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Is Fox News Also a Leftist Propaganda Outlet?
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Posted on 08/25/2012 2:09:16 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie

Last night at approximately 7:30 p.m., Fox New's Carl Cameron was reporting on Mitt Romney's comments that "Nobody has asked to see my birth certificate".

Cameron stated "Romney said Barack Obama's birth certificate is authentic", when what Romney actually said was that he (Romney) believes Obama was born in Hawaii.

Cameron also stated: "Most people think President Obama's birth certificate is legitimate". While this statement may on the surface, be true, it is shameless disinformation. What does it matter what most people think on this issue? Most forensic experts who examine the document have stated there are some obvious flaws in the document that make it likely it was tampered with.

My question to fellow Freepers is this: why is Carl Cameron of Fox News assuming the role of Obama Administration propagandist? Does he feel the pressure from the Administration's FCC? This is blantant disinformation, and it is coming from Fair and Balanced Fox News! Why won't Fox News report the truth on this issue?


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1 posted on 08/25/2012 2:09:25 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: The_Media_never_lie

I saw that clip and it showed Romney as you said but didn’t Romney also say either he (Obama) was a citizen or that he believed Obama was a citizen? I wasn’t paying 100% attention to the segment.


2 posted on 08/25/2012 2:21:09 AM PDT by beenaround
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To: The_Media_never_lie

Huh?

3 posted on 08/25/2012 2:21:09 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: The_Media_never_lie
Watch this:
http:www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwhKuunp8D8&feature=player_embedded
4 posted on 08/25/2012 2:24:45 AM PDT by DeaconRed (My vote in Nov will be dictated by my extreme hatred for ZERO and what he is doing to our country.)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

Depends on what you mean by leftist..
If a Rino is leftist well then YES...
O’Really who claims to be independant is a RINO..

He runs the place.. Shemp Smith is a flaming leftist..
And Greta I think is a democrat.. acting as a RINO..
And “Eddie Munster” Cavuto seems to fairly conservative sometimes..

Maybe Hannity is a conservative.. but he let’s Juan Williams piss on his leg and tell him the rain is warm today.. He couldn’t out argue PeeWee Herman..

There are fairly conservative people on Fox BUT they are not very smart.. most of them..

But thats all there is(Fox).. the only game in town..
All the good arguers are democrats except for Newt..


5 posted on 08/25/2012 2:25:00 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

Carl Cameron is a Democrat who voted for Obama, and it shows.


6 posted on 08/25/2012 2:30:34 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: beenaround

I quit watching most Fox shows after the Sarah Palin hit piece started by “campaign Carl” the day after the 08 elections. I watch F&F and Cavuto


7 posted on 08/25/2012 2:31:05 AM PDT by personalaccts (Is George W going to protect the border?)
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To: The_Media_never_lie; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; NFHale; ...

Silly

FNC is the Republican party channel, like it(them) or not.

MSNBC is the Dem party channel

This issue is the least of my concerns. What bothers me is how FNC Republican channel won’t go near(oppose) the advancement of the Gay agenda.

Birthers made themselves look silly claiming a single Federal judge would order Obama to leave the WH, and then following scam artist Trump (and liberal) who made them look like fools. They hurt their own cause. This issue could have been made useful to hurt Obama but was wasted by fools.


8 posted on 08/25/2012 2:33:21 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is still a liberal. Just watch him. (Obama-ney Care ))
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To: hosepipe

Re: #5.

You summarized the Fox reporters very well.

Oreilly panders shamelessly to the left. It is as if he is hoping to get that interview with Obama. He has the Southern Poverty Law Center hate mongers/shakedown artists on, and treats them like they are a respectable organization.

Yes, Fox is the only game in town. Hannity’s show was quite good last night covering the disillusioned “Hope and Change” voters.


9 posted on 08/25/2012 2:33:59 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: beenaround

...”Even companies whose news outlets are often perceived as having a conservative bias have given significantly more money to Mr. Obama. Rupert Murdoch’s News Corporation, for example, has contributed $58,825 to Mr. Obama’s campaign, compared with $2,750 to Mr. Romney.”

http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/08/22/donations-by-media-companies-tilt-heavily-to-obama/

Murdoch’s (owns FOXNEWS) contributions say it all. Glen Beck says we will see the extent of the FOXNEWS leftist beliefs when some of today’s popular FOX conservatives leave or retire. Would these leanings explain why no one there is ALLOWED to discuss Obama’s eligibility to be president? The danger America is in cannot even be imagined.


10 posted on 08/25/2012 2:34:25 AM PDT by jazzlite (esat)
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To: txrefugee

Carl Cameron has always been contrary to conservative values. I just turn him off..I believe he would schmooze Satan to get ahead..That is just my opinion of him.


11 posted on 08/25/2012 2:39:25 AM PDT by jazzlite (esat)
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To: txrefugee
Carl Cameron is a Democrat who voted for Obama, and it shows.

Carl Cameron is a shameless propagandist who should be on MSNBC.

12 posted on 08/25/2012 2:41:42 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: The_Media_never_lie

It is what they say...Fair and Balanced, unlike the others.
As someone who had been FOX deprived for about 8 years, just this year I got a new satellite service, G-Sat.
Prior to G-sat, there was only Dreamsat which carried only
Commie News Network International and British Babble Corp.
The G-sat has FOX and Aljazera, and NO CNN or BBC.

Frankly, I was amazed at how good they are at bashing Obumbo and the Commies.
Yes, they have their token Marxist, Beckel (sp) Colms, and a few others, but all in all, I have been quite impressed.
They obviously know that America is in the lurch. If we do not get rid of Obumbo, America will cease to resemble the country that we grew up in.


13 posted on 08/25/2012 2:42:35 AM PDT by AlexW
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To: jazzlite

Murdochs donations to Obama could very well be a tactical move to quell screams from the Left over how “biased” FNC is towards the right.

To be frank, at this stage of the game Obama’s eligibility is not an issue in his reelection. In fact it is a distraction from the all important message of the economy and jobs.

Nothing will come of the accusations over his eligibility. He will NOT be removed from office because of it even if definitive proof is uncovered and published. The reason I believe this is I don’t think the Congress or the Courts have the courage to do the right thing even when it is so important it be done.


14 posted on 08/25/2012 2:44:39 AM PDT by beenaround
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To: txrefugee

The night of the election Bush v. Gore Cameron stood outside Gore’s place just blubbering and sobbing. Please. How he even kept his job after that is amazing. How he even is allowed to be a journalist after that is amazing.


15 posted on 08/25/2012 2:49:41 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

Fox News have their talking point that Obama’s birth certificate is legit and they all stay on that message. It’s disappointing from a news organization that says they’re “fair and balance”.


16 posted on 08/25/2012 2:54:05 AM PDT by HarleyD
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To: The_Media_never_lie
Is Fox News Also a Leftist Propaganda Outlet?

The short answer is YES, Fox News has a leftist tendency that is increasing or moving to the left. You only need to know one thing about Fox to conclude that they are biased. Fox News has "blacklisted" Michael Savage. That is all you need to know.

In all probability, President Obama is fully qualified to serve as POTUS because his alleged real father was a citizen of the USA, as was his mother.

17 posted on 08/25/2012 3:04:55 AM PDT by olezip
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To: personalaccts

Carl Cameron is a turd.


18 posted on 08/25/2012 3:09:45 AM PDT by eCSMaster ('Nancy Pelosi is a DINGBAT.' - Gov. Sarah Palin)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

Fox is a shill for the Republican party, but given that the party is infested with liberals, Fox is going to tout the liberal agenda. It was particularly evident when Fox annointed Mitt Romney as the nominee before the first primary was held. Oh, it gave air time to other candidates, but it was all for show. Watch the interviews and the commentary on the other candidates. You can see it was all skewed in favor of the Republican liberals’ favorite candidate.


19 posted on 08/25/2012 3:29:58 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: The_Media_never_lie

Roger Ailes calls the shots at FNC. He’s not interested in the birther issue or any other so called speculative issue. That was made plain when he got rid of Glenn Back.

Why he keeps Shepard Smith is a mystery to me.


20 posted on 08/25/2012 3:52:52 AM PDT by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: jazzlite

“Would these leanings explain why no one there is ALLOWED to discuss Obama’s eligibility to be president?”

Even Rush Limbaugh brought up the birther issue yesterday. He finally got brave enough to peek out from behind Romney’s skirt now that Romney and Ryan are taking it to the Kenyan.

Except for Hannity and Savage, most of these brave conservative icons like Rush, Coulter, and Beck wouldn’t touch the birther issue with a ten meter pole.


21 posted on 08/25/2012 3:53:48 AM PDT by A'elian' nation (Political correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred. Jacques Barzun)
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22 posted on 08/25/2012 3:53:48 AM PDT by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: The_Media_never_lie
i don't care where the SOB was born.
It's where he is now living that I don't like.
November should take care of that. . . . . . .
23 posted on 08/25/2012 4:01:35 AM PDT by DeaconRed (My vote in Nov will be dictated by my extreme hatred for ZERO and what he is doing to our country.)
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To: The_Media_never_lie
http:www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwhKuunp8D8&feature=player_embedded

This is ZERO saying in his own words that he was born in Kenya.

24 posted on 08/25/2012 4:04:42 AM PDT by DeaconRed (My vote in Nov will be dictated by my extreme hatred for ZERO and what he is doing to our country.)
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To: beenaround

...”Nothing will come of the accusations over his eligibility. He will NOT be removed from office because of it even if definitive proof is uncovered and published. The reason I believe this is I don’t think the Congress or the Courts have the courage to do the right thing even when it is so important it be done”...

I know you are exactly correct about this. It is just so hard for me to experience the trashing of our Constitution with barely a whimper from our Congress, our courts and the big microphones. Also, the double standard is so stark in the case of Obama, whom we really know very little about. My family will be going to see “Obama’s America” this weekend. Drudge says it is #1 at the box office now..We will see whether it makes any difference to people who seem not to understand that we are losing our country. I could never have imagined a time in my life when we would have a President who was not allowed to be vetted.


25 posted on 08/25/2012 4:09:55 AM PDT by jazzlite (esat)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

Fox is slightly left of center.


26 posted on 08/25/2012 4:16:09 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: A'elian' nation

...”Even Rush Limbaugh brought up the birther issue yesterday. He finally got brave enough to peek out from behind Romney’s skirt now that Romney and Ryan are taking it to the Kenyan.

Except for Hannity and Savage, most of these brave conservative icons like Rush, Coulter, and Beck wouldn’t touch the birther issue with a ten meter pole”...

And, it is sort of like the “elephant in the room.” Almost everyone who is even slightly informed wants to know who Obama really is. Perhaps he is eligible..We just need to know. There have been so many lies and half-truths and very little history where classmates, girlfriends, boyfriends, friends or neighbors have come forth to endorse the fact that he is who he says and that he was where he claims to have been during certain periods of his life. I believe many Americans are very nervous about all that and rightly so.


27 posted on 08/25/2012 4:22:21 AM PDT by jazzlite (esat)
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To: jazzlite

Legislation needs to be passed requiring ALL candidates whose office can only be held by what is deemed a natural born citizen to produce irrefutable proof of said citizenship when they submit all the other paperwork necessary to declare themselves a candidate.

To date there is a requirement stating only such citizens can occupy the WH but no mechanism to require the candidate to provide proof of being a natural born citizen.


28 posted on 08/25/2012 4:27:46 AM PDT by beenaround
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To: The_Media_never_lie

IIRC, the Saudis have a controlling interest in Fox?

Fox strikes me as “soft left,” meaning it is still to the Left, but not s much as the other networks. Still, Fox seems to take every opportunity to advance RINOs and to attack conservatives. They may have a few shows like Glenn Beck, but for the most part, their reporting and commentary has many of the same biases as the other networks.


29 posted on 08/25/2012 4:34:04 AM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (Science puts you on the moon, atheism puts you in the gulag)
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To: The_Media_never_lie
fox news is a leftist company. Glen Beck THIS WEEK stated that rupert murdoch has given obama 15,900 dollars so far this cycle. I watched fox from the first day they were on C-Band satellite... before cable had them... before DTV or Dish had them... and they have changed 180 degrees from what they were. I no longer watch them or lend credence to anything that they are associated with. They cannot be trusted.

LLS

30 posted on 08/25/2012 4:40:02 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Sarah speaking at the romney convention would be like Led Zeppelin opening for The Monkees)
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To: onyx
Maybe he and shemp are... simpatico? Nothing would surprise me. roger ailes slammed fox to the left the day he fired Brit Hume's wife who had been News Director for years... less than a year later... Brit retired. That tells the story. fox is a sad example of what Rush Limbaugh stated. “Any organization that is not EXPLICITLY Conservative will turn liberal... in each and every case. Just look at the Ford Foundation or the Annenberg Foundation. Both were started by conservatives but were not explicitly conservative in their Charter and are both now part of the hard left.

LLS

31 posted on 08/25/2012 4:51:43 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Sarah speaking at the romney convention would be like Led Zeppelin opening for The Monkees)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

It’s the only news outlet that I watch on TV but it appears based on a lot of post here that it’s not “right” enough.

They do, in my opinion at least provide two sides to arguments most of the time althought I’ll never agree with the liberal scum.

Hannity, Greta, O’Rielly are not news by any means it’s commentary. I won’t watch Sheppard Smith because he’s about as flaming as it gets. I like the Five but Bob Beckel is an idiot and his main addiction is leftist stupidity not drugs and alcohol.

Not sure what folks are looking for on TV news wise but outside of putting on your own personal news show that’s all about them and their own opinions all the time is an impossible task.


32 posted on 08/25/2012 5:06:51 AM PDT by maddog55 (OBAMA: Why stupid people shouldn't vote!)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

They’ve been threatened on this issue. Arpaio’s Cold Case Posse has corroborated that story.

I don’t believe it is an accident that Andrew Breitbart dropped dead on the day of Arpaio’s first presser about the eligibility issue, less than 5 hours after Breitbart had spoken with Arpaio and told him Arpaio’s info was good and that he was glad Arpaio was bringing it into the open.

I also don’t believe it was an accident that Rush Limbaugh received what he perceived as a bomb threat - including reference to 2 famous assassinations - on the same day.

Nor do I believe it is coincidence that all of the major media refused to report Arpaio’s actual evidence leading him to conclude that the long-form BC is a forgery, that Obama was referred to by Bill Ayers’ parents as a foreign student that they were helping, and that Obama’s draft registration is a forgery perpetrated by the Selective Service Administration itself.

Nor does it surprise me now, that even though HI registrar Alvin Onaka has actually confirmed through a legal document that Obama’s HI birth record is not legally valid, the media didn’t bother to even understand what Onaka actually said and so they reported the exact opposite.

The legal fact of what Onaka did doesn’t just go away though, and people will soon be made aware of that. Including the dinosaur media.


33 posted on 08/25/2012 5:06:51 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: The_Media_never_lie

Even Fox News falls prey to the Progressive propaganda from the comrade democrats. Propaganda is insidious, as is disinformation. Communists were experts in both areas.


34 posted on 08/25/2012 5:20:29 AM PDT by Rapscallion (Obama - Can you afford to keep him?)
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To: The_Media_never_lie
At MSNBC and CNN they make no pretense about who is talking. At Faux News you never know. Does any trust reports about Gay “marriage” from Shemp Smith? Does anyone believe BORe and Hume are the conservatives they pretend to be? You think Krauthammer is what he is billed as? No No No at Faux they must pretend. I gave up watch Faux News long ago and was reminded of the wisdom of my decision when their new poll came out. Two weeks ago Obama was + 9 now Romney is +1. What other polling firm showed a 10 point swing in two weeks? They were just embarrassed by the last poll and ran to reality.
35 posted on 08/25/2012 5:29:28 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: LibLieSlayer

I didn’t know about the firing of Hume’s wife. You might have something there with Roger and Shepard. Something keeps that snotty RAT Shepard on the air. He makes too many egregious mistakes.


36 posted on 08/25/2012 5:49:21 AM PDT by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

No.

You begin from the erroneous premise that Fox News is a conservative network that must put forward that which you consider to be conservative.

It is not


37 posted on 08/25/2012 5:57:24 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: The_Media_never_lie

I myself don’t really trust Fox News. I was wondering why they quit letting people leave comments?


38 posted on 08/25/2012 6:04:24 AM PDT by HolyMoleybm
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To: The_Media_never_lie

I don’t care about news that is “fair an balanced.” I care that news is “honest and accurate.”

I fear that in my lifetime that will never happen.


39 posted on 08/25/2012 6:39:51 AM PDT by Dutch Boy
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To: personalaccts

Fox Business News is still watchable, but Fox News isn’t.


40 posted on 08/25/2012 6:59:50 AM PDT by jpsb
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To: sickoflibs

This issue, along with many others, will lead to Obama’s demise on election day.


41 posted on 08/25/2012 7:05:16 AM PDT by John W (Viva Cristo Rey!)
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To: jmaroneps37
“Two weeks ago Obama was + 9 now Romney is +1. What other polling firm showed a 10 point swing in two weeks?”

I think it was Baer who explained that the previous poll showing the big Obama lead was the LAST of the “registered voter” (RV) polls and the newest poll showing the Romney lead was the FIRST of the “likely voter” (LV) polls.

LV polls are much more expensive than RV polls because they require numerous additional questions of each person polled to filter out the persons who are registered but NOT likely to vote. Rasmussen is the only major poll that is always LV and has always had Barry capped in the mid-40’s (losing!). Now Fox's first LV poll confirms that.

In the final months of the campaign several of the large polls switch from doing RV polls to LV polls. The average of polls on RCP (a mash-up of RV and LV) will increasing show Romney improving as the RV polls are washed out or overwhelmed by the more accurate LV polling, IMO.

Regarding FOX anti-birther stance, Ailes is about winning, as is the GOP-e and threatened or not. Absent a new revelation of evidence that Barry was born in Kenya, the moderate swing voters needed to drag Romney over 50% cannot be educated or persuaded by the “birther” issue prior to the election on the BC forgery claim alone, given the failure in the courts and suppression and Alinski mockery in the MSM, so GOP-e is focusing on Barry's record in office.

42 posted on 08/25/2012 7:23:20 AM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: onyx
Somebody over there likes him way too much. ;-)

LLS

43 posted on 08/25/2012 7:40:10 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Sarah speaking at the romney convention would be like Led Zeppelin opening for The Monkees)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

Actually, some of that constitutes false advertising, on the part of Fox “NEWS”, “OPINIONS”, including this one are not “NEWS”. The media has been disguising opinions as news for quite some time now and they should not be allowed to do that, raised eyebrows and dumb looks should not be a part of “NEWS”.


44 posted on 08/25/2012 8:38:57 AM PDT by Gertie
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To: Gertie

I mostly care about whether or not a “media outlet” even reports a given story or not, or gives it adequate coverage time.

ABCNNBCBS do not.

But they do tend to make crap up.


45 posted on 08/25/2012 8:48:12 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: hosepipe
O’Really who claims to be independant is a RINO..

He is a unionRAT who does a pp job of pretending to be "moderate" he just looks stupid.

Greta is what she is, but she brings on Sarah and Rush and seems un-affiliated.

I think Hannity does a good job despite his shrillness. He brings on leftie screamers and lets them make fools of themselves.

Full disclosure. I am no longer a FNC subscriber.

46 posted on 08/25/2012 8:55:19 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: Seizethecarp
LV polls are much more expensive than RV polls because they require numerous additional questions of each person polled to filter out the persons who are registered but NOT likely to vote.

Come on!

If they can find out who is a registered voter, they can find out who voted in the last general and primary elections.

That is more reliable information than just asking them, they could lie.

47 posted on 08/25/2012 9:11:37 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

I would prefer to defeat Obama based on his positions on the issues, his policies, the things that he has done, etc. I actually think he was physically born in the U.S., but grew up with a value system that is very contrary to that which this country was founded upon. He doesn’t believe the U.S. is exceptional - he doesn’t believe in private property rights - he doesn’t believe in limited government, etc. It is these issues that we must focus on. Even Dinesh D’Souza said he believes that Obama was born in Hawaii - but no one will ever accuse D’Souza of being on Obama supporter.


48 posted on 08/25/2012 5:26:32 PM PDT by grundle
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49 posted on 08/25/2012 5:27:44 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Rapscallion

Propaganda and disinformation are both evil. It is scary as an American to see how easy it is for the media to mislead the American people. Most people do not question what they are told by the MSM, or if they hear it enough they will believe it.


50 posted on 08/25/2012 6:21:31 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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