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‘Machine Gun’ Kelly: buyback takes 509 firearms off streets
New York Post ^ | August 21, 2012 | Jessica Simeone

Posted on 08/21/2012 6:08:16 AM PDT by ZULU

A powerful Calico 9mm — with a 50-round magazine — was among the 509 guns taken off the streets at a Queens gun buyback and laid out yesterday at Police Headquarters.

Police Commissioner Ray Kelly, looking like a modern-day Eliot Ness in a sharp pinstriped suit and French cuffs, handled some of the more powerful firearms while showing off the deadly cache, which he said cost the city about $85,000.

“We think it’s money well spent,” Kelly said, as he surveyed the haul, which included an AK-47 and a TEC-9.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: banglist; secondamendment
A real genius Kelly. Bet all those guns were working models submitted by street thugs eager to collect the bounty (Sarcasm).

Why don't you have a CAR buy-back Kelly? Then you could prevent all those drunk drivers from killing people by taking cars off the streets.

1 posted on 08/21/2012 6:08:25 AM PDT by ZULU
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To: ZULU
“We think it’s money well spent,” Kelly said

That's because you're an idiot.

2 posted on 08/21/2012 6:12:20 AM PDT by mykroar (October race riots bring November martial law. Voting postponed for your safety.)
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To: ZULU
Why don't you have a CAR buy-back Kelly? Then you could prevent all those drunk drivers from killing people by taking cars off the streets.

No worries Comrade, our glorious Soviet Council is working on that too!

So all the dangerous Honda Civics, Chevy Astro's, and Peterbilt big rigs will be off the road!

Then we will drive the Safe and State Approved "Peoples Car!"

A Volkswagen If you will.

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44347000/jpg/_44347595_tata_car_416.jpg

3 posted on 08/21/2012 6:16:44 AM PDT by KC_Lion (Normalcy results in the creation of life, Sodomy results in AIDS)
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To: ZULU
A real genius Kelly.

To someone with an agenda for government control via wealth transfer it is a work of genius.

That's $85,000 of hard, yet freely earned, money getting budgeted to the government to flush down the toilet.

Today $85,000, tomorrow $850,000.

4 posted on 08/21/2012 6:19:22 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: ZULU

That’s about $170 each.
Pity the owners had no idea the real value of the items, most of which would go for 2-5 times that easy.
I shudder to think of the truly valuable curios & relics which were sold for a pittance and destroyed.


5 posted on 08/21/2012 6:21:06 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com)
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To: mykroar

I always thought these programs were stupid too. Granny turning in a sweet Sako or Weatherby for $50? bet she’d be pissed if she knew what she really gave up.
On the other hand I have a few junkers I could turn in to fund my SP101 account.


6 posted on 08/21/2012 6:22:12 AM PDT by enraged
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I think 'reporter' Jessica Simeone had to run out and buy a new set of kneepads after writing this slavering puff-piece.

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7 posted on 08/21/2012 6:23:53 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: enraged

The bastards turn them into coat hangers.


8 posted on 08/21/2012 6:24:43 AM PDT by ZULU (See: http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=D9vQt6IXXaM&hd)
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To: ZULU

My over all thought on this is that if they were stupid enough to sell these guns back through such a program they are to stupid handle the responsibility of owning a gun.


9 posted on 08/21/2012 6:29:40 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: ZULU

You question begs another question.

If the Leftist car buyback was designed to promote the sale of new and better cars, then why wouldn’t a gun buyback have the same effect? Of course, the question can also be reversed.


10 posted on 08/21/2012 6:31:24 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: Kartographer

Uh, good point.

On the other hand, how many of these are working functional guns and how many are pieces of junk some jerk is just turning in for a buck?

How many belong to naive old ladies who have no idea of their value and received them as part of their husband’s estate and so are cheated out of their real value?

How about the fact that programs like this waste taxpayer dollars in that guns used by street thugs are obviously never turned int?

How about the fact that anti-gunners use phony programs like this to demonize an object, instead of concentrating on the real source of gun crime - criminals?


11 posted on 08/21/2012 6:41:43 AM PDT by ZULU (See: http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=D9vQt6IXXaM&hd)
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To: ZULU

They got a Calico jammamatic and one AK, and one Tec 9 and they call the 9mm handguns powerful? Sure.


12 posted on 08/21/2012 6:44:54 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Legalize Freedom!!)
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To: SampleMan

????

I was being totally facetious about a car buy-back. The point is, the problem is not the object but the individual behind that object. If the cops want to stop crime, they should apprehend criminals, not waste time and tax-payer dollars apprehending objects which are easily replaced from another source and in themselves incapable of doing anything.

But of course, WE know the REAL reason for these buy-backs and they have nothing to do with stopping crime and everything to do with demonizing the Second Amendment and hyping the Kulturkampf the leftist NAZIs have undertaken against traditional America.


13 posted on 08/21/2012 6:46:18 AM PDT by ZULU (See: http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=D9vQt6IXXaM&hd)
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To: ZULU

No telling where they pieced together this charade. NYC is sinking into a BS abyss where a daily dose of bizarre politically-focused horse dookie is fed to the slavering media to make Bloomers like he’s really doing something constructive. Buy-back, me arse!


14 posted on 08/21/2012 6:50:34 AM PDT by arrdon (Never underestimate the stupidity of the American voter.)
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To: enraged
Just wait until the thugs wake up to these easy pickings. They'll see granny turning in her protection and follow her home to do what they wish with her and her home.

Ban Turn in guns and only criminals will have guns.

15 posted on 08/21/2012 6:54:43 AM PDT by bgill
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To: ZULU

Yes, I know you were being facetious, but your post made me think of the lack of consistency in logic concerning the effect of different buy backs.

I think its a perfect question to ask your favorite Lefty. Why does one type of buyback encourage replacement and the other discourage replacement?


16 posted on 08/21/2012 6:58:45 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: ZULU

How many of those rare and valuable guns will be confiscated by the politicians and the police.?

How many of those guns were handed over by criminals? & How many were surrendered by law abiding citizens?

This amounts to theft by misrepresentation by the government!


17 posted on 08/21/2012 7:00:39 AM PDT by chainsaw ("Two ways to conquer and enslave a nation. One is by the sword. The other is by debt.")
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To: Kartographer

“My over all thought on this is that if they were stupid enough to sell these guns back through such a program they are to stupid handle the responsibility of owning a gun.”

Mere ignorance of a gun’s value is not stupidity.

Taking advantage of said ignorance is arguably an immoral act. If the financial loss is knowingly inflicted upon a poor person who needed the money, such a taking may correctly dubbed an ‘evil’ act as it is done with full knowledge of the cheating of the ignorant.

Nathaniel Grigsby correctly called the Democrats the Party of Treason for a reason. Knowingly defrauding a poor and ignorant person in order to restrict that poor and/or ignorant person of their First Amendment rights ia, arguably, treason.

Doing so under color of law is, IIRC, arguably a Federal felony.

But, since when was


18 posted on 08/21/2012 7:05:31 AM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: ZULU

He spent $85,000 taken from others at the point of a gun. To buy back guns. To make us safer.

Irony.


19 posted on 08/21/2012 7:07:48 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Liberals, at their core, are aggressive & dangerous to everyone around them,)
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To: ZULU
If they want to get firearms off the street perhaps they’re first focus should be the police department – beginning with Bloomberg’s security detail.

If guns in the hands of the law-abiding are problematic because of possible theft – then shouldn’t the same rationale apply to the police?

They’re guns are out in the open all the time – inviting theft or worse, so maybe they would be safer without them.

20 posted on 08/21/2012 7:08:34 AM PDT by BerserkPatriot (Why is the Democratic National Committee waging a War on liberty?)
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To: arrdon
WPIX the local news station was behind this buy back. They were running commercials about let's fight back against the evil. They actually believe the nonsense that this buyback will stop all the shootings. Yet they never mention who does all this violence. They will not say that gangs like the Latin Kings and others are behind all this. Doesn't fit there agenda.
21 posted on 08/21/2012 7:20:02 AM PDT by JimC214
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To: muir_redwoods

I was thinking the same...the most powerful they cited was the AK-47 ok not bad but I was thinking more along the lines of a .50 cal auto machine gun. Now we’re talking!

Also did they really take them off the streets? I bet 99% of them were buried in the back of Granny’s closet and only saw the light of day when Gramps had it out.


22 posted on 08/21/2012 7:28:50 AM PDT by bjorn14 (Woe to those who call good evil and evil good. Isaiah 5:20)
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To: ZULU

I stopped reading after “powerful calico 9mm”.
New york is hopeless


23 posted on 08/21/2012 7:30:06 AM PDT by NYleatherneck (It ain't a World War until the French surrender.)
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To: ZULU

...and five’ll get you ten it’s an AKS-47 (semi-auto)...NOT an AK-47 (select fire)...Stevie666


24 posted on 08/21/2012 7:33:49 AM PDT by szweig (HYHEY!! (Have You Had Enough Yet))
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To: ZULU

I would love to get a Calico in 9x23.


25 posted on 08/21/2012 7:39:52 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: ZULU

Gun buybacks are a good way for a thug to unload a stolen weapon or one used in a crime, no questions asked.


26 posted on 08/21/2012 7:46:40 AM PDT by jaydubya2
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To: chainsaw

“How many of those guns were handed over by criminals?”

Rhetorical question, right?

We all know the correct answer is “ZERO”.

I defy Kelly to document the turnover of a SINGLE weapon by a known or suspected criminal.


27 posted on 08/21/2012 7:54:57 AM PDT by Walrus (Restoring America starts today! Let's roll!)
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To: NYleatherneck

It is. It was a Tory Sewer before the Revolution and Washington and most of his army thought the place was not worth defending and things have gone downhill steadly from there.

More than any other city in America, New York City’s “culture” is an extension of the degenerate western European Socialist thinking that reduced that part of the world to political irrelevance on the world stage. Its at the heart of the Kulturkampf against western civilization in America.

Its insidous tentacles have ensnared my own state (New Jersey) as well as Vermont and parts of southern Florida.


28 posted on 08/21/2012 8:04:38 AM PDT by ZULU (See: http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=D9vQt6IXXaM&hd)
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To: GladesGuru
I stand by my statement someone so easily hoodwinked or so ready and anxious to give up their right and means of protection so easily they have at least in my mind demonstrated they have not the capacity required to be a responsible gun owner.
29 posted on 08/21/2012 8:15:13 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: ZULU

In the story, the majority of the handguns turned in were revolvers. So the thugs are turning in their obsolete 5 to 6 shot revolvers so they can buy modern up-to 14 shot semi-autos. Or turn in broken or cheaply made guns and take the money and buy new, high quality ones. Yup, sounds like a plan to me.


30 posted on 08/21/2012 8:46:31 AM PDT by A. Patriot (Re-electing Obama is like the Titanic backing up to hit the iceberg again.)
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To: ZULU
"A powerful Calico 9mm"

I thought you could not use the words "powerful" and "9 mm" in the same sentence?......

31 posted on 08/21/2012 9:07:10 AM PDT by Minutemen ("It's a Religion of Peace")
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To: ZULU
How many belong to naive old ladies who have no idea of their value

When my Grandmother's husband (not Grandpa) passed away, she was going to clear out his liquor cabinet. "Just junk it all", she said.

Dad and I got in the car and drove most of a night to rescue it. It was 1000's of dollars in (mostly) single-malt, and high-end blended scotch. Easily enough to stock a bar, and it kept us in high-tension booze for years.

The real prize was most of a case of turn-of-the century Napoleon Brandy. I literally fished it out of the trash. She was throwing it away "Because it was Old".

32 posted on 08/21/2012 9:09:52 AM PDT by wbill
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To: ctdonath2

Don’t worry, the calibre of people that line up to cash in guns for chump-change aren’t smart enough to have acquired weapons of any value.


33 posted on 08/21/2012 9:10:33 AM PDT by Minutemen ("It's a Religion of Peace")
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To: ZULU
“We think it’s money well spent,” Kelly said, ...

It's money well spent from the same perspective that $85,000 worth of band-aids for the Alzheimer's ward would be money well spent.

It doesn't even begin to touch the root of the problem.

34 posted on 08/21/2012 9:58:44 AM PDT by RobinOfKingston (The instinct toward liberalism is located in the part of the brain called the rectal lobe.)
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To: ZULU

Can anybody put a FReeper up plus a job? I’m really getting tired of NYC and wouldn’t care if the whole place is plunged into the dark ages should some idiot in charge of the electrical grid pull a Homer Simpson and overload it.


35 posted on 08/21/2012 11:10:00 AM PDT by wastedyears (The First Law of Heavy Metal: Not all metal is satanic.)
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To: Minutemen

She probably thinks a .22 could reach orbit.

I sent her a short, simple e-mail that read:

“Do you really think criminals brought those in?”


36 posted on 08/21/2012 11:24:50 AM PDT by wastedyears (The First Law of Heavy Metal: Not all metal is satanic.)
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To: ZULU

The area known as Brighton Beach, which is pretty much on the same point on the map as Coney Island, is mostly immigrants from Russia and the former Soviet satellite states. These are large Trump buildings (large for the area at least) full of people with all sorts of dialects with heavy accents. But they’re not only in that area.

There’s all sorts of housing projects around here with a huge majority of those people.


37 posted on 08/21/2012 11:31:33 AM PDT by wastedyears (The First Law of Heavy Metal: Not all metal is satanic.)
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To: Minutemen

I like a .45. Enoguh to do the job but not enough to kill somebody in the next County. Besides, I have no need to shoot engine blocks.

A .58 500 grain minie ball backed by 60 grains of FF is even better, but that’s another story.


38 posted on 08/21/2012 11:56:58 AM PDT by ZULU (See: http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=D9vQt6IXXaM&hd)
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To: ZULU
A powerful Calico 9mm...

[facepalm]

39 posted on 08/21/2012 1:12:00 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Joe Brower
Jessica Simeone had to run out and buy a new set of kneepads after writing this slavering puff-piece

And wipe off her chin.

40 posted on 08/22/2012 4:06:40 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: Joe Brower
Jessica Simeone had to run out and buy a new set of kneepads after writing this slavering puff-piece

And wipe off her chin. There appears to be no dividing line between the government and the media any more.

41 posted on 08/22/2012 4:08:04 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: wastedyears
I’m really getting tired of NYC

I've been fed up with those people for years. It isn't any coinicidence that hard left anti-gun pro-tax government worshipers keep getting re-elected by large margins there. The vast majority of the NY electorate thinks that way too.

42 posted on 08/22/2012 4:30:59 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: RobinOfKingston

It doesn’t even begin to touch the root of the problem.

What problem?


43 posted on 08/22/2012 4:41:57 AM PDT by chainsaw ("Two ways to conquer and enslave a nation. One is by the sword. The other is by debt.")
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To: Minutemen

Au contriare, people likely to sell guns to a “buy-back” have higher odds of having inherited something valuable, the prior owner (spouse, parent) having paid a great price for it (money or personal risk), then having died the ignorant recipient have no idea what it is or what to do with it and “just want it out of the house”.

An ugly old Sten Gun brought home from WWII (and duly registered) doesn’t look like much, but (thanks to US Code 922(o)) is irreplaceable and could easily fetch a five-digit price. Engraved/inlaid work can also have high price and significant artistic value. These things do happen.

Even most of the mundane crap turned in have pawn value exceeding the “no questions asked” price of a “buy-back”. Then there’s the point that the true crap turned in in is worth nowhere near as much (rusted-beyond-repair frames, missing major parts, etc.) as taxpayer money wasted thereon - but others have addressed that.


44 posted on 08/22/2012 6:04:54 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com)
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To: chainsaw
What problem?

Why people kill each other. It is a moral problem. Consult Genesis for the case history of Cain and his brother, Abel.

45 posted on 08/22/2012 9:28:32 AM PDT by RobinOfKingston (The instinct toward liberalism is located in the part of the brain called the rectal lobe.)
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To: KC_Lion

Can’t have that nasty 2 cylinder internal combustion engine. Not green you know. Maybe a 2 cylinder Stirling external combustion, burning methane from cows?


46 posted on 08/31/2012 4:52:23 PM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: BerserkPatriot
If they want to get firearms off the street perhaps they’re first focus should be the police department

Particularly the NYPD. In the recent (justified) shooting of a perp outside the Empire State Building, two cops fired 16 rounds, hit the perp and dropped him like a poleaxed steer, but also wounded 9 bystanders, 3 of them hit by actual bullets, the rest by fragments and possibly shrapnel from objects hit by bullets. But the cops were only EIGHT FEET, less than 3 yards, from the bad buy.

In the video, one cop appears not to even be aiming at the bad guy, but somewhere else entirely. Even Bloomie seemed to confirm that at a press conference last week, saying the police may have shot AT some individuals. That's what it looked like to me as well.

47 posted on 08/31/2012 5:23:56 PM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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