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In pictures: Scenes of chaos after New York shooting
Daily News & Analysis ^ | Friday, August 24, 2012 | Reuters

Posted on 08/24/2012 1:51:45 PM PDT by Jyotishi

Two people were killed and at least 10 were injured in a shooting outside the landmark Empire State Building in New York City on Friday, according to a New York police source. One of the dead was the shooter, the source said, adding that there was no apparent link to terrorism.

Attention: The following pictures contain scenes of death and violence


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: nyc; shooting
Prayers for the victims!
1 posted on 08/24/2012 1:51:50 PM PDT by Jyotishi
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To: Jyotishi

Are you sure this really happened? I don’t see how it’s possible in NYC. Mayor Bloomberg has designated it a “gun free” zone.


2 posted on 08/24/2012 1:56:35 PM PDT by Nervous Tick ("You can ignore reality, but you can't ignore the consequences of ignoring reality.")
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To: Jyotishi

If he had been radical muslim and screaming allah akbar there were have been no apparent link to terrorism. Janet’s only after right wing conservatives...


3 posted on 08/24/2012 1:57:26 PM PDT by GOPJ (Politics is war without bloodshed, and war is politics with bloodshed. - Mao Tse Tung. We're at war)
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To: Jyotishi

Male fashion designer of women’s accessories. Apparently the press is satisfied that he is “white” without needing to delve deeper into his lifestyle or politics. The guy who was being evicted in Texas a couple of weeks ago wasn’t making a political statement either but the press went wide with his “right wing politics”.


4 posted on 08/24/2012 2:10:38 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Only Obama put a dog on the roof of his mouth. Dogs are friends, not food.)
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To: a fool in paradise

A right-wing fashion designer. Yeah, I don’t think anyone who can fog a mirror is buying that.


5 posted on 08/24/2012 2:20:48 PM PDT by MeganC (The Cinemark theatre in Aurora, CO is a 'Gun Free Zone'. Spread the word.)
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To: Jyotishi

Let me guess: none of the victims and no one in the area was armed and able to defend themselves or others.
Thank you Mayor Stalin


6 posted on 08/24/2012 2:26:15 PM PDT by Oldpuppymax
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To: Jyotishi

And the MSM will try to link this shooting to the Tea Party some how in 3...2...1...


7 posted on 08/24/2012 2:26:54 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("OF COURSE I TALK TO MYSELF - Sometimes I need an expert opinion")
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To: Nervous Tick

Where is the MSM on this?

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-shootings-chicago-violence-august-23-august-24-violence-gunfire-20120823,0,49779.story

“19 people shot in overnight shootings across Chicago”

Nineteen people were shot across the South and West sides from Thursday evening through early Friday morning — 13 of them wounded over a 30-minute period, authorities say.

The overnight shootings peaked between 9:15 p.m. and 9:45 p.m. That’s when eight people, many of them teens, were shot at 79th Street and Essex Avenue about 9:30 p.m.

Obviously the MSM is racist and doesn’t care about black people.


8 posted on 08/24/2012 2:28:55 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Jyotishi

I understand that cops shot some bystanders - that’s where the extra injuries happened (???)


9 posted on 08/24/2012 2:29:34 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("OF COURSE I TALK TO MYSELF - Sometimes I need an expert opinion")
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To: SkyDancer
Yes, I also read that some of the "professional" NY cops shot several civilians in the crossfire.

I wonder what their civilian hit ratio was compared to the criminal.

10 posted on 08/24/2012 2:38:43 PM PDT by Prole (Please pray for the families of Chris and Channon. May God always watch over them)
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To: SkyDancer
And the MSM will try to link this shooting to the Tea Party some how in 3...2...1...

...the gun came from a state that allows the sale of guns, aka "conservative, redneck" state.

11 posted on 08/24/2012 2:41:51 PM PDT by randog (Tap into America!)
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To: Oldpuppymax
This was a very interesting one.

The murderer was targeting a single individual. He waited for a former coworker to leave the office, came up to him and shot him in the head at point blank range.

He then put the weapon inside his suit jacket and calmly walked away, hoping that he could disappear into the rush hour crowd without getting apprehended (a couple of years ago a similar event happened at rush hour and the shooter was lost in the crowd).

But a couple of construction workers saw him and started to pursue him and the commotion had already brought police to the vicinity.

The construction workers pointed him out to the cops, the murderer pulled out his weapon and there was a short street battle.

The only dead were the murderer and his victim - and even if his victim had been armed, he would have had no chance.

None of the usual cliches apply to this situation.

12 posted on 08/24/2012 2:52:43 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: Prole; SkyDancer
According to FBI statistics, the police (all agencies included) are six times more likely to shoot an innocent bystander that a civilian using a firearm in a legitimate defensive role.

This statistic hasn't changed in years, and the FBI no longer updates it.

One would wonder why.

13 posted on 08/24/2012 2:56:44 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Prole
I also read that some of the "professional" NY cops shot several civilians in the crossfire.

It was during the morning rush on 34th Street near 5th Avenue - in other words there were probably between 10 and 15 thousand people running around well within range of a service Glock.

He was on the run, was already firing, he had his pick of potential hostages and the police needed to put him down quickly.

There are very few people alive on earth who could have avoided inflicting collateral injuries in that situation.

14 posted on 08/24/2012 2:58:16 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: GOPJ

***If he had been radical muslim and screaming allah akbar there were have been no apparent link to terrorism.***

I don’t think terrorism was blamed when a moslem, shouting “allah akbar” shot up the observation deck back in the late 1990s.


15 posted on 08/24/2012 3:27:58 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Tyrannies demand immense sacrifices of their people to produce trifles.-Marquis de Custine)
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To: Jyotishi

We haven’t heard how the bystanders were hurt — half of them probably tripped and skinned their elbows, and will sue everyone.


16 posted on 08/24/2012 3:41:20 PM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: wideawake
It was during the morning rush on 34th Street near 5th Avenue - in other words there were probably between 10 and 15 thousand people running around well within range of a service Glock.

He was on the run, was already firing, he had his pick of potential hostages and the police needed to put him down quickly.

There are very few people alive on earth who could have avoided inflicting collateral injuries in that situation.

What utter garbage.

You know that old nut cops love to drag out when they DON'T protect someone? That they have NO obligation to protect ANYONE?

Likewise, they have NO authority to shoot when they could endanger innocent bystanders. Not to mention that their guns have SIGHTS. And they supposedly have TRAINING. That goes with the BADGE that lets THEM have guns while OTHER people DON'T.

These cops screwed the pooch so bad, THEY should be personally responsible for millions in damages. As it is, NYC will have to pay.

Your value system is ass-backwards.

Go wipe the boot polish off your tongue.

17 posted on 08/24/2012 3:43:22 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Talisker

Hear hear!


18 posted on 08/24/2012 4:10:44 PM PDT by Bon mots (When seconds count, the police are just minutes away...)
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To: Talisker
You can make all the personal comments you like, but there are facts you can't wish away.

The first is that the police can't just allow an armed murderer who is firing shots at them to continue uninterrupted. While I realize that you despise police officers with a pure and righteous hatred, they still have a personal right to self-defense.

The second fact is that the laws of physics make it difficult for 99.999% of human beings in the described situation to use a firearm in that situation and have 100% accuracy.

You appear not to realize that over a million people make their way through midtown Manhattan at that hour.

19 posted on 08/24/2012 4:15:56 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: Nervous Tick

Considering that Bloomberg admitted that some of the injured could have been accidently shot by police, he needs to be reminded that gun control should start with the NYPD.


20 posted on 08/24/2012 4:54:06 PM PDT by patriotsblood
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To: Talisker
Update: looks like two cops involved used their weapons and they fired a combined 16 rounds, seven of which hit the murderer. Nine passersby were injured, six of them were grazed by ricocheting bullet fragments and did not require medical attention. Three did require medical attention, with one requiring an overnight stay.
21 posted on 08/25/2012 5:30:21 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake
Read Navy Patriot's post #13 here.

It's interesting you refer to the civilians who were shot by the NYPD as an "injury."

Last time I checked, one gets injured when falling out of a tree and one gets WOUNDED when hit by a bullet.

Regardless, New York and it's Stalinist democrat population can rot in hell for all I care.

22 posted on 08/25/2012 6:29:44 PM PDT by Prole (Please pray for the families of Chris and Channon. May God always watch over them)
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To: Navy Patriot

I certainly believe that data, given the recent revelation that the NYPD shot more civilians than the perp did.


23 posted on 08/25/2012 6:31:08 PM PDT by Prole (Please pray for the families of Chris and Channon. May God always watch over them)
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To: Talisker

Amen!!!


24 posted on 08/25/2012 6:32:16 PM PDT by Prole (Please pray for the families of Chris and Channon. May God always watch over them)
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To: Prole
The reason that civilians do such a good overall job, including avoiding hitting innocent bystanders, in responding to criminal threat in self defense situations, is because there are consequences for screwing up.

For cops, the consequences for screwing up are several weeks off at full pay and bennies, and the taxpayer picking up the tab for the tort.

25 posted on 08/25/2012 7:24:43 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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