Skip to comments.Obama: Not my job to convince folks I’m a Christian
Posted on 08/22/2012 5:39:45 AM PDT by LucianOfSamasota
President Barack Obama says convincing doubters that he is a Christian isn't part of his job description. Mitt Romney tells skeptics of his faith: "I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God and the Savior of mankind" and pleads for tolerance.
The two White House contenders addressed the issue of persistent questioning of their religious beliefs as part of a wide-ranging exchange with Washington National Cathedral's Cathedral Age. The magazine asked Obama and Romney to weigh in on the role of faith in public life and politics as well as in their personal lives.
Public opinion polls have repeatedly found large numbers of Americans who say they think Obama, a practicing Christian, is secretly a Muslim. And some conservative Christian groups reject Romney's Mormon faith.
So "how do you respond" to those who "have questioned the sincerity of your faith and your Christianity?" the magazine asked.
"You know, there's not much I can do about it," Obama said.
(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...
But I CAN see whether his policies and positions support a Christian perspective:
*Christ tells us to give generously to those in need; but he doesn't say to take enviously from those who have abundance.
*Christ teaches that barbarian or Greek, male or female, free or slave, we are all the same in Him; Christ does not incite racial tension.
*Christ teaches to lift up the banner of Christ, and He will draw all men unto Him; Christ doesn't teach that we should glorify Islam or other false religions, and He doesn't teach many paths to God.
*Abortion is not a Christian value.
*Christians may not bear false witness to win political contests.
*Christians cannot give kickbacks and payoffs to their political supporters, nor can they engage in voter fraud.
I guess I would like to see a man stand for some Christian position, if I am to believe he is a deep and committed follower of Christ. As far as redistribution of wealth, its hard for me to see how a philosophy designed (by Marx) to replace Christianity (which Marx considered a great evil) can beheld up as Christian virtue, even though a lot of people today seem to conflate redistribution with Biblical charity.
Is nothing his job?
Crap, if you looked at it on paper, Obama is the highest profile "unemployed" person in this country. He hasn't worked a single day since February 2009.
You did everything you could during the election to prove you have no belief in anything that Christians would recognize as being Christian and did everything since then to offend us.
No, you are not a Christian....and I rarely make that call.
As if that were possible, anyway.
"Now step aside or play through, I'm busy here".
Sorry barry. Those who know the truth know you ain’t.
It would appear he needs more practice.
Of course, so do I...
No one who is really a Christian, no matter what they call themselves, says “I’m a Christian but/and there are other/many ways to God/Salvation.”
No, if you’re a Christian, you reject any “other way” as bogus and anti-Christian.
From the way his regime has governed the last 3+ years, 0bama, the "Community Organizer", really doesn't know ANYTHING about what his job is, and is a CHRISTIAN for political purposes only!
Based on the evidence you present, Obama is not guilty.
We all know how you like to avoid hard work...
Everytime he blames Bush, he’s admitting that he’s not up to the presidency. “It’s not my job” and “it’s Bush’s fault”. This is a platform to campaign on? Is this really how low the bar’s been set for him?
Muslim ego, at that.
“Not my job to convince folks Im a Christian”
WTF!!!!...You stupid SOB... you took your oath of office on a BIBLE!!!!
Sounds a lot like his answer to "What superhero power would you most like to have?" I wonder which answer he believes in most?
Why isn’t he using the same burden of proof for Romney’s tax records. If it’s the accuser’s burden to prove Obama isn’t a christian then it is the accuser’s burden to prove Romney didn’t pay taxes.
I am tired of these Alinsky assaults from the left. Time to ram Alinsky down their throats for a change.
uhhh....Mr. President, the job of a Christian IS to go out into the world and “convince folks” that you ARE a Christian. Every day.
nobama commented fully some time back on all questions asked of him: “Can’t I just eat my waffle?” What a poseur loser.
YOU ARE A BIG FAT MUSLIM LIAR~~~
It is no more a man's job to prove he's a woman, or a woman's job to prove she's a man than it is for a muslim to prove it's a Christian.
Thank you Miss Baron for teaching me to read with understanding.
And by their works you shall know them....
He is really thin skined aint he
This half breed mongrel is at least consistent.
FACT, 100% provable: He stated his Islamic faith in an ABC interview and the interviewer had to correct him that he was a Christian. So, who do we believe Barry #1 or Barry #2 (corrected by ABC News)?
FACT 100% provable: In his Senate campaign, his campaign literature touted his Kenyan birthplace but because that would have prevented him from becoming president he now claims to be born in the USA using a BC so doctored that ANY person in ANY pre-press operation at ANY newspaper or commercial printer in the country could plainly see was a forgery.
FACT, 100% provable: He told us if we wanted to know where his political leanings were to simply look at the people he surrounded himself with. Well, just how many SELF-AVOWED, Marxists, communists, socialists surrounding the president, does the media need to say, “Mr. President you are a Marxist”?
At this point, I’d be happy if he’d just be able to prove he was American.
LOL! Me too.
Everything is “not my job” and “above my pay grade” with this clown. We should be thankful it is or he’d be destroying the country at a faster rate. If he wants his job to be playing golf then go for it.
We all know you're a Saudi project.
Notice how the writer slips in the “a practicing Christian” into the article. This happenes all the time, as if we are too stupid to not know that Obama says what he thinks we want to ehar, but does whatever he wants - and that is not to behave as a Christian.
These so-called journalists are likely not Christians, and so they cannot or will not be able to really spot a true Christian. A Christian needs to do more than say he is a Christian. For instance, maybe a bit of celebration of the Christmas holy day would be in order????
Americans: Not our job to assume you're a Christian.
(that would require faith)
The POS who's living in our White House is using Taqiyya, a form of religious dissimulation,or a legal dispensation whereby a believing individual can deny his faith.
In other words, he's a filthy liar and a very devout Muslim who picks pig meat out of soups.
reminder: even dishonest abe was not averse to frequently using the truth when it would seem to benefit himself....
“By their fruits you shall know them.” Does anyone doubt Billy Graham’s Christianity?
Put Obama next to Billy Graham and one can immediately discern Obama is no Christian.
I don’t think he is much of anything frankly. He is more like Karl Marx than he knows.
“By their fruits ye shall know them”
His actions and beliefs tell us what he is. The bozo doesn’t have to convince us of anything! We’re not HIS voters so we’re smarter than he thinks we are.
Jesus said that by one’s actions you can determine if one is a Christian. Obama fails that test when he champions the murder of babies, even the poor little ones who could live after a botched abortion. No Christian is that cruel toward “the least of these.”
Here's a small excerpt from the first article:
In 2004 Obama was interviewed by Cathleen Falsani of the Chicago Sun-Times. He told her that Christians "may presume a set of doctrines" that "I don't necessarily subscribe to." Elaborating, he trivialized the core of the Christian faith by which believers live: "If all it took was someone proclaiming I believe [in] Jesus Christ and that he died for my sins, and that's all there was to it, people wouldn't have to keep coming to church, would they." Immediately Falsani asked him if he believes in heaven, and the skeptic mocked: "Do I believe in the harps and clouds and wings?" "I don't presume to have knowledge of what happens after I die," or whether rewards for one's conduct will be in this life only or in a hereafter. He identified "heaven" with feeling that he cares for his daughters and that they are learning from him his mother's values. In the same way, sin - inconsistency with his values - is "its own punishment."
In the light of the foregoing we can better discern from Obama's statements what he actually thinks about Jesus. According to Falsani's transcript, when she asked Obama, "Who's Jesus to you?" he laughed nervously and replied: "Right. Jesus is an historical figure for me, and he's also a bridge between God and man, in the Christian faith, and one that I think is powerful precisely because he serves as that means of us reaching something higher. And he's also a wonderful teacher. I think it's important for all of us, of whatever faith,to have teachers in the flesh and also teachers in history."
Nobama has communicated quite well what and who he is.
“Mitt Romney tells skeptics of his faith: “I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God and the Savior of mankind”
Not the whole story, as usual.
Romney's definition of Jesus, God, and Savior is totally different than orthodox Christianity and the Scripture; and I don't mean the book of Mormon, Doctrines and Covenants, and Pearl of Great Price.
1 Pet 3:15
Real Christians don’t have to “convince” folks they are Christians. Jesus said that His disciples would be known by two things: Their love for the brethren, and their fruits.
So - using that, lets measure up President Obama...
Elaborating, he trivialized the core of the Christian faith by which believers live: "If all it took was someone proclaiming I believe [in] Jesus Christ and that he died for my sins, and that's all there was to it, people wouldn't have to keep coming to church, would they."
That is a display of astounding ignorance on so many levels it would take a doctoral thesis to examine them all. It should be obvious to all, Christian and non-Christian alike, that that is a rejection of the very basis of Christianity. It also reveals that he has Zer0 understanding of ANY and EVERY spiritual path.
His ego is one for the record books. Narcissus, you have been dethroned!
Amen. I have absolutely no doubt that he does not love or serve the Lord. His answers in that interview reveal his heart to those who do know the Lord. When asked who Jesus is to me, I most certainly would not refer to him as a historical figure. He is my Lord and Saviour.
Saviour = Savior
“Unfortunately, part of Mormon Bishop Romney’s mission in running for president, is that he does want to persuade the world that his religion is Christian.”
So you would prefer 4 more years of an America-hating Muslim-hiding-in-plain sight than a patriotic American who happens to be a mormon.
God save America from 4 more years of BO.