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In new TV ad, Akin apologizes for rape comment, again
cbsnews.com ^ | August 21, 2012 | Steve Chaggaris

Posted on 08/21/2012 4:30:14 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

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To: JediJones

Nothing like giving your opposition commercial material they otherwise would have to invent... now all idiot Clair has to do is to make a commercial with that clip in it, play it about three times, then say in her mommy voice, “I’m Clair McCaskill, I don’t see how anyone could approve this message”... I so wish Sarah Steelman had won... nicer on the eyes too.


41 posted on 08/21/2012 5:41:09 AM PDT by dps.inspect (rage against the Obama machine...)
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To: OKSooner

It’s not that I dislike Akin or am unsympathetic to him having mis-spoke. But the man Macaca-ed himself, no one did it to him. Dims get second and third chances. Pubs don’t.


42 posted on 08/21/2012 5:54:37 AM PDT by citizen (America is at an awkward stage...Too late to work within the system, too early to shoot the bastards)
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To: Tailgunner Joe; Travis McGee; jocon307; Eric in the Ozarks; txrefugee; scooby321; Biggirl; ...

Not that it is a conspiracy, but is there any way Axelrod would ask Akin to act differently in order to help the Dems more?

1. Say something that reinforces Obama’s “GOP War on Women”
2. Say something that paints the TEA party as batcrap crazy
3. Apologize for it, thus admitting that even you accept that it was batcrap crazy
4. Stay in to maximize coverage of it all and spread the association to everyone on the right for at least one news cycle
5. Threaten to stay in for several news cycles...maybe even all the way to the election to give all Democrat candidates a touchstone

This thing dovetails so perfectly into Axelrod’s “War on Women” nonsense that Akin is either a plant, or a complete numbskull for getting played this hard.


43 posted on 08/21/2012 5:58:01 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: JediJones
They’re all saying exactly what Akin’s supporters here have been saying, that he made a minor slip-up of one word

Which is not in the least bit accurate...replacing that word doesn't change what he said.

44 posted on 08/21/2012 5:58:41 AM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: beandog
Right on. First everyone was/is whining about Rommey not the same folks are hysterical about someone stating facts albeit somewhat awkwardly!

Maybe the libtards are right—all “conservatives are idiots (and cowards).

45 posted on 08/21/2012 6:13:50 AM PDT by texican01
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To: JediJones
He actually used the word "legitimate." Synonymns for that word include "real." I think he said precisely what he meant, i.e. that if a woman becomes pregnant it could not have been as a consequence of a "real" rape (substitute "forcible" if you must) because, if it had been real, her body would have shut down and no pregnancy would have occurred.

First, that concept is nonsense from a physical/medical perspective. What part of the process shuts down? Ovulation? In most cases of pregnancy by rape, ovulation has presumably already occurred at the time of the act. Insemination? How does a woman's body prevent motile sperm from locating and entering an egg? Implantation of the fertilized egg in the uterus? By what process?

Second, it is but a short step from his statement to a conclusion that pregnancy is proof that no "real" rape occurred and therefore no prosecution of the rapist should occur, i.e. she was asking for it. As the father of two twenty something daughters, it's hard to express how offensive that concept is to me.

His theory is ignorant from a medical perspective and dangerous from a prosecutorial perspective. It was not a gaffe or a slip. He should not be in the United States Senate. I do not live in Missouri. I live in a deep blue state and nevertheless vote in every primary and general election. I have voted a straight Republican ticket in every possible election since 1972 (when I could not bring myself to vote for either Nixon or McGovern). Were I resident of Missouri, I would not vote for Akin.

46 posted on 08/21/2012 6:14:05 AM PDT by p. henry
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To: Ann Archy

Is he a tea party guy? I thought Steelman was?


47 posted on 08/21/2012 6:20:07 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Biggirl

He helped to organize the Tea Party Caucus in Congress.


48 posted on 08/21/2012 6:24:26 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

Thanks for the info.


49 posted on 08/21/2012 6:30:04 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: jocon307

Apologizing never helps.


50 posted on 08/21/2012 6:32:15 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: p. henry
Mike Gallagher is defending Akin on his radio show. Saying Republicans should learn to defend their own. Once again, a Christian conservative who did not support RINO Romney in the primary is standing against the GOP elites.

http://www.wntp.com/

I think he said precisely what he meant, i.e. that if a woman becomes pregnant it could not have been as a consequence of a "real" rape (substitute "forcible" if you must) because, if it had been real, her body would have shut down and no pregnancy would have occurred.

Stop lying about what he said! He said NOTHING of the kind. He specifically and clearly said that a woman COULD get pregnant from being raped in his original comments. The controversy has nothing to do with what you're saying. In no way, shape, or form did he say or mean to say that a pregnancy proves whether a rape occurred or not. That is laughable and totally contradicted by his statements where he said a pregnancy CAN occur from rape, but is rare. What you're saying is nonsense you made up out of thin air. So now you expect us to throw him under the bus based on pure, made-up lies about him? Get a clue and stop being so irresponsible with your statements accusing someone falsely.

51 posted on 08/21/2012 6:34:27 AM PDT by JediJones (Too Hot for GOP TV: Newt Gingrich, Sarah Palin, Allen West and Donald Trump)
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To: p. henry

Simply Google rape and pregnancy and you can find plenty of Christian web sites saying the exact same thing he said about the likelihood of pregnancy from rape. There is room for legitimate discussion and debate about the medical facts on this issue. A knee-jerk denunciation of someone based on facts or opinions that you find “uncomfortable” whether or not they may be true is what liberals and the politically correct do, not conservatives.


52 posted on 08/21/2012 6:36:50 AM PDT by JediJones (Too Hot for GOP TV: Newt Gingrich, Sarah Palin, Allen West and Donald Trump)
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To: OKSooner
Your selfishness is about to cost us the (*) Senate.

Romney's selfishness in not releasing his tax returns is about to cost us the presidency. RESIGN NOW, RINO ROMNEY!

53 posted on 08/21/2012 6:38:48 AM PDT by JediJones (Too Hot for GOP TV: Newt Gingrich, Sarah Palin, Allen West and Donald Trump)
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To: dfwgator

Would not surprise me if Akin does step down when he sees that the money is not going to be there.


54 posted on 08/21/2012 6:43:26 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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55 posted on 08/21/2012 6:44:31 AM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: JediJones

Too late, will not happen. Plus who could take the top of the ticket?


56 posted on 08/21/2012 6:44:52 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
"And the idea that we should be parsing and qualifying and slicing what types of rape we're talking about . . . "

I think that depends on what the definition of 'is' is.

57 posted on 08/21/2012 6:45:08 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia (Be careful of believing something just because you want it to be true.)
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To: JediJones

You are correct as to his actual quote. However, my comments stand. From a medical and prosecutorial perspective there is no real distinction between “could not” and “really rare.”


58 posted on 08/21/2012 6:45:20 AM PDT by p. henry
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To: Tailgunner Joe

I think he ought to step down. If he doesn’t, he ought to run a short ad that simply asks,

“Does ANYONE believe that Sen McCaskill or her friend President Obama would be tougher on a rapist than I would? Does anyone in Missouri believe President Obama & Sen McCaskill would be tougher on criminals than I am? Get real!”


59 posted on 08/21/2012 6:46:06 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Liberalism: "Ex faslo quodlibet" - from falseness, anything follows)
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To: sam_paine
Just another page from the Bizarro Book of Missouri politics.
60 posted on 08/21/2012 6:47:51 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (I didn't post this. Someone else did.)
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