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Who Isnít Calling for Akinís Withdrawal? Claire McCaskill & Planned Parenthood.
NRO Campaign Spot ^ | 08/21/2012 | Jim Geraghty

Posted on 08/21/2012 7:07:48 AM PDT by nhwingut

Hey, if Todd Akin’s remarks are so shameful (and they are) and his ignorance of topics he would seek to legislate is an embarrassment (and it is)… what are we to make of the recent comments from his rival, Sen. Claire McCaskill?

McCaskill issued supportive remarks about Akin on Monday, saying she and Akin “disagree on some things, but he is sincere.”

“While I disagree with what he said, he has now in the last few hours really apologized for what he said. I think what is startling to me is that these party bigwigs are coming down on him and saying that he needs to kick sand in the face of the Republican primary voters,” she said.

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1 posted on 08/21/2012 7:07:55 AM PDT by nhwingut
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To: nhwingut

McCaskill: Akin is sincere and has really apologized. Leave him alone (so I can get re-elected).

LOL!


2 posted on 08/21/2012 7:09:26 AM PDT by nhwingut (Sarah Palin 12... No One Else)
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To: nhwingut

They want to keep him there to beat him.

Woman candidate would narrow the gender gap. State is a prime pick up seat.


3 posted on 08/21/2012 7:09:53 AM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: nhwingut

Oh I don’t know, there are some hardheads here that agree with McCaskill and Planned Parenthood that Akin should stay in.


4 posted on 08/21/2012 7:10:30 AM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: nhwingut

McCackle is offering radio stations a news clip of her saying, “The GOP primary voters have spoken and Akin is the candidate.”

Need anyone guess why ?


5 posted on 08/21/2012 7:10:36 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (I didn't post this. Someone else did.)
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To: Longbow1969
Oh I don’t know, there are some hardheads here that agree with McCaskill and Planned Parenthood that Akin should stay in.

I'm pretty stunned at some who still support this idiot and are willing to go down with the ship for an intellectually bankrupt back bencher.
6 posted on 08/21/2012 7:14:49 AM PDT by nhwingut (Sarah Palin 12... No One Else)
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To: nhwingut

She’s also the one who wants to strike down the Constitutional requirements for POTUS. That tells all anyone needs to know about her.


7 posted on 08/21/2012 7:15:16 AM PDT by bgill
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To: nhwingut

I still smell Reid and Pelosi


8 posted on 08/21/2012 7:16:03 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: nhwingut
Make lemonade out of lemons. Once the new candidate is chosen the GOP should have a commercial, which first shows Ted Kennedy's Oldsmobile in the Chappaquidick drink and then hin attending Mary Jo's funeral with that fake neck brace, then show Barney Frank's face with the caption that a male prostitution ring was run out of his apartment, then Bill Clinton hugging Monica, and then show Joe Biden with his chains comment.

Then the narration, did Claire McKaskill call for these people from her own party to resign? The answer is probably no. We at the GOP do the right thing when one of ours messes up, what about Claire McKaskill's democrats.

9 posted on 08/21/2012 7:20:07 AM PDT by DallasBiff
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To: freekitty

“...smell Reid and Pelosi.”

Pervasive S-T-E-N-C-H.


10 posted on 08/21/2012 7:21:51 AM PDT by carriage_hill
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To: nhwingut

And they aren’t calling for my congressman’s withdrawl either. Clearly he’s one of them. /s


11 posted on 08/21/2012 7:21:51 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: nhwingut

The best posting of the week.
This is an organized plan to keep Harry Reid running blockade for Obama.
It has nothing to do with right to life, abortion or rape.

If Atkins can’t figure this out, he us unqualified for the Senate.


12 posted on 08/21/2012 7:24:28 AM PDT by Zathras
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To: freekitty
I still smell Reid and Pelosi

They told Akin what to say?

13 posted on 08/21/2012 7:25:45 AM PDT by Delhi Rebels (There was a row in Silver Street - the regiments was out.)
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To: nhwingut
“This is more evidence of when policy makers are literally legislating about women’s health and they don’t have the most basic understanding particularly of women’s reproductive care. This is perfect evidence of that enormous danger.” --Cecile Richards
Akin surely has "the most basic understanding" of unborn life v. unborn death. Cecile Richards, however, brings ENORMOUS DANGER to women and children through her abortion "services." What a horrible eternity in hell awaits her, if she doesn't convert.
14 posted on 08/21/2012 7:25:45 AM PDT by mlizzy (And if we accept that a mother can kill even her own child, how can we tell others not to kill? --MT)
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To: nhwingut

I can give you a laundry list of politicians who have made stupid statements, including the current occupant of the WH. This has less to do with substance than it does with gaining a political advantage. In the politically correct world we now live in, any statement that even hints at disparaging women, gays, race, and ethnicity invokes a torrent of phony outrage and overblown rhetoric.

And Reps are held to a much different standard than those in the Evil Party. Can anyone imagine a Rep Senator who was a former Klan wizard? Or be allowed to stay in office after talking about “white ni***ers” on national television? Or a senator who left a girl to die in a car he was driving during a drunken foray in the MA night. He waited a long time to report the incident, more concerned about preserving his political career than saving the girl’s life. Or in the case of a race baiter like Al Sharpton whose escapades included inciting mob violence that killed two people. Or a sitting President who was a sexual predator that involved sex with interns in the WH, raping a woman, and exposing himself to an employee in AK while governor. None of the above have been banished from the public scene. Quite the contrary, they have been lionized and elevated in both position and power.

Akins committed no crime or indiscretion. He made an inartful statement and apologized immediately for it. The fact that he now faces political exile says more about the society we live in than Akin the man who by all appearances has led an exemplary life. This is just a lynching in the court of (manufactured) public opinion.

Intellectually bankrupt? You mean his 97.24 ACU rating?


15 posted on 08/21/2012 7:27:30 AM PDT by kabar
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To: freekitty

“I still smell Reid and Pelosi

I missed it. Were they waterboarding him until he would say something incredibly moronic? Or was this self immolation...

My grandma taught me to never blame somebody else for your own stupidity. There is nobody to blame here except Akin


16 posted on 08/21/2012 7:32:00 AM PDT by Breto (The Establishment party is killing our country)
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To: kabar
Intellectually bankrupt? You mean his 97.24 ACU rating?

Big difference between pressing a button (like a monkey) and intellectually articulating conservative ideology and principles.
17 posted on 08/21/2012 7:32:48 AM PDT by nhwingut (Sarah Palin 12... No One Else)
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To: kabar

He has lost 10 million dollars from the moneychangers in Washington. He might be a great conservative, but if him staying costs the seat that would have decided Obamacare, history will not remember he was a great conservative.


18 posted on 08/21/2012 7:33:32 AM PDT by Sybeck1
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To: nhwingut
McCaskill’s claim that Akin is sincere is evidence that he is deliberately trying to throw the election. Akin is a 6 term Congressman, and cannot be assumed to be stupid or inexperienced. Given that the Democrats stole trillions from the US taxpayers and that huge sums have been squirreled away in slush funds, how much is it worth to them to keep control of the Senate?
19 posted on 08/21/2012 7:35:34 AM PDT by Ragnar54 (Obama replaced Osama as America's worst enemy)
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To: Ragnar54
McCaskill’s claim that Akin is sincere is evidence that he is deliberately trying to throw the election.

Nope.

It is further evidence that McCaskill has the opponent that she wanted and is now concerned that she may have to face someone from the GOP side that is more competitive than Akin. It was obvious even during the primary season that Akin was the candidate she wanted to face in November.

20 posted on 08/21/2012 7:41:32 AM PDT by InterceptPoint (.)
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To: nhwingut
Big difference between pressing a button (like a monkey) and intellectually articulating conservative ideology and principles.

So now Akin is a monkey? How much do you know about the man and his record? What does this make Paul Ryan?

"Some liberals tried to tie other Republicans to Akin's comments, noting that Romney's running mate, Rep. Paul Ryan, co-sponsored an abortion-related bill with Akin that would have limited federal funding for abortions to victims of forcible rape," rather than just rape. The FBI's definition of rape is known as "forcible rape," and it is used to distinguish between statutory rape and other kinds of rape."

Akin was born in New York City, the son of Nancy Perry (née Bigelow) and Rev. Paul Bigelow Akin. He moved to St. Louis and attended John Burroughs School. After graduating, he attended the Worcester Polytechnic Institute in Worcester, Massachusetts where he earned a degree in management engineering, and in 1984 he earned a Master of Divinity degree at Covenant Theological Seminary in St. Louis. During college he was member of Phi Gamma Delta fraternity.

From 1972 to 1980, Akin served in the Missouri National Guard. After his military career, he took up work at IBM as an engineer and later became a manager at Laclede Steel Company.

Akin was elected to the Missouri House of Representatives in 1988, representing Town and Country and much of West County. He won re-election in 1990 (59%), 1992 (100%), 1994 (70%), 1996 (67%), and 1998 (66%). 12 years in the state house, Akin voted for carrying concealed weapons, voted against the parks and soils sales tax, voted against the 1993 tax increase and education spending increase. Akin sponsored legislation to prohibit casino companies from contributing to Missouri state lawmakers. In 1995, he fought Democrat Governor Mel Carnahan on state-funding for abortion, which Akin opposed.

In 2000, Republican U.S. Representative Jim Talent vacated the seat in his unsuccessful run for Governor of Missouri. Akin won a closely contested Republican primary election to replace Talent, defeating former St. Louis County Executive Gene McNary and State Senator Franc Flotron. He defeated Democratic State Senator Ted House in the general election, winning 55 percent of the vote. He never faced another contest even that close, and was reelected five times.

In 2010, Akin won re-election with 67.9% of the vote. He had been challenged for the seat by Democratic nominee Arthur Lieber, Libertarian nominee Steve Mosbacher, and write-in candidate Patrick M. Cannon.

This monkey won the Rep nomination for the Senate in Missouri. I guess many of his constituents don't share your assessment. He has had a long and successful political career. Yet, because of one verbal gaffe, which he apologized for immediately, he must be banished to political exile.

Loyalty begets loyalty. The public piling on by many in the GOP including some of his congressional colleagues like Allen West, Scott Brown, and Senator Johnson from Wisconsin is terrible. Even George "Macacca" Allen jumped into the fray to denounce him. And it may be counterproductive. This public crucifixation of an honorable man by his own party sends a terrible message to the party and Akin's supporters in Missouri who see an election nullified. Now it is up for the GOP political establishment to pick someone--not the people. The end result could very well be a loss regardless of who else is selected.

21 posted on 08/21/2012 7:46:56 AM PDT by kabar
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To: nhwingut

Game, set, match.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/post/why-todd-akins-win-gives-democrats-hope-in-missouri/2012/08/08/6e0246b8-e16c-11e1-ae7f-d2a13e249eb2_blog.html

Akin has to resign. It’s BS as of course there’s a double-standard for Dems but that’s just the way it is in this case.


22 posted on 08/21/2012 7:47:48 AM PDT by ctpsb (Thanks.)
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To: Sybeck1
There is no assurance whatsoever that his leaving the race will mean victory for the Reps in November. And he could conceivably win. The GOP Establishment threw him under the bus immediately including cutting off all funding for his campaign. Doesn't a sitting Congressman who has committed no crime or indiscretion deserve better than being publicly humiliated by his own party? Can anyone imagine the Dems doing that to one of their own?

Sorry, I am not joining this public lynching of a good and honorable man.

23 posted on 08/21/2012 7:52:24 AM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar

There’s no such thing as loyalty around here. It’s mob mentality. If we are not willing to support our own candidates then we deserve to lose.

I don’t know why, but I’m shocked to learn that conservatives are more willing to toss people aside, that liberals are. No wonder our reps don’t listen to us, I wouldn’t trust us either.

I have lost a lot of respect for a great number of Freepers in the last few days.


24 posted on 08/21/2012 7:56:34 AM PDT by beandog (All Aboard the Choo Choo Train to Crazy Town)
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To: nhwingut
I'm pretty stunned at some who still support this idiot and are willing to go down with the ship for an intellectually bankrupt back bencher.

Some candidates and their supporters become blinded and start believing God will save the day for them if they just pray a whole bunch. They lose all perspective and can't see political realities for what they are.

Akin has voted the right way most of the time in the past, but this Senate seat is bigger than he is. We need to take this seat from the Democrats. Period. That means putting up the most conservative candidate that CAN win. Fair or not, Akin can't win so he has to go.

25 posted on 08/21/2012 7:57:43 AM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: kabar
Doesn't a sitting Congressman who has committed no crime or indiscretion

No indiscretion? He spewed some quackery about a women's body magically shutting down to prevent pregnancy when raped. Saying something that stupid is just so absolutely, mindbogglingly dumb it really helps explains why McCaskill and the Democrats spent 1-2 million in the GOP primary to help get him as their opponent. The guy is simply an idiot. He seems like a decent person who votes the right way most of the time, but he's still an idiot for uttering something like this. Akin is done. He is not going to win this seat now, and he has to go. I really don't know what is so hard to understand about this.

26 posted on 08/21/2012 8:06:46 AM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: Longbow1969
That means putting up the most conservative candidate that CAN win. Fair or not, Akin can't win so he has to go.

Pure Rovian logic. Karl was against Rand Paul, Marco Rubio, Sharron Angel, and Christine O'Donnell. Their crime was defeating in the primaries the Establishment's pick. Now in Missouri, if Akin withdraws, the Establishment will pick the candidate, not the people. Akin was conservative enough to win the primary. What good is it to elect a RINO to the Senate? We have enough there already.

And there is no guarantee that whomever is selected will win. Many Akin supporters may not like being disenfranchised. 217,000 (36%) voted for Akin in the primary.

27 posted on 08/21/2012 8:07:00 AM PDT by kabar
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To: nhwingut

Oh I don’t know, there are some hardheads here that agree with McCaskill and Planned Parenthood that Akin should stay in.

Uh huh, and let’s just see what happens after 5:00PM today when this egotistical idiot refuses to bow out. My guess is the Demonic Party will begin a full court press to hang this idiot’s words around every Republican, just as they did in 2008 with the Foley incident. Get out NOW, you ignorant brain dead moron!


28 posted on 08/21/2012 8:07:41 AM PDT by Common Sense 101 (Hey libs... If your theories fly in the face of reality, it's not reality that's wrong.)
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To: nhwingut

Oh I don’t know, there are some hardheads here that agree with McCaskill and Planned Parenthood that Akin should stay in.

Uh huh, and let’s just see what happens after 5:00PM today when this egotistical idiot refuses to bow out. My guess is the Demonic Party will begin a full court press to hang this idiot’s words around every Republican, just as they did in 2008 with the Foley incident. Get out NOW, you ignorant brain dead moron!


29 posted on 08/21/2012 8:07:49 AM PDT by Common Sense 101 (Hey libs... If your theories fly in the face of reality, it's not reality that's wrong.)
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To: kabar
Todd Akin is a fine man. In addition to the positives you've listed, he gets and 'B' from the National Taxpayers Union. And he merits and 'A' from Gun Owners of America. Always strong on support for and defense of, The Second Amendment.

But he really and truly stepped in it. I just don't see how he emerges from this. He had less than $500K left after the Primary, held but two weeks ago today. Meanwhile, Ma McCaskill, had approx. $4 million and this prior to her mass mailings and requests for $ to the Hollywood crowd. Unions. Liberals in general. And RNC has pulled $5 million intended for Akin.

All he had to do was ride it out. He messed up, big time.One can only wonder if he stays in, what mistake will he make next?

The powers to be are making the call as I type. Steelman? Brunner? Sure to reignite the food fight from the run up to the Primary. Neither play well together. Yet they were the ones who invested time and $. In Brunner's case, nearly $9 million of his own $$.

We should know by 5 today, if not sooner. Saddest thing is the only winner regardless of the decision made is McCaskill. She flew away untouched, just like the quail in the Cheney-Whittington shooting incident.

30 posted on 08/21/2012 8:08:41 AM PDT by donozark (Follow the cigar smoke, find the fat man there.)
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To: Longbow1969
"Akin has voted the right way most of the time in the past, but this Senate seat is bigger than he is. We need to take this seat from the Democrats. Period. That means putting up the most conservative candidate that CAN win. Fair or not, Akin can't win so he has to go."

Wise words. Akin is toast. The only question is if he is willing to burn the house down as well. His comments are beyond retrieval and the argument based upon dueling medical experts will just cost the GOP even more votes, particularly female votes.

31 posted on 08/21/2012 8:09:01 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: Longbow1969
No indiscretion? He spewed some quackery about a women's body magically shutting down to prevent pregnancy when raped. Saying something that stupid is just so absolutely, mindbogglingly dumb it really helps explains why McCaskill and the Democrats spent 1-2 million in the GOP primary to help get him as their opponent. The guy is simply an idiot

Here are the people who endorsed Akin in the primary.

Mike Huckabee, former Governor of Arkansas and 2008 presidential candidate

Congressman Jeb Hensarling, Vice Chair of Committee on Financial Services (R-TX)

Congressman Jim Jordan, Chair of Republican Study Committee (R-OH)

Congressman Pete Sessions (R-TX)

Congressman Steve King (R-IA)

Congresswoman Michele Bachmann, 2012 presidential candidate (R-MN)

State Representative Kurt Bahr

Phyllis Schlafly, President of Eagle Forum

He seems like a decent person who votes the right way most of the time, but he's still an idiot for uttering something like this. Akin is done. He is not going to win this seat now, and he has to go. I really don't know what is so hard to understand about this.

I guess one verbal gaffe is the limit for a conservative Rep. No apology accepted especially for someone who believes that abortion is wrong even in the case of rape and incest. Here is what he said:

What I said was ill-conceived, and it was wrong," Akin said on former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee's radio show Monday. "I really just want to apologize to those that I've hurt."

Akin's apology came as President Obama suggested the Republican's remarks illustrated the broad differences between Democrats and Republicans on issues like health care and reproductive rights.

"Rape is rape," Mr. Obama told reporters at the daily White House briefing Monday. "And the idea that we should be parsing and qualifying and slicing what types of rape we're talking about doesn't make sense to the American people and certainly doesn't make sense to me."

Mr. Obama added that Akin's remarks underscore "why we shouldn't have a bunch of politicians, a majority of whom are men, making health care decisions on behalf of women."

The president acknowledged that his GOP rival Mitt Romney and other Republicans have distanced themselves from Akin's statements. However, he said, "The underlying notion that we should be making decisions on behalf of women for their health care decisions, or qualifying 'forcible rape' versus 'non-forcible rape' -- those are broader issues....between me and the other party."

The controversy started after Akin, a six-term Missouri conservative now running against Democratic Sen. Claire McCaskill, was asked in a local interview on Sunday whether he would support abortions for women who have been raped.

"It seems to me first of all, from what I understand from doctors, that's really rare," Akin said in the interview. "If it's a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down," Akin said of a rape victim's chances of becoming pregnant.

Some liberals tried to tie other Republicans to Akin's comments, noting that Romney's running mate, Rep. Paul Ryan, co-sponsored an abortion-related bill with Akin that would have limited federal funding for abortions to victims of forcible rape," rather than just rape. The FBI's definition of rape is known as "forcible rape," and it is used to distinguish between statutory rape and other kinds of rape.

Huckabee asked Akin whether he was talking about "forcible rape" when he used the term "legitimate rape."

"I was talking about forcible rape, and it was absolutely the wrong word," Akin said.

Akin said he understands that women can become pregnant from rape. "I didn't mean to imply that wasn't the case," he said. "That does happen."

While Akin acknowledged he made a "very, very serious error," he added that he's not dropping out of the Senate race.

"I don't know that I'm the only person in public office who suffered from foot-in-mouth disease," he said. "I feel just as strongly as ever that my background and ability will be a big asset in replacing Claire McCaskill... Just because someone makes a mistake doesn't make them useless."

32 posted on 08/21/2012 8:18:00 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Common Sense 101

They will hang these words around every Rep’s neck regardless of he stays in or not.


33 posted on 08/21/2012 8:19:40 AM PDT by kabar
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To: donozark
All he had to do was ride it out. He messed up, big time.One can only wonder if he stays in, what mistake will he make next?

He is no Biden. Akin has had a long and successful career in politics. He is a winner. Is one misstatement followed by an immediate apology the criterion for forcing someone to withdraw? Is this what it has come down to in the GOP? He committed no crime or indiscretion. I find this public castigation by the GOP to be disgusting and it could very well be counterproductive in Nov regardless of who the GOP wants to run. Akin's supporters, 217,000 of them, may not flock to the new nominee.

34 posted on 08/21/2012 8:25:20 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Yes the GOP voters and all the dems who crossed over in the primary and voted for Akin. Don’t hear her say much about this.


35 posted on 08/21/2012 8:28:12 AM PDT by edhawk
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To: kabar

Amen kabar amen

Vapid posters galore preening and GOPE whores all

Nevertheless i suspect Akin drops out
Until we stop allowing our foes to control us and the debate of culture they will continue to win

Only Mike Berry on talk has shown balls on this one

Levin...a wee bit

Our conservative leaders and talkies are more wobbly than we are


36 posted on 08/21/2012 8:29:38 AM PDT by wardaddy (this white hair don't cover up my redneck......)
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To: Delhi Rebels
They told Akin what to say?

No, he did that all by himself. They convinced him he should stay in the race. He stepped on a landmine, and it's to his shame he doesn't know it.

37 posted on 08/21/2012 8:30:45 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: wardaddy
I am NOT a GOPE whore. I live in Missouri and I want Claire to be sent back to running her nursing home empire. That is Akin’s job right now. NOT running off at the mouth, giving these liberal snakes fodder to scare off those wind testing mushy Independents. Akin cannot win with only the ‘conservative’ votes. He had this election in the ‘bag’ until he carelessly uttered foolish words that set this firestorm in action.

I live in this state and Claire is perfect symbolic sow with the superior evolved sense of where the biggest freshest mud hole is and Akin just gave her a big one to wallow in until November.

We ‘had’ the independents leaning to the ‘right’, but they are now all spooked because they cannot handle the heat.

38 posted on 08/21/2012 8:38:38 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: kabar
They will hang these words around every Rep’s neck regardless of he stays in or not.

Sadly, that is probably true. Can't unring that bell. But his continuing presence will make that charge a lot harder to refute because it will appear we have no standards and are circling the wagons.

39 posted on 08/21/2012 8:41:10 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: Cyber Liberty
They convinced him he should stay in the race.

I think Akin did that all by himself as well. Why should the Democrats get in his way when he insists of going down in flames and taking the senate seat with him?

40 posted on 08/21/2012 8:43:31 AM PDT by Delhi Rebels (There was a row in Silver Street - the regiments was out.)
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To: ctpsb

There is no way to defend this. I could probably forgive the “legitimate” statement as it would’ve been a poor choice of words but considering all of Biden’s gaffes...

But to then further conjecture about the body shutting down, etc. HOW DOES ANY EXPERIENCED POLITICIAN NOT KNOW HOW THIS WOULD PLAY??!! Seriously knowing the Dem’s planned war on women BS and on and on you just can’t give any ammo.

And for those here who still think he should stay it’s not just the actual words but this shows a lack of judgement that he is not ready for the Senate stage. And you know there’ll be more if he stays in.. he has shown a history of it. I again reference my post above.... McCaskill and the Dems spend 1.5 MILLION of their own money to bring in Akin. PPP is putting out bogus polls with R+9 polls showing Akin leading to keep him in. THE DEMS WANT THIS!!

Sometimes the establishment can be right for the wrong reason. No one is more anti-RINO than me but sometimes the right thing to do is the right thing to do and it’s not wrong because the those we usually disagree with happen to agree with us this time.


41 posted on 08/21/2012 8:53:58 AM PDT by ctpsb (Thanks.)
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To: kabar

You forgot to mention some of his strongest supporters, Senator Claire McCaskill and the Missouri Democratic Party. They dumped between 1 and 2 million into the race supporting Akin, hoping he’d be their opponent.

Also, how many of those people that you listed who endorsed Akin in the primary STILL want him to remain the race. It isn’t as if Akin won the primary and people were trying to drive him out right away. Whether people liked him or not they accepted he was our candidate, albeit probably the weakest possible one, till he jammed his feet in his mouth and said something so dumb that he now has no chance to win the race.


42 posted on 08/21/2012 8:57:07 AM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: nhwingut

Of course, old Claire is grateful to Akin for throwing her a life preserver. She will win, thanks to his big, dumb mouth.


43 posted on 08/21/2012 8:57:26 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: kabar
Some number of the 217K that voted for Akin in the Primary were Democrats. The vast majority of course were conservative Republicans. No way they will ever vote for Ma. They may, unfortunately not vote for the Republican nominee. But most will come to the final realization, they MUST get Ma the hell out of Washington!

I was a Steelman voter/$upporter. But clearly planned on voting for the winner on Aug.7. And I will still vote for Akin come Nov. Most will, simply because Republicans (true ones) totally detest Ma McCaskill.

If she gets back in? Say hello to higher taxes, gun bans, and of course Obi-care.

Not to pound on Akin, but I watched his attempt at handling this thing. He seemed disjointed. Confused. He reminds me of a boxer who just took a punch from Mike Tyson. Of course some recovered from that experience. Others did not. Can we risk it? We all better hope what comes out of today's Pow Wow is the right decision...

44 posted on 08/21/2012 9:24:34 AM PDT by donozark (Old Indian saying:Follow the cigar smoke, find the fat man there.)
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To: Longbow1969
You forgot to mention some of his strongest supporters, Senator Claire McCaskill and the Missouri Democratic Party. They dumped between 1 and 2 million into the race supporting Akin, hoping he’d be their opponent.

Yes, they beleve, as most Dems do, that the most conservative opponent is the easiest to beat. They welcomed going against Reagan using the same rationale.

Also, how many of those people that you listed who endorsed Akin in the primary STILL want him to remain the race. It isn’t as if Akin won the primary and people were trying to drive him out right away. Whether people liked him or not they accepted he was our candidate, albeit probably the weakest possible one, till he jammed his feet in his mouth and said something so dumb that he now has no chance to win the race.

If Akin was the weakest, how did he win the primary? I have no idea if the same people who endorsed him, still support him. I suspect they do and if they don't, I haven't read any public statements disavowing him.

You are completely buying into the MSM and Dem spin. Akin makes the statement on Sunday and apologizes several times since then including today. You draw the conclusion that Akin can't win. It is a self-fulfilling prophesy when so-called conservatives jump on the MSM bandwagon.

Contrast that with the head of Chick fil A who stood his ground and garnered public support. Akin shouldn't be made into a pariah for what he said and later corrected. Regardless of how one feels about his election chances, you (GOP) don't handle it this way. These public pronouncements by Reps are a disgrace. Make no mistake about it, the GOP Establishment saw this as the pretext for getting Akin out of the race. They always wanted someone else rather than this "radical right wing conservative nut job." Karl Rove wanted Castle for the same reason.

45 posted on 08/21/2012 10:25:52 AM PDT by kabar
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To: donozark
Some number of the 217K that voted for Akin in the Primary were Democrats. The vast majority of course were conservative Republicans. No way they will ever vote for Ma. They may, unfortunately not vote for the Republican nominee. But most will come to the final realization, they MUST get Ma the hell out of Washington!

Re the Democrats voting for him: How do you know that? This is all conspiracy nonsense. The Democrats had their own primary races, some of them high profile. If you force out Akin and a small group of GOP establishment pols decide who the nominee will be nullifying the primary results, there will be a reaction and it won't help the GOP.

46 posted on 08/21/2012 10:31:18 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Cyber Liberty
But his continuing presence will make that charge a lot harder to refute because it will appear we have no standards and are circling the wagons.

Why does that only apply to Reps? The Dems just apologize and move on. Each time we cave into the Dem/MSM cabal, the more it encourages them to do the same thing again and again. Maybe we should advise Mitt to drop out because he refuses to divulge more than two years of tax returns. Bill Kristol and George Will say he should and will be forced to reveal more. Ryan co-sponsored a bill with Akin on abortion funding, limiting it to just forcible rape. Perhaps, Ryan should withdraw given his association with Akin.

Where does this crap end? Trent Lott was forced out his leadership position because of remarks he made at Strom Thurmond's 100 birthday party. Bob Livingston was forced to resign because of a marital affair. In the meantime, Barney Frank can have a gay prostitution ring operating from his basement. Bill Clinton remains in the WH and refuses to resign even after being impeached. In fact, there was a huge pity party at the WH attended by the Dem congressmen. Clinton had his law license revoked. No problem, he will be one of the star speakers at the Dem Convention.

47 posted on 08/21/2012 10:43:47 AM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar
Why does that only apply to Reps?

Because Reps claim to have standards. Dems don't. It makes it a lot easier for Dems, but I'd rather have something to live up to. Do you think it would be wise to just say "Aw screw it! We're not going to insist on decent behavior from our elected officials!" How much tactical advantage would that purchase?

Funny thing you went on to say:

Perhaps, Ryan should withdraw given his association with Akin.

There will be more demands for that, not less, now that it appears Akin is taking the selfish route. Ironic. You then listed a few more examples of GOP that have been run out on a rail because of what they did/said. I thought those guys tarnished the brand as well. And the Dems you included on your list just prove that there are differences in character between members of the two parties.

48 posted on 08/21/2012 10:55:58 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: Truth29
The only question is if he is willing to burn the house down as well.

The answer to that becomes more clear with every story posted about his plans to stay in the race. The ad buys, for one thing.

49 posted on 08/21/2012 11:00:32 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: kabar
Talk (privately) to a BBT driver and see what he says. One from rural MO of course.

Initially many denied Ma spent so much on "pro-Akin" ads. Akin's former campaign mgr. (Van Eaton) is a $ donor to Ma's campaign.

This is Missouri. The home of never-closing polling places. In Dem areas. The home of beer purchasing for those who register and vote Dem (Jo Ann Emerson's Dist.) The home of dead Teamster Presidents. The home of a hospital for dying union leaders. List goes on and on.

The big shots in Republican Party have just now called on Akin to step down. Not saying its right. Just saying it is.

I'm not dusting off my STEELMAN signs. Yet....

50 posted on 08/21/2012 11:14:24 AM PDT by donozark (Old Indian saying:Follow the cigar smoke, find the fat man there.)
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