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American College of Obstetrics and Gynecology Statement on Rape and Pregnancy
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Posted on 08/23/2012 7:40:36 PM PDT by hecht

Statement on Rape and Pregnancy

August 20, 2012

Washington, DC -- Recent remarks by a member of the US House of Representatives suggesting that “women who are victims of ‘legitimate rape’ rarely get pregnant” are medically inaccurate, offensive, and dangerous.

Each year in the US, 10,000–15,000 abortions occur among women whose pregnancies are a result of reported rape or incest. An unknown number of pregnancies resulting from rape are carried to term. There is absolutely no veracity to the claim that “If it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to shut that whole thing down.” A woman who is raped has no control over ovulation, fertilization, or implantation of a fertilized egg (ie, pregnancy). To suggest otherwise contradicts basic biological truths.

Any person forced to submit to sexual intercourse against his or her will is the victim of rape, a heinous crime. There are no varying degrees of rape. To suggest otherwise is inaccurate and insulting and minimizes the serious physical and psychological repercussions for all victims of rape.

The American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists (The College), a 501(c)(3) organization, is the nation’s leading group of physicians providing health care for women. As a private, voluntary, nonprofit membership organization of approximately 56,000 members, The College strongly advocates for quality health care for women, maintains the highest standards of clinical practice and continuing education of its members, promotes patient education, and increases awareness among its members and the public of the changing issues facing women’s health care. The American Congress of Obstetricians and Gynecologists (ACOG), a 501(c)(6) organization, is its companion organization. www.acog.org


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1 posted on 08/23/2012 7:40:44 PM PDT by hecht
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To: hecht

Where ya been? Akin apologized some time ago.


2 posted on 08/23/2012 7:45:15 PM PDT by mlizzy (And if we accept that a mother can kill even her own child, how can we tell others not to kill? --MT)
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To: hecht

How many of the ACOG’s members provide those “safe, legal, and rare” abortions?


3 posted on 08/23/2012 7:46:27 PM PDT by surroundedbyblue (Live the message of Fatima - pray & do penance!)
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To: mlizzy

je apologized , but he said what he meant , and he meant what he said a morons a moron 100%.
Besides he set back the Pro-life movement big time by exposing a little know secret of the magic uterus , held by hopefully a tiny fringe element.,


4 posted on 08/23/2012 7:49:58 PM PDT by hecht (restore Hetch-Hetchy, and screw San Francisco and Pelosi)
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To: hecht

The American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists (The College), a 501(c)(3) organization, is the nation’s leading group of physicians providing health care for women. As a private, voluntary, nonprofit membership organization of approximately 56,000 members, The College strongly advocates for quality health care for women, maintains the highest standards of clinical practice and continuing education of its members, promotes patient education, and increases awareness among its members and the public of the changing issues facing women’s health care. The American Congress of Obstetricians and Gynecologists (ACOG), a 501(c)(6) organization, is its companion organization.

AND COMPLETELY 100% PRO-ABORTION!


5 posted on 08/23/2012 7:52:56 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: hecht
Each year in the US, 10,000–15,000 abortions occur among women whose pregnancies are a result of reported rape or incest.

How many from rape, how many from incest?

6 posted on 08/23/2012 7:54:16 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: hecht

>> Any person forced to submit to sexual intercourse against his or her will is the victim of rape, a heinous crime. There are no varying degrees of rape.

>> “There is no varying degree of rape”.

Well, that’s legally incorrect. But it ironically speaks to the benefit of Akin’s “legitimate rape” term.

Rape is definitively illegal. Statutory rape is illegal.

Illegitimate rape can only mean that falsely claimed. Legitimate rape must mean that truthfully claimed. Rape is indeed rape.

Akin’s was speaking on behalf of Life where rape is not a factor. No other reasonable conclusion can be made from his remarks without speculation.


7 posted on 08/23/2012 7:54:44 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: hecht

Your comment makes no sense. I’m 100% pro-life, and I understood exactly what Akin meant even though he did so awkwardly. Are you 100% pro-life? Do you believe a woman should have the right to kill her child conceived by rape or otherwise? It’s the pretenders that aren’t backing Akin.


8 posted on 08/23/2012 7:56:29 PM PDT by mlizzy (And if we accept that a mother can kill even her own child, how can we tell others not to kill? --MT)
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To: hecht

Seems like a very high number considering the fairly small window when a woman can become pregnant and the women who are draped after they are past their chide bearing years. Perhaps that also includes those get services just in case or get plan B


9 posted on 08/23/2012 7:56:38 PM PDT by airedale
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To: hecht
So you really want to treat as serious a "Study" by a political action group that claims you are 2xs as likely to get pregnant by rape then by consensual sex?

Even a rabidly pro abortion propagandist like you has to see the absurdity of that argument

10 posted on 08/23/2012 7:57:55 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: hecht

So since you’ve posted a study conducted by a pro-abortion activist organization, shall I conclude that you’re in full support of abortion??

Admittedly, Akin could have chosen his words better, but I can see his point as someone who is pro-life without exception. Your rabid attacks of a pro-life conservative is questionable at best & repugnant at worst.


11 posted on 08/23/2012 8:04:30 PM PDT by surroundedbyblue (Live the message of Fatima - pray & do penance!)
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To: mlizzy

Right on mlizzy!


12 posted on 08/23/2012 8:05:19 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: hecht

“but he said what he meant , and he meant what he said”

And that is the crux of the matter. He has offended many women, and they don’t care how many times or in what way he apologizes.


13 posted on 08/23/2012 8:06:09 PM PDT by WILLIALAL
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To: mlizzy

“I understood exactly what Akin meant even though he did so awkwardly”

Make your excuses, he said what he meant and what he believed. It wasn’t misunderstood or taken out of context.
If he was so right, why did he have to apologize?


14 posted on 08/23/2012 8:10:04 PM PDT by WILLIALAL
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To: hecht
It looks like we're finally running out of chewing gum. Wanna attack conservatives? Go to the DUmp, ya homo.
15 posted on 08/23/2012 8:16:40 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed and angry conservatives)
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To: WILLIALAL
He has offended many women, and they don’t care how many times or in what way he apologizes.
The women that are offended are those that have had abortions and CAN'T STAND the thought of someone TALKING, TALKING, TALKING, about it, as their shame (and pain) is DA*N NEAR cutting off their air supply, it is so deep.
16 posted on 08/23/2012 8:17:15 PM PDT by mlizzy (And if we accept that a mother can kill even her own child, how can we tell others not to kill? --MT)
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To: hecht; All

Its certainly curious that you posted this 40 minutes ago, have a number of responses, yet you haven’t once responded.

Are you a pro-abort troll or what??


17 posted on 08/23/2012 8:21:15 PM PDT by surroundedbyblue (Live the message of Fatima - pray & do penance!)
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To: tumblindice

Very well thought out, impressively logical response. You should be proud.


18 posted on 08/23/2012 8:21:29 PM PDT by hecht (restore Hetch-Hetchy, and screw San Francisco and Pelosi)
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19 posted on 08/23/2012 8:23:33 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong!)
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To: Jim from C-Town

when you have the facts , you argue the facts. when you have the law you argue the law. when you have neither you resort to ad hominems.

Only 14% of gynecologists perform abortions. Thats less than the percent of public support for abortion on demand. I dont think Ron Paul ever performed an abortion.
Facts are a bitch.


20 posted on 08/23/2012 8:27:34 PM PDT by hecht (restore Hetch-Hetchy, and screw San Francisco and Pelosi)
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To: MNJohnnie

Even a rabidly pro abortion propagandist like you has to see the absurdity of that argument

pro-life über alles


21 posted on 08/23/2012 8:29:48 PM PDT by hecht (restore Hetch-Hetchy, and screw San Francisco and Pelosi)
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To: MNJohnnie

Even a rabidly pro abortion propagandist like you has to see the absurdity of that argument

pro-life über alles


22 posted on 08/23/2012 8:29:48 PM PDT by hecht (restore Hetch-Hetchy, and screw San Francisco and Pelosi)
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To: MNJohnnie

Even a rabidly pro abortion propagandist like you has to see the absurdity of that argument

pro-life über alles


23 posted on 08/23/2012 8:29:51 PM PDT by hecht (restore Hetch-Hetchy, and screw San Francisco and Pelosi)
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To: surroundedbyblue

no he said what he meant and set back the normal non knuckle dragging pro-lifers way back with his and your magic uterus.
You may be surprised but there are many lifers that are educated.


24 posted on 08/23/2012 8:32:48 PM PDT by hecht (restore Hetch-Hetchy, and screw San Francisco and Pelosi)
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To: surroundedbyblue
Are you a pro-abort troll or what??
I've asked others as well.. Only a few would answer straight up. Those wanting Akin out seem to be either pro-abortion or won't admit they aren't (same thing). That's a bad stain on "conservatism."
25 posted on 08/23/2012 8:32:55 PM PDT by mlizzy (And if we accept that a mother can kill even her own child, how can we tell others not to kill? --MT)
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To: hecht

The words “magic uterus” were never uttered. And, yes, there are many lifers that are educated. I resent you referring to us as knuckle-draggers.


26 posted on 08/23/2012 8:35:22 PM PDT by surroundedbyblue (Live the message of Fatima - pray & do penance!)
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To: mlizzy

Agreed.

And what’s characteristic of them all is an unparalleled level of smugness and arrogance.


27 posted on 08/23/2012 8:36:59 PM PDT by surroundedbyblue (Live the message of Fatima - pray & do penance!)
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To: mlizzy

let see, the names raised to replace him: Brunner, Steelman, Bond Talent , Ashkroft are all pro -life and are not babbling psychotics that seem like leaders of a suicide cult.


28 posted on 08/23/2012 8:37:26 PM PDT by hecht (restore Hetch-Hetchy, and screw San Francisco and Pelosi)
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To: mlizzy

let see, the names raised to replace him: Brunner, Steelman, Bond Talent , Ashkroft are all pro -life and are not babbling psychotics that seem like leaders of a suicide cult.


29 posted on 08/23/2012 8:37:26 PM PDT by hecht (restore Hetch-Hetchy, and screw San Francisco and Pelosi)
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To: hecht; moder_ator
Besides he set back the Pro-life movement big time by exposing a little know secret of the magic uterus , held by hopefully a tiny fringe element.,
I don't like that reference. It's offensive, and I hope the moderator agrees with me and dumps your commentary.
30 posted on 08/23/2012 8:37:55 PM PDT by mlizzy (And if we accept that a mother can kill even her own child, how can we tell others not to kill? --MT)
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The redherrings in their statement is obvious and intensional (I hope, or we have illiterate MD's running loose. True or not, what he said has backing and is at least as valid as the claims that rape ncrease fertility rate. I'm a bit botherd by the numer of conservatives that can't seem to fathom "legitimate"=Actual forced rape, or that "try" does not mean prevent.

http://www.inplainsite.org/html/abortion_and_rape.html

1. Pregnancy due to rape is extremely rare, and with proper treatment can be prevented. Studies conducted by Planned Parenthood's Guttmacher Institute indicate that two consenting and fertile adults have only a 3 percent chance of pregnancy from an act of intercourse. They also indicate there are factors involved in a rape which further reduce these chances for rape victims [1]. The Guttmacher Institute says 14,000 [2] abortions per year are due to rape or incest, which amounts to just over 1 percent of all abortions [3]. Other studies show that pregnancies due to rape are much rarer than is generally thought, perhaps as few as one in a thousand cases [4]. Furthermore, since conception doesn't occur immediately after intercourse, pregnancy can be prevented in the great majority of rape cases by medical treatment that removes the semen before an ovum can be fertilized [5].

So where does the misconception come from that many pregnancies are due to rape? Fearful young women will sometimes attribute their pregnancies to rape, since doing so gains sympathy and avoids condemnation. The young woman called "Roe" in the famous Roe v. Wade case-who elicited sympathy in the court and media because she claimed to be a rape victim-years later admitted she had lied and had not been raped at all [6].

1 Jean Staker Garton, Who Broke the Baby? (Minneapolis, MN: Bethany House Publishers, 1979), 76.

2 "Who Has Abortions?" The Alan Guttmacher Institute; www.agi-usa.org/pubs/fb_induced_abortion.html. 3 "Abortion: Facts at a Glance," Planned Parenthood Federation of America, n.d., 1.

4 Willke, Abortion Questions, 146-50.

5 John F. Hillabrand, "Dealing with a Rape Case," Heartbeat, March 1975, 250.

6 Sue Reily, "Life Uneasy for Woman at Center of Abortion Ruling," The Oregonian, 9 May 1989, A2.

31 posted on 08/23/2012 8:40:53 PM PDT by Dead Dog
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To: surroundedbyblue
And what’s characteristic of them all is an unparalleled level of smugness and arrogance.
Oh, yes, you're right! The same type people that have bumper stickers that say, "Don't Like Abortion? Don't Have One." Grrrr.
32 posted on 08/23/2012 8:42:12 PM PDT by mlizzy (And if we accept that a mother can kill even her own child, how can we tell others not to kill? --MT)
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Yes and that is why there is a functioning alternative to the abortion loving college of Gyno’s.

Here is a link to AAPLOG:THE AMERICAN ASSOCIATION OF PROLIFE OBSTETRICIANS AND GYNECOLOGISTS Read up on the facts Buttercup.

http://www.aaplog.org/american-issues-2/bioethics/the-presidents-council-on-bioethics/ The ACOG: the American College of Obstetrics and Gynecology, Even requires PRO_LIFE Gynecologists to refer patients for abortion services. That is why the AAPLOG is considering leaving the ACOG ALL TOGETHER.

Yes, FACTS ARE A BITCH!

33 posted on 08/23/2012 8:48:39 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: hecht
let see, the names raised to replace him: Brunner, Steelman, Bond Talent , Ashkroft are all pro -life and are not babbling psychotics that seem like leaders of a suicide cult.
"babbling psychotics"? "suicide cult"? What is that supposed to mean?
34 posted on 08/23/2012 8:51:08 PM PDT by mlizzy (And if we accept that a mother can kill even her own child, how can we tell others not to kill? --MT)
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To: mlizzy

“The women that are offended are those that have had abortions and CAN’T STAND the thought of someone TALKING, TALKING, TALKING, about it, as their shame (and pain) is DA*N NEAR cutting off their air supply, it is so deep.”

This is so delusional it doesn’t even deserve a response. Clearly someone speaking without thinking rationally.


35 posted on 08/23/2012 9:01:02 PM PDT by WILLIALAL
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To: mlizzy

no it was Akins statement that was offensive, but ok go cwy to mommy


36 posted on 08/23/2012 9:03:35 PM PDT by hecht (restore Hetch-Hetchy, and screw San Francisco and Pelosi)
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To: hecht

hecht,

Maybe its getting late, and some of these people’s brains are operating at full capacity.


37 posted on 08/23/2012 9:05:40 PM PDT by WILLIALAL
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To: WILLIALAL

i dont know a single woman that had an abortion, but I dont know a single woman that was not offended by his idiocy.


38 posted on 08/23/2012 9:07:00 PM PDT by hecht (restore Hetch-Hetchy, and screw San Francisco and Pelosi)
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To: WILLIALAL
This is so delusional it doesn’t even deserve a response. Clearly someone speaking without thinking rationally.
It's actually pretty close to the truth, but these women can find help and healing, if only they seek it out.

Rachel's Vineyard
39 posted on 08/23/2012 9:08:35 PM PDT by mlizzy (And if we accept that a mother can kill even her own child, how can we tell others not to kill? --MT)
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To: WILLIALAL

well stated.


40 posted on 08/23/2012 9:09:42 PM PDT by hecht (restore Hetch-Hetchy, and screw San Francisco and Pelosi)
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Each year in the US, 10,000–15,000 abortions occur among women whose pregnancies are a result of reported rape or incest.

Ahhh -- the qualifier "reported". So then this is just a box that they check to get Medicaid to pay for it with no police/medical report accompanying it.

How many of these are statutory rapes that the abortion clinic should be reporting to the police but doesn't???

41 posted on 08/23/2012 9:10:28 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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“i dont know a single woman that had an abortion, but I dont know a single woman that was not offended by his idiocy.”

Same here, and its a shame, we had the seat won and now because of one egotistical politician I will have to hear McCaskill for 6 more years.


42 posted on 08/23/2012 9:11:08 PM PDT by WILLIALAL
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To: WILLIALAL
Maybe its getting late, and some of these people’s brains are operating at full capacity.
Ruh-roh!
43 posted on 08/23/2012 9:11:40 PM PDT by mlizzy (And if we accept that a mother can kill even her own child, how can we tell others not to kill? --MT)
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To: hecht
i dont know a single woman that had an abortion, but I dont know a single woman that was not offended by his idiocy.
Women talk about their abortions about as frequently as they describe the contents of their vomit. It just isn't usually discussed, and with good reason.
44 posted on 08/23/2012 9:14:55 PM PDT by mlizzy (And if we accept that a mother can kill even her own child, how can we tell others not to kill? --MT)
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mlizzy,

He has alienated hundreds of thousands of women who were GOING to vote for him. They don’t want McCaskill, but now they can’t vote for Akin, so they most likely won’t vote for the senate seat at all and that is the shame.


45 posted on 08/23/2012 9:15:19 PM PDT by WILLIALAL
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To: mlizzy

people speak to doctors about things they don’t tell others.


46 posted on 08/23/2012 9:17:10 PM PDT by hecht (restore Hetch-Hetchy, and screw San Francisco and Pelosi)
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To: mlizzy

“Women talk about their abortions about as frequently as they describe the contents of their vomit.”

You really have a distorted view of life don’t you.


47 posted on 08/23/2012 9:17:42 PM PDT by WILLIALAL
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He has alienated hundreds of thousands of women who were GOING to vote for him. They don’t want McCaskill, but now they can’t vote for Akin, so they most likely won’t vote for the senate seat at all and that is the shame.
Any woman that is offended by a man that sticks up for life and women, is a progressive type lady, not a true conservative. And where do you get your figures of hundreds of thousands?
48 posted on 08/23/2012 9:18:40 PM PDT by mlizzy (And if we accept that a mother can kill even her own child, how can we tell others not to kill? --MT)
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To: hecht; WILLIALAL
“i dont know a single woman that had an abortion, but I dont know a single woman that was not offended by his idiocy.”

Go down to your nearest abortion clinic and then tell us what you know and don't know.

49 posted on 08/23/2012 9:20:18 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: WILLIALAL
You really have a distorted view of life don’t you.
If you think being a pro-life advocate is distorted, maybe that's part of your issue with Akin.
50 posted on 08/23/2012 9:20:18 PM PDT by mlizzy (And if we accept that a mother can kill even her own child, how can we tell others not to kill? --MT)
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