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Plainfield police ask to store guns in schools (Illinois)
chicagotribune.com ^ | Aug 22, 2012

Posted on 08/22/2012 7:34:01 AM PDT by KeyLargo

chicagotribune.com

Plainfield police ask to store guns in schools

Associated Press

8:31 AM CDT, August 22, 2012

Police in Plainfield are asking officials for permission to store rifles in the town's high schools so they'll be ready if violence breaks out.

The Plainfield School Board is scheduled to consider the request at the board's meeting next week.

Plainfield Police Chief John Konopek wants the district to install gun safes at its four high schools so the school resource officer can store a rifle. Konopek said having the extra weapon on hand would be useful “if a situation involving a shooter arises.”

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; gunfreezone; guns; schools

1 posted on 08/22/2012 7:34:14 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo

Well, so long as they don’t leave it in that bin with all the hockey sticks in the PE teacher’s office.


2 posted on 08/22/2012 7:40:02 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: KeyLargo
No, no, no!
You just have to pass another law banning weapons from schools - that keeps the bad guys away - don't you see?

You just need more gun control!

What are we in - the twilight zone?

3 posted on 08/22/2012 7:42:04 AM PDT by grobdriver (Proud Member, Party of No! Nobama, No Way, No How!)
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To: Boogieman
But, but, what will the teachers say about this?
4 posted on 08/22/2012 7:44:20 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo

Sorry this makes no sense to me.

Carry the guns in the squad car.

If you store the guns in the school the kids will know where the guns are.

If the kids plan something they will plan to disable the safe first thing and guns you can’t get to are like having no guns at all.

The only kind of issue this is useful for is something spontaneous which is unlikely to require extra weapons.


5 posted on 08/22/2012 7:45:37 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Pontiac

Sounds like a set-up for Fast and Furious III or whatever we’re up to now.

(Alleged) kids break in trying to steal guns, everyone is furious guns are so easy to obtain, whoever thought this up gets early retirement and the Obamaloonbots scream for more gun control.

“Under the radar” Hussein.


6 posted on 08/22/2012 7:51:23 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: KeyLargo

My JROTC had an arms room stocked with both funtional (rifle and pistol teams) and non-funtional (precision drill) rifles.

Oh, and there was no security officer.


7 posted on 08/22/2012 7:52:07 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: Pontiac

“Sorry this makes no sense to me.

Carry the guns in the squad car.”

Exactly what I thought when I read the article.


8 posted on 08/22/2012 7:54:34 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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9 posted on 08/22/2012 7:54:44 AM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Pontiac

So they could break into the squad car parked in the parking.

Even better arm some teachers also so the bad guys don’t know who is armed.

Also teach some of the staff to use the rifle so when the bad guys shoot the frist uniform they see others can take care of the bad guys.


10 posted on 08/22/2012 7:55:10 AM PDT by riverrunner
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To: KeyLargo

Teaching the four “R’s”...

reading
riting
rithmatic
rifling


11 posted on 08/22/2012 7:55:49 AM PDT by moovova (OMG...Obama Must Go)
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To: KeyLargo

The smart ones will probably ask if they can have the combination to the gun safe, so they can retrieve the rifle if the officer can’t. Who cares what the stupid ones will say?


12 posted on 08/22/2012 8:00:15 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: KeyLargo

Joe Friday had the answer sixty years ago: take the gun with you. What’s so difficult to understand?


13 posted on 08/22/2012 8:04:58 AM PDT by righttackle44 (I may not be much, but I raised a United States Marine.)
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To: KeyLargo

How about just put a Dunkin Donuts store in every school parking lot. That way if you need lots of firepower, just turn on the “Hot Donuts” sign and the place will turn into a sea of blue, complete with all their gunz.


14 posted on 08/22/2012 8:23:08 AM PDT by wrench
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To: Pontiac
Sorry this makes no sense to me.

Carry the guns in the squad car.

Good point but I'd expect that a school security officer would be driving his own vehicle back and forth to the school rather than a squad car.

15 posted on 08/22/2012 8:23:34 AM PDT by Bob
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To: taxcontrol
My JROTC had an arms room stocked with both funtional (rifle and pistol teams) and non-funtional (precision drill) rifles.

Oh, and there was no security officer.

Same here in DC public schools up until the late 60's (not sure when it stopped). The cadet was issued and drilled with a U.S. Rifle caliber .30 M1 without firing pin. After the early morning weekly drill the M1s were racked and locked by cadet officers who then presented the weapons count and keys to the reg. Army officer in charge of the program. Rifle teams used .22 cal Savage-Anschutz rifles and followed the same procedure with their weapons and ammo.

Single or pairs of BARs, carbines, Springfields were used for instructional purposes.

Our drill teams were issued Springfields with white leather slings and chromed bayonets.

As far as I know we never had a shooting, stabbing, or someone getting butt stroked. But I am sure every HS had at least one or two cadets whose attention wandered during close order drill that caught a barrel across the skull.

Now SWAT teams are called in for "finger guns".

16 posted on 08/22/2012 8:35:16 AM PDT by Covenantor ("Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
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To: taxcontrol
My JROTC had an arms room stocked with both funtional (rifle and pistol teams) and non-funtional (precision drill) rifles.

Oh, and there was no security officer.

Same here in DC public schools up until the late 60's (not sure when it stopped). The cadet was issued and drilled with a U.S. Rifle caliber .30 M1 without firing pin. After the early morning drill the M1s were racked and locked by cadet officers who then presented the weapons count and keys to the reg. Army officer in charge of the program. Rifle teams used .22 cal Savage-Anschutz rifles and followed the same procedure with their weapons and ammo.

Single or pairs of BARs, carbines, Springfields were used for instructional purposes.

Our drill teams were issued Springfields with white leather slings and chromed bayonets.

As far as I know we never had a shooting, stabbing, or someone getting butt stroked. But I am sure every HS had at least one or two cadets whose attention wandered during close order drill that caught a barrel across the skull.

Imagine that, gangs of fifteen year and older males carrying "automatic assault rifles" and parading in the streets of affluent NW Wash DC. The horror.

Now SWAT teams are called in for "finger guns".

17 posted on 08/22/2012 8:41:14 AM PDT by Covenantor ("Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
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To: taxcontrol
My JROTC had an arms room stocked with both funtional (rifle and pistol teams) and non-funtional (precision drill) rifles.

Oh, and there was no security officer.

Same here in DC public schools up until the late 60's (not sure when it stopped). The cadet was issued and drilled with a U.S. Rifle caliber .30 M1 without firing pin. After the early morning drill the M1s were racked and locked by cadet officers who then presented the weapons count and keys to the reg. Army officer in charge of the program. Rifle teams used .22 cal Savage-Anschutz rifles and followed the same procedure with their weapons and ammo.

Single or pairs of BARs, carbines, Springfields were used for instructional purposes.

Our drill teams were issued Springfields with white leather slings and chromed bayonets.

As far as I know we never had a shooting, stabbing, or someone getting butt stroked. But I am sure every HS had at least one or two cadets whose attention wandered during close order drill that caught a barrel across the skull.

Imagine that, gangs of fifteen year and older males carrying "automatic assault rifles" and parading in the streets of affluent NW Wash DC. The horror.

Now SWAT teams are called in for "finger guns".

18 posted on 08/22/2012 8:43:42 AM PDT by Covenantor ("Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
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To: Bob

“Good point but I’d expect that a school security officer would be driving his own vehicle back and forth to the school rather than a squad car.”

None of these small suburban towns can afford a school security officer.


19 posted on 08/22/2012 8:46:06 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo

Are they preparing for a Red Dawn scenario in our future? Sure sounds like it.


20 posted on 08/22/2012 8:48:35 AM PDT by jcsjcm (This country was built on exceptionalism and individualism. In God we Trust - Laus Deo)
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To: riverrunner
So they could break into the squad car parked in the parking.

Good point. I was actually thinking of the responders to the call for help.

Any planned attack by a group would take out the resource officer first thing so him having access to a rifle would be a null issue.

Bring the rifle to the seen in a squad car.

21 posted on 08/22/2012 8:51:14 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: jcsjcm
"Are they preparing for a Red Dawn scenario in our future? Sure sounds like it."
22 posted on 08/22/2012 8:55:53 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo

Heck, that sign could be the motto for the Democratic Party.


23 posted on 08/22/2012 8:58:34 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: KeyLargo
Police in Plainfield are asking officials for permission to store rifles in the town's high schools so they'll be ready if violence breaks out.

What do these officers know that we don't? And why don't we, if it's this important?
























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24 posted on 08/22/2012 9:06:31 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Americans want what Americans always wanted: Better lives for families; little government authority.)
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To: grobdriver
Hmmmmm.

Usually, I'd have no problem with storing guns in schools. But this one triggers an alert with me, can't tell you why. Sounds like a police chief adding 2+2 and getting 5 as the result.

25 posted on 08/22/2012 9:06:33 AM PDT by wbill
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To: KeyLargo; Bob
None of these small suburban towns can afford a school security officer.

They have 4 high schools. It doesn’t sound like a “small” town to me.

Around here even small towns that have a security officer have the squad car at the school. They think of it as a “beware of dog sign”.

It also makes the officer available to render assistance to other officers if it is absolutely necessary.

26 posted on 08/22/2012 9:14:05 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: KeyLargo

Stupid questions: why does he need a “rifle” in a school? Will a handgun not suffice? Do they plan on him taking 100 yard shots down a hallway? Does he need 20 plus shots? If they are trying to cover for contingencies, just put up guard towers and barbed wire and treat it like prison.


27 posted on 08/22/2012 9:14:21 AM PDT by Chipper (You can't kill an Obamazombie by destroying the brain...they didn't have one to begin with.)
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To: Pontiac
Sorry this makes no sense to me.

Carry the guns in the squad car.

I don't think they're saying keep the squad car guns in the safes. Just something extra available to give the staff a fighting chance in an emergency. I like the idea, though, I might suggest a pistol or two also.

28 posted on 08/22/2012 9:29:35 AM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (To the left the truth looks like Right-Wing extremism.)
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To: riverrunner

Friend, check out the online video of Madison teachears screaming about the world is ending because they have to pay 10% of their medical premiums and kick in 5% pretax for their pensions, and then re-examine arming teachers.

Besides most are libs and hate guns and the entire concept of self-defense. The only people they get angry enough to kill are uncompromising conservatives.


29 posted on 08/22/2012 9:39:51 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: KeyLargo
” ... school resource officer can store a rifle. Konopek said having the extra weapon on hand would be useful “if a situation involving a shooter arises.”

If you take a step back and read the above I think you should substitute “Police” for school resource.

Since when are public high schools a police substation? Oh, excuse me I live in a “gun keeping bible reading” area of the Republic. I guess in major cities that have lived under Democratic rule for decades it is necessary to finally admit that high schools have to be a police substation because....

30 posted on 08/22/2012 9:48:42 AM PDT by Nip (TANSTAAFL and BOHICA)
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To: TangoLimaSierra
Just something extra available to give the staff a fighting chance in an emergency.

I can’t imagine that any police department would ever give civilians access to department weapons on any circumstances let alone as a matter of policy.

For one thing their insurance or bonding agency would drop them like a hot rock.

31 posted on 08/22/2012 10:02:05 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: KeyLargo

Not that bad an idea. I have a gan safe that contained a number of guns before The Horrible Boating Accident. It weighs about 550 lb. empty and would take somebody with a cutting torch and other tools quite a while to get into. None of the kids would have the necessary time and equipment. It would also take a major effort to disable the safe to make it inaccessible. If the cops think it’s a good idea for public safety, I don’t see any good reason to oppose it.


32 posted on 08/22/2012 10:17:56 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: Secret Agent Man

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33 posted on 08/23/2012 7:20:41 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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