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Police At Chicago-Area High Schools Want To Bring Rifles To Campus
TBI ^ | 8-23-2012 | Abby Rogers

Posted on 08/23/2012 10:52:44 AM PDT by blam

Police At Chicago-Area High Schools Want To Bring Rifles To Campus

Abby Rogers
August 23, 2012

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Despite the fact the city hasn't had any campus shootings, police in south suburban Plainfield, Ill., want to be prepared.

The Plainfield Police Department wants to keep a rifle in the offices of high school police officers, NBC 5 Chicago reported Wednesday.

“Unfortunately, in today’s society active shooter incidents are no longer something we see on TV," Police Chief John Konopek said. "They are reality.”

Plainfield is home to four high schools.

The department is specifically requesting to keep long guns such as AR15s in locked gun safes at the schools.

“We have found, through our training, officers are much better equipped to handle this type of incident utilizing a long gun … rather than a handgun,” Konopek said, according to NBC5.

A school board committee is scheduled to review the request next month.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: campus; rifles; schools; violence

1 posted on 08/23/2012 10:52:54 AM PDT by blam
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To: blam

they are power crazed bullies with badges


2 posted on 08/23/2012 10:55:29 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: blam

Makes sense to me to be prepared for something awful to happen. The mere fact that the school police will be prepared for an assault will help to deter such assaults.


3 posted on 08/23/2012 10:55:33 AM PDT by MeganC (The Cinemark theatre in Aurora, CO is a 'Gun Free Zone'. Spread the word.)
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To: blam
no way. these assault weapons have only one purpose, killing people, and they have no place in a civilized society. Keep our children safe and make sure all schools are gun free zones.
4 posted on 08/23/2012 10:58:08 AM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: blam

Deadly spray-and-pray rapid-fire assault sniper rifles that only belong on a battlefield ???!!!

Oh, they’re cops?
In the Chicago area?

Never mind.


5 posted on 08/23/2012 10:58:57 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: blam

Gimme a beak, odds are they couldn’t properly handle a .22, either rifle or pistol.


6 posted on 08/23/2012 11:00:03 AM PDT by wastedyears (The First Law of Heavy Metal: Not all metal is satanic.)
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To: blam

get the cops OUT of the schools. It has changed from serve and protect to prey on and persecute


7 posted on 08/23/2012 11:00:13 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: blam

Maybe they could bring back the concept of the school “shooting team”.


8 posted on 08/23/2012 11:00:38 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: blam
Guns are illegal in Illinois.

Why do police need them?

9 posted on 08/23/2012 11:03:34 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: blam

Why would anyone in their right mind send their child to a school which:
1. Requires a full time police presence
2. Has a police station in the school
3. Has an arms locker in the police station
4. Has police who are so intimidated that they require AR15’s?

There is so much wrong with this, where to begin?

That is not a school, it is a prison manned by prison guards.


10 posted on 08/23/2012 11:04:23 AM PDT by ThirdMate
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To: MeganC

Are you really that scared of someone shooting up a school (other then maybe a SWAT team during ‘Collateral damage’) to allow armed government guards at schools? Ya know, I grew up during the cold war and that is exactly what we were told to defend against!.


11 posted on 08/23/2012 11:05:49 AM PDT by March113 (We are paying for that Nov day more so than ever. Am I the only one that thinks this?)
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To: EGPWS

Guns are illegal in Illinois? I’m sure that will come as a shock to the millions of gunowners in Illinois.


12 posted on 08/23/2012 11:07:50 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: paul51

Oh, but “assault weapons” in the hands of police and military go from “bad/evil” to “good” instantaneously.

We should always trust our magnanomous overlords!
They wouldn’t be where they are if they weren’t superior both morally and intellectually!


13 posted on 08/23/2012 11:08:56 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working fors)
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To: ThirdMate

“Why would anyone in their right mind send their child to a school which”

‘cuz I needs my “me” time.


14 posted on 08/23/2012 11:10:06 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working fors)
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To: blam

“...long guns such as AR15s ...”

So the pic they use is a bolt-action weapon?

The students are probably better-armed than the cops.

</sarcasm>


15 posted on 08/23/2012 11:12:38 AM PDT by carriage_hill (Harry Reid [PERVERT-NV] has Vickie-the-goat in lingerie & stiletto heels, tied-up in his office.)
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To: ThirdMate
There is so much wrong with this, where to begin?

Start by issuing vouchers...and see how fast the school empties out...problem solved

16 posted on 08/23/2012 11:16:15 AM PDT by immadashell
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To: carriage_hill

Did anyone else learn to fire a rifle in school when they were kids?

I learned at the after school center in NYC.


17 posted on 08/23/2012 11:17:40 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (ABO 2012)
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To: blam

Misleading headline. Plainfield, Illinois, is not in the “Chicago area” any more than Bakersfield would be in the “Los Angeles area”. It’s a rural, downstate, small town.


18 posted on 08/23/2012 11:17:52 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: wastedyears

Plainfield’s out in the country. Most country folk I’ve met know their way around a rifle pretty good.


19 posted on 08/23/2012 11:19:39 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: EGPWS

Actually, they’re not, just in Chicago and a few suburbs. Even there, the ban is on handguns, not long guns.


20 posted on 08/23/2012 11:22:09 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: blam

If cops with rifles are requesting to be at public schools, its time to take your kid out of the public schools.


21 posted on 08/23/2012 11:23:48 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: blam

If the rifles are allowed?.....they will find a reason to use them....


22 posted on 08/23/2012 11:24:50 AM PDT by bobaloobob
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23 posted on 08/23/2012 11:25:21 AM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93destr)
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To: blam

Because without armed guards, public skool just doesn’t look enough like prison...


24 posted on 08/23/2012 11:26:27 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1312 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Obama, a queer and present danger)
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To: Boogieman
It’s a rural, downstate, small town.

wrong, it's one of the fastest growing communities in the chicago sw burbs. if you haven't been there in 20 yuears you wouldn't recognize it

25 posted on 08/23/2012 11:26:40 AM PDT by TheRightGuy (I want MY BAILOUT ... a billion or two should do!)
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To: TheRightGuy

I haven’t been there in years. Last time I was there, it was just tornado bait.


26 posted on 08/23/2012 11:29:03 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: blam

Actually, in this period of heightened security concerns, the police should be allowed to park tanks and armored PC carriers at all schools and public events. As a matter of fact, all public facilities should contained secured containers with rifles for the use of the police. As a maater of fact, instead of rifles, they should be given machine guns. All schools should have gas canisters secured for the exclusive use of SWAT teams. A few wire guided missles should also be included. Perhaps tactile nuclear weapons should be considered.

Now, with respect to the war in the air, are drones enough?

I have just about HAD it with these maniac cops and police groupies who support this kind of alarmist paramilitary police force. The PBA and FOP with their minions in the legislature have no ability to sate thier appeties for sophisticated military technologies, increasing staff, and grossly inflated salaries.

I have a BETTER idea. Pull back ALL our military forces from Iraq, Afghanistan and all those other places like South Korea and western Europe. Put them on our southern borders. Get the National Guard back into civilian life in local jurisdictions so they can be called up in the case of a military emergency with real ease in the event we HAVE one and want serious military personnel drawn from professional citizen-soldiers, and not a collection of unionized elitist overpaid Keystone Kops.

If we want to fight Islam over THERE - DO IT. But create a larger army to do sdo and stop tiptoeing around with special “rules of engagement”. If we had THOSE back in the 1940s we would be speaking Japanese or German - if we were still alive.


27 posted on 08/23/2012 11:30:06 AM PDT by ZULU (See: http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=D9vQt6IXXaM&hd)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

In HS ‘63-’67 Chicago NW Suburbs, we had a rifle team and practiced after school at the on-site range. We kept our target rifles (Mossberg 144LS w/ 10x Bushnell Glass), 7-rnd LR mags, .22LR ‘brick’ ammo and paper targets in our hall lockers w/ combo padlocks. I don’t remember a single ‘massacre’ in those 4yrs.

Also in BSA, we did NRA competition in 50s & 60s; I’m an Eagle Scout, Class of ‘63.

http://gastatic.com/UserImages/94308/951518324/wm_1414843.jpg

Still have that pristine unit in my dbl dr gunsafe.


28 posted on 08/23/2012 11:32:50 AM PDT by carriage_hill (Harry Reid [PERVERT-NV] has Vickie-the-goat in lingerie & stiletto heels, tied-up in his office.)
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To: blam

The department is specifically requesting to keep long guns such as AR15s in locked gun safes at the schools
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So the Police would have to respond the the school for the shooting and hope the guy doing the shooting is somewhere other than where they have their police weapons locked up?

This doesn’t make sense to me . Put them in their trunk or at the Police building, but don’t leave them at the school.


29 posted on 08/23/2012 11:36:27 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: MeganC

If the long gun is kept in the officer’s office and the shooting is elsewhere, like the gym all the good it will do is give the officer an excuse to flee the scene: I was going for my rifle,”. Not to cast espersions on officer’s in general, they are armed and will use their radio and side arm until maybe someone else shows up. Most schools don’t have multiple officers, maybe Chicago does, I can see why they would. What about arming the teachers? I had one coach who was ex navy and a golden gloves boxer. I expect he’d have been willing and able.


30 posted on 08/23/2012 11:50:41 AM PDT by dblshot (Insanity: electing the same people over and over and expecting different results.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
Did anyone else learn to fire a rifle in school when they were kids? I learned at the after school center in NYC.
I went to HS in a NYC suburb (W. Hempstead) and was looking at my HS graduation book (1965) the other day.
Quite surprised to see we had a rifle team which I don't recall at all.
31 posted on 08/23/2012 12:55:37 PM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: PGR88
"If cops with rifles are requesting to be at public schools, its time to take your kid out of the public schools. "

Exactly. I sold a house and moved to another county to have a decent school for my son. That was back in 1980. He has a PhD in physics now.

32 posted on 08/23/2012 2:08:39 PM PDT by blam
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To: March113

“Are you really that scared of someone shooting up a school (other then maybe a SWAT team during ‘Collateral damage’) to allow armed government guards at schools? Ya know, I grew up during the cold war and that is exactly what we were told to defend against!.”

I carry a .45 in my purse all the time and while I have never needed it I’ve also never needed the fire extinguishers in my house or car and I have them, too.

We’re also talking about CHICAGO which now has the highest murder rate in the USA with 250 murders this year. That there will be violence at a Chicago area school THIS YEAR is not a supposition but a statistical probability.

Having the cops prepared for such a thing can actually deter someone from shooting up a school in Chicago and, thus, it is worth doing.


33 posted on 08/23/2012 2:19:48 PM PDT by MeganC (The Cinemark theatre in Aurora, CO is a 'Gun Free Zone'. Spread the word.)
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