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Establishment and grassroots conservatives start rallying around Ann Wagner to replace Akin
The Washington Times ^ | August 22, 2012 | Kerry Picket

Posted on 08/23/2012 2:16:52 PM PDT by Charles Henrickson

Could Missouri Republican Ann Wagner be the answer that GOP'ers are looking for? Although the first deadline passed for embattled Congressman Todd Akin, Missouri Republican, to withdraw from his U.S. Senate race against Sen. Claire McCaskill, a Democrat, without a court order and a fine, grassroots and Washington D.C. establishment conservatives I have spoken to are beginning to rally behind Ann Wagner.

She is currently running for Mr. Akin's 2nd Congressional district seat and is said to have supporters asking her to run against McCaskill should Akin leave the Missouri Senate race before the next September deadline passes. According to her bio page on her campaign website for the 2nd district. . . .

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With a conservative support network around the state, the very articulate Wagner is best suited to take on Sen. McCaskill. The true test for Mrs. Wagner will be if Missouri and the nation call, will she take on the risk and Claire McCaskill? If Wagner's track record of taking on any challenge with a smile gives any indication, McCaskill might have numerous sleepless nights ahead wishing she had not gone after Todd Akin too early.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Missouri
KEYWORDS: akin; annwagner; mccaskill; missouri; mo2012; senate; wagner
I have been advocating for Ann Wagner as the best choice to replace Akin, doing so here since Monday afternoon. I think she would do well. Solid conservative, pro-life, can think and speak on her feet, comes across well on TV, neutralizes the gender issue, etc. I think she would have a much better chance than Akin of beating McCaskill.

I live in the district that Akin represents and Wagner is running for.

1 posted on 08/23/2012 2:17:05 PM PDT by Charles Henrickson
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To: Charles Henrickson

I’ve heard they could possibly trade places... Akin run for reelection in his old seat and Wagner run against McCaskill.

That would be great if they could pull it off.


2 posted on 08/23/2012 2:21:24 PM PDT by SandyInSeattle (Eat Mor Chikin!)
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To: Delhi Rebels; darrellmaurina; AuH2ORepublican; donozark; Eric in the Ozarks; House Atreides; ...
I think Ann Wagner would be a better choice than the other names that have been floated: Kit Bond, Jim Talent, John Ashcroft, or John Danforth (the four former senators); John Brunner or Sarah Steelman (the primary runners-up); Tom Schweich (state auditor); or Jo Ann Emerson (U.S. representative).

And I don't think Akin has it in him to get out of the hole he's dug for himself. If he doesn't show strong signs of polling recovery by next week, he really needs to drop out, before the Democrat Convention.

What do you think?

3 posted on 08/23/2012 2:25:52 PM PDT by Charles Henrickson (St. Louis County, Missouri)
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To: Charles Henrickson

they are going to lose that seat thanks to a big mouth who couldnt think before he opens it. just like joe but joe is always pardoned.Akin not,


4 posted on 08/23/2012 2:29:17 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: SandyInSeattle
I’ve heard they could possibly trade places... Akin run for reelection in his old seat and Wagner run against McCaskill. That would be great if they could pull it off.

While I have voted, and would vote, for Akin, I really think he needs to drop out of sight entirely for this election cycle, and do so by Labor Day. His mere presence on any ballot, even in this safe district, would give the Dems needless ammo.

Perhaps Jim Talent could be persuaded to run for his old congressional seat. I think he'd win. Or, if they can't find anyone else, put me on the ballot! ;^) Any Republican should be able to win in this district.

5 posted on 08/23/2012 2:30:27 PM PDT by Charles Henrickson (St. Louis County, Missouri)
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To: Charles Henrickson

She’d be great.


6 posted on 08/23/2012 2:30:33 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (I didn't post this. Someone else did.)
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To: Charles Henrickson
I'm not as close to it as you, but it seems to me Akin has to be replaced. He can't recover from this IMHO.

We had a noob with foot in mouth disease lose a very winnable open Senate seat here two years ago. These opportunities don't come around very often.-

7 posted on 08/23/2012 2:32:58 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: Charles Henrickson

I’d vote for you. :-)


8 posted on 08/23/2012 2:33:40 PM PDT by SandyInSeattle (Eat Mor Chikin!)
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To: Charles Henrickson

In a sane world, Wagner would have been the candidate from the get-go and the Missouri GOP would have told Akin to stay in his district and STFU.


9 posted on 08/23/2012 2:33:54 PM PDT by PhxTM06 (")
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To: PhxTM06

Are you working for McKatKiller campaign? Do you live in Missouri?


10 posted on 08/23/2012 2:42:29 PM PDT by elephant
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To: Charles Henrickson
I was in for Steelman, but now? Afraid if she or Brunner get the nod there may be a food fight between the two. Unless they can work it out ahead of time.

Leaning toward Ann Wagner. Go off the reservation this time. She will neutralize the "rape thingy" and we can get on with defeating Mother McCaskill.

But who knows what goes on behind closed doors...

11 posted on 08/23/2012 2:42:36 PM PDT by donozark (Old Indian saying:Follow the cigar smoke, find the fat man there.)
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To: dalebert

If the seat is lost, it’s because of the GOPe and the sheep-like “conservatives” who chose to crucify a solid conservative who has served for a number of years over a single mistake. Baa baa, follow what Sean Vannity and Mitt Romney and Ann Coulter told you to do.


12 posted on 08/23/2012 2:43:33 PM PDT by RaisingCain
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To: RaisingCain

Obama and McKatKiller hate Akin because he is too conservative and Akin has been a thorn in both of their side.


13 posted on 08/23/2012 2:44:52 PM PDT by elephant
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To: Charles Henrickson

Have we heard anything definitive vis a vis the ins and outs of the Court Order route? What happens if you run into a very Dem judge who just wants to mess things up for the GOP?


14 posted on 08/23/2012 2:45:03 PM PDT by InterceptPoint (.)
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To: InterceptPoint; WILLIALAL; doug from upland; Clintonfatigued

I think the court order could be done without too much of a problem.


15 posted on 08/23/2012 2:48:21 PM PDT by Charles Henrickson (St. Louis County, Missouri)
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To: RaisingCain

Its just another career politician..


16 posted on 08/23/2012 2:48:48 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: Charles Henrickson

She could do much better and can take the fight to Sen. Clare.


17 posted on 08/23/2012 3:17:34 PM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Charles Henrickson

The problem with your recommendations, are that anyone looking at your posting history for the past couple of years, sees that you aren’t for moving the party right, you always seem to be of the Romney/Rove/Rockefeller flavor republican.


18 posted on 08/23/2012 3:18:54 PM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP goes for it's "conservative" Presidential candidates.)
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To: RaisingCain

No, because Rep. Akin did not do the right thing for both the GOOD of Missouri and the USA at a time of a very, very important major election. He put his own interests FIRST and NOT the interest of both MO and the USA.


19 posted on 08/23/2012 3:21:29 PM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: elephant

No, but I’m pretty sure you’re working for Obama Claire. Perhaps you should go back to DU and tell them that the tactics aren’t working, Akin will dropout and then Claire’s whole re-election plan is going to fall apart.


20 posted on 08/23/2012 3:24:25 PM PDT by PhxTM06 (")
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To: Charles Henrickson

You never know, by reading what I have read, Ann Wagner could “quiet” this very distracting situation. She looks very solid conservative.


21 posted on 08/23/2012 3:24:34 PM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Charles Henrickson; randita; Impy; InterceptPoint; GOPJ; Lady GOP; GOP_Lady; 1035rep; repubmom; ...
She is currently running for Mr. Akin's 2nd Congressional district seat and is said to have supporters asking her to run against McCaskill should Akin leave the Missouri Senate race before the next September deadline passes.

This entire situation is very strange. If Ms. Wagner is on the ballot for the House, logic (if not law) says she shouldn't be running for the Senate at the same time. Voters shouldn't be voting for the same candidate for two different offices, at least one of which she would have to resign from if elected to both.

Seems far better to choose one of the runners-up in the Senate primary if Akin drops out, out of deference to the primary process if nothing else.

Missouri seems to be very lax about its election laws. I recall when the Dems left Mel Carnahan on the ballot after he was killed in a plane crash and the voters elected him. Amazingly, the election of a dead man was not challenged by the GOP.

22 posted on 08/23/2012 3:27:12 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: ansel12
you aren’t for moving the party right. . . .

That's about the silliest thing I've read in a while.

For your information, I have voted for Akin for the House ever since I moved into this district. I voted for him in the Senate primary. My main reason was his solid conservative voting record. And if Akin stays in till November, I will vote for him then. I agree with Akin's conservative views on the issues.

However, I am highly doubtful he can win anymore. His wounds are self-inflicted. We need to win this Senate seat, plus we can't give any ammo to the Democrats nationally. Ann Wagner, in my estimation, would have the best chance of defeating McCaskill, and Wagner is a solid conservative, very pro-life, etc.

23 posted on 08/23/2012 3:31:59 PM PDT by Charles Henrickson (St. Louis County, Missouri)
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To: Charles Henrickson

I appreciate the insight, Charles. She may be the answer, but if Brunner and Steelman are both strongly pro-life and fought during the primary, maybe one of them deserves the shot.


24 posted on 08/23/2012 3:33:29 PM PDT by doug from upland (Just in case, it has been reserved: www.TheBitchIsBack2012.com)
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To: RaisingCain
If the seat is lost, it’s because of the GOPe and the sheep-like “conservatives” who chose to crucify a solid conservative who has served for a number of years over a single mistake.

You and the handful of Akin supports here would rather LOSE the election from top-to-bottom than for Todd Akin to be replaced with an alternative pro-life, commonsense conservative candidate.

That's political homicidal bomber insane.

25 posted on 08/23/2012 3:36:06 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Election night is 74 days away.)
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To: Charles Henrickson

Can’t find much fault with what you say. As much as I hate the way the party pounced on Akin I know why they did. I think the party should have sent a pro to help him maneuver through this & see if he could recover but the night of the election I had more than one person tell me we had just lost our chance to win the Senate seat.

As much as I would love to see someone buck the party & pull off a win, I just don’t see Akin being the one. I resent that the party will withhold funds & not even try but I guess the money will be needed elsewhere. I will still vote for him if he doesn’t step down though. The only name on your list I could get excited about is Wagner. We need a fresher face......


26 posted on 08/23/2012 3:36:47 PM PDT by PoplarBluffian
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To: PoplarBluffian
I think the party should have sent a pro to help him maneuver through this & see if he could recover. . . .

But the problem is, I don't know that Akin listens to anyone outside his evangelical, homeschooling echo chamber. He thinks he's on a mission from God, and this "persecution" just reinforces his determination. That's how I see it.

27 posted on 08/23/2012 3:41:28 PM PDT by Charles Henrickson (St. Louis County, Missouri)
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To: RaisingCain
If the seat is lost, it’s because of the GOPe and the sheep-like “conservatives” who chose to crucify a solid conservative who has served for a number of years over a single mistake. Baa baa, follow what Sean Vannity and Mitt Romney and Ann Coulter told you to do.

Absolutely correct.

It's sickening to see good men that are principled conservatives destroyed while told we have to vote for liberal swine like Romney.

And, if Romney blows the election, Akin will be blamed by the GOP-e for his loss and used as proof of what happens when a conservative is nominated.

28 posted on 08/23/2012 3:42:37 PM PDT by Kazan (Support for Romney is disobedience to God!)
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To: Charles Henrickson

His campaign manager is his son. Which means he basically has no campaigner manager and no adviser and no handlers. Now the mystery of how can he be so unprepared to answer simple questions is solved.

His campaign would have probably been disastrous even without this flub.


29 posted on 08/23/2012 3:45:09 PM PDT by Truthsearcher
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To: newzjunkey

BS! Akin didn’t drop and isn’t likely going to drop! You’re helping the GOP destroy him so that if he stays, we lose either way.


30 posted on 08/23/2012 3:50:12 PM PDT by RaisingCain
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To: justiceseeker93
Mel Carnahan was "left on the ballot" because it was the law. Missouri law did not provide for ballot changes after a certain date. He died Oct.17, 2000. His widow ran and widows always win. Ashcroft stood down and she got elected. But everyone knew who they were voting for, even though her husbands name was still on the ballot.

But now the date we all need to worry about is Sept.25. Frankly, if he was going to step down, he should have done so on Tuesday before 5PM. Now it is much more complicated. Must petition the court and their decision is subject to review by SOS Carnahan. A Dem.

31 posted on 08/23/2012 3:57:35 PM PDT by donozark (Old Indian saying:Follow the cigar smoke, find the fat man there.)
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To: Charles Henrickson

Wow, he’s that isolated, huh? It’s for sure he’s hard headed if not delusional. I’ve never really paid too much attention to him before now but I can’t help but wonder how he stayed in Congress so long. I know name recognition has a lot to do with it. I heard Emerson said she didn’t have to debate her challenger because of her name. Her staff gets upset if you call her Mrs. Gladney. LOL.

Aren’t politics grand in Mo.?


32 posted on 08/23/2012 4:05:53 PM PDT by PoplarBluffian
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To: PoplarBluffian
I can’t help but wonder how he stayed in Congress so long.

It's a safe, conservative, GOP district. Akin took over for Jim Talent. Akin has had easy elections since, with only token opposition. His voting record is solid conservative, that's why I've voted for him. I never heard him speak much. I figured if he just runs a safe campaign, stays on message, he should beat the unpopular ObamaClaire, and we'll have a reliable conservative vote in the Senate. But then this.

33 posted on 08/23/2012 4:13:31 PM PDT by Charles Henrickson (St. Louis County, Missouri)
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To: Charles Henrickson

Yep, we all thought this would be an easy win.


34 posted on 08/23/2012 4:26:39 PM PDT by PoplarBluffian
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To: PoplarBluffian
Five days running and Akin cannot emerge from the gauntlet. Not sure how much more of this he can take, or even wants. I think, however, there is beginning to be some resentment toward the media pounding he is getting nonstop. Not sure what, if anything it will translate into.

If I had been on one of my hunting trips with no tv/PC/phone,etc. and came back to this mess? I simply would not believe it...

35 posted on 08/23/2012 4:35:34 PM PDT by donozark (News flash:Todd Akin was NEVER a tower guard at Treblinka...)
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To: Charles Henrickson; fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; Impy; GOPsterinMA; randita; Sun; ...

This bears close watching. Todd Akin hasn’t entirely ruled out withdrawing from the race.


36 posted on 08/23/2012 5:02:38 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Obama and Company lied, the American economy died)
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To: Charles Henrickson

Akin is/was going through the seven stages of grief in a 24 hour news cycle. Look, he’d just won a primary, and was a lock for the senate win. In a heartbeat, these comments pop up, and immediately, instead of picking out furniture for his senate office every GOP and conservative is telling him to drop out, and telling him to so immediately. He’s in shock..in mourning..his dream is shattered.He just needs some time to process it..to realize that he will hurt the conservative cause if he stays in. The GOP has handled it wrong..and may have made it much worse..


37 posted on 08/23/2012 5:03:16 PM PDT by ken5050 ("One useless man is a shame, two are a law firm, three are a Congress".....John Adams)
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To: donozark

He’s probably lasted longer than anyone thought possible with no signs of calling it quits! You can’t make this stuff up.

I agree that a backlash might be brewing. I’ve heard a lot of negative talk about the party elites, too. Most I know think Akin should step down but have a lot of resentment for how this has gone down. They were just too much like vultures ready to swoop down & get their prey. Our Central Committe was all aglow about the good thing they had done by disinviting him to our Reagan Day event & making it in The New York times. Just a bit ago someone posted something about “It’s not about forgiveness, it’s about winning an election.” I thought that sounded a little defensive....


38 posted on 08/23/2012 5:04:30 PM PDT by PoplarBluffian
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To: Clintonfatigued

Akin is secretly huddling with a bunch of conservative Christian leaders and they’re all telling him to stay in. He’s in an echo chamber, surrounded by people who only see one side of the issue and are angry at the reaction by party leaders.

Rove was mentioned as someone they are particularly teed off at.

The rationale for his staying in is evolving from supporting the sanctity of life to teaching GOP leaders a lesson.


39 posted on 08/23/2012 5:11:02 PM PDT by randita (Paul Ryan is "Mr. Smith goes to Washington.")
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To: Charles Henrickson

Ann Wagner is instant inoculation against the Akin story.


40 posted on 08/23/2012 5:46:50 PM PDT by jimfree (In Nov 2012 my 12 y/o granddaughter has more relevant&quality executive experience than Barack Obama)
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To: Charles Henrickson
According to Akin's fanboys, any candidate in Missouri not named "Todd Akin" is a "pro-abortion RINO" that the "GOP establishment" is planning to run in his place because they "hate pro-lifers"

Never mind the reality that every Republican suggested as a replacement for him is just as solidly pro-life.

41 posted on 08/23/2012 11:58:13 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: justiceseeker93
Missouri's “open primary” gave us McCackle’s Manchurian Candidate.
42 posted on 08/24/2012 5:30:56 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (I didn't post this. Someone else did.)
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To: All
Statement from Ann Wagner

Ballwin – “As a staunch defender of the unborn I believe life begins at conception. Todd Akin's comments about rape were wrong and indefensible. Todd has apologized and understands he was wrong in what he said. It is now up to Missouri voters to decide whether they accept his apology. Our country is at a crossroads and we are facing serious issues brought on by the overreach of government in our lives, out-of-control spending and debt, and an environment that does not promote job creation and economic prosperity. I have been running for Congress in Missouri's 2nd District for 16 months and will continue to work hard to earn the trust and confidence of every voter.”

43 posted on 08/24/2012 7:47:15 AM PDT by Charles Henrickson (St. Louis County, Missouri)
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To: Clintonfatigued; fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; Impy; randita; Sun; BillyBoy; NFHale; nutmeg; ...
This is what I would do:

Offer Akin $’x’ to cover his campaign “debts” and to pay his staff to get out ASAP. Make the offer a one time, take it or leave proposition with the understanding that if he doesn't take it, him, his wife, kids, parents, siblings, mailman, owner of the gas station where he fills up, etc., will learn what the terms PAIN and SUFFERING truly mean and it will all be DUE TO HIM.

And before any of the Lawrence Welk crowd attempts to retort with some half-baked bilge, I will pre-answer that:

FY, this is a war and you either fight to win or lose; there are no “moral victories”.

44 posted on 08/24/2012 7:58:14 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (The Glove don't fit.)
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To: GOPsterinMA

I imagine some of what you propose has already transpired - in “gentlemens’ terms, of course.

Even if Akin wins, his actions during this period will not be forgotten. He can’t expect any plum assignments and he will be primaried out in 2018.


45 posted on 08/24/2012 8:48:39 AM PDT by randita (Paul Ryan is "Mr. Smith goes to Washington.")
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To: PoplarBluffian

“I can’t help but wonder how he stayed in Congress so long.”

Akin 11 years (YOS) with a 97.24 lifetime ACU rating. Talent had a 95 rating.


46 posted on 08/24/2012 9:00:40 AM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: randita

“Even if Akin wins, his actions during this period will not be forgotten.”

Never. The f**ker needs to be Murkowski-ed NOW if he won’t get out.


47 posted on 08/24/2012 9:01:57 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (The Glove don't fit.)
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To: justiceseeker93

I would not pick either primary loser, these are the people that lost to AKIN. Why be bound to either of them? The primary is past and irrelevant.

I presume Wagner would be replaced herself on the House ballot if she were the (unfortunately at this point hypothetical) replacement.


48 posted on 08/26/2012 12:11:12 AM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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