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PC Kills American troops: More than 100 unarmed already murdered by Muslim 'friends'
Jewish World Review ^ | 8/22/2012 | Arnold Ahlert

Posted on 08/22/2012 6:36:10 AM PDT by Former Fetus

As I said in a previous column, one could be forgiven for believing that political correctness is only one step removed from insanity. Unfortunately, as the latest report from Afghanistan reveals, it can also be deadly.

Last week, in a move the Obama administration would undoubtedly like their useful idiot buddies in the media to ignore as much as possible, a long-standing order was reversed: U.S. troops are now required to carry loaded weapons at all times while on base.

In other words, prior to this new directive, troops were required to remove the magazines from their weapons while quartered at bases with Afghans they were training to become policemen and soldiers. Policemen and soldiers who will allegedly pick up the slack and defend their country after U.S. forces withdraw in 2014--as they are currently scheduled to do.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; afghanwar; loaded; pc; roe; weapons
Time to remove certain people from office, and charge them with treason.
1 posted on 08/22/2012 6:36:20 AM PDT by Former Fetus
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To: Former Fetus

Unlawful orders should never be followed! Good lord!


2 posted on 08/22/2012 6:38:27 AM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: Former Fetus

3 posted on 08/22/2012 6:41:17 AM PDT by icwhatudo (This is not a choice between Romney&Reagan-Its between Romney & most radical leftist Pres in history)
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To: icwhatudo

What is political correctness, and who is responsible for it?
It is important to note that political correctness derives from Cultural Marxism. This connection is expounded below:
If we look at it analytically, if we look at it historically, we quickly find out exactly what it is. Political Correctness is cultural Marxism. It is Marxism translated from economic into cultural terms. It is an effort that goes back not to the 1960s and the hippies and the peace movement, but back to World War I.

http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/young-conservative-and-spicy/2011/nov/8/political-correctness-perpetuating-americas-demise/


4 posted on 08/22/2012 6:42:28 AM PDT by bigtoona
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To: Former Fetus

Finally someone has pointed out the obvious. When are we going to stop coddling the criminals? All law enforcement should be armed with weapons bigger and better than any criminal can get their hands on. Whoever gave the order to disarm our troops should be hung in a public square.


5 posted on 08/22/2012 6:42:31 AM PDT by katwoman5779
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To: Former Fetus
Time to remove certain people from office, and charge them with treason.

Way overdue. Muslims will never give us peace.

6 posted on 08/22/2012 6:42:53 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: Former Fetus
Was there not a single General or other high-ranking officer who was willing to put his career on the line to publicly denounce the previous policy???

Disgraceful.

7 posted on 08/22/2012 6:43:23 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Former Fetus

“...Muslim ‘friends”

What are THOSE?


8 posted on 08/22/2012 6:47:00 AM PDT by SMARTY ("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
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To: katwoman5779
Obama's campaign accused Romney of causing the death of woman by cancer. That was a lie!

Obama's policy on the carrying of arms by our military has caused over 100 deaths. This is the truth.

9 posted on 08/22/2012 6:54:12 AM PDT by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Mud Man, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist. THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR!)
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To: Texas Eagle

Remember MG Peter Fuller? The Dep Commander in Afghanistan who was relieved after he had the temerity to say that Afghan leaders were “isolated from reality”. He made this comment in an interview with Politico when Kharzi said that Afghanistan would side with Pakistan is a war against the US.

In today’s Army you are either PC or you are gone. MG (Ret) Pete Fuller is now actively employed in the private sector.


10 posted on 08/22/2012 6:57:18 AM PDT by O6ret
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To: Former Fetus; 444Flyer

Firing squad at dawn...facing east. ALL of them!
GAH!!! I despise these people!!!
McChrystal allowed this and so did Petraeus. Damn them both to hell.


11 posted on 08/22/2012 6:57:26 AM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: Former Fetus
PC Kills American troops

In this case, PC rises to the point of treason and collaboration, however the overall fact is that PC kills everything except PC.

12 posted on 08/22/2012 6:59:36 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Former Fetus

Islam is a religion of Peace - the peace of the grave.


13 posted on 08/22/2012 6:59:53 AM PDT by LucianOfSamasota (Tanstaafl - its not just for breakfast anymore...)
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To: Former Fetus

Any AMERICAN military man or women places top value on the element of surprise.

Communist-in-Chief Obama NEVER has put value on the element of surprise, except to seal his personal documents to show that he is an illegal alien.


14 posted on 08/22/2012 7:07:59 AM PDT by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: icwhatudo

The women were not there to be PC. They were soldiers there to do a mission only females could perform in that culture.

The female troops (Lioness, and later called Cultural Support Teams) had the mission of assisting special ops during village stabilization and intelliegnce gathering, with the female troops securing women and children and interrogating the women (searching them if necessary) and obtaining information from the women about the enemy activities in their areas.

You think male troops could have done that in that culture, where culturally, 50% of the population was off limits to being searched or interrogated by men?

Their role complemented the male troops doing the same with the muslim males

The Lioness and later CST mission is/was valuable and necessary in that culture. The photo caption is demeaning of brave Americans who happen to be female as well as military


15 posted on 08/22/2012 7:09:36 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: O6ret
Kudos to MG Fuller.

He's probably the only officer who sleeps well at night.

At least he should be.

16 posted on 08/22/2012 7:11:46 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: silverleaf

“The photo caption is demeaning of brave Americans who happen to be female as well as military”

You did notice that the male has his head protected with a helmet and the females have those scarves? The caption is accurate.


17 posted on 08/22/2012 7:16:07 AM PDT by Proud2BeRight
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To: bigtoona

Thank you for #4, I should have known, but in fact, I learned an important fact.


18 posted on 08/22/2012 7:17:15 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: silverleaf
The photo caption is demeaning of brave Americans who happen to be female

I don't think the purpose of the caption was to demean female soldiers but the fact that they were ordered to go out wearing hijabs instead of the appropriate combat helmets!

19 posted on 08/22/2012 7:18:38 AM PDT by Former Fetus (Saved by grace through faith)
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To: Former Fetus

The Obama administration has set our troops up to be killed due to their hatred of the military and the values that they stand for. But let us not forget that the Bush administration actually prosecuted our troops for defending themselves. It’s time to get rid of all the beltway elites who want to fight a war without causing any unnecessary casualties to the enemy.


20 posted on 08/22/2012 7:21:31 AM PDT by bonehead4freedom
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To: silverleaf

I agree with all you say.

However that does not preclude them from being set up to be murdered by the soetoro enemy any more or less than it does for their male counterparts.


21 posted on 08/22/2012 7:24:54 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Former Fetus

War with Islam.

The muzzies are insuring that it’s not an “if,” but a “when.”

Sad, but I’m afraid it’s true.

So, with demo-idiot leadership, we’ll lose.

With repulsican leadership....we still might lose.

What a world.


22 posted on 08/22/2012 7:24:54 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Da Coyote
You mean with islamist leadership we lose.
23 posted on 08/22/2012 7:31:12 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: silverleaf
"You think male troops could have done that in that culture, where culturally, 50% of the population was off limits to being searched or interrogated by men?"

True from a standpoint of COIN but for a side that wants to be victorious by establishing their will, pure unmitigated bull feces.

Men can't interrogate females over there, who the hell cares. The fact is Afghan nationals do not respect us because we are too soft. So much disinformation over there it's not even funny. This strategy does not work, period. It is down right embarrassing how these Afghan fools are draining the resources of this country all because you think that type of submission works.
24 posted on 08/22/2012 7:38:29 AM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: Texas Eagle

MG(Ret) Pete Fuller...American patriot.


25 posted on 08/22/2012 7:42:26 AM PDT by O6ret
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To: Former Fetus

PC has nothing to do with it. The goal for both the Obama and the Bush administrations has been to train the Afghans to take care of their own security. You don’t do that without arming them. But it’s clear that a significant minority of those Afghans are untrustworthy and are turning the weapons on our troops. So then the only rational alternative is to cut our losses, get the hell out, and let the Afghans sink or swim on their own. I wish I could say that Romney would pursue a course like that but the sad fact is that a President Romney will continue down the same rathole that Obama’s taken us.


26 posted on 08/22/2012 7:43:23 AM PDT by Delhi Rebels (There was a row in Silver Street - the regiments was out.)
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To: Former Fetus
Last week, in a move the Obama administration would undoubtedly like their useful idiot buddies in the media to ignore as much as possible, a long-standing order was reversed: U.S. troops are now required to carry loaded weapons at all times while on base.

It's time for members of the press to grow up... get real. Walk into the world and open your friggin eyes. When most of us think of members of the press as Obama's useful idiot buddies in the media it's not a good sign. Are you there New York Times? Are you there LA Times? Hello... Anyone home? Your credibility and ability to stay in business are on the line. The country needs you to start acting like journalists and not like stenographers for dem PR firms bigs..

27 posted on 08/22/2012 7:47:01 AM PDT by GOPJ (Politics is war without bloodshed, and war is politics with bloodshed. - Mao Tse Tung. We're at war)
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To: silverleaf

Btw, please explain how we could let some goat herders get close enough to launch an attack, after 10 years of supposibly war, on one of the largest staging FOBs in Afghan that sent a loud message to the Joint Chief, lol?

We don’t even want to aggressively secure the perimeter because the powers that be fear collateral damage. We are just babysitters swatting mosquitoes over there, pathetic.


28 posted on 08/22/2012 7:47:51 AM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: Former Fetus

They have always been there. I go back to 1968 and 1969. Different circumstances, but the same b.s.


29 posted on 08/22/2012 7:54:25 AM PDT by Parmy
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To: rollo tomasi

Reminds me:

“Pretty soon you get tired of swatting flies and you have to go for the manure heap.”

General Curtis LeMay


30 posted on 08/22/2012 8:02:48 AM PDT by SMARTY ("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
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To: Former Fetus

Sorry to disagree, but it is pretty common sense that even in a combat zone, on a base, personal issue weapons need to be unloaded, except by those on guard duty, prisoner control, and other such tasks. If things are really testy, then officers, and some senior NCO’s, can carry loaded sidearms.

Why? Because the vast amount of activities on a military base are either “personal maintenance”, like sleeping, showering and eating; equipment construction, maintenance and repair; or office/administrative. In all of these things, lugging a weapon around with you is either a nuisance or a safety hazard.

So the logical thing to do is for some personnel to have their weapons and ammo in a nearby locker; other personnel to carry their unloaded weapons, with ammo nearby; and a limited number of personnel, especially on the perimeter, with loaded weapons.

I’ll add that accidents and safety are a big priority on base, because they result in a lot of injuries and some fatalities. The accidental discharge of a firearm on post will get somebody in a lot of trouble.

For safety, for example, a properly arranged motor pool is designed to have POL in one area, paint in another, compressed gases and tire inflation in another, solvent tanks in another, etc., because if one ignites or explodes, they don’t want it taking the others as well, turning a fire into a disaster. Just the tip of the iceberg of their safety regs, all of which were learned the hard way.

And, I might add, soldiers who go to a motor pool often have to clear and check their guns at the door, do their business, then pick them up on the way out.

NOW, THIS BEING SAID, the problem with “green on blue” is not one of p.c., but that our soldiers are not properly screening the Afghans.

And I am rather amazed that the numerous psychological tricks that can be used to tell if someone is a rat are not being used.

A lot of it is common sense, giving them a situation where they think they can betray you and maybe others, and make good their escape, but they actually cannot. Like loading a gun in front of them with two real bullets and the rest dummies, then firing it twice and handing it to them.

Importantly, they also don’t know they are being covered by a sniper, and if they do try to betray you, it is the last thing they do.

This is not a game where they can be captured. If they try to kill you, they must be killed, or else that trick can no longer be used. In the report, it is noted solely by saying that they were killed in a “training accident”, when they “mishandled a loaded weapon”.


31 posted on 08/22/2012 8:07:07 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Former Fetus

In Iraq it was a real no no if you did not have your weapon on your person. At night it was at arms length from my bunk.


32 posted on 08/22/2012 8:17:56 AM PDT by jesseam (eliev)
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To: MestaMachine
They certainly have the blood of our troops on their hands for aiding and abetting the enemy with their insane PC policy. They and any others that Obama planted in the Pentagon who put our troops in harm's way.

How much more of this news can we take?!!!

Three more of ours sacrificed.

Aug.13, 2012

http://www.nctimes.com/news/local/military/military-marines-slain-by-afghan-policeman-were-from-camp-pendleton/article_f7c65ef8-62de-5f6d-a95d-0eb5f292439c.html

33 posted on 08/22/2012 9:15:41 AM PDT by 444Flyer (Psalm 139)
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To: cpdiii; All

you post:

“Obama’s policy on the carrying of arms by our military has caused over 100 deaths. This is the truth”

only a tiny part of it.

Where have “y’all” been?

Right out of the shute as pres, in the springof 2009, this TIC - traitor in chief - issued new ROE (Rules of Engagement that gave the advatage to his firends, the Taliban.

The Taliban get first shot - can’t shoot until you see a gun, no matter how close they ge and no matter that you KNOW they are tallie.

Often DENIED air cover when ambushed, pinned down and getting killed becsuse “there MIGHT be civilian in the hills somewhere”

they GAVE- GIFTED - hard won/hard sacrified fire bases back to the Talies - complete WTIH ammo, rockets, misslies etc - just pulled our troops out and gave them to the tallies -who bragged they’d used the ammo to kill our soldiers - and they did.

In 2009, due to the TIC’s new ROE, the number of our KIA’s DOUBLED from the previous highest year. in 2010, they TRIPLED. In 2011 - almost quadrupled...and the media is MUM- ant the American people, including most on FR, have been too busy watching Idol, etc, to inform themselves. (Flame away. For the past 4 years, I have posted and posted info, charts, clips - and lucky to get a handful of Freepers who gave a rats rump - but post a link with “O.J.” or “Jessica” os some such - and the posts remarks are off and running.

ONCE again, here’s a couple clips for the one or two of you who might care to know a tiny bit of what this TIC has done to our troops -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WamBeYQeRvE

and below - a clip about the small platoon of Sky Soldiers that pickaxed that firebase out of the mt top - and spent 15 MONTHS in - lost many brothers, were in over 1,000 firefigths - UN HEARD of - only to see their TIC hand it back as a gift to the enemy - along with plenty of munitions to use on our troops

This is a small clip for the documentary on our troops who fought and bled on that fire base “RESTREPO” - only to see it gifted to the enemy - the movie is availbele on Nat Geo., Netflix and on DVD - should anyone give a damn

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8YudXNtmoA

below: just ONE example of our troops underfire being denied air cover - but this time, they had a photographer with them- so it got documented...

“WE pinned down”

Here’s a platoon, pinned down, 4 dead, the rest soon will be - and would ‘ve been were in not for a soldier who disobeyd orders and took his men down to rescue them - they were DENIED air cover - duto the TIC’s ROE -

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2009/09/08/75036/were-pinned-down-4-us-marines.html

The above clips are just the tip of the iceburg of what this TIC has done to our troops - and who is standing up for them?

Don’t bother replying to my post - I wouldn’t want to disturb any of you...


34 posted on 08/22/2012 9:36:38 AM PDT by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does....)
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To: maine-iac7

I am well aware of what you posted. Thank you very much for posting the list of crimes against our military. The list is long and it is real. This administration does not give one good damn about the loss of lives so long as there is no political downside for him. He is evil.

Thank you again.


35 posted on 08/22/2012 2:20:45 PM PDT by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Mud Man, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist. THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR!)
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To: silverleaf

The caption wasn’t about the Lionesses, it was about the enforced hijab rather than protective helmets.


36 posted on 08/22/2012 10:18:24 PM PDT by Fire_on_High (WTB new tagline, PST!)
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To: Fire_on_High

That I concur with!

traumatic brain injury from bullet or shrapnel does not select by sex


37 posted on 08/23/2012 6:37:32 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: Former Fetus

US death toll in Afghanistan reaches 2,000

Updated: 8/23/2012 6:58:43 AM
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NEW YORK (WLS) - It’s very possible that the 2,000th U.S. service member to die in the war in Afghanistan did so at the hands of an Afghan soldier.

The New York Times reports that the death toll of American forces reached 2,000 late last week at a time when “insider” attacks were taking the lives of U.S. soldiers.

According to the Times analysis, over half of the U.S. fatalities in Afghanistan occurred during the past 27 months. That’s the period that President Obama ordered troop levels bolstered from 67,000 to 100,000 to combat a resurgent Taliban.

http://www.wlsam.com/Article.asp?id=2518674&spid=


38 posted on 08/23/2012 8:12:40 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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