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I say Akin was right; and AIN'T I A WOMAN?**
the conservative circular firing squad | August 22, 2012 | me

Posted on 08/22/2012 3:20:19 PM PDT by shhrubbery!

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To: Tennessee Nana; IronJack
Lets toss out the 19th Amendment so that the Constitution no longer hangs by a thread...

Nana, thanks for your defense, but I think he was being ironic.

Thanks IronJack for your comments, esp allusion to Clarence Thomas, who is still a hero in my conservative pantheon (although my statues of Ann Coulter, Sarah Palin, and Michelle Malkin have been tossed out).

81 posted on 08/22/2012 4:07:48 PM PDT by shhrubbery! (NIH!)
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To: shhrubbery!

If Akin cared about the conservative movement and the welfare of this country he would step down. Now he’s shown he’s just another scumbag politician thinking of his own self. He has a small window to do the right this thing or history will judge him harshly.


82 posted on 08/22/2012 4:08:18 PM PDT by Blackirish
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To: shhrubbery!

Loose lips; sink ships...


83 posted on 08/22/2012 4:09:01 PM PDT by B212
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To: shhrubbery!

Keep selling yourself that fantasy. Maybe you haven’t heard that his GOP money has dried up with no future resources coming.

He’s a sure loser.


84 posted on 08/22/2012 4:09:37 PM PDT by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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85 posted on 08/22/2012 4:09:47 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: not2worry

He needs to spend an eternity in Hell with his demorat friends


86 posted on 08/22/2012 4:09:47 PM PDT by jesseam (eliev)
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To: shhrubbery!

If I remember correctly the question was “Do you think abortion should be legal in cases of rape?” I wouldn’t call that a gotcha question at all. It was quite straight forward and Akin was free to choose his own words. Ultimately, he tripped up on his own on a fairly simple question.


87 posted on 08/22/2012 4:09:57 PM PDT by FreeFromWhat
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To: DallasSun
Absolutely, Onyx. He is a ticking time bomb. The Republican Party is doing everything it can to get him out of the race. For good reason. Some can ignore this. Most do not.

He'll be a distraction until he drops out and he will drop out.

88 posted on 08/22/2012 4:11:08 PM PDT by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: brytlea
In fact I’m a little offended when someone says something is offensive “to women” as if we are especially sensitive to being offended. Rape is offensive to everyone.

Me too. I did not find Akin's words "offensive." Not in the slightest.

Otoh I am highly offended by Mitt Romney's, Scott Brown's, Michelle Malkin's, Ann Coulter's, and Sean Hannity's words about this controversy.

89 posted on 08/22/2012 4:11:08 PM PDT by shhrubbery! (NIH!)
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To: shhrubbery!

I also think the theory could have some merit because it has a sound, biological, evolutionary basis. Looking back to primitive times, it would be a big disadvantage to survival if a woman was raped and had to raise a child on her own without support from a steady mate. Natural selection would therefore favor individuals who were less likely to get pregnant from an unwanted attack, and the feeling of stress could be the mechanism to help make a pregnancy less likely. Nevertheless, the competing force of reproduction would be fighting within the species to make pregnancy possible in that case anyway. It’s still just a theory of course, but it is reasonable and logical enough to be considered and studied further.


90 posted on 08/22/2012 4:11:22 PM PDT by JediJones (Too Hot for GOP TV: Newt Gingrich, Sarah Palin, Allen West and Donald Trump)
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To: Pearls Before Swine
I think it's around 4 1/2 months, myself. Five years after birth is well past that.

You've already lost the argument as you chose to stand on the slippery slope - made all the more slick with the detritus of human carnage. Once you've rationalized killing humans of any age due to the inconvenience of having them around, you've justified murder and genocide. Innocent life at NO age is sacrosanct as long as people hold the ignorant view that - well SOME life innocent life is disposable. A nation that rejects the sanctity of life has abandoned any pretext or even pretensions to legitimacy. There is no moral distinction between the U.S and North Korea once the people glom on to killing unborn babies. It no longer becomes a question of right vs wrong, but of who's sh*t stinks worse.

http://www.glennbeck.com/2012/02/28/ethicists-justify-after-birth-abortion/

It really is a black and white issue. Like pregnancy, being a murderer is all or nothing. But unlike pregnancy, the victims of abortion can never recover from being killed.

91 posted on 08/22/2012 4:11:41 PM PDT by Sirius Lee (Goode over evil. Voting for mitt or obie is like throwing your country away.)
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To: shhrubbery!
Your comment implies that Akin couldn't comment on Solyndra, because he doesn't have a degree in solar energy engineering (lthough he does in fact have a degree in engineering).

Uh, no. Solyndra did not have an engineering problem. The Solyndra problem was the government made a "loan" to a company with no assets completely dependent on government subsidies and tax breaks, and no real prospects for paying the money back. Everyone, except apparently Democrats, can understand that problem.

92 posted on 08/22/2012 4:12:09 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: shhrubbery!
Stop assuming Akin can't win.

Nonsense.

Akin cannot win, he can only ensure the loss of other conservatives (which just might be his and your true intent. I can't say for sure, but I am a bit suspicious) Could Mister Akin be Obama's stealth (and early) October Surprise?

As for Akin not being wrong?

I believe that there are countless examples of pregnancies following brutal and vicious rapes; and further, I am not aware of any valid studies that offer even suggestive evidence of Mister Akin's foolish and ignorant assertion.

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93 posted on 08/22/2012 4:12:52 PM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: knarf

It’s interesting how many threads on this have been on FR. I haven’t counted them.


94 posted on 08/22/2012 4:13:25 PM PDT by brytlea (An ounce of chocolate is worth a pound of cure)
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To: shhrubbery!
The overreaction to Akin's words is one of the worst I've ever seen. Some conservative women are amongst the worst overreactors. I am especially furious with Michelle Malkin, who has been going on air parroting the "Magic Uterus" meme to ridicule Akin.

I would like to re-post ell that you wrote as it was right on. Many women believe as you do, I think, but would not post because of the firestorm of criticism they know they will receive. Kudos to you for your post. Don't weaken.

95 posted on 08/22/2012 4:15:27 PM PDT by SandwicheGuy (*The butter acts as a lubricant and speeds up the CPU*ou)
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To: RaisingCain
If the herd is offended, can we really be sure it deserves to be?

Most people understand the rules of the political game.

If you say something stupid, then your opponent WILL use it to political advantage.

When a remark is excessively stupid, particularly in regard to a notoriously sensitive subject, the stakes and the penalties are even higher.

Unfortunately for Akin, he made an enormous blunder. Whether it was a simple misstatement or even if he really believed what he said was accurate, the damage was done, and it's highly likely that he has destroyed his own candidacy.

By refusing to admit to this reality, he may well have cost us a critical Senate seat, condemned us to live under Obamacare as the permanent law of the land, and our country will be pushed over the economic cliff.

96 posted on 08/22/2012 4:15:27 PM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: Tennessee Nana

When your only reply to someone with whom you disagree is disrespect and a picture of a cat, it simply means your argument has no depth or substance. But we knew that.


97 posted on 08/22/2012 4:15:45 PM PDT by DallasSun (Courage~Fear that has said its prayers.)
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To: DallasSun

You know, I’ve seen that number, but I don’t know how they actually got it. I’m suspicious of the numbers (maybe it’s higher, maybe it’s lower) because women seem either afraid to come forward (if you believe one side) or perhaps lie about the circumstances of their pregnancy after the fact. However, I’m not denying that women get pregnant as a result of rape. I’m only saying I doubt we have good stats on it.
And forcible rape as opposed to statutory rape. You know, where say the boy is 19 and the girl is 15, consensual but illegal. BTW are those pregnancies thrown into that number of 32,000 or are all of those forcible rapes?


98 posted on 08/22/2012 4:18:06 PM PDT by brytlea (An ounce of chocolate is worth a pound of cure)
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To: BlatherNaut

The fact that he has in all liklihood lost this Senate seat for us seems to be lost on some. I am glad you have recognized it.


99 posted on 08/22/2012 4:18:08 PM PDT by DallasSun (Courage~Fear that has said its prayers.)
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To: Sirius Lee
It really is a black and white issue. Like pregnancy, being a murderer is all or nothing.

I hear you, but help me out. Is it murder to use the morning after pill? Is it murder to use female birth control pills which prevent implantation? Is it murder at the moment after the sperm embeds in the ovum, or is there a decent interval? When does the slippery slope get steep?

I think it's murder at a somewhat later time.

100 posted on 08/22/2012 4:18:12 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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