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Romney says to lay out comprehensive energy plan
Reuters ^ | Aug 22, 2012 | Steve Holland

Posted on 08/22/2012 6:42:38 AM PDT by thackney

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To: cripplecreek
and the one thing I actually like about the smart grid is the ability to feed electricity into it from multiple locations.

We have been doing that for more than 100 years. A smart grid is not required to accomplish this. We already had a network system.

21 posted on 08/22/2012 7:25:20 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney

The problem with Romney is that he is a toe-dipper. He never sticks his neck out, always plays it safe, never fully engages, and hopes somehow it will all be bright and sunny the next day.

IOW, Romney is a pleaser, not a leader. Thus, he is easily swayed by those around him.

Ryan has helped Romney put some fire in his belly, but Ryan plays it safe too, as his Ryan Budget will balance when Ryan is 60 years old (in 2030), IF all of his assumptions play out as predicted.

T. Boone Pickens is basically a tax-money hustler for money-pit ideas, such as Federal funding for Nation-wide, natural gas stations for trucks, that the Free Market does not deem profitable. If he gets Romney’s ear, then our 16 Trillion dollar National Debt will go straight up.

The Socialist term “Energy Policy” is code for Central Government Control of anything that uses fuel to do work in the USA. Romney, as a pleaser, is vulnerable to these feel-good ideas that the Liberal Agenda Media has been promoting since 1973.

Can Romney/Ryan avoid turning the USA into an European Socialist Sandbox dependent on the whims of PC Politicians in DC?

Downsize our millstone, anti-job Federal agencies, and I might become a little more optimistic about getting America back on the right track.

‘Polish up the brass buttons on’ our Energy Policy, and we are right back in a Gilbert and Sullivan Political Reality, so comfortable to tax-hustlers, the Media, and politicians who know nothing about business.


22 posted on 08/22/2012 7:50:43 AM PDT by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: Graewoulf
The problem with Romney is that he is a toe-dipper.

One of the many problems with Romney. I am not a fan, but since he is our candidate, I am trying to learn more and share what I learn here.

23 posted on 08/22/2012 8:00:45 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: cripplecreek

Hydroelectric power is the original form of solar power, and it has the ability to store energy for later use. I live near the Mc Nary dam that’s on the Columbia river on Oregon, and for about a 100ft. drop in elevation, they can generate close to a gigawatt of power, including spillover and operating the locks and fish ladders. Oh, and this dam was built in the 1950’s. Smaller dams, all tied to the grid and controlled remotely, could easily beat anything windmills can turn out.


24 posted on 08/22/2012 8:06:35 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: factoryrat
A lot of the dams in this country were once local power producers but the big electric companies bought them up and decommissioned them for centralized power production. My great grandmother's brother was a switchkeeper who maintained several small dams and their generators till they were decommissioned in the 40s and 50s.

Here is the study I mentioned upthread about the dams in Ann Arbor.

HYDROELECTRIC REDEVELOPMENT ARGO AND GEDDES DAMS FEASIBILITY STUDY (pdf)
25 posted on 08/22/2012 8:27:58 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Paine in the Neck

He’s gotta fudge “renewables”. Otherwise all those rock-ribbed Conservative farmers out in the Corn Belt will think he’s gonna end ethanol subsidies and go running to pull the lever for Obama.


26 posted on 08/22/2012 8:31:16 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: thackney

We don’t need a new “Federal Government National Energy Plan”.

We need a Federal government that quits using tax regulations and other powers of the Federal government to interfere in the fuel and energy production market space in the domestic United States economy, and gets out of the way, and allows science, and organic market economics to allow companies in the energy market space to perform as best they can - whatever best they can may mean - period, end of “National Energy Policy”.

The more Romney goes into behaving like Obama, that he’s, like Obama, the national “Wizard of Oz”, and he - simply using Federal powers differently than Obama - can manipulate the economy, the more he will simply create a different breed of crony capitalists and energy markets will still perform below their potential.

When Thomas Edison electrified Manhattan, there was no “Federal Energy Plan”, and not even a “New York State Energy Plan” or even a “New York City Energy Plan” (hell - the city fathers were sure he’d fail), and he did the whole thing on his own money - no “tax incentives”, no “subsdidies”, just a belief in what he was doing.

The nation was “stronger” in Edison’s day.


27 posted on 08/22/2012 8:57:03 AM PDT by Wuli
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Edison - electrified

A funny example you picked.

Edison tried to get his competition’s more efficient A/C power banned through legislation, and fortunately failed.

https://illumin.usc.edu/printer/166/power-wars-ac-vs-dc/


28 posted on 08/22/2012 9:14:13 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney

“Edison tried to get his competition’s more efficient A/C power banned through legislation, and fortunately failed.”

right - “legislation” was kept out of it

that does not discount his original effort sans government money or support

nor that, the nation was stronger in Edisons day, when there was no “National Energy Plan”


29 posted on 08/22/2012 9:24:43 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: thackney; All
So the democrat can be unopposed on the ballot? That is your strategy? The Missouri filing deadline was yesterday.

Actually, Akin has until Sept 24 or 25 to withdrawal from the ballot, pay for the cost of reprinting and allow the party committee to name a replacement.

Missouri is not locked into Akin vs McCaskill if he does the right thing before that date. It's NOT over.

MO Law

30 posted on 08/22/2012 9:28:48 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Election night is 75 days away.)
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To: thackney

This SHOULD be easy.

Drill here.
Drill now.
Build more refineries.
Mine more coal.
Build more nukes.
Build fast breeders to convert nuclear waste back into fuel.
Defund all these crap “Green” initiatives and tell them to go find real investors.


31 posted on 08/22/2012 10:54:52 AM PDT by Little Ray (AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: Little Ray

Pretty good list, but we already have a surplus of refinery capacity. We have been refining more than we use (and exporting the surplus) for a while now.

We haven’t built a new refinery in ~ 3 decades, but we spent most of those years expanding and upgrading the ones we already have.


32 posted on 08/22/2012 10:58:23 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney

I guess I’m still reeling from the Hurricane Katrina era when enough refinery capacity was knocked out that I had trouble getting gas; partly because of the idiotic rules regarding gas types.


33 posted on 08/23/2012 6:00:22 AM PDT by Little Ray (AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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