Posted on 08/24/2012 7:45:40 AM PDT by Gamecock
The dirty little secret about Buddy Passes is that some airlines charge almosr $100 each way (albeit most of it is taxes) When I worked for an airline I would always tell my friends that it would be cheaper to buy a discount ticket that almost GUARANTEES you a seat. In the rare instance I did give out one I told them the seat wasn’t guaranteed until the wheels pulled up.
I always told the lead FA that I was NR (non-rev, back in the day when they did serve meals and they were short NRs went w/o) and they appreciated it and I even scored a few extra drinks because of it.
They were stuck in SLC, not NYC.
I dunno, I've never flown on a Buddy Pass before.
The one time my family flew standby, the fact that there was four of us actually worked in our favor. We arrived at the airport for our flight to Orlando 4 hours early, (obsessive-compulsive husband, HATES to be late). At the gate, there was an earlier flight getting ready to leave. The weather in Philly was deteriorating, and they were threatening to close the airport. Southwest announced that they would allow people to go standby on an earlier flight to their destination if there were seats left. There was a couple, a group of three, and us, third in line. There were four seats on the earlier flight, the gate agent did the math and decided choosing us would fill all four empty seats.
Do we heartless conservatives even dare to ask why they flew to SLC and where/who they stayed with and how they got around while there?
when we were poor, summer vacation fun was a big zinc wash tub filled with water in the backyard, and maybe popsicles from the ice cream truck
I misread your post, I thought you said they were trying to leave NYC....
The problem is that JetBlue has three flights a day from Salt Lake City. One to the NYC area (JFK) and two to Long Beach, California.
My wife used to work for Delta. The perks are amazing!! Can you name another industry with perks that include your family, your parents and another un-related person (usually a spouse - but any individual may be named) who get to fly absolutely FREE, anytime, anywhere ... as long as there is an empty seat?
Then, each employee gets some number of (Enemy) passes they can give to friends, that allow them to travel for very low rates. I mean, if the normal fare is $300 - their fare will be in the $75 range (round trip).
When you opt for this - this is a PERK that someone else earned - and you are a benefitiary of this perk. Sometimes you may wind up sitting up front in First, sometimes you get the center seat against the restroom - and sometimes you spend the day or night at the airport.
But - when you pay next to zero; this is the risk you take. Most people know not to undertake a trip like this, on busy routes, during the high travel portions of the year. These people wanted the trip- free; and apparently felt that they were entitled to something more than the nearly free trip.
Sorry - no sympathy at all. If you can’t afford the hotel room, then you should stay home.
Yes “I dunno.” Perhaps you ought to stay out of the conversation, if you aren’t able to gasp even the basics. Yes, they were attemting to travel FROM Salt Lake. The multiple airports out east they cannot get to had nothing to do with the dilemma.
Unfortunately, this is true. There are over 24,000 fewer flights in the US today, than there were a decade ago. Taking flights around the world as a Non-Rev used to be pretty easy. Heck, I remember seeing empty seats in First Class as a regular event - and being on flights that had several (dozens) of seats unclaimed. Now, pretty much every flight I get on, is chock full. I count myself lucky if there is an empty middle seat -which is becoming more and more uncommon.
There are so many people walking the streets today with no education and no common sense. Any travelers checklist recommends taking cash for unintended expenses. If you don't have a backup plan or a way to get out of this type of predicament, then stay at home.
Fair question ..
When you have a friend/relative work for an airline; you can use a Buddy Pass to buy a ticket between point A and point B for a very reduced price.
The price you pay, depends upon the destinations.
The destinations are ONLY the airports that the partucular airlines (or it’s subsidaries) support.
If they had a Delta Buddy Pass, then there are plent of choices as you listed, however this was Jet Blue.
From Salt Lake City, Jet Blue runs 2 routes - your choices are either Long Beach, CA or JFK in New York. Jet Blue does not service those airports, from SLC. They are stuck.
Ahhhhh......that makes a little more sense, now. And it's not like you can just drive an hour and hit a major metropolis.
So, I'm a little more sympathetic to this family. But I still think that they're pretty foolish.
I would. Mama could have taken the first available flight with the little one rather than them trying for the entire family together. Truth be told, if they're that broke then they shouldn't be going anywhere on vacation. Stay home, work and pay the bills - which I'm sure they're behind on. As was said earlier, there's plenty of free things to do and see in NY. I haven't gone on a vacation for better than 10 years and then I didn't have to do it on someone else's dime.
I’ve been finding my stay at the airport to delay my flights between 6 and 16 hours and that is WITH a purchased ticket.
Screw flying standby when the airlines can’t even get passengers from point A to point B anywhere NEAR the ticketed departure/arrival times.
Actually, I’ve heard the departure and arrival times are pretty good nowadays. When we were doing all that flying we were rarely delayed more than a few minutes.
I did find it comical when, before we left, I saw out the window a maintenance man lift a panel on one of the engines and pour in a quart of oil. I saw him as I got off and asked, “So, was she a quart low?” He said, “Actually, yes.”
DING-DING-DING!! That is the right answer.
Years ago we were on the verge of getting stuck in the Atlanta because of an ice storm. The contingency plan was for Momma to go out with the baby and I would stay behind with the older two. If space was available take the middle child. If space was still available take the oldest. Then and only then would I get on the plane.
The DW go on the last flight home with the two youngest. Just before the door closed they found two more seats and the entire family got home late that night.
Point is, you have to plan and adjust fire as needed.
These folks had no plan. If they did they would have stayed home and had a staycation. We had to do that one summer. We didn't have the money to send them all to camp so the DW had what she called Camp-What-a-Momma. Every day for a week she did something fun with the kids. Parks, crafts, museums, marshmallow roasts in the yard. They had a blast.
Now my question is this, what were they doing in Utah. I'm sure it's a lovely state, but why Utah?
1. They are Mormon and wanted to go for some religious reason. Fine. I thought the Mormons take care of their own. They couldn't call someone to marshal resources?
2. They were visiting friends or family in the area. They couldn't get back to their house to to stay overnight and get some food?
3. They just wanted a vacation. Well I want a pony. Doesn't mean I get one.
My experiences may be atypical but it’s what I also observed with a friend. And frankly been my experience going back to the mid 80s. Sitting 2 hours on a tarmac (or waiting at a gate for 6 hours with clear weather) is not new.
But it is frustrating to arrive at rush hour in NYC when you were supposed to land at noon. It’s even more of an upset when you are supposed to arrive in Seatle in the afternoon and get there at 2:30 in the morning because your plane is scheduled to make a roundtrip to NYC (point A to point B back to point A) before flying you to Seattle (point A to point C) and has not left Houston (point A) for NYC by the time your flight to Seattle was to have left. Screw that logistic, get me a new damn plane.
My friend flew Vegas to Houston this summer and arrived over 5 hours late (clear weather, landed around 1am).
No way in hell would I let the airlines possibly bump me for flying standby with that miserable track record.
Well, I confess that all my experience is with Alaska, where my wife worked.
Alaska Airlines, I mean.
These people are idiots.
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