah...working hard at avoiding taxes! How dare we try to take part of what is “rightfully theirs”?


6 posted on 08/19/2012 8:59:41 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: ruralvoter

No sh**....


7 posted on 08/19/2012 8:59:55 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: lula
They would pay their fair share with your tax dollars if they had to pay a consumption tax.. The so called “Fair Tax”
would exclude certain people from paying a consumption tax the government would send them a monthly stipend to pay for the taxed items at least this is how I read it. Just like Obamacare certain incomes will get money from the government to pay for their forced insurance and I am not talking about seniors but incomes up to 90K ridiculous.
8 posted on 08/19/2012 9:07:54 PM PDT by funfan
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To: ruralvoter

What a shock. I wonder if they are associated with other crime as well.

WE who pay the taxes are treated like criminals on every turn, hounded and pursued unmercifully. We pay taxes, insurance, fees and fines without limits. We pay for our houses and property that we only really rent for taxes. WE are drug tested at random and for employment.

How about drug testing the wards of the state, all the people sitting on their butts taking our money before they can get it? How about politicians? How about the pres? FAT CHANCE.

I was working for a large corporation back when random drug testing became active. I was a budding middle manager with a seat at the management team table and asked when we, the management team, were going to be tested. That went over big and even bigger when I said it was only right. People really talk a great line of self-righteousness I suppose.


9 posted on 08/19/2012 9:09:40 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Half the people are below average, they voted for oblabla.)
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To: ruralvoter

What’s so special about Tampa that it owns so much of this fraudulent behavior?


10 posted on 08/19/2012 9:13:34 PM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: ruralvoter

Gee hav they looked at Congress and their buddies?


11 posted on 08/19/2012 9:15:43 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: CaptainK

I’m sure it’s not just Tampa. I’m sure this was a close race.


12 posted on 08/19/2012 9:17:13 PM PDT by barmag25
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To: ruralvoter
Tampa police estimate that 80 to 90 percent of the tax refund fraud they encounter is committed by people on public assistance.

That, and welfare fraud on a massive scale is totally unexpected and unprecedented, too.

There is no well-intentioned program that the mind of predator criminals can't exploit and circumvent.
The only prevention is eliminating inattention, and adult administrators smarter than the criminals.

"Doubling down" NEVER works.

13 posted on 08/19/2012 9:30:54 PM PDT by publius911 (Formerly Publius 6961, formerly jennsdad)
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To: bigbob

Gallows humor always a necessity when dealing with the IRS, but they are a whisker away from being the Thought Police and it will only get worse if/when Obamacare kicks in.

A sixth grader could detect the fraud that goes on here but certain people live in certain untouchable districts/cities so the boat isn’t rocked. Meanwhile, I know people who have gone to great personal effort and expense to adopt children from Asia and give them loving homes they had no chance at in their homeland.

Their reward? A load of letters and threats from the IRS demanding proof that a flight to China was an expense related to the adoption process! Insane.

I don’t think either the pro or con side realizes the real game of the Mexican illegal invasion - they don’t want amnesty because they don’t want citizenship. Citizenship would mean paying taxes!


14 posted on 08/19/2012 9:36:12 PM PDT by relictele
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To: ruralvoter
What? Money Grabbers grabbing more? I am shocked, I tell you. Shocked!
15 posted on 08/19/2012 9:39:43 PM PDT by Chgogal (WSJ, Coulter, Kristol, Krauthammer, Rove et al., STFU. TY)
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To: ruralvoter

“People on public assistance commit majority of tax refund fraud, police say”

DUH....


16 posted on 08/19/2012 9:46:59 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: tcrlaf

what percentage are illegals


17 posted on 08/19/2012 9:53:51 PM PDT by scooby321 (AMS)
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To: ruralvoter

The commie libs love to tell us about how much the freeloaders and illegal aliens pay in taxes. That BS just isn’t true and is nothing but a DemocRAT myth. The majority of them get a hell of a lot more back in taxes than they ever paid in.


18 posted on 08/19/2012 10:40:30 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Had enough of the freaks running the show yet?)
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To: ruralvoter

DUH!


19 posted on 08/20/2012 1:04:26 AM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: tcrlaf

The added IRS army is out to get the legitimate tax payers


20 posted on 08/20/2012 4:13:21 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (BB)
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To: ruralvoter

Go to your local grocery store. Stand by the counter and watch just how many welfare cheats buy groceries in comparison to actual cash paying customers.

Follow them into the parking lot and see what they are driving. That in itself will identify a “cheat” to anyone with a brain over the size of a pea.

Next, follow them home and you will normally find about 3 to 5 cars parked there. It’s what we call a “hive” down here. Multiple families of women with children on welfare living with men who work for a living. Dual income and food...what a wonderful world it is here in America where we share the wealth....that is of average working people!


21 posted on 08/20/2012 4:20:59 AM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: ruralvoter
Some, like Shawntrece Sims, triple-dip. Sims, 32, gained notoriety by using tax money for a fertility procedure. ... Authorities believe she collected $672,887. ... For much of 2009, she also drew a monthly $660 housing subsidy, along with a $1,348 SSI disability check.
grrrrrrr!!!!
22 posted on 08/20/2012 4:25:54 AM PDT by Condor51 (Si vis pacem, para bellum.)
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To: ruralvoter

Kind of makes sense. Not everyone getting assistance is deserving of it and once that criminal enterprise is undertaken the next will surely follow.


23 posted on 08/20/2012 5:25:48 AM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: ruralvoter

“Sims’ plea deal was a significant victory, and the IRS played a big role in that investigation. This summer, the federal government also charged Danielle Denson, alleging the exotic dancer collected $1.6 million in returns, spending proceeds on a Mercedes-Benz, plastic surgery and a $300 thong from Gucci. She awaits trial or a plea deal.”

Plea deal? How much of that money was recovered? All these people defrauding their fellow citizens should be stripped of their citizenship for life which is about how long their sentences should be. Plea deal? Insane.


24 posted on 08/20/2012 5:40:58 AM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: ruralvoter

In Alaska I hear of horror stories about just how bad the Office of Childrens Services are, I am in debt to them for $9,000 for foster care fees for my autistic son they declared needed special ed and living quarters.

So they take out over $200 per week from my reduced paycheck suffering from depressed construction jobs.

And when my employer is late with the payment to them they then send a threatening letter they will refuse my application for any passport and or deny my renewal of my commercial drivers license.

Now these tactics are quite true, I am not fabricating anything, and its happening now. So what will happen if Obamacare gets passed? Luckily for now Alaska has opted out.

But in other states if you fail to pay Obamacare they may just duplicate what the OCS in Alaska does. Keep you a prisoner so you cannot leave.


25 posted on 08/20/2012 5:48:34 AM PDT by Eye of Unk (Vote for Sarah Palin, she is the cure to the disease and infection of socialism.)
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To: ruralvoter
...signs of tax fraud commingled with indicators of food assistance, rent assistance, Medicaid or Supplemental Security Income disability checks

In too many cases the first fraud is the act of illegally applying for the various (too many, IMO) federal and state giveaway programs.

(With apologies and sympathies for all those who truly deserve and appreciate receiving public/private assistance.)

26 posted on 08/20/2012 5:53:13 AM PDT by citizen (America is at an awkward stage...Too late to work within the system, too early to shoot the bastards)
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To: DH
Follow them into the parking lot and see what they are driving

My Mom used to work for the state. One of the zealous young auditors there used to do exactly this....until he was told to "knock it off".

She and he used to get along pretty well. Her caseload was around 400 "clients", and since Mom is a hardass, she was usually given the tougher ones. She used to LOVE catching them doubledipping, etc, and turning them into the auditor - this young zealous one in particular.

And, FWIW, the bureaucracy eventually even ground my Mom down. She got tired of higher ups either not caring, or actively promoting all the fraud, and quit to become a librarian. A lot lower stress.

27 posted on 08/20/2012 6:06:41 AM PDT by wbill
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