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Romney: Akin’s ‘Inexcusable’ Comment
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/314452/romney-akins-inexcusable-comment-robert-costa ^

Posted on 08/20/2012 9:29:47 AM PDT by StevenFlorida

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To: StevenFlorida

More evidence that Romney should never have been th enominee. What a moral coward.


61 posted on 08/20/2012 10:35:20 AM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: wiggen
A claim of rape may be illegitimate but the deed itself is never ‘legitimate’.
Did he ever claim rape was legitimate?

Its an absolutely moronic statement.
Well you've not shown that he made any such statement.

Post his words, not your take on his words.

62 posted on 08/20/2012 10:35:41 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36
As was pointed out several times in the multitude of "media firestorm" articles here yesterday, women who are victims of a "legitimate" rape, not consensual sex that is later reported as rape, are usually given an abortifacient when they're examined in the hospital. Just one reason why women who are actually raped usually don't have children.

Ohhh please -- don't interject common sense into this discussion.

63 posted on 08/20/2012 10:38:10 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Kazan
Yeah, it was totally unnecessary that "conservatives" piled on rather than let the issue die out.

The objective here is to send Claire back to running her nursing home empire. NOT give off the cuff answers that she and the JonStewart media will play every thirty minutes to saturate the minds of Missouri voters..... Akin said 'legitimate rape'.... and that women of rape prevent themselves from getting pregnant. This as you call it 'issue' is alllll we in Missouri are going to be hearing 24/7 even well after election day.

How many of the 'unborn' are Akin's answers going to 'save', if that really is the objective? Clarie is of the same mind as Obama, and yet she has spent the past year trying to find tall grass to cover her liberalism... Guess what... Akin handed her a 'mink' coat.

64 posted on 08/20/2012 10:40:21 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: philman_36

I was unaware that it was a response to an interview question.

Still, the man stepped in it.
Everyone knows Abortion is a 3rd rail issue.
Akin should have known to let it rest

Had he kept quiet he may have gotten the Senate seat and done some good.
To overturn Roe V Wade We need the Senate and the SCOTUS
Even then it still just goes back to the states.

The man just cut his nose off to spite OUR face.


65 posted on 08/20/2012 10:40:45 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Vaquero

1. I remember watching a documentary type show on the Discovery Channel (or some channel like it), it was about SEX. And it said a woman has a greater success rate in getting pregnant when she was in “LOVE” with a man. Something like she has more estrogen released during sex when she’s really infactuated with her lover. So I think that’s what he was suggesting or commenting on.

2. I agree with him on his opinion about rape and abortion. If you’re against abortion and believe that killing an unborn child is wrong, you should be against killing an unborn child…period.

3. It was stupid of him to even comment on it. Too controversial. A skilled politician would have known how to answer that question without actually answering it.


66 posted on 08/20/2012 10:42:17 AM PDT by skinndogNN
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To: philman_36
The proverbial "loaded" question. Todd answered in gobbldygook. He used words that were poorly chosen, and referenced "biological" defenses women have... as a metaphor for what is provided to women who have established the legal definition of rape, and not regretted consensual sex that is then claimed to be rape. Consensuality being the key element to the question.

An abortifacient is provided at the hospital on examination and the legal establishment of the crime. The victim chooses whether to bear a potential pregnancy. That is the current law in most if not all states. Romney took a cheap, completely unneeded shot at Akins nationalizing a Senate race for a seat a certifiable idiot democrat holds-- we need a R Senate. Unless he was asked, he should have just shut up, given that it is state law how this is handled, legally.

67 posted on 08/20/2012 10:45:02 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: PAConservative1
I agree it's good to avoid controversial declarations...no question

But the media frames abortion over the rape exclusion always for us

and I think Akin was right that pregnancy from rape is quite rare and that possibly a woman's state of mind and physical revulsion makes fertilization less likely than in a toe curling mutual simultaneous orgasmic encounter in the back seat of the pickup would...

his awkward line about legitimate rape is also accurate in today's heated culture over when no means no and all that but poorly worded

he was already fighting the rape exclusion battle so why delve into what is rape and what isn't

i just don;t get the glee some here have to ditch a proven social conservative overboard...I agree with the poster he should fight back

and this notion that all GOP are tarred is something that happens if we allow it

I think RINOs are simply lazy...they won't fight

maybe MO has someone to step in...folks there can decide that but it irks me that we toss folks over instantly whilst they keep actual drunk driving manslaughterering sexual assaulting and generally criminally offensive folks at their masthead for decades

and we Run For The Hills in an instant...

we allow the narrative to rule us

this is a line frequently here between culture warriors and those who are not

68 posted on 08/20/2012 10:45:47 AM PDT by wardaddy (this white hair don't cover up my redneck......)
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To: Kazan

Is Senator Ron Johnson a “conservative?”


69 posted on 08/20/2012 10:47:01 AM PDT by donozark (I never trusted anyone above the rank of Corporal, including myself.)
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To: wiggen
An emotional definition from popular usage. However the proper meaning of "legitimate" is:

In accordance with the law or established legal forms and requirements; lawful.   Conforming to known principles, or established or accepted rules or standards; valid. Authentic, real, genuine. Lawfully begotten, i.e., born to a legally married couple. Relating to hereditary rights.

As in, legally defined rape.... not the "right or wrongness" of the action of someone being raped. This is quite more than semantics, however very clever of dems to continue to appeal to the Emotional content of the point being made. Akins probably did not do too well in debate team... but that is not a reason to give this to a confirmed moron McKaskill as a lock step dem abortionist.

70 posted on 08/20/2012 10:51:43 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: StevenFlorida

This thread is the first I’ve seen on what his comment actually was.

I think he should be disqualified on grounds of sheer biological ignorance. If he slept through high school biology he likely slept through all the other subjects too.


71 posted on 08/20/2012 10:52:38 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: philman_36
He was asked a question in an interview and he answered it.

Yes. He answered it very poorly. Every pro life candidiate should have the response to the rape exception firmly programmed into his brain box. Tell a true life story of people who were conceived from a rape. Stress the dignity of the human person and the right to life in the Declaration. ABC stuff.

72 posted on 08/20/2012 10:53:36 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever.)
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To: StevenFlorida

I ASSUME he meant that in the event of physically violent forcible rape the female reproductive mechanism malfunctions, such that conception is barred. Even if that were true, which seems to me highly unlikely (from the depths of my shallow pool of knowledge about the processes involved), there was no compelling reason to say it, and it was said with an appallingly bad choice of words.


73 posted on 08/20/2012 11:01:04 AM PDT by Elsiejay
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To: philman_36

why should i post his words? Have you not read them? They have only been posted in about 100 articles on Freep. Are you trying to say you jumped into the thread with no knowledge of what the moron said?


74 posted on 08/20/2012 11:01:04 AM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: albie
This happened in TX. Forget the name of the Republican nominee for gov but his crack was similar and gave TX Ann Richards.

That would be Clayton Williams in 1990 while running for governor against Ann Richards, of 1988 silver foot fame. Williams airily compared rape to the weather, saying, if it's inevitable, you might as well relax and enjoy it. Richards won.

Unlike Akin's explanation of a policy position, Williams's joke was actually offensive. He made light of a serious matter which, in ordinary circumstances, only affects women. It should never have got beyond the locker room.

All Akin did was (1) to use a correct but contextually ill-advised adjective ("legitimate") and (2) to adduce possibly questionable medical research in support of the contention that pregnancy resulting from forcible rape is rare. Of course, his real sin is to be against aborting rape babies, and his real blunder was to answer the interviewer's question instead of changing the subject back to the economy.

75 posted on 08/20/2012 11:12:15 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Corporate Law

“McCaskill is one of the stupidest people in Washington.”

Stupid? Actually she is smart as a fox. McCaskill is the one who ran ads trying to get Aiken the GOP nomination. Her goose was cooked unless she could get Aiken as an opponent. Her strategy may pay off.

I was also suspicious when the liberal Post-Dispatch worked to get Aiken the nomination.


76 posted on 08/20/2012 11:25:34 AM PDT by StevenFlorida
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To: Strategerist

“I see no evidence he misspoke”

It’s really irrelevant if he did or did not. In politics, you misspoke...period.

Apologize and move on or hand the Senate to the Socialists.


77 posted on 08/20/2012 11:29:26 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (Conservative Economic and National Security Commentary: econus.blogspot.com)
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To: jboot

“Then you need a new candidate.”

Then you lose. It’s too late. Why do you think the media has made this the National story of the Day?

They know if they force him to resign....a born loser in Missouri wins and 1 Senate seat could be the difference in keeping Harry Reid running the Senate.


78 posted on 08/20/2012 11:32:21 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (Conservative Economic and National Security Commentary: econus.blogspot.com)
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To: wiggen
why should i post his words? Have you not read them? They have only been posted in about 100 articles on Freep. Are you trying to say you jumped into the thread with no knowledge of what the moron said?

What Akin actually said: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M09iWwKiDsA#t=121s

79 posted on 08/20/2012 11:34:19 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Kazan

“He was simply implying if abortion was legal in the case of rape, some women would make false claims of rape to get one. That is a fact. There is nothing wrong with a pro-life candidate stating that.”

That is correct. But he spoke in such an ignorant manner, that you could never convince anybody of that. Clarify? The stone is set....You can state that case but you won’t persuade anybody after the media has their week with this.....apologize for muffing it and move on.


80 posted on 08/20/2012 11:37:34 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (Conservative Economic and National Security Commentary: econus.blogspot.com)
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