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Obama talks about his faith
politico ^ | 8/21/12 | BYRON TAU

Posted on 08/21/2012 11:29:20 AM PDT by ColdOne

In an interview with the Washington National Cathedral magazine, President Obama discussed how his faith influenced his politics — saying that at the end of the day 'God is in control.'

“First and foremost, my Christian faith gives me a perspective and security that I don’t think I would have otherwise: that I am loved. That, at the end of the day, God is in control," Obama said.

Obama also tied faith in God to his belief in a compassionate role for government.

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1 posted on 08/21/2012 11:29:21 AM PDT by ColdOne
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To: ColdOne
Was that his Muslim faith, or his Christian faith?
2 posted on 08/21/2012 11:32:17 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: ColdOne

Christian faith? OK, let’s see the baptismal certificate, communion and confirmation papers. Such BS!!!


3 posted on 08/21/2012 11:34:24 AM PDT by ponz7
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To: ColdOne

If Obama is a Christian, he sure doesn’t produce the fruit that Christians are supposed to be producing. You can’t on the one hand say that Jesus is your Lord, then on the other hand be in favor putting a baby that has survived an abortion in a utility closet to die.


4 posted on 08/21/2012 11:35:51 AM PDT by MEGoody (You shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: ColdOne

“my Christian faith”

You are not a Christian. Period.


5 posted on 08/21/2012 11:37:20 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (OWS = The Great American Snivel War)
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To: ColdOne
0bummer sure loves the Bible...

Barack Obama Mocks And Makes Fun Of The Bible (video 2:09)

6 posted on 08/21/2012 11:37:33 AM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: ColdOne

Nice words ... some of them typical Obama platitudes. The problem is that I don’t believe a word this psychopathic liar says.


7 posted on 08/21/2012 11:37:45 AM PDT by layman (Card Carrying Infidel)
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To: ColdOne

Compassion in collectivism is a facade and propaganda.

Underneath, unblinking, soulless cruelty.


8 posted on 08/21/2012 11:39:24 AM PDT by lurk
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To: ponz7
let’s see the baptismal certificate, communion and confirmation papers

I don't have any of those. Do you think that means I am not a Christian?

I was baptized as an adult, holding my infant daughter, following her baptism.

9 posted on 08/21/2012 11:42:40 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: lurk
The liberal's idea of compassion is known as Idiot Compassion
10 posted on 08/21/2012 11:43:31 AM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: ColdOne

A true believing Christian cannot support the practice of abortion. Obama supports the act of partial birth abortion.

The Bible states that the practice of homosexuality is counted among sin. Obama supports homosexuality.

You shall know the tree by the fruit it bears. Obama is simply trying to leverage Chritianity for his own personal ambition. In so doing he mocks God.


11 posted on 08/21/2012 11:44:21 AM PDT by Obadiah (If Reagan had another son he would have looked like Paul Ryan.)
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To: thackney

Well, I have all my papers, including the Bible I received from the Church on the day of my confirmation.

By the way, just what Christian denomination is he? Catholic, Protestant?? Still BS no matter how you slice it.


12 posted on 08/21/2012 11:44:36 AM PDT by ponz7
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To: ColdOne; All

READ THE LINK

He was much more candid (and VERY wishy-washy) in 2008

November 11, 2008

Obama’s Fascinating Interview with Cathleen Falsani

http://blog.christianitytoday.com/ctpolitics/2008/11/obamas_fascinat.html


13 posted on 08/21/2012 11:45:46 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: ColdOne
Obama Defends Roe v. Wade As Way for ‘Our Daughters’ to Have Same Chance As Sons to ‘Fulfill Their Dreams’

Obama denies protection for infants of botched abortions

He cannot be a muslim or a christian in my book.
14 posted on 08/21/2012 11:45:54 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: martin_fierro

FALSANI:
Have you always been a Christian?

OBAMA:
I was raised more by my mother and my mother was Christian

http://blog.christianitytoday.com/ctpolitics/2008/11/obamas_fascinat.html

The guy is a weasel.


15 posted on 08/21/2012 11:46:33 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: Cheerio

0bama is an apostate of humanity.


16 posted on 08/21/2012 11:47:17 AM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: ColdOne

Which famouse US President once said: “When push comes to shove, I will side with the Muslims”

Can anyone guess?


17 posted on 08/21/2012 11:48:04 AM PDT by Mr. K ("The spread of evil is the symptom of a vacuum [of good]")
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To: ColdOne
". . . his belief in a compassionate role for government."

George Washington declared, "Government, like fire, is a dangerous servant and fearful master." America's Founders were passionate about liberty for individuals, and they recognized that what we refer to as "government" is just some individual, or individuals coercively exercising their power and will over other individuals. Understanding human nature, they saw all the dangers in that, and structured a "People's" Constitution to severely limit any grants of power to folks who might use chicanery and "compassion" as an excuse for imposing tyranny on a free Republic.

Now, using a commonly friendly word like "shared" to describe a government policy of force and coercion is despicable on its face, but that is what the current Administration is doing. Then, again, isn't that descriptive of how all totalitarian regimes initially present themselves in order to gain power?

In the course of his research for "Solzhenitsyn: A Soul in Exile" (Harper Collins), Joseph Pearch traveled to Moscow to interview the writer. The excerpt below is from that interview:

Solzhenitsyn: "In different places over the years I have had to prove that socialism, which to many western thinkers is a sort of kingdom of justice, was in fact full of coercion, of bureaucratic greed and corruption and avarice, and consistent within itself that socialism cannot be implemented without the aid of coercion. Communist propaganda would sometimes include statements such as "we include almost all the commandments of the Gospel in our ideology". The difference is that the Gospel asks all this to be achieved through love, through self-limitation, but socialism only uses coercion." Solzhenitsyn

Even the current President, at the National Prayer Breakfast this year, attempted to tie his policy of forced "sharing" to Jesus's appeal for voluntary charity.

Coercive "taking" power, when wielded against the citizenry by either the government alone (taxing), or in combination with another power (unions), is destructive of freedom and prosperity.

In the early days of America's experiment in liberty, its Founders warned of oppressive taxation by those elected to represent the people. Under their "People's" Constitution, the people were left free, and the government was limited.

While Europe struggled with oppressive government intervention, the genius Founders of America recognized enduring truths about human nature, the human tendency to abuse power, and the possibilities of liberty for individuals. Richard Frothingham's 1872 "History of the Rise of the Republic of the United States," Page 14, contained the following footnote item on the condition of citizens of France:

"Footnote 1. M. de Champagny (Dublin Review, April, 1868) says of France, 'We were and are unable to go from Paris to Neuilly; or dine more than twenty together; or have in our portmanteau three copies of the same tract; or lend a book to a friend: or put a patch of mortar on our own house, if it stands in the street; or kill a partridge; or plant a tree near the road-side; or take coal out of our own land: or teach three or four children to read, . .. without permission from the civil government.'"

Clearly the government of France at that 1868 date laid an oppressive regulatory and tax burden on citizens, robbing them of their Creator-endowed liberty and enjoyment thereof. Frothingham observed that such coercive power constituted "a noble form robbed of its lifegiving spirit."

Thomas Jefferson warned Americans:

"To preserve [the] independence [of the people,] we must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt. We must make our election between economy and liberty, or profusion and servitude. If we run into such debts as that we must be taxed in our meat and in our drink, in our necessaries and our comforts, in our labors and our amusements, for our callings and our creeds, as the people of England are, our people, like them, must come to labor sixteen hours in the twenty-four, give the earnings of fifteen of these to the government for their debts and daily expenses, and the sixteenth being insufficient to afford us bread, we must live, as they now do, on oatmeal and potatoes, have no time to think, no means of calling the mismanagers to account, but be glad to obtain subsistence by hiring ourselves to rivet their chains on the necks of our fellow-sufferers." --Thomas Jefferson to Samuel Kercheval, 1816. ME 15:39

Note Jefferson's very last thought here. He declares that when government taxing and debt have reached certain levels, in order for individuals to survive, then their chosen "employment" becomes "hiring ourselves to rivet their (the government's) chains on the necks of our fellow-sufferers." Might that account for why it is government employment levels which have risen at such great rates in the past few years?

Inasmuch as government creates no wealth and has no money, the pay for every job in government must first come out of the pockets of hardworking citizens in the private sector or be borrowed (to be paid back eventually from the pockets of future generations).

There's nothing very compassionate or benevolent in such a policy!

18 posted on 08/21/2012 11:48:52 AM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: ColdOne

Who put this claptrap on obama’s teleprompter, anyway? And why is he given this stuff to an ultra-liberal Episcopalian magazine?

If obama is such a Christian, why is he handing over control of much of the world to the muslim Brotherhood?

And remember obama’s two “greatest” quotes:

“You didn’t build that!”

“Take the pain pill!”


19 posted on 08/21/2012 11:49:52 AM PDT by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: ColdOne

Bath-House Barry talks TAQIYYA about his “faith”.


20 posted on 08/21/2012 11:50:15 AM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: ColdOne

Does anybody know how to get vomit off of a keyboard?


21 posted on 08/21/2012 11:50:39 AM PDT by anoldafvet
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To: ColdOne
Talk about your strategically timed dog and pony show. Real Christians don't need to talk about their faith, the live it.
22 posted on 08/21/2012 11:52:13 AM PDT by fhayek
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To: Honorary Serb
"Eat your peas."

0bama required that the cross be covered when he gave a speech at Notre Dame.

Christian symbol covered up during Obama’s Georgetown speech

23 posted on 08/21/2012 11:53:31 AM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: ColdOne

The only faith Obummer has is to himself.


24 posted on 08/21/2012 11:53:31 AM PDT by mongo141 (Revolution ver. 2.0, just a matter of when, not a matter of if!)
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To: ColdOne

” Understanding that black liberation theology is Marxism dressed up to look like Christianity helps explain why there is no conflict between Cone’s “Christianity” and Farrakhan’s “Nation of Islam.” They are two prophets in the same philosophical (Marxist) pod, merely using different religions as backdrops for their black-power aims. “

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2010/08/obama_black_liberation_theolog_1.html

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/03/the_real_agenda_of_black_liber.html


25 posted on 08/21/2012 11:54:15 AM PDT by cruise_missile
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To: MEGoody

There is no such thing as

“I’m a Christian but there are many ways of salvation”


26 posted on 08/21/2012 11:58:04 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working fors)
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To: ColdOne

They did this in response to Hank Jr.


27 posted on 08/21/2012 11:58:44 AM PDT by lwd
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To: ponz7

they are kept with his real birth cert so don’t hold your breath


28 posted on 08/21/2012 12:01:24 PM PDT by drypowder
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To: MrB

Bingo!


29 posted on 08/21/2012 12:02:04 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: ColdOne

No Christian thinks the Muslim call to prayer is the most beautiful sound on earth.
Must be close to election day.


30 posted on 08/21/2012 12:02:49 PM PDT by GeorgeTex (Obama-Four M President (Mendacious Manchurian Muslim Marxist))
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To: BenLurkin

thanks for link...really great find!!!


31 posted on 08/21/2012 12:05:30 PM PDT by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11 0bie don' t eat my dog!)
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To: ColdOne

“God is in control”

Spoken like a true moral relativists that excuses evil behavior.

God holds the reset button and throws life lines out here and there. The Creator left humans to be stewards of this earth that have the authority to chose their own path/civilization. God left instructions if humans want to progress in the correct way but those rules have been deemed repressive by the truly “enlightened” malignant human progressives.


32 posted on 08/21/2012 12:09:49 PM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: ColdOne

“First and foremost, my Christian faith gives me a perspective and security that I don’t think I would have otherwise”

“Thats why I blow off the National Day of Prayer breakfast every year since I took office.”


33 posted on 08/21/2012 12:11:14 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: ColdOne

Was little Georgie there to keep him from slipping up with the truth, again?


34 posted on 08/21/2012 12:11:57 PM PDT by crosshairs (America: Once the land of the free. Still the home of the brave.)
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America’s Most Biblically-Hostile U. S. President

Listed below in chronological order are (1) numerous records of his attacks on Biblical persons or organizations; (2) examples of the hostility toward Biblical faith that have become evident in the past three years in the Obama-led military; (3) a listing of his open attacks on Biblical values; and finally (4) a listing of numerous incidents of his preferential deference for Islam’s activities and positions, including letting his Islamic advisors guide and influence his hostility toward people of Biblical faith.

http://www.wallbuilders.com/LIBprinterfriendly.asp?id=106938


35 posted on 08/21/2012 12:12:41 PM PDT by sunny48
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To: ColdOne
First and foremost, my Christian faith gives me a perspective and security that I don’t think I would have otherwise: that I am loved. That, at the end of the day, God is in control," Obama said.

Take it from me, Barak, you are most certainly NOT loved. We despise everything you represent because you've never played straight with conservatives. And your 'supporters' are only behind you for "what they can get." It's strictly a financial/power transaction for Democrats. So spare us the phony Christian stuff.

36 posted on 08/21/2012 12:14:23 PM PDT by Tallguy (It's all 'Fun and Games' until somebody loses an eye!)
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To: BenLurkin
Just got to this point in that article you gave us link to I am a big believer in the separation of church and state. I am a big believer in our constitutional structure
37 posted on 08/21/2012 12:16:31 PM PDT by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11 0bie don' t eat my dog!)
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To: ColdOne

Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

Matthew 7:22-23


38 posted on 08/21/2012 12:18:32 PM PDT by LukeL (Barack Obama: Jimmy Carter 2 Electric Boogaloo)
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To: All; BenLurkin

Many of these actions are literally unprecedented – this is the first time they have happened in four centuries of American history. The hostility of President Obama toward Biblical faith and values is without equal from any previous American president.


39 posted on 08/21/2012 12:22:06 PM PDT by sunny48
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To: ColdOne
If God is in control...."then there is no free will".

So now, he's gonna blame God....

40 posted on 08/21/2012 12:24:47 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: ColdOne

Liar, Liar, pants on Fire!!


41 posted on 08/21/2012 12:28:01 PM PDT by siamesecats (God closes one door, and opens another, to protect us.)
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To: TigersEye
Muslims don't believe in symbols...Remember that big statue they destroyed???

"The sweetest sound"

42 posted on 08/21/2012 12:28:13 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: ColdOne

Oh puh-leeze....
This guy and his family do not go to church regularly...
When they did, it was in Rev. Wright’s blasphemous church.
The man is a poseur and a liar....


43 posted on 08/21/2012 12:29:28 PM PDT by matginzac
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To: BenLurkin
Photobucket I know who his real God is....
44 posted on 08/21/2012 12:31:41 PM PDT by baddog 219
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To: Sacajaweau
Yep, all the way to obama’s “trial” out there away from the confines of time. “Let me give a shout out first to my peeps before I blame you for everything God. Your in control so you know that anyway, someone have any whites lines out there!?”
45 posted on 08/21/2012 12:35:54 PM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: ColdOne

Everybody in the world now knows that Obama is a Muslim.


46 posted on 08/21/2012 12:47:59 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: thackney
I was baptized as an adult, holding my infant daughter, following her baptism.

you should have been issued a Baptismal certificate....welcome to Catholicism!!

47 posted on 08/21/2012 12:57:29 PM PDT by terycarl
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To: ColdOne

This isn’t the guy who plays golf on Easter and has a celebratory dinner on the first day of Ramadan is it?


48 posted on 08/21/2012 1:11:42 PM PDT by kempster
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To: terycarl
you should have been issued a Baptismal certificate....welcome to Catholicism!!

I am not catholic. I was not issued a certificate. Nor am I less connected to Christ my savior for lacking that paper.

49 posted on 08/21/2012 1:13:04 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: ponz7
Well, I have all my papers, including the Bible I received from the Church on the day of my confirmation.

I suspect if I was ever given such, I would cherish them as well. But they are not required for me to be a Christian.

50 posted on 08/21/2012 1:14:32 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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