Skip to comments.Huckabee digs in behind Akin
Posted on 08/23/2012 11:55:47 AM PDT by TonyInOhio
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The time for courage was the day before yesterday; sadly, Akin failed to show any, and decided to go ahead and lose the potential 51st GOP Senate seat by staying in the race.
I'd say these circumstances have less to do with courage and a whole lot more to do with hubris.
George Allen was not a racist when he had his macaca moment.
Todd Akin was already incurably stupid when he had his magic uterus moment.
I have about had it with out of state lecturers about how to win a state wide election in Missouri. Reality is what it is. Unfortunately the Akin cultist are more interested in making him their martyr than defeating Claire.
I have repeatedly stated IF Akin is the only conservative/Republican on the ballot I will vote for him.
Have you ever heard of that saying 'good intentions pave the road to hell.... HELLO AKIN!!!
Take your ignorant judgments and bash them else where. Oh, and while you are at it enjoy your paving job, you are very good at it.
You mean the potential 54th seat -- right???
That is if the Rasmussen numbers are correct.
Agreed. But, in this day and age, emotions trump logic.
Regardless, if not for the ill-conceived 17th Amendment and its unintended consequences, we wouldn't be having this conversation.
What it is, though, is terrified of being picked on by the mainstream media.
Quivering, puking, bedwetting terrified.
If the "GOP establishment" had just sat back and let this thing play out for a couple of days instead of having a five-alarm public aneurysm due to their terror of being called bad names by the NYT and NBC, we'd be looking at a different - and less cataclysmic - situation right now.
ridiculous statement and it misses the main point by a mile. there are issues here that are infinitely MORE IMPORTANT THAN AKIN. he alone is responsible for making himself a political liability.It isn't just about Akin; it's about the stir he's caused because of the subject matter he spoke of. Huck is in his corner in that regard.
MR. RUSSERT: But you said you would ban all abortions.
GOV. HUCKABEE: Well, that's not just because I'm a Christian, that's because I'm an American. Our founding fathers said that we're all created equal. I think every person has intrinsic worth and value...
MR. RUSSERT: But many Americans believe that that would be, that would be you imposing your faith belief...
GOV. HUCKABEE: But, no. It's not a faith belief. It's deeper than that. It's a human belief. It goes to the heart of who we are as a civilization. If I believe that your intrinsic worth is not changed by your ancestry, your last name, by your IQ, by your abilities or disabilities, if I value your life and respect it with dignity and worth because it is human, then that's what draws me to the inescapable conclusion that I should be for the sanctity of every and each human life. --Mike Huckabee, Meet the Nation, Dec. 30
I could not disagree more. There are plenty of viable candidates who are pro-life, don't say stupid things out loud, and can beat McCaskill. Why the opposition to the other candidates in the primary? Either of them could have stepped in to replace Akin and would have cleaned McCaskill's clock. Even someone like Talent or Kit Bond would have crushed her.
Instead, we are stuck with a pro-life candidate who sounds like a fool, who will lose an easily winnable seat, who could jeopardize Romney's chances of winning Missouri, and who will set back the chances of getting other pro-life GOP senators into positions of leadership in a GOP Senate. Six terms in the House gave Akin a taste of the power he craved in the Senate, and he chose to grasp at it instead of doing the honorable thing and withdrawing.
Sure. You and Claire McCaskill both agree! Like telling Daniel Pearl that it's ok, the blood is helping cleanse the wound!
I have not checked last census numbers but Kansas City, MO (NOT Kansas City, Kansas) and St. Louis were fairly close in population numbers. Now there are numerous 'burbs' around each of the named cities above. So sometimes here on the Kansas City side there can be conflicting interests on the ballot from county wide versus the Kansas City. These are usually what draws out the unions.
Unions carry a fairly big weight, and they tend to get energized when some particular ballot measure gets put on the ballot...
Well of course, he was the only pro-life candidate in the Republican Primary................oh wait, no he wasn’t.
Well I didn’t read or see any of those things, and I didn’t talk to any of those people. But on Monday morning I started calling and urging Akin to drop out. By Tuesday PM it was as clear as anything has ever been that he did not possess the political or intellectual skills to get himself out of the hole he was in.
And anybody who thinks that Republicans defending Akin or even just shutting up about him would have helped with the MSM is DELUSIONAL.
The double standard is alive and well and while at times it may be overcome, this was/is not one of those times.
I’m glad there was so much push-back against him, it was all that could be done to inoculate the rest of the republican candidates.
Another silver lining MAY be that the Dems will overplay this. An abortion, etc. celebration at their convention likely will not play well in Peoria or anywhere else.
To: Windy City Conservative
How is that nuts? Rape is about control, not sex, impregnating a woman is one way of maintaining control over her long after the sex act is finished, studies have been done to confirm this and its part of standard abnormal psychology doctrine unlike what Akin has claimed which is just bat#$%$ crazy.
Remarks from kooks notwithstanding. LOL
And then along comes Akin pumping life into the liberals sacred cow 'women's right to choose' and now who do you think those sensitive so call independents are going to vote for....What is your opinion? Do you think a woman should have the right to end the life of her child if conceived during the course of a rape? And if you do, what is your stance on abortion in general?
Yeah, just like Romney and his minions sabotaged Mcain/Palin in 2008, so Mittens could run in 2012.
The problem at the national level is that they are all selfish rentseeking POS.
Throw out the golden lizard and there is not one difference between the Southern Babtist and the Mormons. I wonder how long I will be kicked out for?
Hucksters RNC speaking slot should be removed immediately and filled by Palin. Huck cant be trusted not to bring it up.One week Huck is a hero (regarding the Chick-fil-A turnout), the next he's a bum. Why are folks so fickle?
I can see that you’re proud to destroy a good man.
Mike Huckabee has always been a principled social conservative, and he is precisely right about an orchestrated attack on a pro-life candidate. The following paragraph, though, is an indication that Huckabee has realized that social conservatives are no longer welcome in the GOP. It is an astounding thing for a major republican leader to write with such obvious bitterness. You MUST read it:
Who ordered this "Code Red" on Akin? There were talking point memos sent from the National Republican Senatorial Committee suggesting language to urge Akin to drop out. Political consultants were ordered to stay away from Akin or lose future business with GOP committees. Operatives were recruited to set up a network of pastors to call Akin to urge him to get out. Money has changed hands to push him off the plank. It is disgraceful. From the spotlights of political offices and media perches, it may appear that the demand for Akins head is universal in the party. I assure you it is not. There is a vast, but mostly quiet army of people who have an innate sense of fairness and don't like to see a fellow political pilgrim bullied. If Todd Akin loses the Senate seat, I will not blame Todd Akin. He made his mistake, but was man enough to admit it and apologize. I'm waiting for the apology from whoever the genius was on the high pedestals of our party who thought it wise to not only shoot our wounded, but run over him with tanks and trucks and then feed his body to the liberal wolves. It wasn't just Todd Akin that was treated with contempt by the thinly veiled attack on Todd Akin. It was all the people who have faithfully knocked doors, made calls, and made sacrificial contributions to elect Republicans because we thought we were welcome in the party. Todd Akin owned his mistake. Who will step up and admit the effort being made to discredit Akin and apologize for the sleazy way it's been handled?
The Akin Assault by the GOP is not just another indication that social conservatives are unwelcome in the Republican Party. It is an attack designed to destroy any voice they might have.
If we don't wake up, we will be having in America Christians tried for "hate speech" in very short order.
I rarely say this about another human being, but I actually, truly, despise Akin. I have never witnessed such damned selfishness and arrogance in a would be political figure who could easily have done the right thing early. Mr. Akin, if you or any of your sycophants read this, know that God may forgive your sin but I never will. I cannot even stomach your despicable face, which has that unintelligent “brain” behind it.
Document your claim.
Don’t just put it in quotation marks or state that your source of information is from some blogger.
I am opposed to abortion as the national methodology for birth control. Given that even our unborn are already placed into servitude before they ever draw breath. Now if the 'life' of the mother is literally in danger I am not going to tell the mother she should die to save the unborn nor would I tell her that she must live and let the unborn child die. That is God's territory for me. He is the one that gives life and also has the authority to end a flesh journey. I cannot for one minute think that a miscarriage is the end of the 'life', so why would I think the depraved acts of evil people end the 'life' through abortion.
I know beyond any shadow of doubt that alll conceptions result in the placement of a soul from the Creator. And that means none of the adults can take 'salvation' from the unborn. I am pro-life and I am anguished beyond words that we as a nation with hardly a second thought have made abortion common, acceptable, and upon demand.
I also know just talking about the evils of abortion without an elected authority to do something is vanity.
“The Akin Assault by the GOP is not just another indication that social conservatives are unwelcome in the Republican Party. It is an attack designed to destroy any voice they might have.”
The Geriatric Old Plotters have defended their bunkers, as I knew they would.
“The Tea Party will take back the GOP!”
No. The GOP coopted the Tea Party.
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I was not a fan of Mike Huckabee when he ran for president but when a man is right he is right. It has been amazing to watch how studiously his facts have been ignored and his character smeared in an attempt to discredit his words.
“Well I disagree with you. No way he would be 10 points down over a single stupid comment without Romney and co digging his grave”
They have had a lot of practice in the past 5 years or so. Its their party now.
I am opposed to abortion as the national methodology for birth control...Now if the 'life' of the mother is literally in danger I am not going to tell the mother she should die to save the unborn nor would I tell her that she must live and let the unborn child die...So if mothers are not using abortion for birth control, are you for it? And even the Catholic Church doesn't think a woman should give up her life for her unborn if she's truly in danger of losing hers. That situation is very rare anyway. I'm not sure what you meant in your last line regarding vanity as everyone is "elected" by God to push His agenda. Could you embellish on that?
I also know just talking about the evils of abortion without an elected authority to do something is vanity.
<>Document your claim. Dont just put it in quotation marks or state that your source of information is from some blogger.<>
What are you talking about???
Don’t you even read the articles at the heads of the threads???
Documentation [Assertion] here in the letter by Huckabee posted at Politico:
I agree with you. Too bad there’s not more people like us.
You betcha the weasel is referring to Sarah Palin.
What facts of Akins do you claim have been ignored?
Sorry Mike, you’re wrong on this one.
So is Todd.
And I am part of your “base” demographically.
What other purpose is an abortion outside of the 'rare' exceptions, but birth control?
That Akin is a political pilgrim being bullied?
Huckabee doesn’t have good judgement as to when someone should be forgiven and what actions should follow that forgiveness. Notoriously bad judgment.
The chronology is breathtaking. The speed and orchestration of the GOP response are clear signs that Akin's comments were being used as a pretext to get him out of the race before the Tuesday deadline. And much that has been written and said is factually incorrect. We are being told that McCaskill funded Akin's campaign by some sort of Machavellian ledgerdemain. Anyone reviewing the McCaslill campaign ads here can see clearly how viciously she was attacking him. Moreover, she created ads against the other two Reps as well.
By responding the way they did, the GOP is going to lose in the long run even if they force out Akin. The proper response should have been a statement disassociating the GOP from Akin's inartful use of language, acceptance of his apology and explanation, and finally, saying it was time to move on to those issues that are affecting the voters of Missouri--unemployment, Obamacare, debt and deficit, etc. That wasn't done because there was an agenda at play. A good and decent man has been sacrificed to the money-changers who run the GOP.
He’s right on the money this time. At any rate his facts about the internal GOP assault have nothing to do with his judgment. They are what they are.
Social conservatives have never been welcome in the GOPe.
It’s interesting how what Akin allegedly said is being blown into things he never said, with the GOPe gladly contributing to the falsehoods.
The man is pro-life and people like Rove want him gone.
We don't differ on that. That's one reason I opposed Romney as unelectable in the primary. He said one stupid thing after another. But every politician makes a gaffe at some point. And withdrawing funding and demanding resignation over that is an overreaction. That should be reserved for politicians who commit crimes or a serious moral failing like adultery.
What Akin said was idiotic, and it wasn't just a "poor choice of words" - he actually believes in what he said.
What he said came from leading medical professionals in the pro-life movement. And even those who disagree with him admitted that there is at least a slightly less likelihood of pregnancy from rape, just maybe not as dramatic as Akin seemed to think. It's a debatable issue, not something crazy or outrageous.
It's too bad that Akin isn't a Morman - Huckabee and his followers would have been leading the charge to drum him out of the race.
Uh, then why did Huckabee endorse Romney?
Clearly you haven't been to Washington DC lately.
It is so rare that the mother’s life would be lost if she kept the pregnancy to be nonexistent.
In general issues come up after the baby is viable (now after 26 weeks maybe even sooner), so there is zero reason to kill the child, just perform a C-section and the baby will live.
The so called “life of the mother” argument, is so woman can kill viable babies in the womb.
What other purpose is an abortion outside of the 'rare' exceptions, but birth control?Many women receive abortions that have used the pill, their partner, condoms, or other devices. Are you saying you are against them having abortions too, but for the woman who has been raped?
The key word from Huck being “self-inflicted.”
Take a (tax) Hike, Mike!
Thank you for the ping, dearest xzins!
It’s imperative we win that US Senate seat. I think all of his challengers were also pro-life. He’s made a mess of this election and now it’s up to candidate Akin and MO to decide the outcome.
From what I’ve read about his personal biography, he’s a good man, but I have to ponder why McCaskill’s PAC largely funded his primary campaign?
His other challenger (Brunner I think?) was backed by pro-life groups and ministers and Sarah Palin backed Sarah Steelman, who came in third.
How to get him out of the headlines? THAT challenge seems impossible. He’s become a very serious distraction and the lamestream takes its cue from the Obama campaign.
I’m not in MO, so I can only pray.
I bet you're right. Huckabee is very important among the Evangelicals, and I was waiting for him to say something because I thought Rep. Elmer Gantry (aka Akin) would do whatever he said.
But I think Huckabee has messed it up again.