Skip to comments.‘Machine Gun’ Kelly: buyback takes 509 firearms off streets
Posted on 08/21/2012 6:08:16 AM PDT by ZULU
A powerful Calico 9mm with a 50-round magazine was among the 509 guns taken off the streets at a Queens gun buyback and laid out yesterday at Police Headquarters.
Police Commissioner Ray Kelly, looking like a modern-day Eliot Ness in a sharp pinstriped suit and French cuffs, handled some of the more powerful firearms while showing off the deadly cache, which he said cost the city about $85,000.
We think its money well spent, Kelly said, as he surveyed the haul, which included an AK-47 and a TEC-9.
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Why don't you have a CAR buy-back Kelly? Then you could prevent all those drunk drivers from killing people by taking cars off the streets.
That's because you're an idiot.
No worries Comrade, our glorious Soviet Council is working on that too!
So all the dangerous Honda Civics, Chevy Astro's, and Peterbilt big rigs will be off the road!
Then we will drive the Safe and State Approved "Peoples Car!"
A Volkswagen If you will.
To someone with an agenda for government control via wealth transfer it is a work of genius.
That's $85,000 of hard, yet freely earned, money getting budgeted to the government to flush down the toilet.
Today $85,000, tomorrow $850,000.
That’s about $170 each.
Pity the owners had no idea the real value of the items, most of which would go for 2-5 times that easy.
I shudder to think of the truly valuable curios & relics which were sold for a pittance and destroyed.
I always thought these programs were stupid too. Granny turning in a sweet Sako or Weatherby for $50? bet she’d be pissed if she knew what she really gave up.
On the other hand I have a few junkers I could turn in to fund my SP101 account.
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The bastards turn them into coat hangers.
My over all thought on this is that if they were stupid enough to sell these guns back through such a program they are to stupid handle the responsibility of owning a gun.
You question begs another question.
If the Leftist car buyback was designed to promote the sale of new and better cars, then why wouldn’t a gun buyback have the same effect? Of course, the question can also be reversed.
Uh, good point.
On the other hand, how many of these are working functional guns and how many are pieces of junk some jerk is just turning in for a buck?
How many belong to naive old ladies who have no idea of their value and received them as part of their husband’s estate and so are cheated out of their real value?
How about the fact that programs like this waste taxpayer dollars in that guns used by street thugs are obviously never turned int?
How about the fact that anti-gunners use phony programs like this to demonize an object, instead of concentrating on the real source of gun crime - criminals?
They got a Calico jammamatic and one AK, and one Tec 9 and they call the 9mm handguns powerful? Sure.
I was being totally facetious about a car buy-back. The point is, the problem is not the object but the individual behind that object. If the cops want to stop crime, they should apprehend criminals, not waste time and tax-payer dollars apprehending objects which are easily replaced from another source and in themselves incapable of doing anything.
But of course, WE know the REAL reason for these buy-backs and they have nothing to do with stopping crime and everything to do with demonizing the Second Amendment and hyping the Kulturkampf the leftist NAZIs have undertaken against traditional America.
No telling where they pieced together this charade. NYC is sinking into a BS abyss where a daily dose of bizarre politically-focused horse dookie is fed to the slavering media to make Bloomers like he’s really doing something constructive. Buy-back, me arse!
Ban Turn in guns and only criminals will have guns.
Yes, I know you were being facetious, but your post made me think of the lack of consistency in logic concerning the effect of different buy backs.
I think its a perfect question to ask your favorite Lefty. Why does one type of buyback encourage replacement and the other discourage replacement?
How many of those rare and valuable guns will be confiscated by the politicians and the police.?
How many of those guns were handed over by criminals? & How many were surrendered by law abiding citizens?
This amounts to theft by misrepresentation by the government!
“My over all thought on this is that if they were stupid enough to sell these guns back through such a program they are to stupid handle the responsibility of owning a gun.”
Mere ignorance of a gun’s value is not stupidity.
Taking advantage of said ignorance is arguably an immoral act. If the financial loss is knowingly inflicted upon a poor person who needed the money, such a taking may correctly dubbed an ‘evil’ act as it is done with full knowledge of the cheating of the ignorant.
Nathaniel Grigsby correctly called the Democrats the Party of Treason for a reason. Knowingly defrauding a poor and ignorant person in order to restrict that poor and/or ignorant person of their First Amendment rights ia, arguably, treason.
Doing so under color of law is, IIRC, arguably a Federal felony.
But, since when was
He spent $85,000 taken from others at the point of a gun. To buy back guns. To make us safer.
If guns in the hands of the law-abiding are problematic because of possible theft then shouldnt the same rationale apply to the police?
Theyre guns are out in the open all the time inviting theft or worse, so maybe they would be safer without them.
I was thinking the same...the most powerful they cited was the AK-47 ok not bad but I was thinking more along the lines of a .50 cal auto machine gun. Now we’re talking!
Also did they really take them off the streets? I bet 99% of them were buried in the back of Granny’s closet and only saw the light of day when Gramps had it out.
I stopped reading after “powerful calico 9mm”.
New york is hopeless
...and five’ll get you ten it’s an AKS-47 (semi-auto)...NOT an AK-47 (select fire)...Stevie666
I would love to get a Calico in 9x23.
Gun buybacks are a good way for a thug to unload a stolen weapon or one used in a crime, no questions asked.
“How many of those guns were handed over by criminals?”
Rhetorical question, right?
We all know the correct answer is “ZERO”.
I defy Kelly to document the turnover of a SINGLE weapon by a known or suspected criminal.
It is. It was a Tory Sewer before the Revolution and Washington and most of his army thought the place was not worth defending and things have gone downhill steadly from there.
More than any other city in America, New York City’s “culture” is an extension of the degenerate western European Socialist thinking that reduced that part of the world to political irrelevance on the world stage. Its at the heart of the Kulturkampf against western civilization in America.
Its insidous tentacles have ensnared my own state (New Jersey) as well as Vermont and parts of southern Florida.
In the story, the majority of the handguns turned in were revolvers. So the thugs are turning in their obsolete 5 to 6 shot revolvers so they can buy modern up-to 14 shot semi-autos. Or turn in broken or cheaply made guns and take the money and buy new, high quality ones. Yup, sounds like a plan to me.
I thought you could not use the words "powerful" and "9 mm" in the same sentence?......
When my Grandmother's husband (not Grandpa) passed away, she was going to clear out his liquor cabinet. "Just junk it all", she said.
Dad and I got in the car and drove most of a night to rescue it. It was 1000's of dollars in (mostly) single-malt, and high-end blended scotch. Easily enough to stock a bar, and it kept us in high-tension booze for years.
The real prize was most of a case of turn-of-the century Napoleon Brandy. I literally fished it out of the trash. She was throwing it away "Because it was Old".
Don’t worry, the calibre of people that line up to cash in guns for chump-change aren’t smart enough to have acquired weapons of any value.
It's money well spent from the same perspective that $85,000 worth of band-aids for the Alzheimer's ward would be money well spent.
It doesn't even begin to touch the root of the problem.
Can anybody put a FReeper up plus a job? I’m really getting tired of NYC and wouldn’t care if the whole place is plunged into the dark ages should some idiot in charge of the electrical grid pull a Homer Simpson and overload it.
She probably thinks a .22 could reach orbit.
I sent her a short, simple e-mail that read:
“Do you really think criminals brought those in?”
The area known as Brighton Beach, which is pretty much on the same point on the map as Coney Island, is mostly immigrants from Russia and the former Soviet satellite states. These are large Trump buildings (large for the area at least) full of people with all sorts of dialects with heavy accents. But they’re not only in that area.
There’s all sorts of housing projects around here with a huge majority of those people.
I like a .45. Enoguh to do the job but not enough to kill somebody in the next County. Besides, I have no need to shoot engine blocks.
A .58 500 grain minie ball backed by 60 grains of FF is even better, but that’s another story.
And wipe off her chin.
And wipe off her chin. There appears to be no dividing line between the government and the media any more.
I've been fed up with those people for years. It isn't any coinicidence that hard left anti-gun pro-tax government worshipers keep getting re-elected by large margins there. The vast majority of the NY electorate thinks that way too.
It doesn’t even begin to touch the root of the problem.
Au contriare, people likely to sell guns to a “buy-back” have higher odds of having inherited something valuable, the prior owner (spouse, parent) having paid a great price for it (money or personal risk), then having died the ignorant recipient have no idea what it is or what to do with it and “just want it out of the house”.
An ugly old Sten Gun brought home from WWII (and duly registered) doesn’t look like much, but (thanks to US Code 922(o)) is irreplaceable and could easily fetch a five-digit price. Engraved/inlaid work can also have high price and significant artistic value. These things do happen.
Even most of the mundane crap turned in have pawn value exceeding the “no questions asked” price of a “buy-back”. Then there’s the point that the true crap turned in in is worth nowhere near as much (rusted-beyond-repair frames, missing major parts, etc.) as taxpayer money wasted thereon - but others have addressed that.
Why people kill each other. It is a moral problem. Consult Genesis for the case history of Cain and his brother, Abel.
Can’t have that nasty 2 cylinder internal combustion engine. Not green you know. Maybe a 2 cylinder Stirling external combustion, burning methane from cows?
Particularly the NYPD. In the recent (justified) shooting of a perp outside the Empire State Building, two cops fired 16 rounds, hit the perp and dropped him like a poleaxed steer, but also wounded 9 bystanders, 3 of them hit by actual bullets, the rest by fragments and possibly shrapnel from objects hit by bullets. But the cops were only EIGHT FEET, less than 3 yards, from the bad buy.
In the video, one cop appears not to even be aiming at the bad guy, but somewhere else entirely. Even Bloomie seemed to confirm that at a press conference last week, saying the police may have shot AT some individuals. That's what it looked like to me as well.