Posted on 08/21/2012 10:47:31 PM PDT by DallasBiff
Hubris cuts both ways, be it democrat or GOP, which will be the first to finally cut down hubris.
It looks like the GOP, which took the brave stand, to stand up to the hubristic Todd Akin, and say that verbal hubristics do have consequences.
As a person, he should be forgiven for his mistake. As a candidate that doesn’t have any chance anymore, and with his presence distracts other important races that might affect the very cause he’s championing, we need to move on from him.
Oh for goodness sakes. Of course he must have meant a genuine rape, and not a jutifiable one.
But the point is that the media spin has hit such a pitch that he can never recover and yet win.
If this dolt wanted to run for senate, he should’ve improved his language skills. Better yet, he shouldnt have ventured into this debate without sufficient preparation.
Now its time for him to get out of the way and let someone else take over.
You’re right. Conservative candidates need to know where they’re going to be attacked and trapped. The list of issues and how they need to be handled should be ready all the time.
Like I pointed out before: he meant legitimate as in actual. He was not suggesting that there is such a thing as an illegitimate rape. He meant a rape with all of its strong emotional consequences which plays a role in the health of the victim / person.
This just proves how important it is to master the language lest one be misconstrued or distorted.
Well it is a documented fact that rape victims get pregnant just 5 % of the time hence he made a valid point.
it wasn’t jus that he used the phrase legitimate rape, which would be dumb but not fatal, it is that he said that women couldn’t get pregnant from forcible rape because of biological defenses. By saying that, he admitted his beliefs were based on bad science, and is getting destroyed for it. He walked back that statement today, but too little too late.
[ The Rape, Abuse & Incest National Network, along with Planned Parenthood, each estimate that 5% of rapes lead to pregnancy. A 1996 study from the Medical University of South Carolina found the same percentage... ]
The facts bear out the Akin's & his doctors' notion.
I just posted a link which PROVES his assertion though.
“This guy is going to lose to McCaskill.”
He is going to lose if we don’t come together and start supporting him. The focus needs to be on McCaskill.
The biological defenses are basically the consequences of the strong emotional distress that occurs to one’s system after a rape & I just posted a source which VERIFIES the basic premise as just 5 % of rape victims get pregnant. Thus there is IN FACT HARD SCIENCE to the notion that rape causes biological defenses to getting pregnant. How else could it be as nature would not perpetuate the progeny of the rapists & would have a logical defense mechanism against it. That does not mean that no one ever gets pregnant from rape but the statistics clearly point out that it is a very small percentage who do thus we all owe Akin an apology for jumping to conclusions based on out own ill-informed presumption.
Both Hank and Akin are stupid.
Exactly!!!
Probably because they are more concerned for the unborn babies who will not be born because of this man. Akin did more damage to the pro-life movement than some democrats could only wish they could have done.
The pro-life movement is the victim. NOT Akin.
“Wasnt rape once defined as carnal knowledge of one human being by another, by force and without consent? How and when was that changed?”
I’m sure that still counts. Problem is there are now all kinds of other definitions, including where the woman gets to rethink her consent after the fact.
Well, my only point in that was I had heard from medical reports that rape is such a traumatic type of thing that, um, that it, uh, that here is a reaction, said Akin. But thats wrong and thats the second thing that Ive apologized for.
Second, the source you posted said 5% of rapes lead to pregnancy - that's a HIGH number! It doesn't make your point, it refutes it (3% is the average rate of pregnancy). But it is a waste of time to bicker over numbers which may or may not be accurate. Just wake up and try to take in the bigger picture, which is if obamacare isn't repealed next year, it probably never will be. And it can't be repealed without a majority in the senate. And it will be a lot harder to gain a majority if we can't count on MO as a GOP win. Not to mention the potential collateral damage to other candidates in close races..
If you want to understand the science a little better, this is a good start: http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/context-and-variation/2012/08/20/here-is-some-legitimate-science-on-pregnancy-and-rape/
Great reply! The libtards set a trap for this dim bulb and he stepped in it. Unfortunately, the “jaws” of the trap were conservatives. By once again allowing the libtards to control the game by controlling the meaning of words.
But I have no such faith, and this guy staying in is ego-driven and amateurish.In all due respect, your post seems a bit "ego-driven" as well. Maybe you could take a look at your plank before removing the speck on Todd's tie. If you want to help save America, vote pro-Life!
It is unacceptable. I still can’t believe he said it.
However, something else is unacceptable to: I’m having so much sex I can’t afford my birth control.
(Of course the later statement would conclude that it was stated by a slut but you would be a fault for thinking this.)
Impress me by defining “illegitimate rape”.
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