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Fisker Issues Second Recall of Electric Car (initiates voluntary recall of Karmas)
Yahoo! News ^ | 8/20/12 | Randy Kreider | ABC News

Posted on 08/20/2012 8:02:10 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

After the second of two mysterious fires in a Karma sedan, the government-backed electric car-maker Fisker has initiated a voluntary recall of its luxury vehicles.

In a statement, Fisker spokesman Roger Ormisher said that Fisker engineers and an independent fire expert had "identified the root cause" of a fire that swept through a Karma parked outside a Woodside, California grocery store on August 10.

"The investigation located the ignition source to the left front of the Karma, forward of the wheel, where the low-temperature cooling fan is located," said the statement. "The final conclusion was that this sealed component had an internal fault that caused it to fail, overheat and start a slow burning fire."

Fisker announced a voluntary recall "with respect to this cooling fan unit" and said it had already contacted its retailers.

As first reported by Jalopnik.com, the owner found the vehicle burning in the parking lot when he returned from shopping. At the time, the Woodside Fire Department said the immediate cause of the blaze appeared to be "heat from powered equipment," and firefighters cut the car's battery cable after putting out the fire. Woodside Fire Chief Dan Ghiorso told ABC News that the origin of the fire appeared to be inside the engine compartment, though Fisker said in a statement that it was determined to be outside the compartment in an area "forward of the driver's side front tire."

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government
KEYWORDS: electriccar; fisker; green; greencars; recall; taxdollarsatwork
Karma.. once ya got it.. it's hard to get rid of.
1 posted on 08/20/2012 8:02:15 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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Houston.. We got us a problem, here.


2 posted on 08/20/2012 8:03:34 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: NormsRevenge; All


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3 posted on 08/20/2012 8:04:46 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: NormsRevenge

What a $100,000 dollar POS


4 posted on 08/20/2012 8:04:51 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: NormsRevenge
firefighters cut the car's battery cable after putting out the fire?
5 posted on 08/20/2012 8:07:19 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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Just getting the bugs ironed out.. maybe they have Volt loaners.


6 posted on 08/20/2012 8:07:19 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: NormsRevenge

Do it yourself Voltswagon.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2920881/posts


7 posted on 08/20/2012 8:08:43 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cripplecreek

Voltswagon! LOL!


8 posted on 08/20/2012 8:10:21 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: NormsRevenge

Lotsa bad Karma lately.


9 posted on 08/20/2012 8:16:28 PM PDT by RobinOfKingston (The instinct toward liberalism is located in the part of the brain called the rectal lobe.)
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To: NormsRevenge

This is one of my biggest problems with the electric car (and I suspect why the EV-1 rental fleet was recalled and destroyed).

These vehicles are more like a space shuttle than, say, a ‘69 Camaro. What I mean by that is that they are very complex, and alot of stuff has to go Right...or they may catch on fire.

What on earth is going to happen, as the electrical vehicle fleet ages? Some of these ‘sealed compartments’ might start leaking on the entire fleet.

Electric vehicles should be left as toys for the uber rich...they can afford to maintain them, in the same manner one might maintain a private aircraft. Anything less than that will ultimately result in more fires.


10 posted on 08/20/2012 8:17:52 PM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: mylife

“firefighters cut the car’s battery cable after putting out the fire?”

Yes, and I would also do so on a hybrid or an EV unless it was a battery fire in which case it would be lots of water and stand way back waiting for detonation.

I am a lot more leery of EV/hybrid fires than 50 gallons of gasoline in a fully involved Suburban.


11 posted on 08/20/2012 8:19:36 PM PDT by Clay Moore (The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of a fool to the left. Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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To: NormsRevenge

Isn’t Fisker one of Algore’s gigs?


12 posted on 08/20/2012 8:21:58 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Had enough of the freaks running the show yet?)
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To: NormsRevenge

Karma on fire!


13 posted on 08/20/2012 8:23:27 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong!)
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To: Clay Moore

It was not a hybrid.


14 posted on 08/20/2012 8:24:48 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: lacrew
Electric vehicles should be left as toys for the uber rich...they can afford to maintain them, in the same manner one might maintain a private aircraft. Anything less than that will ultimately result in more fires.

I've heard Jay Leno basically say the same thing. He said he likes his but its not for everyone. He cited expense, limited range, his own personal diving habits etc.
15 posted on 08/20/2012 8:25:28 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: NormsRevenge

Instant Karma’s gonna get you...


16 posted on 08/20/2012 8:26:39 PM PDT by SIDENET ("If that's your best, your best won't do." -Dee Snider)
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To: NormsRevenge

karma...the name alone...will-not-make jokes.


17 posted on 08/20/2012 8:27:44 PM PDT by Conservative4Ever (The Obamas = rude, crude and socially unacceptable)
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To: NormsRevenge

Wow, who would hate to return to their car and see THAT.

Are the affected owners going to get new cars and houses that burned down?


18 posted on 08/20/2012 8:32:51 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: lacrew

That isn’t why the EV-1’s were taken back. They were not recalled. The people who wnet into that program never actually owned them, they were loaned to them with the expectation GM would take them back. People driving them begged to buy them when they were told GM was going to demolish them.

And they didn’t have the problems these newer cars have, they were using regular lead acid batteries and less technical, technology.

Everyone I have ever read about who participated in the EV-1 study really liked the cars and had overall very good things to say about them. They were pretty small for their time and perhaps GM didn’t think they’d sell because of that. Also given there wasn’t huge general popular demand for alternatives and even less charging stations around in case you did need a boost.


19 posted on 08/20/2012 8:38:29 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: NormsRevenge
After the second of two mysterious fires in a Karma sedan, the government-backed electric car-maker Fisker has initiated a voluntary recall of its luxury vehicles.

Another Obamamobile goes up in smoke!!

20 posted on 08/20/2012 8:41:24 PM PDT by DustyMoment (Congress - another name for white collar criminals!!)
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To: NormsRevenge
The Fisker Karma, at nearly $200,000 each, is perfect for rich folks who want to show the rest of the peasants who cares for the environment: they self-destruct. The lottery is you don't know when your Karma will immolate itself. It might be at one mile or 100,000 or somewhere in between. Ka-ching!
21 posted on 08/20/2012 8:41:48 PM PDT by MasterGunner01 (11)
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To: NormsRevenge

Hey Fisker: Your Karma ran over your Dogma, call PETA!!


22 posted on 08/20/2012 8:51:03 PM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

“Come on Baby, release my Chakra!!” or was that “Karma”


23 posted on 08/20/2012 8:55:04 PM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Secret Agent Man
...People driving them begged to buy them when they were told GM was going to demolish them.

Perhaps it was a liability or product support issue. Only a limited number were built; if GM sold them they would be obligated to warranty them, offer parts and service. If someone were injured due to a design defect, GM could be liable. Beechcraft bought all of their "Starship" aircraft back and shredded them for the same reason(s).

24 posted on 08/20/2012 9:18:15 PM PDT by ZOOKER ( Exploring the fine line between cynicism and outright depression)
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To: NormsRevenge
the origin of the fire appeared to be inside the engine compartment,

Really!!!

What's an electric car doing with an engine compartment?

25 posted on 08/20/2012 9:30:50 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Too bad they couldn’t have called it the Kindle.


26 posted on 08/21/2012 4:53:08 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: Right Wing Assault
Too bad they couldn’t have called it the Kindle.

Ha

27 posted on 08/21/2012 5:32:35 AM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (To the left the truth looks like Right-Wing extremism.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

“That isn’t why the EV-1’s were taken back. They were not recalled. The people who wnet into that program never actually owned them, they were loaned to them with the expectation GM would take them back. People driving them begged to buy them when they were told GM was going to demolish them.”

None of this is news to me...and why I referred to them as a ‘lease fleet’.

On to my hypothesis that GM crushed them all, before they caught fire...from wikipedia: “On March 2, 2000, GM issued a recall for 450 Gen I EV1s. The automaker had determined that a faulty charge port cable could eventually build up enough heat to catch on fire. Sixteen “thermal incidents” and at least one fire occurred as a result of the defect, destroying a car leased by Ron Brauer and Ruth Bygness as it was charging.”....seems to support my hypothesis, no matter what type of battery they had.

BTW, around a third of the EV-1’s did have nickel hydride batteries.


28 posted on 08/21/2012 6:03:20 AM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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