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Judge: Fort Hood suspect's beard disrupts court
Boston Globe ^ | August 22, 2012 | Angela K. Brown

Posted on 08/22/2012 12:05:52 PM PDT by Zakeet

A judge has the right to order an Army psychiatrist charged in the 2009 Fort Hood shooting rampage to be forcibly shaved before his murder trial, military attorneys told an appeals court Wednesday.

The attorneys, in a document filed on behalf of Col. Gregory Gross, contend that forcibly shaving Maj. Nidal Hasan would not violate the American-born Muslim’s religious freedoms and said it is similar to ‘‘and no more invasive than’’ a judge’s right to restrain a defendant who is disruptive during a court-martial.

(Excerpt) Read more at boston.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: forthood; hasan; massacre; waronterror

I have a lawnmower that I'd love to loan them ... and I don't live all that far away!

1 posted on 08/22/2012 12:06:03 PM PDT by Zakeet
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To: Zakeet

Just suffocate him with bacon and get it over with.


2 posted on 08/22/2012 12:09:47 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: Zakeet
About damn time!

Now get on with it - I'll bring the rope!

3 posted on 08/22/2012 12:10:26 PM PDT by grobdriver (Proud Member, Party of No! Nobama, No Way, No How!)
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To: Zakeet

I have an old dull straight razor I’d loan them to dry shave him with.


4 posted on 08/22/2012 12:11:01 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Zakeet

He looks like the Colin Farrel character in “Horrible Bosses!”


5 posted on 08/22/2012 12:13:03 PM PDT by jimmyo57
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To: Zakeet

I’d be willing to bet he has a padded allah rug, a koran and everything else a muzscum needs to bow to his child rapist moHamamadman.


6 posted on 08/22/2012 12:19:52 PM PDT by soycd
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To: soycd

Why isn’t he dead yet?
Day 1: shoot a bunch of people
Day 2: trial
Day 3: dead


7 posted on 08/22/2012 12:21:57 PM PDT by mbarker12474 (If thine enemy offend thee, give his childe a drum.)
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To: Zakeet

Wasn’t he in the military when he committed the crime, and the crime was committed on a military base?

Isn’t this a military trial (and if not, why not)?

When you join the military you give up certain rights, like the right to wear a beard at your military trial for murder.


8 posted on 08/22/2012 12:28:49 PM PDT by Brookhaven (Freedom--tastes like chicken)
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To: SandRat

Weed Whacker would be my choice, but only after he was waterboarded a few times to soften it up.


9 posted on 08/22/2012 12:28:49 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: Zakeet

This is a military court, right? Seems like they wouldn’t be spooked by a beard.

Try the bearded basturd already and quit messin. If he is guilty, execute his bearded butt.

What the hail is the argument about? Be done with it already.


10 posted on 08/22/2012 12:29:28 PM PDT by Adder (Da bro has GOT to go!)
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To: Adder

The problem is exactly what got him there in the first place... PC fear. The Army is afraid it’ll be un-PC to force shave this clown. They might be insulting Islam if they do.


11 posted on 08/22/2012 12:32:40 PM PDT by Afisra (It's easier to gun proof a child than child proof a gun!)
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To: Zakeet

Since when did the length of a beard delay justice in the United States? More likely army investigators found some very inconvenient facts when searching this 35 year old unmarried man’s computer and apartment It simply will not do for our new gay friendly military to have an open trial before the election.


12 posted on 08/22/2012 12:32:40 PM PDT by allendale
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To: Adder

Speechless. Is there any need for a trial? He was caught in the act and should have been executed right then.


13 posted on 08/22/2012 12:35:47 PM PDT by BOBWADE (RINOs suck)
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To: Zakeet
“I have a lawnmower that I'd love to loan them ... and I don't live all that far away!”

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I worked for awhile at an old school redline brig in Norfolk, Va. We hand a few that were AWOL and running with the antiwar crowd that didn't feel like shaving, Big mistake, they were clean shaved when we got done. ;^).

14 posted on 08/22/2012 12:37:03 PM PDT by mongo141 (Revolution ver. 2.0, just a matter of when, not a matter of if!)
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To: Zakeet
I have a lawnmower that I'd love to loan them ... and I don't live all that far away!

Nah, a weedwhacker will do

15 posted on 08/22/2012 12:37:11 PM PDT by NRA1995 (I'll cling to my religion, cigars and guns till they're pried from my cold dead fingers!)
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To: Zakeet

Hooray!


16 posted on 08/22/2012 12:40:35 PM PDT by Perkalong
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To: Zakeet

Keep the blades dull. It will take multiple passes to get it scaled down to the skin.


17 posted on 08/22/2012 12:45:56 PM PDT by toolman1401
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To: Afisra

You’re exactly right! He shaved and had a regulation haircut while he was active duty. It’s my understanding that he is still receiving a paycheck from the military, so they need to force him to “earn” that paycheck by obeying orders.


18 posted on 08/22/2012 12:48:57 PM PDT by MomofMarine
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To: Zakeet
Just try him with his beard and add a few extra years to his death penalty for being out of uniform.
19 posted on 08/22/2012 12:57:37 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Recycled Olympic tagline Shut up, Bob Costas. Shut up! Shut up! Shut up! Shut up! Shut up! Shut up!)
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To: MomofMarine

A cigarette lighter works well and very quickly!


20 posted on 08/22/2012 12:59:15 PM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: KarlInOhio

To ensure a smooth shave you need a good lubricant. Warmed over bacon grease works very well for this purpose.


21 posted on 08/22/2012 1:02:07 PM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: Zakeet

Shave this POS convict him and stand him against a wall and fire..............


22 posted on 08/22/2012 1:06:17 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the New American Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
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To: Zakeet

He “served” without a beard for a lot of years and made no demand to grow one. “F” him!


23 posted on 08/22/2012 1:10:07 PM PDT by WellyP (question!)
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To: Zakeet
Since he did what he did on a base, he should have died in a hail of gunfire before getting off the first round and certainly before the second.

But why would our military carry weapons?

And why is cutting the soon to be dead man's beard even an issue? Why is he still breathing? That's the real issue.

Take care of that and the beard problem is solved.

24 posted on 08/22/2012 1:11:32 PM PDT by GBA
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To: Zakeet
OK butthead here is your choice either your beard goes or your gonads do. We are waiting.
25 posted on 08/22/2012 1:14:01 PM PDT by oldenuff2no
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To: Zakeet

I vote for the Weed Whacker. With a spool full of speedometer cable.


26 posted on 08/22/2012 1:15:03 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Zakeet

Introduce him to new blankets and clothes heavily populated with a thousand NITS!


27 posted on 08/22/2012 1:24:32 PM PDT by GOYAKLA (Recall/ Impeachment Day, November 6, 2012. FUBO, same for RINOs)
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To: Zakeet

Am I the only one who can’t understand Angela’s article? To paraphrase: Military attorneys say this and that and now that the judge has responded, the appeals court can make a decision. What does that mean? Responded to what? To the attorneys? Why would a judge respond to attorneys? Attorneys respond to judges. Can’t she just differentiate which judge of which court, responded to what, by saying what. If attroneys responded to something they did so on behalf of someone. Who? What? Why? When? Where? Come on, Angela.


28 posted on 08/22/2012 1:26:33 PM PDT by Marylander (Offendiphobia)
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To: grobdriver

I’ll bring the rope!

&&&
Initially, I wanted him dead, but, now, I think that spending the rest of his life in prison in a wheelchair, while contemplating the fact that it was a woman — and a small woman, at that — who drilled him, is just dandy.


29 posted on 08/22/2012 1:27:56 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Pray for our republic.)
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I have second thoughts on this. Is it possible that the judge forsees some sort of mistrial because the jury may think the beard makes him look muslim? I mean, without the beard they couldn’t attempt something like that.

Just speculating.


30 posted on 08/22/2012 1:34:37 PM PDT by EggsAckley ( There's an Ethiopian in the fuel supply ! ! ..)
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To: Zakeet

The judge can conclude the religious beliefs about the beard were not observed by the defendant prior to his acts of murder, during which time he conformed to the US military regs for beard.

Therefore the beliefs are not highly valued. Had he raised the claims prior to his acts of murder, he might have been released from service.

But now, having used in effect al Taqqiya in the form of shaving, in order to commit acts of murder and terror, he should be forced to appear in court unshaved, so witnesses can identify him.

So ruled. The case may proceed. Baliff, please shave the defendant.


31 posted on 08/22/2012 1:37:55 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: Zakeet

Hey, I live about 100 miles from Ft Hood and would be willing to go there and shave his beard - about two inches above his Adam’s apple with a dull fillet knife. I hate this a hole as much as I hate dims.


32 posted on 08/22/2012 1:38:08 PM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (RINO season is open. No limit. Make them extinct.)
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To: Zakeet

Shave his F’n beard already. Fricken PC cowards!


33 posted on 08/22/2012 1:38:15 PM PDT by Gettin Betta
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To: Zakeet

Why doesn’t he just resign his commission-couldn’t he keep the beard then?


34 posted on 08/22/2012 1:47:14 PM PDT by Spok
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To: Zakeet

Let him keep his beard. The noose will still go around his neck.


35 posted on 08/22/2012 2:08:15 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Zakeet

The best idea I’ve heard is to slip him a Mickey, shave him and use permanent laser hair removal on his entire chin. Then when he next appears in court, have the judge order him to not grow another beard.

Then watch the fun as his chin obeys the court order, and no matter what he does, his beard doesn’t grow.


36 posted on 08/22/2012 2:09:58 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: nascarnation
Weed Whacker would be my choice, but only after he was waterboarded a few times to soften it up.

It would be first choice as well, but I'd want to start at his ankles, and skin him alive. Did ya ever see what a weed whacker does to the bark on a tree?
37 posted on 08/22/2012 2:21:36 PM PDT by krogers58
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To: Zakeet
Did he shave while on active duty? If yes, tie the b**tard down and dry shave him with a straight razor. Then get along with the business of the court, not this B.S..

I can't believe that a military court is putting up with this crap from this man.

The Kenyan must go.

38 posted on 08/22/2012 2:40:17 PM PDT by ex91B10 (We've tried the Soap Box,the Ballot Box and the Jury Box; ONE BOX LEFT!)
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To: nascarnation

A Weed Whacker that’s Gas powered with a steel cutting chain.


39 posted on 08/22/2012 2:52:23 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Bigg Red
No way.
Alive, he can just make trouble.

He owes.

40 posted on 08/22/2012 3:40:39 PM PDT by grobdriver (Proud Member, Party of No! Nobama, No Way, No How!)
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To: Zakeet

Burn it off with MRE matches. The eyebrows and chest hair looks eccentric too. Going to need more fire.


41 posted on 08/22/2012 3:51:30 PM PDT by Repeat Offender (While the wicked stand confounded, call me with Thy Saints surrounded.)
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To: Zakeet

Another FReeper (sorry,I don’t remember who) had an idea the other day about this. Order him to shave. He will refuse. Quick trial for refusing a lawful order. Guilty. Sentence:fine as large as possible to be deducted from his pay, reduction in rank as far as possible. Repeat until he is a private E1. At least the taxpayers will not have to pay him as a Major. Then have him shaved by force,continue the trial,and have an execution.


42 posted on 08/22/2012 4:29:13 PM PDT by shooter223 (the government should fear the citizens......not the other way around)
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43 posted on 08/22/2012 4:34:10 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Zakeet

Shuckz—I’ll lend you the propane torch.......nice CLOSE shave.


44 posted on 08/23/2012 12:32:20 AM PDT by S.O.S121.500 (That Kenyan muzzy bastard is not my president. ENFORCE the Bill of Rights.)
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To: Zakeet
A judge has the right to order an Army psychiatrist charged in the 2009 Fort Hood shooting rampage to be forcibly shaved before his murder trial

This traitorous judge is in cahoots with the Obama administration. No one cares if he wears a beard or not. This judge has successfully delayed this trial until after the election

45 posted on 08/23/2012 5:58:59 AM PDT by dennisw (Government be yo mamma - Re-elect Barack Obama)
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To: grobdriver

Oh, I know he owes big time. A slow, slow, painful death would be too good for him. But I am hoping that he is in anguish every day and wishing for death. (God, forgive me.)


46 posted on 08/23/2012 10:21:58 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Pray for our republic.)
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