Skip to comments.Romney says Ryan won't oppose abortion in rape cases (Romney supports both rape & incest abortion)
Posted on 08/20/2012 5:17:54 AM PDT by xzins
Odious remarks by GOP Missouri Senate candidate Cong. Todd Akin about how few pregnancies result from "legitimate rape" have done more than outrage people across the country and doom Akin's bid to move up from the House.
It motivated the Romney campaign - - already trailing among women voters in recent polls - - to distance itself from Akin by assuring voters that Romney and Paul Ryan - - the "Romney-Ryan administration" - - should they win in November, would not oppose raped women's access to abortion.
"Governor Romney and Congressman (Paul) Ryan disagree with Mr. Akin's statement, and a Romney-Ryan administration would not oppose abortion in instances of rape," Romney spokeswoman Amanda Henneberg said.
You'd probably say that sounds reasonable and humane - - except it was just three days ago that PolitiFact devoted a lot of space to this issue and found that while Romney backed abortions in cases of incest and rape, Ryan did not.
And had been an abortion opponent throughout his entire political career - - backing an exception only when the life of the mother was at stake - - thus earning a perfect score from a leading anti-abortion organization on this basic tenet of conservative ideology and practice.
News coverage of Ryans first congressional race in 1998, as well as statements he made to the National Right to Life Committee, a leading anti-abortion group, show Ryan has taken a stricter anti-abortion view than Romney.
The only anti-abortion exception Ryan favors is situations where an abortion is needed to save the life of the mother, the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reported. The National Right to Life Committee concurs, based on information the group says it collected in 1998 and 2000 from Ryan as a candidate.
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Except for accidents and self defense....there is NO defense for murder.
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It’s not relevant to the position he’ll be taking. He can make no change whatsoever to abortion law as vice-president unless there’s a 50-50 tie. Ryan is clearly pro-life and can be judged on his record in congress. Romney and his advisers are trying to get everybody on the same policy page (which is totally stupid but whatever).
Romney should have told them that the question was below his pay grade. Now, let’s talk about the economy . . .
Answer, no I will not vote for fubo...
I will not vote for mcromney either...
I will vote for the one that most closely reflects my views and beliefs....
If you vote for someone that does not reflect your view then you are merely lying to yourself...
or your views and beliefs are just not as important to you as having your “team” win...
once you cast your ballot for mcromney, you in fact giving your support to everything he stands for, including..
abortion on demand..
cap n trade..
and so on and so forth..
in other words, you are giving your defacto support to the liberal agenda..
You are, in fact, electing a socialist, and no, our socialist is not better than their socialist.
a socialist is a socialist, regardless of the vp choice..
So, I ask you, are you on the side of socialism, or not?
inquiring minds want to know...
All of his views should be reported, NT. He wants our votes, so I want to know all he believes and evidence for or against what he says.
The National Right to Life, which opposes abortion for rape or incest, endorsed Romney who does support abortion for rape or incest.
I assume that they have gone the route of many who have chosen what they believe to be pragmatism over their principles.
While I understand that, and I don’t fault legitimate, conservative ABOs, I choose not to follow that same route. My choice, my vote.
And, yes, it is possible to vote for Virgil Goode in Ohio since he is on the ballot. And, no, I doubt that any national right to life group will endorse a minor party, although I think that decision would be misguided.
how long before the 2016 cheerleading of palin/ryan or ryan/palin begins ??? will we even have to wait til november ???
“Akin was answering a question....the people making a mountain out of it are: mercenary liberals who will try and make hay off of any gaffe AND pants-wetting conservatives who give the liberals encouragement.”
Let me be clear. I am not harping on Akin because of his view of abortions related to rape. He could have easily answered the question by standing up for life. I am harping on him because of his complete and outlandish ignorance and stupidity with regard to basic physiology that he apparently uses as a basis for his views.
I saw nothing "odious" about what Akin said. His comments re: the rarity of pregnancy in cases of extreme stress (i.e. a rape, famine, and for crying out loud, even someone who is stressed about trying to get pregnant) are correct.
And I happen to agree that we should not punish one of the innocent parties if a pregnancy results from rape. Punish the perpetrator.
I've stated to those who are pro-abort, "Okay, lets keep abortion legal in cases of rape and incest and make it illegal otherwise. The only caveat would be that, starting at the point of requesting the abortion, the victim will be required to cooperate with the police in finding and punishing the guilty person or persons." They always try to change the subject, because that's not really why they want abortion to be legal.
“So Romney-Ryan are liberal on abortion. That isn’t going to be decided this presidential term, people!”
Wait, I thought we all needed to get behind Romney because we couldn’t afford to let Obama appoint any more Supreme Court justices. So, the converse of that is we should want Romney to appoint the justices instead. Therefore, Romney’s views on abortion are very relevant, because that issue very well could be decided in this presidential term, via the Supreme Court picks.
This wasn't an "off the cuff" remark. He was asked the question directly. If he had refused to answer and tried to change the subject, the media would have blown that all out of proportion.
Don't blame Akin - blame the media for doing all they can to avoid talking things that show how dramatically Obama has failed.
Bottom Line the fool gave the Democrats a talking point when the discussion should have been on the economy not abortions
Because it is the one time where the woman had no choice in becoming pregnant. Of course it is still killing a human life, but many do not feel a woman shoule be forced to carry a reminder of her rape to term.....that it truly was not her choice. Maybe for some women the emotional turmoil of being reminded for 9 months of their rape would do serious damage to their mental health, especially if they already have serious mental health issues. Some prolife sources say only about half of raped women choose abortion. I do not know how true that statisitic is, though.
Why do you believe he is a jerk?
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Yes, I know, we've been hearing for forty years how it doesn't matter if certain people are pro-abortion or not. That might help explain why nearly 4000 babies are being slaughtered each day.
He was asked specifically, "What do you believe about abortion in cases of rape?" What should he have said that would not have given the liberal media something to use to draw attention away from Obama's epic failure?
The same ads were on TV this morning here in southern Ohio.
And, Lo, this case of Akin allows Romney’s real views to be shared. One could almost wonder if it were accidental....nah...they’re not that devious....are they?
The other ads are AARP & Obama saying Ryan really wants to kill old people and take 6700 dollars of their money. They then call AARP a “nonpartisan organization”. I almost choked on my BLT when I heard that. :>)