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Deconstructing Akinís 'legitimate rape' flap
Examiner .com ^ | August 20, 2012 | Doug Edelman

Posted on 08/20/2012 2:45:36 PM PDT by Da Bilge Troll

Consternation abounds and much political hay is being made about an offhand phrase used by Senate candidate and current Congressman, Todd Akin, where he uttered the words, “legitimate rape”.

In an interview on St. Louis’s Fox station, Akin was answering a question about allowing abortions in the case of rape. He said, “If it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down.”

In an all too common case of misapplied grammar, the left went apoplectic as though Akin were “legitimizing” or justifying rape under any circumstance. Such a conclusion is patently ridiculous.

So let’s deconstruct and analyze just what Akin was getting at.

The sphere of sexual assault includes many violent and demeaning acts which are not pregnancy-inducing; from penetration by foreign objects to sodomy. Further, not all rapes conclude with an internal ejaculation. Not all meet with resistance as with intoxicated victims or those administered date-rape drugs.

To limit conversation to defining “rape” as the uninvited, unwelcome, violent act of completed penetration in the face of resistance – he perhaps unwisely used the word “legitimate” to describe an act meeting this criteria.

His point: In cases of unwanted and resisted penetration, there are biochemical and biomechanical responses in the female which diminish the hospitable environment for a sperm/egg union. Changes in pH, mucus viscosity, and internal rhythmic cycles which, in welcome and pleasurable intercourse, help to facilitate the union are absent. In fact, fear, struggle and resistance will create a more hostile environment for sperm, and for deep injection. While nowhere near a perfect contraceptive defense… the body is statistically less likely to become pregnant from an unwanted encounter than a welcomed one. This was his point, whether poorly made or not.

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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Missouri
KEYWORDS: abortion; akin; hypoocrisy; mo2012; obamunism; rape; raperape; romanpolanski
Good article, but even he miss-quotes Todd Akin. Akin said, "I've heard from doctors that..." Now, unless we know for a fact that no doctor has ever said that to Todd Akin then how can we dispute it? Granted, "legitimate" is a word I would not use when referencing rape and he might have said, "I've heard doctors speculate...", but otherwise I have no problem with what he actually said.
1 posted on 08/20/2012 2:45:44 PM PDT by Da Bilge Troll
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To: Da Bilge Troll

“Legitimate” was a poor choice of words, but anyone who listened could understand what he meant. “Rape” is an excuse for the abortion-on-demand crowd. Very few pregnancies from geniune rape cases. But has usual, the Dems want to cloud the issue, and as usual, spineless Repubs accommodate them...


2 posted on 08/20/2012 2:49:20 PM PDT by PauldArco
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To: Da Bilge Troll

Akin has made a gaffe that no Republican candidate can ever recover from. Yes, if he was a Democrat he would get a pass. A Democrat can say just about anything and the lamestream media will provide cover. It isn’t fair, but life isn’t fair.

It doesn’t matter how good of a candidate Akin might have been. He is now toast. If he does not step down, then the Democrat will win the seat.

Plus, Akin will pull down conservative candidates all over the country. Every Democrat running for any office in the U.S. will be running ads with Akin as the poster child for the conservative “war on women.”


3 posted on 08/20/2012 2:51:02 PM PDT by Bubba_Leroy (The Obamanation Continues)
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To: Da Bilge Troll

How can academic eggheads be so stupid?


4 posted on 08/20/2012 2:51:09 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Da Bilge Troll
While nowhere near a perfect contraceptive defense… the body is statistically less likely to become pregnant from an unwanted encounter than a welcomed one. This was his point, whether poorly made or not.

Exactly. The only real problem with his statement was that he said "legitimate," but as he said, he misspoke.

5 posted on 08/20/2012 2:55:18 PM PDT by Kleon
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To: Da Bilge Troll
It was unfortunate but in today's world one needs to choose his or her words very carefully. Once the media says abortion the red light needs to go on in the candidates head. Danger!!!!! Don't screw up. MY only response would be to say my private view is irrelevant in this case. My opinion is this was a wrongly decided Supreme Court case that took power of decision from the states where it belonged. That and not a word more. I am running for a federal office and that is my response. Live with it. The guy is now kryptonite.
6 posted on 08/20/2012 3:01:45 PM PDT by prof.h.mandingo (Buck v. Bell (1927) An idea whose time has come (for extreme liberalism))
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To: mylife

I guess they are human as well and are not perfect.


7 posted on 08/20/2012 3:02:35 PM PDT by elephant
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To: Kleon
Exactly. The only real problem with his statement was that he said "legitimate," but as he said, he misspoke.

The real problem is that this shows Akin did not do his homework in crafting a prepared response. This simply should not have happened.

8 posted on 08/20/2012 3:04:51 PM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: Kleon
As I pointed out in this post, the much bantered about 5% statistical probability of pregnancy from rape is pure BS.

My wife should have had around 150 pregnancies if this statistic was even close to correct. And that's assuming that relaxed consensual intercourse in the most efficient position possible is no more successful in conception than forced entry.

So Akin was technically correct, but he was a fool to put it in those terms. The only thing left for him to do now is to make a speedy and graceful exit and maybe run for office in a future election cycle once this mega-gaffe is forgotten.

9 posted on 08/20/2012 3:12:43 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: FatherofFive

Most, if not all, self inflected wounds, when committed by a republican, are terminal... its just the way it is....

As a great thinker once said “stupid is as stupid does”


10 posted on 08/20/2012 3:13:42 PM PDT by Breto (The Establishment party is killing our country)
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To: Da Bilge Troll

The second a politician utters a phrase like “legitimate rape” he has already lost (though not necessarily the election) no matter how sound some of his underlying logic may be. What a stupid turn of phrase.


11 posted on 08/20/2012 3:14:10 PM PDT by Woodsman27
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I disagree. If “rape” were the only reason that abortion would be legal, then every woman who wanted one would say “yes, I was raped”. That would be an ILLEGITIMATE rape if there was consenual sex and the woman was too cheap or lazy to use birth control.


12 posted on 08/20/2012 3:36:46 PM PDT by LetsRok
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To: Woodsman27

I disagree. If “rape” were the only reason that abortion would be legal, then every woman who wanted one would say “yes, I was raped”. That would be an ILLEGITIMATE rape if there was consenual sex and the woman was too cheap or lazy to use birth control.


13 posted on 08/20/2012 3:37:06 PM PDT by LetsRok
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To: PauldArco

The proper term should have been, “verifiable” or “actual” instead of the stupid words he chose. In addition he should have stated statistics show in those cases pregnancy is rare. Geesh this guy is a disaster! And then he should have SHUT UP!

Republicans and some RATS don’t like to vote for people who are an embarrassment to them. This guy is an embarrassment. He is the “Tom Foley” of Republicans.


14 posted on 08/20/2012 3:39:42 PM PDT by lone star annie
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To: Kleon

Barack Obama is an illegitimate bastard, never forget. His daddy’s marriage to his momma was a fraud because he was a bigamist/polygamist.


15 posted on 08/20/2012 3:41:26 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Only Obama put a dog on the roof of his mouth. Dogs are friends, not food.)
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To: Da Bilge Troll
The fact is the discussion was irrelevant in the first place.

This had to do with 'exceptions' to abortion (rape and incest) and even if pregnancy was rare in the case of rape, it still happens, so what is the point of even bringing it up?

16 posted on 08/20/2012 3:46:29 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: Da Bilge Troll

It doesn’t matter what he meant or how he mispoke, he has to quit or McCaskill will win. That is the simple reality.


17 posted on 08/20/2012 4:14:59 PM PDT by AdaGray
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To: lone star annie
This guy is an embarrassment. He is the “Tom Foley” of Republicans.

A congressman that has sex with underage boys is comparable to a conservative that believes there would be false claims of rape if abortion were illegal with a rape exception allowed?

18 posted on 08/20/2012 4:26:01 PM PDT by Kazan (Mitt Romney: The greater of two evils)
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To: Da Bilge Troll

We can argue every side of Akin’s gaffe, but is anyone else JUST SICK TO DEATH of having to fancy dance around the Goddess of Infanticide (and all her touchy worshipers)? She’ll use an innocent rape victim to distract but what she’s really after is that sacrifice!


19 posted on 08/20/2012 6:03:31 PM PDT by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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To: a fool in paradise
Barack Obama is an illegitimate bastard

Barack Øbama is an illegitimate President.

20 posted on 08/20/2012 6:16:34 PM PDT by lightman (Settling for the "lesser of two..." is still choosing Evil)
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