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600 'Rabbis for Obama' give backing to US president (few Orthodox)
Jerusalem Post ^ | 8/21/12 | JTA

Posted on 08/21/2012 8:13:14 PM PDT by Nachum

WASHINGTON – More than 600 rabbis displayed their support for US President Barack Obama's reelection bid on Tuesday, joining a campaign initiative called Rabbis for Obama.

Obama for America announced Tuesday that Rabbis for Obama is designed to “engage and mobilize grassroots supporters.”

The rabbis represent themselves and not individual synagogues or organizations, according to the news release. The names of all the rabbis can be found on the website barackobama.com/rabbis. Most of the rabbis are Reform or Conservative, although a handful are Orthodox.

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TOPICS: Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2012endorsements; backing; bho2012; jewishvote; obama; rabbis
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A broad group of almost no Orthodox Rabbis.
1 posted on 08/21/2012 8:13:18 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

The list, Ping

Let me know if you would like to be on or off the ping list

http://www.nachumlist.com/


2 posted on 08/21/2012 8:16:56 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

Maybe it’s time for Republicans to stop worrying about Israel. If the jews in America are too stupid to know who supports them, let them be. Let Israel loose to defend herself, let’s drill our own oil and stay the heck out of the middle east. Oh, and let’s deport all Arabs and Muslims while we’re at it and put up one huge fence.

Then let’s deport all liberals/progressives/occupiers/communists/socialists to the communist country of their choice.

Utopia.


3 posted on 08/21/2012 8:18:07 PM PDT by No Socialist
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To: Nachum

4 posted on 08/21/2012 8:21:33 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: Nachum

5 posted on 08/21/2012 8:23:57 PM PDT by workerbee (June 28, 2012 -- 9/11 From Within)
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To: Nachum

I’m a second generation Christian with a long ancestry in Judaism. I have many cousins and nephews and a few still living aunts that are adherents of Judaism and all that I have spoken to have said they will not vote for Obama. If this is a trend the Rabbis may back Obama but their congregation may not be so inclined.


6 posted on 08/21/2012 8:24:57 PM PDT by doc1019 (Given my choices, I will not be voting this time around.)
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To: Nachum
How thoroughly and completely disgusting! These are not men of Yah they are “players.” Anyone who would support a platform of slaughtering babies has a curse on them and it is exhibited in twisted thinking. Scripture says they will call good evil and evil good. Here is a prime example. Don't think these men will escape the Judgment of Yahweh!
7 posted on 08/21/2012 8:29:53 PM PDT by ladyL
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To: Nachum

Very few conservative rabbis as well.

This list looks like a competition of “I’m Less Observant Than You!”


8 posted on 08/21/2012 8:31:10 PM PDT by sf4dubya (I rebelled against my parents by becoming a conservative)
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To: doc1019
re: I have many cousins and nephews and a few still living aunts that are adherents of Judaism

There's your explanation in your own words: Your family members are actual adherents of Judaism. They actually believe in Judaism. They aren't JINO’s, whose real faith is in liberalism, not God.

9 posted on 08/21/2012 8:39:18 PM PDT by Nevadan
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To: Nachum

The earth should open and swallow these kapos whole.


10 posted on 08/21/2012 8:41:21 PM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: MestaMachine

Along with their ‘golden’ calf.


11 posted on 08/21/2012 8:42:50 PM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: MestaMachine

A Yiddish lesson for all Freepers. The word for vommit in Yiddish is “brech” (the ‘ch’ being the same as in Chanukkah...or, if you speak Spanish, ‘j’ like jota)

I read this article and brech....


12 posted on 08/21/2012 8:45:51 PM PDT by Phinneous
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To: Nachum

Are you sure that’s not Rabbits for Obama?


13 posted on 08/21/2012 8:46:57 PM PDT by txrefugee
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To: txrefugee

“Are you sure that’s not Rabbits for Obama?”

I thought I saw that headline - On the Washington Free Bacon... er -Beacon


14 posted on 08/21/2012 8:50:25 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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15 posted on 08/21/2012 8:52:58 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Nachum
Let us not forget that a great many of Reform "rabbis" may not even BE Jewish. The Reform count people fathered by a Jew from a non-Jewish spouse as Jews, contrary to halacha (Jewish law). They also count women as "rabbis", contrary to halacha. They pick and choose what Jewish laws they feel like following, leaving what must be observed to human logic (theirs) rather than Divine wisdom. They are thus as arrogant as they are ignorant. Therefore, their opinions or political choices are meaningless as far as being from a Jewish perspective.

The unfortunate people (who may or may not be Jews for the reason stated above) who look to these charlatans as spiritual leaders are not even aware that they are being led astray at the least and are being outright robbed of the profound truth and beauty of their religion if they are truly Jews. The disgraceful chicanery of these Reform "rabbis" of supporting a pig who has shown beyond the shadow of a doubt that he will undermine Israel and be a friend to her enemies is ample proof that they are not fit to even be called Jews (even if they were born to a Jewish mother) let alone be entrusted to lead a congregation. They are willing conspirators to the destruction of Israel and the United States.

The Conservative "rabbis" are but a tick behind the Reform charlatans. Once you decide that YOU are qualified to decide what to pick to observe and what doesn't need to be observed, you are as naugahyde is to real leather as far as your Jewish observance. Doesn't matter if Reform "rabbis" observe 10% of halacha and Conservative "rabbis" observe 90% of halacha. If you are violating the law, you are a fake and have no business leading a congregation, the blind leading the blinder. And you certainly have NO business giving comfort to an avowed enemy of Israel and the United States. Fie on you!

16 posted on 08/21/2012 8:58:50 PM PDT by EinNYC
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To: Nachum

Time to go to bed....I thought the headline said 600 rabbits were backing Obama....


17 posted on 08/21/2012 8:59:07 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Time for a write-in campaign...Darryl Dixon for President)
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To: Nachum

I’m not Catholic but whenever I see a “You can’t be Catholic and pro-choice” bumper sticker, I nod in agreement. I’m also not Jewish, but maybe someone needs to create a “You can’t be a Rabbi and vote for Obama” bumper sticker.


18 posted on 08/21/2012 8:59:27 PM PDT by Kharis13 (That noise you hear is our Founding Fathers spinning in their graves.)
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To: Nachum

Are these real Jews or just Jews for the extra holidays they get off work?


19 posted on 08/21/2012 9:04:40 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: workerbee

Is that Obamulke in Post 5 for real?


20 posted on 08/21/2012 9:08:12 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Nachum

I will never understand the Jewish love affair with the state and state power.

The state has never been a friend of the Jews.

The United States is the only state in the history of the world where Jews haven’t been persecuted.

And the irony is that most Jews live conservative lives and are not dependent on the state for their existence.

And nowhere in the Torah does it say that Jews should outsource their religious duties-charity and compassion for others— to the government.

And on top everything else, the far left(allied with the Democratic Party) in this country equates Zionism with neo-imperialism and evil.


21 posted on 08/21/2012 9:15:07 PM PDT by radpolis (Liberals: You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy)
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To: Nachum

The J Street crowd of self loathing, opportunistic “Rabbi’s” are little different from those collaborators appointed by the nazis to serve on the Holocaust era Judenrat.


22 posted on 08/21/2012 9:17:19 PM PDT by fso301
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To: Nachum

Waaal,whatyknow, here I thought jews were pretty smart people, but i guess they got their DUDDS like everyone else
Think they might be looking for bigger grants?


23 posted on 08/21/2012 9:20:27 PM PDT by munin
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To: doc1019

Well then YOU should pull the Rabbis voting card!


24 posted on 08/21/2012 9:21:19 PM PDT by BOOHA
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To: BOOHA

?


25 posted on 08/21/2012 9:24:42 PM PDT by doc1019 (Given my choices, I will not be voting this time around.)
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To: Nachum
>> A broad group of almost no Orthodox Rabbis. <<

Orthodox are around 10% of Jews in the U.S. They don't represent the "Jewish vote" in America anymore than Maryland represents the "southern vote". Obama may win big in Maryland but he'll get crushed in the south as a whole. Orthodox Rabbis may dislike Obama but Jewish voters in general will still blindly support him.

26 posted on 08/21/2012 9:25:10 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: BillyBoy

‘Orthodox are around 10% of Jews in the U.S’

Might even be less than 10%


27 posted on 08/21/2012 9:33:13 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: BillyBoy

Just for fun, I looked this up-

“How Strong is Orthodox Judaism — Really?
The Demographics of Jewish Religious Identification”

http://jcpa.org/dje/articles2/demographics.htm

This fellow puts the number of ‘orthodox Jews in the U.S. at approx. 600,000. And worldwide at about 2.2 mil.

Side note: the birthrate of the Orthodox is more than double the non-orthodox.

And- most are affiliated with some synagogue. Affiliated Jews in the U.S. are put at about 4.5 million, which still only puts the orthodox at less than 12%.

Still, 600,000 Orthodox Jews in the U.S. is nothing to sneeze at, -and the Obamatrons have made a deliberate effort to ignore them.


28 posted on 08/21/2012 9:43:23 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Phinneous

Dathan’s people.


29 posted on 08/21/2012 9:58:25 PM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: Nachum

NOT a Rabbi, but a “rabbi”. A true Rabbi does not put Marx above Moses, and Obama above halacha.


30 posted on 08/21/2012 9:58:55 PM PDT by montag813
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To: Nachum

I remember in 2008 The Schlepp...young people being urged to visit old relatives and talk them into voting for the “unknown one”.

Pamela Gellar of Atlas Shrugs tried to get a reverse Schlepp going—to convince Jewish seniors that Bath-House Barry wasn’t worth spit.

I hope something like this is in the works again.
Those of the Jewish faith seem to go for the “underdog”—well, the underdog THIS time is the poor American slob paying his bills, raising a family and paying taxes that buy all the lobster that goes down America-hating Manchelle’s throat. (God only knows what goes down Bath-House Barry’s throat.)


31 posted on 08/21/2012 10:11:40 PM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: Nachum

Are rabbits allowed to vote now?


32 posted on 08/21/2012 10:55:32 PM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: Nachum
>> 600,000 Orthodox Jews in the U.S. is nothing to sneeze at, - and the Obamatrons have made a deliberate effort to ignore them. <<

It has to do with the way their numbers are distributed. If they were all concentrated together in a swing state like Ohio, Obama would really be shooting himself in the foot by ignoring them. However, they appear to be in places like Brooklyn where their presence in the voting pool isn't likely to affect the outcome and the electoral totals.

More problematic for the Dems than the "Orthodox Rabbi" minority within Judaism that leans conservative, is the Cuban-American vote within the Hispanic community that leans conservative. They have a lot of clout in Florida, whereas I think Orthodox Jews don't even have a lot of clout in Jewish communities as a whole, let alone the general public. Their numbers are growing, but so are the numbers of secular, non-practicing Jews, and I bet they're overwhelmingly Democrat.

The electoral college has an interesting impact on how votes are distributed. It's why both Henry Wallace and Strom Thurmond received about 2% of the popular vote nationwide in 1948, but Thurmond won 39 electoral votes and Wallace won 0. Thurmond's votes came almost exclusively from the deep south, while Wallace's were scattered nationwide and did best in liberal areas that were "safe Democrat" anyway.

33 posted on 08/21/2012 11:27:10 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: Nachum

Mullahs for Obama!


34 posted on 08/21/2012 11:29:32 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: EinNYC

Conservative in my state is a huge, vast difference than Reform. Borderline modern orthodox if you will.

Reform is downright kooky in the West.

I feel like there is a shortage of good, conservative rabbis out here.


35 posted on 08/21/2012 11:31:11 PM PDT by sf4dubya (I rebelled against my parents by becoming a conservative)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

“Is that Obamulke in Post 5 for real?”

Yes but the person who is wearing it is a fake.


36 posted on 08/21/2012 11:33:26 PM PDT by ari-freedom
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To: Nachum

It appears he has done some outreach to Orthodox Jews, but thankfully they’re not buying his B.S.:

http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2012/06/obama_meets_with_orthodox_rabb.html

Obama’s website doesn’t list the denomination of the “600 Rabbi’s”, so I’d be curious to know just how many the “handful” of Orthodox rabbi’s that endorsed him are... 3 Rabbis? 5? 7? And more importantly, how they can justify their endorsement.

The media’s perception of religious denominations is very odd. During the coverage of the Iowa caucus, they talks about the super duper important “evangelical vote” so much that you’d think the state is 99% evangelical protestants and 1% everyone else. It’s actually split evenly between Catholics and Evangelicals — about 25% evangelical, 23% Catholic, and 50% everyone else. I guess the media figures Catholics either don’t vote or aren’t important, since they never discussed the “Catholic vote” in Iowa and no candidate bothered with “outreach” to them, including the Catholic candidates.


37 posted on 08/21/2012 11:35:54 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: radpolis

“And on top everything else, the far left(allied with the Democratic Party) in this country equates Zionism with neo-imperialism and evil.”

It was once the other way around. Truman and Robert Kennedy versus H W Bush and Baker. Some Jews vote democrat because they remember the old pro-Israel New Republic Democrat and others vote Democrat because they really don’t like Israel.

There are other Jews who think that most Republicans are like Akin and want to force their kids to celebrate Christmas in public school.


38 posted on 08/21/2012 11:41:20 PM PDT by ari-freedom
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To: sf4dubya
Reform "Judaism" in the West, from what I've seen, is pretty much the bagels and lox kind. They don't dress or act any differently from their non-Jewish neighbors, so what's the point?

Spiritual depravity was the reason that G-d took the Jews out of Egypt. The Jews in Egypt had fallen to the 49th level (of 50 possible levels, with 50 being the lowest) of tumah--spiritual impurity and moral decadence. G-d took them out of Egypt, away from the immorality of the Egyptians just before they fell to the lowest level--the state of total spiritual suicide and an end to being Jewish. Had they lingered just the slightest more bit of time in Egypt, they would have been irredeemable.

It seems that, from what I've seen, unfortunately many Jews here have reached the 49th or even a lower level of tumah. Cavorting about in immodest clothing with accompanying lewd behavior, substituting the acquisition of material goods for attaining spiritual growth, and ignoring the Commandments has resulted in a loss of the whole concept of what constitutes a Jewish life. These unfortunate people don't even know what conducting oneself as a Jew means--and I don't mean having an appetite for bagels!

It is therefore little wonder that they fall prey to slick false promises from a snake oil salesman and that they don't even care if he wants to throw Israel under the bus. One Obamabot told me hotly, "If you care so much about Israel, why don't you move there?" The assimilated have no concept of the special holiness of Israel to the Jewish people and its exalted place in our history, so it's just a geographical name to them. They are willing to settle for vinyl because they don't even know the joy of real leather.

39 posted on 08/22/2012 12:10:52 AM PDT by EinNYC
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To: No Socialist

“Maybe it’s time for Republicans to stop worrying about Israel.”

That is the silliest thing I’ve ever heard.

Israel is in real danger. You’re going to let Israel, the only democracy and our only ally in the ME, be nuked off of the planet or, as they say, be driven into the sea?

You are advocating genocide.

Okie dokie...we know where you stand.

The rest of your post is too nonsensical to address.


40 posted on 08/22/2012 12:19:04 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (This hobbit is looking for her pitchfork...God help the GOP if I find it.)
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To: doc1019

There are a lot of Catholics who don’t back Obama, too, even though some with loud voices in the church say otherwise.


41 posted on 08/22/2012 12:21:20 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (This hobbit is looking for her pitchfork...God help the GOP if I find it.)
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To: Phinneous

Thanks for the new yiddish word! At least, it’s new to me.

Brech...I’ll remember it. ;o)


42 posted on 08/22/2012 12:24:02 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (This hobbit is looking for her pitchfork...God help the GOP if I find it.)
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To: Nachum

It makes me sad to see how quickly many Jews seem to have forgotten that socialism and gas chambers go hand in hand.


43 posted on 08/22/2012 12:41:15 AM PDT by saintgermaine
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To: Nachum

Rabbis support nationalist socialist Muslim communist, the first Kenyan president.

Judaism and Israel must be out of favor among Rabbis, because the obamunists do not support them either.


44 posted on 08/22/2012 1:26:49 AM PDT by FlyingEagle
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To: saintgermaine

Not just socialism and not just gas chambers.

The relationship between concentrated state power and killing and oppressing Jews is one that goes back over 2000 years and transcends continents, religions, forms of government, and cultures.

If I were a Jew, I would be a Milton Friedman Jew.

The less government the better, not just for economic reasons, but to remain politically free and physically alive.


45 posted on 08/22/2012 1:28:31 AM PDT by radpolis (Liberals: You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy)
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To: Nachum

IDIOTS! LIBERALS FIRST, JEWS SECOND!!


46 posted on 08/22/2012 4:41:35 AM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: EinNYC

Meant in the Western states of the US.

There isn’t a synagogue on every other corner like there is in NYC.

There are plenty of Jews in Israel who are not frum either so it is not about physical location.

And of course, different movements of Chasidism — which one is right?

All that aside, it must be about outreach and bringing secular Jews back into the fold via multiple paths. We need to be good teachers, and there is a shortage of them according to this list.


47 posted on 08/22/2012 7:32:15 AM PDT by sf4dubya (I rebelled against my parents by becoming a conservative)
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To: BillyBoy
It appears he has done some outreach to Orthodox Jews, but thankfully they’re not buying his B.S.:

Yep. I remember that meeting (and posting an article). Obama was met with virtual silence. I doubt you'll see him do that again. :)

The three or four orthodox Rabbis that signed on to this are probably not associated with with any true orthodox movement or were influenced by others to do it somehow. There are also a few knee jerk Democrat orthodox too. Actually know a couple. One worked for Moynahan. Democrat-ism is his second religion.

The media’s perception of religious denominations is very odd.

Like you said, the Dems look at the voting demographics. Then massage their message to the respective voters and worked with the sycophant media operatives. That is why nobody went after the Catholics in Iowa IMHO.

48 posted on 08/22/2012 8:54:08 AM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

That’s 600 people too stupid to live. They are backing someone that hates them and their nation of Israel.


49 posted on 08/22/2012 8:54:51 AM PDT by CodeToad (Anticipate their arrival...they won't.)
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To: sf4dubya
Did you know that there is exactly ONE Orthodox synagogue in the entire state of Wyoming? That my car windshield was smashed in by a giant rock while my car was parked in a synagogue parking lot in El Paso? That I was doing good to find ONE Orthodox synagogue in Phoenix? You don't have to tell me about the scarcity of synagogues in the Western states. Been there, done that. Even dined on glatt kosher while in the middle of the Arizona desert, by primus stove. Judaism is very cool in that it's quite portable!

My reply was a description of the sorry state of American Jewry's level of knowledge, let alone observance. It was a lament, a personal Eichah. It was not a condemnation. You cannot condemn non-observance of mitzvos you don't even know exist. They are the Tinok Shenishbah, raised in ignorance by the ignorant. In some cases, they are people who know better but who went off the derech, lusting after false gods of material attainment, popularity, shaking off the yoke of authority in general.

You are absolutely correct in that we must be good teachers to the secular Jews. One way to do this is to lead by example. Another way is to lovingly inform while not condemning.

It's a funny thing, but I have often received compliments from non-Jewish colleagues about how I stick to my principles no matter what political or personal flack it brings me. They really admire me. I have never received any such compliment from a non-observant Jew. They instead cringe about me "making waves". Hard to believe we come from the same people.

50 posted on 08/22/2012 10:35:15 AM PDT by EinNYC
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