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In new TV ad, Akin apologizes for rape comment, again
cbsnews.com ^ | August 21, 2012 | Steve Chaggaris

Posted on 08/21/2012 4:30:14 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

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To: p. henry

Clinton gets a blow job in the white house...no problem, this
poor bastard make a comment...off with his head. Democrats never apologize they just move on to bigger and better things. When is this obvious double standard going to equalize?


61 posted on 08/21/2012 6:48:59 AM PDT by greyfox (If I were a Democrat I'd be pushing for the fairness doctrine too.)
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To: p. henry

Mike Gallagher is now calling out the “wimpy, gutless Republicans” who are not defending a guy who is willing to take a tough stand and fight for the unborn. He says he made a “bad mistake” in his choice of words but his message on the sanctity of life was absolutely correct.


62 posted on 08/21/2012 6:50:46 AM PDT by JediJones (Too Hot for GOP TV: Newt Gingrich, Sarah Palin, Allen West and Donald Trump)
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To: greyfox

“When is this obvious double standard going to equalize?”

Never.


63 posted on 08/21/2012 6:52:04 AM PDT by Private_Sector_Does_It_Better (I AM ANDREW BREITBART)
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To: JediJones
In no way, shape, or form did he say or mean to say that a pregnancy proves whether a rape occurred or not.

He didn't say it was 100% proof, no - but he still said it was evidence - which makes it no less damaging or offensive.

This is some pretty intense spin on your part to try to explain this away.

64 posted on 08/21/2012 6:52:42 AM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Republican Wildcat; Charles Henrickson
Oh dear God.

If it's really Akin who posted that, and at this point I have little reason to suspect that it isn't, this is even nuttier than any of us thought.

Why is it that so many of the uh, "nutty" people we meet profess to be under some sort of divine calling? It gets to the point that it becomes a challenge to those of us who choose to keep the faith.

I'd really like a good answer to this question if someone has one; I'm sure I'm not the first one who's asked it.

65 posted on 08/21/2012 6:52:42 AM PDT by OKSooner
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To: Biggirl
Too late, will not happen. Plus who could take the top of the ticket?

OK, then is it also too late for Akin to resign by that logic? Ryan could take the top of the ticket and do a 100% better job than Romney on everything. The GOP elites should say to Romney if he won't release his tax returns right now, then we don't want to take the chance that something bad in them comes out later, so we're cutting his funding off. We don't need to have the next Tim Geithner-like tax cheater dragging down our ticket.

66 posted on 08/21/2012 6:53:41 AM PDT by JediJones (Too Hot for GOP TV: Newt Gingrich, Sarah Palin, Allen West and Donald Trump)
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To: p. henry
“In most cases of pregnancy by rape, ovulation has presumably already occurred at the time of the act”

Actually sperm can live for a number of days in the woman. Pregnancy can occur as long as there are sperm remaining at the time of ovulation. In fact there is a theory that male (Y chromosome) and female(X chromosome) sperm have a different survival factor and thus sex selection is affected by the time of ovulation vs the time of intercourse. Don't remember which is supposed to live longer.

I have no idea if there is data but it is not hard to imagine that a violent encounter would change the chemistry of the female reproductive environment and this could easily affect the start of a pregnancy. The fight or flight hormone adrenaline would be an obvious candidate.

This could be something that is selected for through evolution. A man away (hunting or at war) for an extended period of time returns to find his woman pregnant. He is likely to abandon her/kill the child. This would lead to a selective advantage for a woman who could avoid pregnancy from being raped. For the record I have NO data on this. Some questions just can not be funded for research. Can you imagine a proposal to recruit 100 women to be raped for a study. I don't think so. No one would argue that a pregnancy precludes rape if the evidence points to rape. Neither is a pregnancy evidence of rape without other evidence.

67 posted on 08/21/2012 6:54:48 AM PDT by muskah
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To: JediJones

I agree with Mr. Gallagher. Wimpy and gutless are good descriptions for the Republican party and a lot of Freepers lately.


68 posted on 08/21/2012 6:55:34 AM PDT by beandog (All Aboard the Choo Choo Train to Crazy Town)
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To: JediJones

The good thing is that Ryan will be able to keep Romney’s feet to the fire.


69 posted on 08/21/2012 6:56:13 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: OKSooner
If it's really Akin who posted that, and at this point I have little reason to suspect that it isn't, this is even nuttier than any of us thought.

Uh, why? You mean everyone accused of rape is truly guilty of it? Better get those Duke boys back in jail then.

70 posted on 08/21/2012 6:56:13 AM PDT by JediJones (Too Hot for GOP TV: Newt Gingrich, Sarah Palin, Allen West and Donald Trump)
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To: JediJones
"Mike Gallagher is now calling out the “wimpy, gutless Republicans” who are not defending a guy who is willing to take a tough stand and fight for the unborn."

And when Claire McCaskill gets the deciding vote on the next piece of abortion legislation in the US Senate, how many lives of the unborn will Akin's "tough stand" save?

71 posted on 08/21/2012 6:59:55 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: beandog

And Mike Gallagher just said that maybe the reason the GOP elite are so adamant about this is because they think candidates like Akin and O’Donnell are “too pro-life” for them. Exact same thing I said yesterday. This isn’t about a gaffe, this is about throwing a Christian conservative under the bus because they are truly pro-life even in cases of rape. If both me and Gallagher are coming to the same conclusion independently, that certainly gives me encouragement that I’m right.


72 posted on 08/21/2012 7:00:05 AM PDT by JediJones (Too Hot for GOP TV: Newt Gingrich, Sarah Palin, Allen West and Donald Trump)
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To: Biggirl

Sarah Steelman is a RINO plain and simple!


73 posted on 08/21/2012 7:01:30 AM PDT by elephant
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To: beandog
I agree with Mr. Gallagher. Wimpy and gutless are good descriptions for the Republican party and a lot of Freepers lately.

There is an almost direct parallel between those who supported Romney in the primary and those who are against Akin now, and vice versa. Just more proof this is about Christian conservatism and who is truly anti-abortion, not about a reaction to a gaffe.

74 posted on 08/21/2012 7:03:59 AM PDT by JediJones (Too Hot for GOP TV: Newt Gingrich, Sarah Palin, Allen West and Donald Trump)
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To: soycd

How do you know all that call in wanting Akin to stay are Democrats? Have you been on the phone polling them?


75 posted on 08/21/2012 7:05:13 AM PDT by elephant
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To: elephant

But did she not get the endorsement from Sarah Palin? Ms. Palin would not endorse any RINOS.


76 posted on 08/21/2012 7:07:10 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: greyfox

Never as long as we have Republicans with no spine and no balls. Republicans fold like cheap suits under pressue.


77 posted on 08/21/2012 7:11:32 AM PDT by elephant
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To: sam_paine
1. Say something that reinforces Obama’s “GOP War on Women” 2. Say something that paints the TEA party as batcrap crazy 3. Apologize for it, thus admitting that even you accept that it was batcrap crazy 4. Stay in to maximize coverage of it all and spread the association to everyone on the right for at least one news cycle 5. Threaten to stay in for several news cycles...maybe even all the way to the election to give all Democrat candidates a touchstone

Wasn't there a situation in Florida where some liberal signed up as a Republican and tried to run as a Tea Party candidate? Democrats are using old Communist tactics (scary for lots of reasons). It wouldn't surprise me if he was a plant... has anyone looked into that possibility?

78 posted on 08/21/2012 7:11:39 AM PDT by GOPJ (Politics is war without bloodshed, and war is politics with bloodshed. - Mao Tse Tung. We're at war)
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To: Joe 6-pack
And when Claire McCaskill gets the deciding vote on the next piece of abortion legislation in the US Senate, how many lives of the unborn will Akin's "tough stand" save?

When Barack Obama gets to expand socialized medicine and grant amnesty to all illegal alines, how many conservative positions will Romney's "tough stand" on not releasing his taxes save?

You have your opinion on who's going to be bad for our electoral chances, and I have mine. My opinion is that Romney is the huge drag on our party this year that will lose this election on a massive scale, not Akin.

79 posted on 08/21/2012 7:14:15 AM PDT by JediJones (Too Hot for GOP TV: Newt Gingrich, Sarah Palin, Allen West and Donald Trump)
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To: Biggirl

She did get endorsed by Palin but she is a RINO and had dealings with some Unions in MO and not for the better. She does not play well with the Republicans in the sandbox.


80 posted on 08/21/2012 7:15:48 AM PDT by elephant
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