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School Under Fire For Allowing Churches to Feed Football Team
FoxNews.com ^ | 8/22/2010 | Todd Starnes

Posted on 08/22/2012 11:46:56 PM PDT by Hunton Peck

A Wisconsin-based group has accused a Georgia high school football coach of violating the First Amendment by allowing local churches to prepare meals for his team.

The Freedom From Religion Foundation sent a letter to the superintendent of Walker County Schools demanding an “immediate investigation” into Ridgeland High School football coach Mark Mariakis.

The FFRF is a Wisconsin-based group whose purpose is to “protect the constitutional principle of separation between state and church.”

They are demanding the school system launch an investigation into allegations that Coach Mariakis allowed local churches to prepare pre-game meals for his football team. They also allege that the coach prayed with his team, used Bible verses in motivational speeches and on team shirts and participated in the Fellowship of Christian Athletes.

“Taking public school football teams to church, even for a meal, is unconstitutional,” wrote FFRF attorney Andrew Seidel. “This program is an egregious violation of the Establishment Clause and must cease immediately.”

Seidel said taking school children to churches and having ministers “present the Gospel of Jesus Christ” and having the food blessed “shatters the protections the First Amendment put in place.”

The Walker County School system released a statement acknowledging they have received the letter and are reviewing its contents.

The FFRF said a local individual complained about a longstanding tradition of local churches providing meals to the teenage football players on game day. The complainant said a minister would typically deliver remarks “about the Christian religion.”

“The fact that Mariakis visits several churches instead of one does not mitigate the violation,” Seidel wrote.

The Chattanooga Valley Baptist Church is scheduled to provide a meal for the football team in late October.

Richie White, the church’s youth director, said he was quite surprised to hear that an outside group had issues with feeding...

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; US: Georgia; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: ffrf; frff; highschoolfootball; religion; schools
Looks like the FRFF want to become the PETA of atheism, choosing to target the most insanely frivolous pseudo-offenses with their unrighteous indignation.
1 posted on 08/22/2012 11:47:01 PM PDT by Hunton Peck
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To: Hunton Peck

Sure can’t argue with that.


2 posted on 08/22/2012 11:49:35 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Americans want what Americans always wanted: Better lives for families; little government authority.)
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To: Hunton Peck

I am so tired of these people.


3 posted on 08/22/2012 11:51:53 PM PDT by abercrombie_guy_38
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To: Hunton Peck
Please provide me a link to where “separation of church and state” appears in the constitution.
4 posted on 08/22/2012 11:52:06 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: Hunton Peck

The word “egregious” continues to be applied to more and more trivial circumstances.


5 posted on 08/22/2012 11:53:10 PM PDT by jimfree (In Nov 2012 my 12 y/o granddaughter has more relevant&quality executive experience than Barack Obama)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s in one of those penumbras or eminences. You have to be tripping on acid to see it; at least, the word is out that that’s how Justice Douglas found it.


6 posted on 08/22/2012 11:57:27 PM PDT by Hunton Peck (Life, liberty, property, and the means to defend them.)
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To: Hunton Peck

How does that violate the First Amendment?


7 posted on 08/22/2012 11:58:49 PM PDT by wastedyears (The First Law of Heavy Metal: Not all metal is satanic.)
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To: FReepers; Patriots; FRiends




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8 posted on 08/23/2012 12:01:08 AM PDT by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: Hunton Peck

There should be a contiuous organized prayer vigil on the sidewalk in front of the Freedom From Religion headquarters just to annoy these people, I mean pray for them - ha ha. Give them a taste of their own medicine!


9 posted on 08/23/2012 12:04:39 AM PDT by MissH
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To: Hunton Peck

Hey FFRF, get off your mean spirited asses and offer to host
the team for a pre-game meal. I’m sure the players will
enjoy your tofu burgers and organic celery sticks.


10 posted on 08/23/2012 12:09:07 AM PDT by Sivad (Nor Cal Red Turf)
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To: Hunton Peck
Yeah!!!

Another creepy left-wing group that doesn't completely get the difference between "freedom OF religion" and "freedom FROM religion."
11 posted on 08/23/2012 12:09:40 AM PDT by PhxTM06 (")
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To: MissH

They should be listed as a “Hate Group” and noted for their Christianaphobia.


12 posted on 08/23/2012 12:15:55 AM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: Hunton Peck
Looks like the FRFF want to become the PETA of atheism

More like the NAMBLA of atheism.

13 posted on 08/23/2012 12:16:47 AM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: Hunton Peck

Shhh.... Our local Baptist church holds my daughter’s school’s team annual Volleyball banquet, and serve a delicious meal. They even let my Catholic daughter in and we have several Methodists and a Jew!


14 posted on 08/23/2012 12:16:57 AM PDT by MacMattico
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To: abercrombie_guy_38

I pity them personally. Their every move exposes them as hate mongers, nit-pickers, spoilers, people who seek to shut other people up rather than convince them. They are so fixated on one Human “Right” that they are totally prepared to deny every other. They are silly, immature and impractical. It is quite obvious to anyone with more than five brain cells that they have ulterior motives for all this. They give themselves fine titles and all-encompassing remits, but the group probably consists of four or five self-important trolls far more close-minded and fanatical than the real people they rail against.

I also dont worry abou them. The more of these “complaints” they make the more obvious all these traits become.


15 posted on 08/23/2012 12:40:40 AM PDT by Vanders9
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Please provide me a link to where “separation of church and state” appears in the constitution.

There isn't a 'separation' save for the establishment clause. Few people can explain what Madison intended with that clause or Jefferson's letter to the Baptists. Can you?

16 posted on 08/23/2012 1:07:42 AM PDT by loboinok (Gun control is hitting what you aim at!)
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To: Hunton Peck

Daily WTF alert!


17 posted on 08/23/2012 1:40:44 AM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: Hunton Peck

to “protect the constitutional principle of separation between state and church

There is no Constitutional principle of seperation. That is a judicial ruling of a modern day court. Nothing in the Constituion seperates Church and State.


18 posted on 08/23/2012 1:49:35 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the New American Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
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To: Hunton Peck

(Taking public school football teams to church, even for a meal, is unconstitutional)

That is the one of the stupidist things I have ever heard....


19 posted on 08/23/2012 1:51:39 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the New American Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
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To: loboinok

Few people can explain what Madison intended with that clause or Jefferson’s

Well yes actually. The Government can not pick a National Religion and mandate that all citizens adhere to that religion.
You know, what they left England for.......
Having a Christmas tree in a publ;ic square when 85-95 percent of the citizne celebrate “Christmas” for whateber reason is NOT what the founder meant.......


20 posted on 08/23/2012 1:55:57 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the New American Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
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>> Freedom From Religion Foundation

ACLU redux.

These divisive malcontents care not for the 1st Amendment nor Christianity.

BTW, FFRF, Christianity is not a religion.

Too bad you #ing morons didn’t decide on “Freedom From Faith Foundation”. Would have been a more illustrative representation of your idiotic intolerance.


21 posted on 08/23/2012 1:59:03 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: PhxTM06

>> that doesn’t completely get the difference between “freedom OF religion” and “freedom FROM religion.”

And of course there’s the “Climate Change” crowd formerly known as the failing “Global Warming” crowd.


22 posted on 08/23/2012 2:01:06 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: Hunton Peck; All

Not the PETA of atheism but the WESTBORO BAPTIST Church of Atheism!


23 posted on 08/23/2012 2:31:06 AM PDT by mdmathis6 (Not left wing! Not right wing! But....CHRIST WING!)
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To: Vanders9

These people have become the WESTBORO BAPTIST CHURCH of atheism!


24 posted on 08/23/2012 2:33:18 AM PDT by mdmathis6 (Not left wing! Not right wing! But....CHRIST WING!)
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To: SECURE AMERICA

They’re SO hung up on symbolism that they can hardly imagine that a growing boy just wants to eat without all the so-called implications.


25 posted on 08/23/2012 2:41:27 AM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: Hunton Peck
The FFRF is a Wisconsin-based group whose purpose is to “protect the constitutional principle of separation between state and church.”

All they do is send threatening letters to other cities, towns, communities, and institutions, demanding investigations and hinting at expensive litigation. Instead of buckling, these places ought to just stand up and tell FFRF to go pound sand, especially since FFRF has no standing, period, to sue.

26 posted on 08/23/2012 3:36:31 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Hunton Peck; Diana in Wisconsin; P from Sheb; Shady; DonkeyBonker; Wisconsinlady; JPG; bushwon; ...

Madison’s Freedom From Religion folks messing with churches in other states ping...

FReep Mail me if you want on, or off, this Wisconsin interest ping list.


27 posted on 08/23/2012 3:39:22 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic (ABO)
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To: Hunton Peck

They need to be sued for depriving others of their civil rights.


28 posted on 08/23/2012 3:40:53 AM PDT by W. W. SMITH ((Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.)
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To: Hunton Peck
They are demanding the school system launch an investigation into allegations that Coach Mariakis allowed local churches to prepare pre-game meals for his football team.

No wonder Liberals are crazy as bell tower bats.

It must be terrifying to live in Liberal Bizarro World where inanimate objects come alive, and of their own volition do things to hurt people.

Spoons make people fat (like Rosie 'O').
Guns go berserk and shoot people
SUV's go on terror sprees and run people down

Now we have churches that can prepare meals


29 posted on 08/23/2012 3:45:11 AM PDT by Iron Munro ("In any compromise between good and evil, it is only evil that can profit." - Ayn Rand)
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To: loboinok

Few people can explain what Madison intended with that clause or Jefferson’s letter to the Baptists. Can you?

freedom from government in our religion, not freedom from religion in our government.

There is a wall of separation “BUT” only in one direction, from government to religion. In the other direction there is no impediment at all.


30 posted on 08/23/2012 3:48:36 AM PDT by W. W. SMITH ((Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.)
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To: SECURE AMERICA

Follow me on this. A Catholic hospital that will receive gov’t money because of Obamacare (or ClaireCare since she helped to pass it)is ‘feeding’(in other words caring for and nursing) a patient. Twisted logic and reasoning from a group like this would think that is unconstitutional. Sadly, this type of group think saturates our governmennt.


31 posted on 08/23/2012 4:00:00 AM PDT by taterjay
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To: Hunton Peck

This just in: The FFRF has discovered that the team has to drive by several churches and a synagogue, on public, tax supported roads, to get to the games. They want an immediate investigation and an injunction.


32 posted on 08/23/2012 4:11:48 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Legalize Freedom!!)
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To: muir_redwoods
This just in: The FFRF has discovered that churches and synagogues exist. They demand an immediate cessation to any and all 'worship' in said locations.

These a-holes would fit right in, in the Soviet Union.

33 posted on 08/23/2012 4:19:19 AM PDT by Lazamataz (I love the Universe, and it loves me.)
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To: SECURE AMERICA
Well that's one of the problems with having a written constitution. The bald statements are clear enough, but because they cannot address every single instance and every single circumstance, the constitution (just like every other legal code) has to be interpreted.

Unfortunately, once an interpretation has been made, it opens the door for further "movement" on whatever issue, which again leads to another, and so on, and the end result is this ridiculous situation. The plain words of the constitution are that "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion" which is clearly an injunction against the setting up of a State sponsored or approved religious structure aka England (and many other nations too as it happens). However, it can (and has) been interpreted to mean that the U.S. government should not prefer one religion over another, and therefore it is wrong for Public squares to have Christmas trees, as that way the State is "preferring" Christianity over other faiths. Of course, the ultimate result of this kind of interpretation is that ALL christian activity will be criminalised. Now as an interpretation this is clearly a stretch. There effectively WERE no non-Christian religions in the US when the Constitution was drafted and the fact that a time would come when there would be was not anticipated, or rather it wasn't exactly at the top of anyones agenda. But, this is an interpretation that suits the new hightly militant atheist movement. And that is the nub of the matter. They don't give a toss about the legal niceties of how society and State relate to each other. They are simply pushing their own agenda (the ultimate destruction of all religion) and this is a convenient tool to use to do that.

34 posted on 08/23/2012 4:25:54 AM PDT by Vanders9
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To: Hunton Peck
The local high school in my district is located across the street from a large Baptist church. The team walks over to the church every Friday for a dinner. As far as I know, there have been no complaints and at the last home game there is an announcement of ‘thanks’ to the church members.
35 posted on 08/23/2012 5:21:46 AM PDT by Eileanright
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To: Eileanright

In our town the alums erected a five million dollar monument to the football team. It contains facilities for preparing and serving the 5 or 6 pre home game meals.


36 posted on 08/23/2012 5:24:52 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: Hunton Peck
Ridgeland High School football and coach Mark Mariakis should just ignore the FRFF.

Note to Ms. Gaylor: you are going to be so surprised when you leave this mortal coil.

5.56mm

37 posted on 08/23/2012 5:39:53 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: Hunton Peck; mickie
Jesus fed the hungry crowd of 5000 near Bethesda with 5 loaves of bread and two fish.

Today, He would be sued out of His sandals by the FFRF if He fed a hungry high school football team with 11 pizzas and a case of Pepsi.

We are living in the Theater of the Absurd.

Leni

38 posted on 08/23/2012 6:21:43 AM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: loboinok

When a church, synagogue, temple or other religious organization provides food for children in a government-run, secular school, is that the government “establishing” a particular religion?


39 posted on 08/23/2012 7:35:32 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: Hunton Peck
Were the boys required to attend the meal, eat the meal, pray at the meal, like the meal, or have anything at all to do with the meal, in order to play football?

No? Then ST*bleep*U, you insane busybodies!

40 posted on 08/23/2012 8:26:25 AM PDT by workerbee (June 28, 2012 -- 9/11 From Within)
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