Skip to comments.Report: State Dept. Considers Eliminating US Nuclear Arsenal
Posted on 08/24/2012 5:33:24 AM PDT by opentalk
Although President Obama's current defense cuts are so drastic that even Rep. Nancy Pelosi is scared they might cost Democrats more seats in the House, State Dept. advisers are reportedly encouraging further cuts and even the all-out elimination of the U.S. nuclear arsenal.
A State Dept. report addressing this issue justifies the suggestion on the grounds that possessing nuclear weapons drives other nations to "acquisition and/or use of nuclear weapons."
In other words, as long as nations like the U.S., Israel, and Russia have nukes but rogue nations like Iran and North Korea don't Iran and North Korea will continually pursue them with a willingness to use them. Yet if we get rid of ours, they will stop the pursuit of theirs... and everybody can hug and get along, naturally.
Explaining away Iran's nuclear ambitions by saying they only want such weapons because we have them is childish and irrational.
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Is anybody getting scared yet?
The USA will be disarmed by Obama’s Marxist/Muslim toadies by Jan. Should Obama and his cohorts lose, states may have to call out their National Guard troops during what could be a disastrous “lame duck” season. Would your governor do it?
If Obama is reelected you better learn how to speak Farsi.
That might be true in some cases. But does anybody think that getting rid of them will "drive" other nations to get rid of them?
And what is it worth, anyway? The genie cannot be put back into the bottle. If we (or anybody else) wanted one, it's a short haul from having none to having several. It's not like we have to do Manhattan 2.0.
I find it interesting that Pelosi is worried that defense cuts might cost them more seats in the house, nevermind the risk to the nation’s national defense/security. Real priorities their Nancy......real priorities.
Apparently, the State Department is still rather pink...even after all these years.
4 MORE YEARS, 4 MORE YEARS, 4 MORE YEARS!!!!!
Never mind all this - what about Romney’s religion and/or tax returns?
THIS is exactly the kind of thing that makes me shake my head in absolute WONDER at those who would rather see Obama win to teach the GOP a lesson.
We may have conventional weapons online that make typical nuclear weaponry a little dated. Remember a good rule of thumb is that we won’t know what the military has today until about 20 years from now. My friend who has been at Raytheon for 35 years said that although he can’t really talk about it - it’s really sci-fi stuff. Mind control, energy pulse, purely kinetic, V-Ray, - seriously “out there”
In the place of a nuclear defense,
the US State Dept suggests extermination
camps and crucifixion sites
for all non-Moslem Americans and their children
who manage to survive ObamaCARE.
How amazingly stupid. These people think that the rest of the world will behave well towards us if we just get rid of our darn nukes and then wonder loudly how somebody like Hitler came around and lead Germany.
I think we should experiment first. Get rid of all the guns that the police and government agencies carry and see what happens.
Good thinkin', Nance. Nuthin' like having your priorities straight...
Any recommendations on stock to buy that would cash in on the need to speak Russian or Chinese?
Jesus H. Christ!
We have got to get the communist morons out of government.
Life in Amerika since January 20, 2009 has been a non-stop nightmare.
I think I see a solution that would make everyone happy.
Millions of weapons and thousands of veterans, self-organized into myriad groups provide fertile ground for home-grown armies.
Economic failure (his name is Obama) is our true danger.
Thinking the same thing.
Are they really THAT stupid?
What is the real agenda. DESTROY AMERICA !!
Maybe that silly remake of the classic Red Dawn, where the North Koreans invade America might come true after all.
Now if I knew that we had an operational Thor system in orbit, I'd gladly sell our nukes for a dollar a megaton to the craziest-looking buyer I could fnd in a third-world gutter. But I doubt that we do.
Until Obama starts using that billion rounds of hollow point ammunition he just bought.
Nut job on steroids.
Maybe we could sell them on the international market to help fund alternative energy start-ups. What could go wrong?
“We have got to get the communist morons out of government.”
That’s been a great slogan since the State Department’s creation of the UN back in ‘45.
Unfortunately, Hiss’s commie heirs are still running the joint.
“Jesus H. Christ”, as you say.
The governor of Connecticut would drop to his knees in front of the Kenyan and emulate Monica.
well, gee, where else would you expect all of the leaders of the Nuclear Freeze Movement on your campus in the 80’s to find employment?
McCarthy was right.
Well folks, I’m praying for 0bama.
Praying that Almighty God lights up his muslim ass with a major league lightning bolt, leaving him a crispy critter.
Only someone who truly hates America would vote for 0bama and/or refuse to vote for his opponent. All the purists pontificating and gnashing their teeth about Romney ought to give their heads a shake and imagine a disarmed NON-nuclear America if that filthy Kenyan Communist is re-elected to another term.
If this is not evidence that State Department and much of the Federal Government has been infiltrated and taken over by agents of enemy powers, I don’t know what is.
We need a purge. Preferably one that involves prisons and waterboarding.
“Maybe we could sell them on the international market to help fund alternative energy start-ups.”
Naaa, just trade them to the drug cartels in exchange for lots of “good stuff”. That way everyone in the USA could be so stoned that no one would care when mushroom clouds started sprouting everywhere.
For the list.
The level of stupidity has now hit an all time high.
those who would rather see Obama win to teach the GOP a lesson.”
YEP........ wait a minute...... didn’t we do that in 2008???
GET ON with it folks - this election is more vital than any I have voted in and that’s been a long time. SE Mom, how do things look there in Florida for GOP. Rubio ok, FL go for R/R? what do you think from the inside looking out?
Well, it has reached critical mass now.
It’s either them or us, and I choose us.
“We may have conventional weapons online that make typical nuclear weaponry a little dated.”
Not at all. Conventional weapons are conventional and are localized. The destruction and devastation of a nuclear weapon is so far and ahead of anything “conventional.”
Your friend in Raytheon, good guy I am sure, but what your friend “knows” has nothing to do with nukes or other WMD (CNB) weapons. Raytheon isn’t into large-scale weapons and therefore, he doesn’t know WMD.
The stuff you are talking about is all sci-fi stuff. R&D in those areas and related areas are on-going, and have been for decades and decades and decades, but we don’t have that sort of stuff—not even close.
Besides, again, Raytheon isn’t into that world and your friend has no access to those programs as Rayteon doesn’t work them and he would not be briefed on them. Want to talk SBD or A/A missiles, or tactical munitions, sure, your friend is into that. But those “sci-fi” systems, no way.
...So today, I state clearly and with conviction America's commitment to seek the peace and security of a world without nuclear weapons. (Applause.) I'm not naive. This goal will not be reached quickly --perhaps not in my lifetime. It will take patience and persistence. But now we, too, must ignore the voices who tell us that the world cannot change. We have to insist, "Yes, we can."
Now, let me describe to you the trajectory we need to be on. First, the United States will take concrete steps towards a world without nuclear weapons. To put an end to Cold War thinking, we will reduce the role of nuclear weapons in our national security strategy, and urge others to do the same.
#3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament by the US would be a demonstration of "moral strength."
Straight from the Peanuts Carter playbook.
“If we’re good everyone else will be good.”
Someone needs to clue these idiots in, turning the other cheek didn’t stop you from getting the hell knocked out of you the first time, it just means your going to get hit twice.
We can have Peace in our Time!
He never said it was Raytheon weaponry. He may have, by virtue of 35 years in Defense contracting, many associates in other areas of the business. Just like I am in Oil, Gas, Mining and Municipal water, I have many associates in cryogenics and rocketry. Just the nature of being in industries that tend to cross contaminate at national conventions, seminars and other “cocktail” events.
The most worrisome aspect about this is how little influence a change of administrations has upon the careerists of the US State Department aka “Foggy Bottom”. They are appeasers, real-politik types who see everything in terms of negotiating and moral equivalency. I remember them being tied in knots about the shape of the peace table in the negotiations to end our involvement in the Vietnam War. It is the type of person who is attracted to this work so I am not sure that there is any ultimate answer to it or idiot statements like this!
Careerists should be moved to offices with no telephones, no computers and no duties. Maybe we’ll get an administration that can see the logic in doing this.