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How Do We Respond to the Question 'What About Rape and Incest?'
Christian Post ^ | 08/25/2012 | Karen Gushta

Posted on 08/25/2012 8:30:09 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: Responsibility2nd

Being pro-life isn’t the same as being psychotic, but forcing a woman to bear the child of her rapist IS.

If she chooses to bear that child, then I support that decision. If she chooses not to bear that child, then I support that decision.

So to answer your question, if a woman decides to kill the child of her rapist, yes, I’m OK with that. If the rapist wanted his child to have a fair shot in life, then he should have thought about that before he forced that child on someone who never agreed to that.


61 posted on 08/25/2012 10:49:58 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: beandog

What reason is that?


62 posted on 08/25/2012 10:51:02 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: AmericanSamurai

Thank you kindly, I do appreciate this response very much.


63 posted on 08/25/2012 10:51:56 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: chris37; Responsibility2nd; Dr. Brian Kopp; trisham; DJ MacWoW; little jeremiah; Coleus; narses; ...
Being pro-life isn’t the same as being psychotic, but forcing a woman to bear the child of her rapist IS.

Really? NOT KILLING A BABY IS PSYCHOTIC?

That is some really twisted thinking.

So to answer your question, if a woman decides to kill the child of her rapist, yes, I’m OK with that.

So, if YOUR FATHER raped a woman it would be okay for her to kill YOU?

For what other crimes do you support killing the child of the criminal?

This is a PRO-LIFE forum and you have been pushing abortion all over this thread.

64 posted on 08/25/2012 10:56:46 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: SeekAndFind

Social conservatives finding enumerated powers in scripture and “moral absolutes” always comes to no good. Anthony Comstock made Margaret Sanger a celebrity. We’d have been better off if he’s left well enought alone.


65 posted on 08/25/2012 11:00:55 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: chris37

Look.

If we outlawed abortion (a worthy goal, right?) EXCEPT in case of rape - what would happen?

Millions of abortions would still occur every year, But the girls would all be crying “I wuz raped.”

Rape has been dumbed down enough as it is. A girl gets drunk - gets knocked up by a friend - that is rape these days. The same as a 12 year old being attacked in an alley.

And you want to make allowances for abortion in case of rape? That would only increase reports of rape in America by - say - a million percent.

And still... Abortion in case of rape punishes a baby for the sins of the father.

No abortions. Not ever. No exceptions.


66 posted on 08/25/2012 11:04:09 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: chris37
Being pro-life isn’t the same as being psychotic, but forcing a woman to bear the child of her rapist IS.

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She will also be bearing her child. The child will have half her DNA, and will be carried in her body until birth.

67 posted on 08/25/2012 11:04:19 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Why is the one and only person in the equation who is absolutely, without a doubt, innocent of anything the one that faces capital punishment??


68 posted on 08/25/2012 11:06:32 AM PDT by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: SeekAndFind

I prefer to turn it around on them “why are you guys so obsessed with rape and incest pregnancies? Is this like a goal, a dream, do you need money for a therapist?” That usually shuts them up.


69 posted on 08/25/2012 11:13:05 AM PDT by discostu (Welcome back my friends to the show that never ends.)
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To: tacticalogic; wagglebee

Social conservatives finding enumerated powers in scripture and “moral absolutes” always comes to no good...

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Yeah! Damn them “moral absolutes” busybodies. Who do they think they are attacking Margaret Sanger anyway?

They should all leave “well enought alone.”

/s

(I swear. Some days I feel like I’m posting at the DUmp. The number of pro-choice Freepers here is sickening.)


70 posted on 08/25/2012 11:13:20 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: SeekAndFind

That only one % of abortions are of children born of rape. That 50% of pregnancies from rape are aborted and that is 15,000 innocent victims per year.

Making up or exaggerating a biological mechanism whereby they shouldn’t exist if it was “legitimate” rape is NOT the way to go.


71 posted on 08/25/2012 11:19:14 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: Smokin' Joe
The tiniest possibility that some of what was indeed reported as 'rape' might have been an instance of 'buyer's remorse, too much alcohol or other judgement impairing substance, or being caught by their spouse, just for a few instances which might become statistically confused or combined with statistics of the brutality of forcible rape--an event which is genuinely traumatic immediately and not just in hung-over or guiltily confronted retrospect.

Do these cases concern a woman who is a clear-eyed actor making an independent and rational decision, and later expressing regret over it?

How many of the women who find themselves in the situations described above are themselves survivors of abuse and incest?

72 posted on 08/25/2012 11:23:18 AM PDT by thecodont
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To: Responsibility2nd
(I swear. Some days I feel like I’m posting at the DUmp. The number of pro-choice Freepers here is sickening.)

If it makes you feel any better, sometimes I do too, reading the kind of false dichotomy polarization arguments that are typical of the liberals.

If I don't find an enumerated power for federal welfare programs, then I must want poor inner city children to starve to death and old people thrown out on the street.

If I don't find an enumerated power for the EPA then I want air pollution and poisoned rivers.

If I don't find an enumerated power for the ATF, then I must want every city to be a war zone with 10 year old gangbangers walking around with machine guns.

If I don't find an enumerated power to ban abortion I must want free abortion on demand and every fetus murdered.

73 posted on 08/25/2012 11:34:08 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: SeekAndFind

“How do we respond to the claims of rape and incest?”

Punish the guilty. Protect and preserve the innocent.


74 posted on 08/25/2012 11:37:20 AM PDT by MarDav
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To: chris37

Think deeply about it.

Why is killing an innocent child a good way to solve the problem? The mother will live the rest of her life knowing that she murdered an innocent child. It will (and does!) only add to her burden.

Two, there are countless married couples who are waiting to adopt babies.

Three, it is senseless and the height of injustice to punish the innocent. What to speak of unspeakably cruel. Can you think of any other crime in which the victim is executed?

Add to that the fact that many women would falsely claim “rape” to be eligible for a rape allowed abortion.

The number of women who get pregnant from rape is small. All kinds of support could be (and no doubt would or is right now) provided by private charities for their pregnancy and birth expenses as well as emotional and if desired, spiritual support. And adoptive parents found for the baby.

Ask any person who was conceived from rape if they would rather have been killed and see what their answers are.


75 posted on 08/25/2012 11:39:17 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Responsibility2nd

>No abortions. Not ever. No exceptions.

That is an honorable rule for one to live by. I commend anyone following that rule for themselves.

As for reality and getting elected, it can’t be forced onto others. It’s a show stopper. Without the common sense exceptions, one can not be elected to make or enforce ANY laws.


76 posted on 08/25/2012 11:41:43 AM PDT by soycd
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So to answer your question, if a woman decides to kill the child of her rapist, yes, I’m OK with that.

Wow. Just wow.

You admit that it is a child and then you admit you are ok with killing it.

How Nazi of you.

Do you have a uniform to match your attitude?

77 posted on 08/25/2012 11:45:57 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds.)
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To: P-Marlowe; xzins
How Nazi of you.

Actually, the Nazis understood the advantage as defining their victims as something "less" that human beings before murdering them.

78 posted on 08/25/2012 12:00:45 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee
Really? NOT KILLING A BABY IS PSYCHOTIC?

Apparently, you do not know how to read very well.

That is some really twisted thinking.

It is your thinking that is twisted.

So, if YOUR FATHER raped a woman it would be okay for her to kill YOU?

My father didn't rape a woman, and if he had raped my MOTHER, then I would support my mother's decision had said rape resulted in a pregnancy.

For what other crimes do you support killing the child of the criminal?

Incest. Try reading next time.

This is a PRO-LIFE forum and you have been pushing abortion all over this thread.

Well, not everyone agrees with this forum or you. A question was asked, and I answered it. The world is not your echo chamber, even though I know you want it to be.

79 posted on 08/25/2012 12:02:24 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: MarDav

“How do we respond to the claims of rape and incest?”

Punish the guilty. Protect and preserve the innocent.


Simple, just, and the way it should be.


80 posted on 08/25/2012 12:05:49 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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