Skip to comments.Ohio doctor helps perpetuate rape pregnancy ideas
Posted on 08/25/2012 3:23:52 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
COLUMBUS, Ohio -- The discredited notion that a woman's body can resist conception in a sexual assault has persisted in anti-abortion circles for decades, largely because of the efforts of a Cincinnati obstetrician who is considered a godfather of the movement.
Dr. John C. "Jack" Willke founded the National Right to Life Committee and wrote the influential 1971 "Handbook on Abortion," which has shaped the thinking of generations of anti-abortion activists.
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The bigger problem with a rape exception is that it is falsely reported more often than not and that rape now includes anything including the woman waking up and deciding “I didn’t really want to do this” after the fact.
Glenn Beck quoted a study where “rape” resulted in 2x the number of pregnancies but I think that study included self reported “rape” which includes scared girls making an excuse for an existing pregnancy..
FWIW I’m not a medical doctor but based on other mammals in stressful situations (zoos?) I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised if it wasn’t proven at some later time that high stress does greatly reduce fertility.
Why would anti-abortionists would make an issue out of the low incidence of pregnancy due to rape, it is irrelevant to the question of abortion.
From the article:
“The discredited notion that a woman's body can resist conception in a sexual assault has persisted in anti-abortion circles for decades, largely because of the efforts of a Cincinnati obstetrician who is considered a godfather of the movement.”
“Dr. John C. “Jack” Willke founded the National Right to Life Committee and wrote the influential 1971 “Handbook on Abortion,” which has shaped the thinking of generations of anti-abortion activists.”
“Anti-abortion activist Janet Folger Porter has Willke’s handbook in her reference library. She said it's popular worldwide because it isn't filled with emotional arguments and religious dogma, but hard facts.
“It's spelled out in Q-and-A form,” she said. “The whole thing is not Dr. Willke’s opinion or dissertation on the issue. It's independent studies, all of them cited, by issue.”
Akin is a moral man who, as none of us are, is not perfect. Anyone who claims that anyone of our government is better qualified to represent us with integrity is either on the wrong side or evaluating with the wrong criteria.
The left, including the gop-e and those fearful of being judged based on political correctness are reacting as if embroiled in lynch-mob mentality. They're failing to use their minds to review the truth and context... or they have their own "means to an end".
I wonder what medications he was referring to, and whether some people would have a problem with their use. Of course this was in 1971.
Maybe it's a sign of the financial status of the Sacramento Bee that they're asking website readers to "Live chat with intuitive and gifted psychics".
The bigger problem with a rape exception is that it is falsely reported more often than not and that rape now includes anything including the woman waking up and deciding I didnt really want to do this after the fact.Yes! True! The following comes from a man who agrees with you. Whole post is a good read, btw:
But in addition, there are two practical political reasons why not to allow these exceptions:
First, if only a rape or incest claim will get someone an abortion, then lots of people who didnt get pregnant that way will claim that they did, to qualify for the loophole. The desire of some to get a legal abortion will lead them to tie up the criminal justice system with nonexistent accusations borne of fear and desperation if not malice, and the abortions will occur anyway, just at greater cost.
Second, if we allow these exceptions, we are violating one of the great tenets of jurisprudence: Hard cases make bad law. If something is an extreme rarity, then it should not drive our policy. Its an imperfect world; if you insist on perfection, youll fall farther from the mark than if you had accepted the reasonable. And we know that pregnancies resulting from rape or incest are an incredibly small minority of pregnancies. Except as a political football, the question of allowing abortion as a consequence of rape is simply too small a statistic a sad, even tragic statistic, yes, but still too small a statistic to justifiably drive the conversation. --John F. Di Leo
Nor adrenal production, nor any other stress induced physical reactions.
It is an empirically non provable statement either way.
How about the fact rape is an under reported crime? You say falsely but the other side of the equation is the stigma and embarrassment attached to it. Many rapes are never reported.
I work with aguy that believes rape victims that get pregnant, subconciously wanted and enjoyed it!!
American indians used to use a concoction made from mayapple root to cause abortion and to deal with skin cancers and genital warts. It works but is not without risk to the user. Too much, the user dies along with the fetus; too little and the user get a child but with birth defects; and it can cause halucinations, stupor, etc. Early settlers used it as well, and it is still collected today for the pharmaceutical industry for skin cancer treatments.
I wonder what medications he was referring to, and whether some people would have a problem with their use. Of course this was in 1971.I would think some would have an issue with the "medications" he suggests (possibly they are herbs or essential oils or stronger; we are distributors of Young Living's oils, and they have cautions on a few of them that they are not to be taken by a pregnant woman as they can induce labor), and the only "vaginal scraping" I know of is a D&C, which IS an abortion, or the removal of contents from a miscarriage. Link
Another Quack thesis.
This is exactly why Akin said what he said, and he should not be pilloried for his comments the brutal way that he has been.
So far as the word “legitimate”, it has 5 meanings which are recorded in Webster, and one of them is “actual”. That is the one he meant. He was distinguishing violent rape with statutory rape, false reports of rape (didn’t happen), and false reports of rape that were actually consentual but reinterpreted, for example, to prevent parental anger.
The Duke LaCrosse case is one example of the above that he was trying to distinguish.
In many ways, the word legitimate was a weak word choice, but in other ways it was fine, IF you were tracking with him and understood what he was thinking.
It is standard medical practice for physicians to strongly advise women who are trying to conceive to avoid high levels of stress. It is well documented that traumatic events can trigger miscarriages. So the science is there.
Yup, right on queue. Akin has delivered the liberal media a narrative they can use against pro-lifers and the larger conservative movement. Nice going guys, gg
Hemingway was a subscriber to the theory that a writer should never use a ten letter word (legitimate) when a five or six letter word (actual) conveys the same meaning.
Akin violated that rule. I didn’t know that the penalty for such a violation was death.
Words vs action.
Its real nice that the GOP is waving the pro life banner but the fact is that they’re moving toward a more pro choice stance.
All the attention and fire directed at Akin and virtually no mention of Scott Brown’s announcement of his pro “choice” stance. Its a little hard to swallow that the GOP is pro life when they’ve made such a clear move toward abortion.
Have any of you noticed that the loudest, most obnoxious of the supporters of Mitt Romney here on FreeRepublic are also the loudest and most frequent supporters to deep-six Akin?
Have you also noticed the pattern that the loudest and most obnoxious of Mitt Romney supporters are also the most moderate of so called conservatives here on FreeRepublic? Either having no problem at all with Mitt Romney’s support of the Gay Agenda or having no problem with Abortion in some way?
Seems we have an infestation of CINOs going on around here.