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Obama: Not my job to convince folks Im a Christian
Yahoo! ^ | August 21, 2012 | Olivier Knox

Posted on 08/22/2012 5:39:45 AM PDT by LucianOfSamasota

President Barack Obama says convincing doubters that he is a Christian isn't part of his job description. Mitt Romney tells skeptics of his faith: "I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God and the Savior of mankind" and pleads for tolerance.

The two White House contenders addressed the issue of persistent questioning of their religious beliefs as part of a wide-ranging exchange with Washington National Cathedral's Cathedral Age. The magazine asked Obama and Romney to weigh in on the role of faith in public life and politics as well as in their personal lives.

Public opinion polls have repeatedly found large numbers of Americans who say they think Obama, a practicing Christian, is secretly a Muslim. And some conservative Christian groups reject Romney's Mormon faith.

So "how do you respond" to those who "have questioned the sincerity of your faith and your Christianity?" the magazine asked.

"You know, there's not much I can do about it," Obama said.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: obama; sodomhusseinobama
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You know, I'm not his judge. And I can't see into his heart and know his deepest thoughts, motives and intentions.

But I CAN see whether his policies and positions support a Christian perspective:

*Christ tells us to give generously to those in need; but he doesn't say to take enviously from those who have abundance.

*Christ teaches that barbarian or Greek, male or female, free or slave, we are all the same in Him; Christ does not incite racial tension.

*Christ teaches to lift up the banner of Christ, and He will draw all men unto Him; Christ doesn't teach that we should glorify Islam or other false religions, and He doesn't teach many paths to God.

*Abortion is not a Christian value.

*Christians may not bear false witness to win political contests.

*Christians cannot give kickbacks and payoffs to their political supporters, nor can they engage in voter fraud.

I guess I would like to see a man stand for some Christian position, if I am to believe he is a deep and committed follower of Christ. As far as redistribution of wealth, its hard for me to see how a philosophy designed (by Marx) to replace Christianity (which Marx considered a great evil) can beheld up as Christian virtue, even though a lot of people today seem to conflate redistribution with Biblical charity.

1 posted on 08/22/2012 5:39:53 AM PDT by LucianOfSamasota
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To: LucianOfSamasota
Obama: Not my job to convince folks I’m a Christian

Is nothing his job?

Crap, if you looked at it on paper, Obama is the highest profile "unemployed" person in this country. He hasn't worked a single day since February 2009.

2 posted on 08/22/2012 5:45:09 AM PDT by Caipirabob (I say we take off and Newt the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure...)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

You did everything you could during the election to prove you have no belief in anything that Christians would recognize as being Christian and did everything since then to offend us.

No, you are not a Christian....and I rarely make that call.


3 posted on 08/22/2012 5:47:07 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: LucianOfSamasota
Obama says convincing doubters that he is a Christian isn't part of his job description

As if that were possible, anyway.

NOT!

4 posted on 08/22/2012 5:47:32 AM PDT by grobdriver (Proud Member, Party of No! Nobama, No Way, No How!)
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To: LucianOfSamasota
"You know, there's not much I can do about it," Obama said.

"Now step aside or play through, I'm busy here".

5 posted on 08/22/2012 5:49:05 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

Sorry barry. Those who know the truth know you ain’t.


6 posted on 08/22/2012 5:49:19 AM PDT by crosshairs (America: Once the land of the free. Still the home of the brave.)
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To: LucianOfSamasota
Obama, a practicing Christian

It would appear he needs more practice.

Of course, so do I...

7 posted on 08/22/2012 5:49:21 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Vendome

No one who is really a Christian, no matter what they call themselves, says “I’m a Christian but/and there are other/many ways to God/Salvation.”

No, if you’re a Christian, you reject any “other way” as bogus and anti-Christian.


8 posted on 08/22/2012 5:52:12 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working fors)
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To: LucianOfSamasota
Obama: Not my job to convince folks I’m a Christian

From the way his regime has governed the last 3+ years, 0bama, the "Community Organizer", really doesn't know ANYTHING about what his job is, and is a CHRISTIAN for political purposes only!

9 posted on 08/22/2012 5:53:43 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty ("Get that evil, foreign, muslim, usurping bastard out of MY White House!" FUBO GTFO!)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

Based on the evidence you present, Obama is not guilty.


10 posted on 08/22/2012 5:57:21 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: LucianOfSamasota
Too much work trying to keep up the charade eh hussein?

We all know how you like to avoid hard work...

11 posted on 08/22/2012 5:58:36 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: Caipirabob

Everytime he blames Bush, he’s admitting that he’s not up to the presidency. “It’s not my job” and “it’s Bush’s fault”. This is a platform to campaign on? Is this really how low the bar’s been set for him?


12 posted on 08/22/2012 6:00:18 AM PDT by Spok
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To: LucianOfSamasota
This guy is made out of 100% ego.

Muslim ego, at that.

13 posted on 08/22/2012 6:03:57 AM PDT by Lazamataz (I love the Universe, and it loves me.)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

“Not my job to convince folks I’m a Christian”

WTF!!!!...You stupid SOB... you took your oath of office on a BIBLE!!!!


14 posted on 08/22/2012 6:04:25 AM PDT by SMARTY ("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
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To: LucianOfSamasota
"Obama pointed to Isaiah 40:31 ("But they that wait upon the Lord shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles; they shall run, and not be weary; and they shall walk, and not faint""

Sounds a lot like his answer to "What superhero power would you most like to have?" I wonder which answer he believes in most?

15 posted on 08/22/2012 6:07:30 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

Why isn’t he using the same burden of proof for Romney’s tax records. If it’s the accuser’s burden to prove Obama isn’t a christian then it is the accuser’s burden to prove Romney didn’t pay taxes.

I am tired of these Alinsky assaults from the left. Time to ram Alinsky down their throats for a change.


16 posted on 08/22/2012 6:10:06 AM PDT by Dutch Boy
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To: LucianOfSamasota

uhhh....Mr. President, the job of a Christian IS to go out into the world and “convince folks” that you ARE a Christian. Every day.


17 posted on 08/22/2012 6:13:06 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Dutch Boy

nobama commented fully some time back on all questions asked of him: “Can’t I just eat my waffle?” What a poseur loser.


18 posted on 08/22/2012 6:14:44 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCAffMSWSzY

YOU ARE A BIG FAT MUSLIM LIAR~~~


19 posted on 08/22/2012 6:20:30 AM PDT by PLD
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To: LucianOfSamasota
YOU ARE A BIG FAT MUSLIM LIAR~~~
20 posted on 08/22/2012 6:20:59 AM PDT by PLD
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To: LucianOfSamasota
Of course it isn't.
Whoever said it was?

It is no more a man's job to prove he's a woman, or a woman's job to prove she's a man than it is for a muslim to prove it's a Christian.

Sheesh !

Thank you Miss Baron for teaching me to read with understanding.

21 posted on 08/22/2012 6:21:46 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

And by their works you shall know them....


22 posted on 08/22/2012 6:22:15 AM PDT by EBH (Obama took away your American Dreams and replaced them with "Dreams from My (his) Father".)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

He is really thin skined aint he


23 posted on 08/22/2012 6:25:53 AM PDT by al baby (“If Barack Obama has a Harvard law degree, he didn’t earn that. Somebody else made that happen.”)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

This half breed mongrel is at least consistent.

FACT, 100% provable: He stated his Islamic faith in an ABC interview and the interviewer had to correct him that he was a Christian. So, who do we believe Barry #1 or Barry #2 (corrected by ABC News)?

FACT 100% provable: In his Senate campaign, his campaign literature touted his Kenyan birthplace but because that would have prevented him from becoming president he now claims to be born in the USA using a BC so doctored that ANY person in ANY pre-press operation at ANY newspaper or commercial printer in the country could plainly see was a forgery.

FACT, 100% provable: He told us if we wanted to know where his political leanings were to simply look at the people he surrounded himself with. Well, just how many SELF-AVOWED, Marxists, communists, socialists surrounding the president, does the media need to say, “Mr. President you are a Marxist”?


24 posted on 08/22/2012 6:27:25 AM PDT by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam!)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

At this point, I’d be happy if he’d just be able to prove he was American.


25 posted on 08/22/2012 6:27:44 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-HqHSkYG-Y&feature=fvwrel


26 posted on 08/22/2012 6:31:39 AM PDT by PLD
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To: Joe 6-pack

LOL! Me too.


27 posted on 08/22/2012 6:31:39 AM PDT by CityCenter
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To: LucianOfSamasota
He doesn't know it but Wright taught him to be a muslim.
28 posted on 08/22/2012 6:38:17 AM PDT by ryan71
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To: Caipirabob

Everything is “not my job” and “above my pay grade” with this clown. We should be thankful it is or he’d be destroying the country at a faster rate. If he wants his job to be playing golf then go for it.


29 posted on 08/22/2012 6:45:30 AM PDT by bgill
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To: LucianOfSamasota
That's all right, Barry.

We all know you're a Saudi project.

30 posted on 08/22/2012 6:45:30 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

Notice how the writer slips in the “a practicing Christian” into the article. This happenes all the time, as if we are too stupid to not know that Obama says what he thinks we want to ehar, but does whatever he wants - and that is not to behave as a Christian.

These so-called journalists are likely not Christians, and so they cannot or will not be able to really spot a true Christian. A Christian needs to do more than say he is a Christian. For instance, maybe a bit of celebration of the Christmas holy day would be in order????


31 posted on 08/22/2012 6:50:03 AM PDT by Gumdrop
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To: LucianOfSamasota
Obama: Not my job to convince folks I’m a Christian

Americans: Not our job to assume you're a Christian.
(that would require faith)

32 posted on 08/22/2012 6:51:27 AM PDT by libertarian27 (Check my profile page for the FReeper Online Cookbook 2011)
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To: SMARTY
you took your oath of office on a BIBLE!!!!

The POS who's living in our White House is using Taqiyya, a form of religious dissimulation,or a legal dispensation whereby a believing individual can deny his faith.

In other words, he's a filthy liar and a very devout Muslim who picks pig meat out of soups.

33 posted on 08/22/2012 6:51:51 AM PDT by laweeks
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To: LucianOfSamasota

reminder: even dishonest abe was not averse to frequently using the truth when it would seem to benefit himself....

Semper Watching!
*****


34 posted on 08/22/2012 6:56:31 AM PDT by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

“By their fruits you shall know them.” Does anyone doubt Billy Graham’s Christianity?
Put Obama next to Billy Graham and one can immediately discern Obama is no Christian.
I don’t think he is much of anything frankly. He is more like Karl Marx than he knows.


35 posted on 08/22/2012 6:57:40 AM PDT by Wiser now (Socialism does not eliminate poverty, it guarantees it.)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

“By their fruits ye shall know them”


36 posted on 08/22/2012 6:57:40 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: LucianOfSamasota

His actions and beliefs tell us what he is. The bozo doesn’t have to convince us of anything! We’re not HIS voters so we’re smarter than he thinks we are.


37 posted on 08/22/2012 6:58:53 AM PDT by Thank You Rush
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To: LucianOfSamasota
One thing is sure. 0blahblah is definitely not a Muslim.

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38 posted on 08/22/2012 7:03:56 AM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: LucianOfSamasota

Jesus said that by one’s actions you can determine if one is a Christian. Obama fails that test when he champions the murder of babies, even the poor little ones who could live after a botched abortion. No Christian is that cruel toward “the least of these.”


39 posted on 08/22/2012 7:17:04 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: LucianOfSamasota
Unfortunately, part of Mormon Bishop Romney's mission in running for president, is that he does want to persuade the world that his religion is Christian.
40 posted on 08/22/2012 7:25:43 AM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP goes for it's "conservative" Presidential candidates.)
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To: LucianOfSamasota
Obama is not a Christian. He does not know the Lord. He does not serve the Lord. He does not love the Lord. If you have any doubt about those statements, read the following excellent three-part article at American Thinker by Alexander LaBrecque.

Obama's Religious Ruse: 'I've Always Been a Christian
Obama's Religious Ruse: His 'Conversion'
Obama's Religious Ruse: The Cult of the Marxist Messiah

Here's a small excerpt from the first article:

In 2004 Obama was interviewed by Cathleen Falsani of the Chicago Sun-Times. He told her that Christians "may presume a set of doctrines" that "I don't necessarily subscribe to." Elaborating, he trivialized the core of the Christian faith by which believers live: "If all it took was someone proclaiming I believe [in] Jesus Christ and that he died for my sins, and that's all there was to it, people wouldn't have to keep coming to church, would they." Immediately Falsani asked him if he believes in heaven, and the skeptic mocked: "Do I believe in the harps and clouds and wings?" "I don't presume to have knowledge of what happens after I die," or whether rewards for one's conduct will be in this life only or in a hereafter. He identified "heaven" with feeling that he cares for his daughters and that they are learning from him his mother's values. In the same way, sin - inconsistency with his values - is "its own punishment."[13]

(...)

In the light of the foregoing we can better discern from Obama's statements what he actually thinks about Jesus. According to Falsani's transcript, when she asked Obama, "Who's Jesus to you?" he laughed nervously and replied: "Right. Jesus is an historical figure for me, and he's also a bridge between God and man, in the Christian faith, and one that I think is powerful precisely because he serves as that means of us reaching something higher. And he's also a wonderful teacher. I think it's important for all of us, of whatever faith,to have teachers in the flesh and also teachers in history."[38]

41 posted on 08/22/2012 7:27:15 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan
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To: LucianOfSamasota
By their fruits, you will know them.

Nobama has communicated quite well what and who he is.

42 posted on 08/22/2012 7:34:27 AM PDT by Tolkien (Grace is the Essence of the Gospel; Gratitude is the Essence of Ethics.)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

“Mitt Romney tells skeptics of his faith: “I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God and the Savior of mankind”

Not the whole story, as usual.


43 posted on 08/22/2012 7:34:30 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ("I'm comfortable with a Romney win." - Pres. Jimmy Carter)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
“Mitt Romney tells skeptics of his faith: “I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God and the Savior of mankind”

Romney's definition of Jesus, God, and Savior is totally different than orthodox Christianity and the Scripture; and I don't mean the book of Mormon, Doctrines and Covenants, and Pearl of Great Price.

44 posted on 08/22/2012 7:39:06 AM PDT by Tolkien (Grace is the Essence of the Gospel; Gratitude is the Essence of Ethics.)
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To: LucianOfSamasota
"Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect,

1 Pet 3:15

45 posted on 08/22/2012 7:39:57 AM PDT by showme_the_Glory (ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

Real Christians don’t have to “convince” folks they are Christians. Jesus said that His disciples would be known by two things: Their love for the brethren, and their fruits.

So - using that, lets measure up President Obama...


46 posted on 08/22/2012 7:49:01 AM PDT by TheBattman (Isn't the lesser evil... still evil?)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
Elaborating, he trivialized the core of the Christian faith by which believers live: "If all it took was someone proclaiming I believe [in] Jesus Christ and that he died for my sins, and that's all there was to it, people wouldn't have to keep coming to church, would they."

That is a display of astounding ignorance on so many levels it would take a doctoral thesis to examine them all. It should be obvious to all, Christian and non-Christian alike, that that is a rejection of the very basis of Christianity. It also reveals that he has Zer0 understanding of ANY and EVERY spiritual path.

His ego is one for the record books. Narcissus, you have been dethroned!

47 posted on 08/22/2012 8:05:23 AM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: TigersEye

Amen. I have absolutely no doubt that he does not love or serve the Lord. His answers in that interview reveal his heart to those who do know the Lord. When asked who Jesus is to me, I most certainly would not refer to him as a historical figure. He is my Lord and Saviour.


48 posted on 08/22/2012 8:17:20 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Saviour = Savior


49 posted on 08/22/2012 8:19:25 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan
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To: ansel12

“Unfortunately, part of Mormon Bishop Romney’s mission in running for president, is that he does want to persuade the world that his religion is Christian.”

So you would prefer 4 more years of an America-hating Muslim-hiding-in-plain sight than a patriotic American who happens to be a mormon.

God save America from 4 more years of BO.


50 posted on 08/22/2012 6:30:50 PM PDT by IWONDR
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