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For some reason, the city of Detroit still employs a horseshoer
MSNBC ^ | August 21, 2012 | Unkown

Posted on 08/21/2012 7:21:36 AM PDT by Past Your Eyes

Here's a riddle for you: What do you call a horseshoer that doesn't shoe any horses? An employee of the Detroit Water and Sewerage Department. No, you're not supposed to laugh, but the perpetually cash-strapped city somehow still employs a horseshoer, even though the department does not own horses, nor does the former employee of the Police Department work with any of the city's four-legged equines. The horseshoer's position was revealed as part of an independent report that concluded that the DWSD could "trim more than 80% of its workforce," a suggestion that union leaders say isn't possible. In case you were wondering, the horseshoer's annual salary for doing nothing is $29,245. Maybe that's why horseshoes are lucky.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: detroit; governmentunions; governmentworkers; horseshoer; union; waste
But the man can't possibly be let go.
1 posted on 08/21/2012 7:21:43 AM PDT by Past Your Eyes
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To: Past Your Eyes
My bet is he doesn't even have to show up.
2 posted on 08/21/2012 7:23:25 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: Past Your Eyes

Even if they had a few horses it would be more cost effective to contract with a private farrier. I know one who has clients in several counties who carries all he needs in a trailer.


3 posted on 08/21/2012 7:27:33 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Past Your Eyes

I WONDER WHO HAS THE ‘BUGGY WHIP CONTRACT’?..........


4 posted on 08/21/2012 7:29:25 AM PDT by Red Badger (Anyone who thinks wisdom comes with age is either too young or too stupid to know the difference....)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Yeah. I would do what the emergency school manager did with school employees and make them come to his office and pick up their paychecks in person. More than 200 employees didn’t even exist.


5 posted on 08/21/2012 7:30:29 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Past Your Eyes

He’s one of the last four employed people in Detroit ... if they let him go, the employment rate will drop by a quarter.

SnakeDoc


6 posted on 08/21/2012 7:31:04 AM PDT by SnakeDoctor ("I've shot people I like more for less." -- Raylan Givens, Justified)
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To: Red Badger

I WONDER WHO HAS THE ‘BUGGY WHIP CONTRACT’?..........

I hear it is Nancy Pelosi’s husband;-)


7 posted on 08/21/2012 7:31:22 AM PDT by Bitsy
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To: Past Your Eyes

Get him some horses and a load of horseshoes and put him to work. This is a classic.


8 posted on 08/21/2012 7:36:51 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: cripplecreek

” Yeah. I would do what the emergency school manager did with school employees and make them come to his office and pick up their paychecks in person. More than 200 employees didn’t even exist.”

Sure they do....I cash all 200 of them every 2 weeks.


9 posted on 08/21/2012 7:37:45 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: Past Your Eyes

What they need is a couple of zoo keepers.


10 posted on 08/21/2012 7:38:19 AM PDT by THE_RAIDER
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To: Past Your Eyes
They may no longer have any horses but they still have plenty of horses arses.


11 posted on 08/21/2012 7:40:09 AM PDT by Iron Munro ("In any compromise between good and evil, it is only evil that can profit." - Ayn Rand)
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To: Past Your Eyes

According to the original source, the man is actually a welder for the Water Department - that is his main job. There is featherbedding here - he is collecting a paycheck for a second job that doesn’t require any additional work.


12 posted on 08/21/2012 7:42:31 AM PDT by JerseyanExile
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To: Iron Munro
Yep. And they produce an ample supply of biscuits for the rest of us to clean up.
13 posted on 08/21/2012 7:44:45 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Past Your Eyes

The Police Department in Detroit has a Mounted Unit. There are horses.


14 posted on 08/21/2012 8:02:11 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Romney scares me. Obama is the freaking nightmare that is so bad you are afraid to go back to sleep)
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To: Past Your Eyes; cripplecreek; Vigilanteman; Bitsy; Red Badger; E. Pluribus Unum; SnakeDoctor; ...

The US Army still has a farrier, aka horseshoer. He is a member of the 3rd Infantry, known as the “Old Guard” at Ft. Myer, VA. He is responsible for shoeing the horses that the ceremonial burial platoon has and uses on a regular basis for burials in Arlington National Cemetery.


15 posted on 08/21/2012 8:05:02 AM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: GreyFriar

Thanks for the information. I forgot about that —


16 posted on 08/21/2012 8:08:08 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Past Your Eyes

I guess ‘farrier’ is not in their lexicon.


17 posted on 08/21/2012 8:10:15 AM PDT by novascotianative
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To: JerseyanExile
The article I read yesterday said something like "...and other related tasks...".

It was not made clear that it was a secondary compensation job. Make that "job". I figured the welding was the main task of the position now.

And the union pres/rep said "there's no room for cuts".

In any case, while this may one of the "jobs" singled out for ridicule, at a yearly compensation package of < $60,00, I seriously doubt that it's the lowest hanging fruit that is going to make the biggest difference in getting reality back in focus.

Not that it isn't a start...

18 posted on 08/21/2012 8:12:40 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: Past Your Eyes
A horsehoer? LOL
I thought they were called a farrier.
19 posted on 08/21/2012 8:14:26 AM PDT by ▀udda▀udd (>> F U B O << "What the hell kind of country is this if I can only hate a man if he's white?")
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To: Past Your Eyes

Some believe that asses should be shod. Maybe Detroit has more than its share of them.


20 posted on 08/21/2012 8:15:13 AM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: Past Your Eyes

My local precinct captain in Chicago had an official job of “ bridge tender” for a bridge that had its motors removed in 1941 as part of the war effort.


21 posted on 08/21/2012 8:15:51 AM PDT by Kozak (The means of defence against foreign danger, have been always the instruments of tyranny at home JM)
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To: netmilsmom

He dosnt work for the Police dept. He works for the Detroit Water and Sewerage Department. From the article:
“...even though the department does not own horses, nor does the former employee of the Police Department work with any of the city’s four-legged equines”.


22 posted on 08/21/2012 8:20:42 AM PDT by Gettin Betta
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To: Vigilanteman

“And they produce an ample supply of biscuits for the rest of us to clean up.”

“Biscuits?” I thought they were called “Road Apples.”


23 posted on 08/21/2012 8:21:50 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Gettin Betta
“...even though the department does not own horses, nor does the former employee of the Police Department work with any of the city’s four-legged equines”.

No doubt, as opposed to the three or five legged varieties.

24 posted on 08/21/2012 8:26:06 AM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: Calvin Locke
I was talking about this, which was the original source for the MCC article. http://www.freep.com/article/20120809/NEWS05/308090260/Detroit-water-department-cut-81-workers-under-new-proposal

All job descriptions would be rewritten to be much broader than current ones to allow more flexibility. Brian Hurding, vice president of EMA, the firm that did the study, said the department had 257 job classifications, including "horseshoer." "We didn't find any horses," Hurding said. "That's the strangest job classification I've ever seen." He noted later that the person in the job also was classified as a welder, which was his main job. Under the reorganization plan, the number of job classifications would fall to 31.

25 posted on 08/21/2012 8:37:54 AM PDT by JerseyanExile
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To: Past Your Eyes

Don’t know if it’s still the case, but the railway worker’s union contract required trains to have a “fireman” on the crew long after they had all converted to diesel-electric locomotives.


26 posted on 08/21/2012 8:39:58 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Calvin Locke

I heard this morning that they have not had horses since 67.
If he got the job in 66 and was 18 years old, that would make him 63 years old. I would bet the original dude retired long ago and they actually hired a new guy for the position even when they no longer had horses.


27 posted on 08/21/2012 8:40:31 AM PDT by Gadsden1st
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To: Past Your Eyes; TigersEye; Fred Nerks

horseshoer??????????????

There is no such thing. The proper word in the English language is “farrier”

http://www.oldscollege.ca/programs/Farrier/index.htm

Every town that has horses in it needs one.


28 posted on 08/21/2012 8:47:21 AM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascism article: http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: GreyFriar
FWIW, even back in the 1960’s, the U.S. Army had a cavalry unit in Kansas. My father was a veterinarian in the reserves, even though he was Navy, from World War II. I don't remember which town in Kansas (I was a little kid) but he had to drive there on a regular basis to check the horses.

If I'm not mistaken, the same base trained some of our special forces in Afghanistan. So our military still uses horses for tasks other than just ceremonial funerals. There was a story on this unit who went into Afghanistan and the guys were absolutely awesome with their horsemanship.

29 posted on 08/21/2012 8:56:22 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Candor7

With 0bama messing around with the auto companies (and the economy in general) every town is going to need several of them.


30 posted on 08/21/2012 8:59:20 AM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: ├čudda├čudd

A horsehoer? LOL
I thought they were called a farrier.

Actually the correct term would be Equine Podiatrist.


31 posted on 08/21/2012 9:04:43 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Past Your Eyes

Someone should be horsewhipped over this.


32 posted on 08/21/2012 9:11:36 AM PDT by History Repeats (Drink plenty of TEA, but avoid the Koolaid.)
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To: ├čudda├čudd
Maybe he's a ho-shoer.
Can't be havin' dem ho's runnin' round in dey bare feets, ya know. Make da place look bad.
33 posted on 08/21/2012 9:23:25 AM PDT by uglybiker (nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-BATMAN!)
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To: Vigilanteman

The Soviet Army used cavalry on the Eastern Front during world war two, and on occasion had great success in wreaking havoc behind enemy lines when conditions and fuel shortages made motorised transport difficult.


34 posted on 08/21/2012 9:23:33 AM PDT by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: Past Your Eyes

If there was real journalism, the media would be all over this with in your face interviews of the said “horse shoer”, his boss and the mayor until this mess was resolved. It would be interesting to check in which union this guy has membership and whether “horse shoers” are allowed to join. My bet is a year from now the “horse shoer” will still be getting his check for doing nothing and Detroit will be going bankrupt.


35 posted on 08/21/2012 9:32:02 AM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: Candor7

I think we all know that. If not before, there’s no excuse now. I didn’t write the headline so take up your grievance with MessNBC. It’s beside the point anyway.
Believe me, I knew what a farrier was long before a bunch of you jumped on it.


36 posted on 08/21/2012 9:35:06 AM PDT by Past Your Eyes (What if there is no tomorrow? There wasn't one today.)
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To: Vigilanteman

Culver Military Academy, Black Horse Troop 1974. I was a 14 year old kid who didn’t know which end of the horse to feed and which end made the poop when I got there. Eight weeks later I was on the drill team, running steeplechase and riding bareback. Mostly taught by 16 year old kids. 150 high school kids, whose “adult supervision” consisted of three college students doing their summer jobs, and a former Army officer who was about 30 years old.


37 posted on 08/21/2012 10:00:47 AM PDT by henkster (We're the slaves of the phony leaders...)
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To: Past Your Eyes

Believe me, I knew what a farrier was long before a bunch of you jumped on it.>>>>>>>>>

Thats OK, “horseshoer” is just fine, LOL.

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I once knew a female horse shoer,
and PAST YOUR EYES loved to _______________.

Once she said farrier,
he continued to harrie her
And now he’s boffing a brewer.

( Fill in the blank bucko, LOL.)

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38 posted on 08/21/2012 11:55:18 AM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascism article: http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: TigersEye

With 0bama messing around with the auto companies (and the economy in general) every town is going to need several of them.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Thats a real cogent point, and one which is so true as we watch the gas prices going up over 5 bucks and higher, and consequentially Americans lose their freedom of movement and freedom of assembly. Divide and Conquer.

You bet I ‘d take that horse any day instead of a piece Obama Union Detroit Iron, a whole herd. And my trusty pistol and CAR 15 too. Farriers are terrific.


39 posted on 08/21/2012 12:08:14 PM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascism article: http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: henkster
You have a very good aptitude for horses. The average kid will not achieve that level of proficiency in eight months, let alone eight weeks.

My father was one generation away from the Reservation. He had that kind of aptitude. I did not learn to ever do more than the basics.

40 posted on 08/21/2012 1:38:36 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Vigilanteman

I don’t know if I had a good aptitude for horses or was just too crazy to be afraid of them. I did get a lot of practice, being in the saddle four or five hours a day. That’s probably what did it. It wasn’t too hard on the horse, as I probably weighed all of 130 pounds back then.


41 posted on 08/21/2012 2:24:17 PM PDT by henkster (We're the slaves of the phony leaders...)
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