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Akin's own supporters want him to quit Mo. Senate race
The Washington Examiner's Washington Secrets ^ | August 25, 2012 | Paul Bedard

Posted on 08/25/2012 11:50:04 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Mitt Romney, Paul Ryan and the GOP establishment aren't the only ones who want Rep. Todd Akin out of the Missouri Senate race due to his controversial "legitimate rape" comments. A Missouri poll shows that even his best supporters, by a whopping 17 points, want him to drop out. Only Democrats want him to stay in the race.

According to a new St. Louis Post-Dispatch/News 4 poll, self-described Akin supporters want him to quit by a 50-34 margin. His image in the new poll is abysmal, with just 17 percent viewing him favorably and 56 unfavorably.

And the bottom line on his chances of beating Democratic Sen. Claire McCaskill, who he led comfortably before the scandal by five points is just as bad. He is currently nine points behind McCaskill, 50 percent to 41 percent.

The poll echoes a similar Rasmussen Report released Friday that showed a similar shift in the race that many analysts said was Akin's to win.

The poll reinforces efforts to convince Akin to drop out of the race. He has until September 25 to get his name off the ballot. Akin on Friday dismayed the GOP establishment by announce he was staying in the race. He suggested that he was going to run against the establishment, but even allies like conservative talk show hosts Mark Levin and Sean Hannity, as well as Romney and Ryan, have called on him to step down.

Anti-Akin forces Saturday were pointing to the fact that even Akin's own supporters want him out of the race and were hopeful that Akin would act on that finding.

An Akin associate, however, said that his campaign expects the furor to die down and that with the help of some new ads he will stage a comeback. And a key Washington conservative activist told Secrets that some conservatives are rallying around Akin and are upset that he's being left out to dry by the GOP presidential ticket.

Other details from the poll:

-- Women are running from him. While they were previously split between Akin and McCaskill, women now oppose him by almost 20 percent, 55 percent against to 37 percent for.

-- Republicans want him to withdraw, 47 percent to 37 percent.

-- Independents want him to withdraw, 57 percent to 25 percent.

-- Undecided voters, by a 67 percent to 16 percent margin, want him to withdraw.

-- Only Democrats support his candidacy. Some 47 percent want him to stay in the race, while 37 percent said he should withdraw.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; Politics/Elections; US: Missouri
KEYWORDS: 2012polls; akin; akin4obama; gop; legitimaterape; mccaskill; missouri; mo2012; senate; toddakin
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1 posted on 08/25/2012 11:50:06 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: FReepers

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2 posted on 08/25/2012 11:51:33 PM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I want Romney to quit.


3 posted on 08/25/2012 11:59:27 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

>> due to his controversial “legitimate rape” comments.

Obama: ‘My Faith in Jesus Is Legitimate and Real’
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2922905/posts

Maybe Akin should have said: “Rape that is Legitimate and Real”.


4 posted on 08/26/2012 12:01:07 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: P-Marlowe

Not the best analogy. Mine is better.


5 posted on 08/26/2012 12:02:21 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: P-Marlowe
I want Romney to quit.

Get back to us when Romney's numbers look like Akin:

-- Republicans want him to withdraw, 47 percent to 37 percent.
-- Independents want him to withdraw, 57 percent to 25 percent.
-- Undecided voters, by a 67 percent to 16 percent margin, want him to withdraw.

And ONLY Democrats want him in the race.

6 posted on 08/26/2012 12:23:44 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Election night is 71 days away.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Maybe Akin’s stubbornness will thaw. We can only hope!


7 posted on 08/26/2012 12:27:08 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Election night is 71 days away.)
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To: newzjunkey

Guy’s a friggen idiot.


8 posted on 08/26/2012 12:38:43 AM PDT by mindburglar (I'm not "The Man" anymore. Stick it to someone else.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

For whatever reason, it appears that Huckabee is pushing him to stay in the race. So, it would appear that a sure loser of a candidate (and the Dem retention of a Senate seat that would have been a certain R pickup and can still be if Akin quits) is far more important than defeating Obamacare in the Senate. Moreover, with Obama’s reelection and a Dem Senate, you can forget about any state notification requirements or other restrictions on abortion - with an Obama Supreme Court and Attorney General, there will be NO restrictions. So, thank you for socialism, Messrs. Akin and Huckabee.


9 posted on 08/26/2012 1:25:44 AM PDT by laconic
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Meanwhile, Bill Clinton is about to be the headliner of the Democrats’ convention. He’s campaigning around the country. He’ll be in Seattle in September, charging people $5,000 to have a photo taken with him. The money goes to Democrat candidate for governor Jay Inslee.

Two-thirds of Americans love Bill Clinton. His rape of Juanita Broaddrick doesn’t matter to them. His groping of Kathleen Willey doesn’t matter to them. His exposing himself to state employee Paula Jones doesn’t matter to them. His perjury doesn’t matter to them. Bill Clinton is a walking WAR ON WOMEN, but most Americans choose to overlook that because of his charisma, slickness... or whatever. Each and every time the so-called WAR ON WOMEN is brought up, Republicans should point to Bill Clinton. Play offense instead of defense. Bill Clinton is lucky not to be in jail. It’s time for the GOP to go after the Clintons, instead of just praising them at the expense of the Obamas!


10 posted on 08/26/2012 1:41:02 AM PDT by billclintonwillrotinhell
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To: newzjunkey

BS.


11 posted on 08/26/2012 1:54:12 AM PDT by Theo (May Christ be exalted above all.)
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To: newzjunkey
I live in Missouri. I went to a youth's soccer game yesterday, the drive was approximately 25 miles round trip. I looked for Akin signs, fully expecting all his supporters out there doing their part to get him elected. I saw only two signs. I did see a candidate for local office out with his kids putting up his own signs...

I think this is all hot air blowing on the internet about the depth of support Akin has.

Oh, I must add, I will vote for Akin. But the subject of Akin sure never came up with the soccer parents/relatives. Overwhelming majority were Catholics in attendance. I did not take a poll, but, based upon what I was told about the soccer game and who was playing, and my best guess, there were only 3 non-Catholics in attendance.

12 posted on 08/26/2012 2:21:02 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Have you donated to the 'resurrection of Akin' yet?)
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To: newzjunkey

Yeah, his stubbornness will thaw. On the Friday before election day, he`ll announce God told him over lunch that it`s time to drop out.

He`ll add, “It`s been such a great run and I want to thank the dozens across the great state of Missouri who have supported this campaign.”


13 posted on 08/26/2012 3:04:25 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Stop the bleeding, Todd Akin. Do the right thing and step aside!!)
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To: newzjunkey

The Akin Campaign is being run by his own family, his wife and children. It has a cult-like feel to it. This guy is getting messages from God that he must stay in and fight for “principle”.

Six more years of Claire, unless we can get a popular write-in candidate like Kit Bond, or James Talent.


14 posted on 08/26/2012 3:15:18 AM PDT by StevenFlorida
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To: StevenFlorida
StevenFlorida.... neither Bond (who already has at least one bridge named after him) nor Talent who lost to Claire in 06 can defeat Claire. At least not now.

http://www.annwagner.com/ I have heard this name, who is running to replace Akin House seat, tossed around.

The problem is the amount of attention required to get a motivated statewide campaign for a write-in is going to take some major money. I do not see that happening now, NOT that I am opposed.

Money is the ‘life’ of political campaigns, and due to the Obama depression, liberal governor, and a state wide drought, majority of Missourians are struggling.... meaning that extra ‘cash’ is going to keep air conditioners running 24/7 and higher water bills, food, gas, and .... and.. this state is not flush with cash ...

15 posted on 08/26/2012 3:28:34 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Have you donated to the 'resurrection of Akin' yet?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All
According to a new St. Louis Post-Dispatch/News 4 poll...
And here is the article your posted article is talking about...

Poll shows Akin now trails McCaskill in Missouri Senate race ...said pollster J. Brad Coker of Mason-Dixon Polling & Research Inc. of Washington, which conducted the poll for the Post-Dispatch and KMOV-TV. "It's not a rosy picture."

And this second statement by KEVIN McDERMOTT is a flat out manipulation!
Akin said in the original television interview that rape-induced pregnancy is "really rare." By way of explaining his opposition to abortion rights even in cases of rape, he said: "If it's a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down" to prevent pregnancy.
There's no mainstream medical support for that assertion, but it has been touted by the anti-abortion movement for years in opposition to rape exceptions to anti-abortion laws.

There may not be mainstream medical (read abortion providers and proponents) support, but there sure as hell is tons of medical evidence that it happens.
Even the government says this...Miscarriage
It is estimated that up to half of all fertilized eggs die and are lost (aborted) spontaneously, usually before the woman knows she is pregnant. Among those women who know they are pregnant, the miscarriage rate is about 15-20%. Most miscarriages occur during the first 7 weeks of pregnancy.
And there is this...Cortisol levels and very early pregnancy loss in humans
Our finding of an association between increased maternal cortisol and higher risk of miscarriage within the first 3 weeks of conception, together with the failure of previous research to find such an association later during gestation (23), suggests that pregnancy may be particularly sensitive to maternal stress during the placentation period.
And I could go on and on. KEVIN McDERMOTT doesn't know what he's talking about.

Claire McCaskill trails GOP candidates in Senate race, poll shows July 28, 2012
Coker predicted that McCaskill's fortunes at this point turn in large part on luck.
"They're going to need a little more than message politics. They're going to have to hope for an incident" that hurts the other side, he said. Missouri, he added, "is still winnable for the right centrist Democrat. ... She had those credentials, but with the sharply partisan issues, she has stood with the president on every big one."

Or you can cast hope aside and create "an incident" where none existed.

There are some interesting numbers in that July article...
Per Coker's poll...
For the GOP Senate primary, the poll shows Brunner, a St. Louis-area businessman, leading former Missouri state Treasurer Steelman, 33-27 percent. Akin, a congressman, was trailing with 17 percent in that race.

Snip...The poll indicates that Brunner would be McCaskill's greatest threat, beating her 52-41 percent in a hypothetical matchup. Steelman is only slightly less dangerous, beating her 49-41 percent. Even Akin, badly trailing the other two Republicans in the upcoming primary, would edge McCaskill 49-44 percent if the general election were held today, the poll found.

Snip...When only voters calling themselves independents are polled, McCaskill loses the hypothetical matchup to Brunner 57-36 percent — a devastating 21-point spread. McCaskill's losses to Steelman and Akin among those independent voters come in at 16 and 11 percent, respectively.

Looks like she "got lucky" and the "Moooooo" factor of herd mentality is helping her more than anything.

16 posted on 08/26/2012 3:29:43 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: laconic
For whatever reason, it appears that Huckabee is pushing him to stay in the race.

Huckabee needs someone to come in and take the heat off his past reputation like Obama did for Carter.

17 posted on 08/26/2012 3:30:31 AM PDT by tsowellfan (Voting for Obama/Biden is like purposely swallowing two tapeworms)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
QUESTION: If the 2012 general election for Missouri’s U.S. Senate seat were held today, would you vote for Claire McCaskill, the Democrat, or Todd Akin, the Republican?
.....McCASKILL AKIN
White 45....... 46
Black 87....... 2

18 posted on 08/26/2012 3:36:00 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: P-Marlowe

See 16 and 18.


19 posted on 08/26/2012 3:39:18 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: billclintonwillrotinhell

Not to mention Slick Willie’s shedding of seed in the Oval Office.


20 posted on 08/26/2012 4:06:33 AM PDT by luvbach1 (Stop the destruction in 2012 or continue the decline)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

FUTA


21 posted on 08/26/2012 4:31:27 AM PDT by soycd
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To: soycd

Why not spell it out?


22 posted on 08/26/2012 4:36:39 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever.)
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To: philman_36

Now philman, it seems to me we recently had an election where the ‘out party’ used the phrase ‘it’s the economy stupid’. THEY WON
Fact; rats did cross over to vote for TA.
Fact; He’s part of a Party. He ran under their banner. Women ARE running from him. If Repubs lose any votes in , say Ohio, and R&R lose.....well Iguess we’ll be better off because TA stood on ‘principle’.
Last I looked Blacks can still vote. Put female stats on your post.


23 posted on 08/26/2012 4:50:47 AM PDT by aumrl (let's keep it real Conservatives)
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To: aumrl
Fact; rats did cross over to vote for TA.
And you've got evidence of this? Show me!

Fact; He’s part of a Party. He ran under their banner.
WOW! I did not know that. I had no idea whatsoever what that (R) behind his name meant. /extreme sarcasm

Last I looked Blacks can still vote.
Yep, they can still votes. And as the poll shows they overwhelmingly trend Democrat.

Put female stats on your post.
I can't edit posts already on the boards.
And don't tell me what to do. If the female stats are so important to you then you put up the female stats.

You can do that, can't you?

24 posted on 08/26/2012 5:00:56 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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Shoot! Freudian typo! ...can still votes vote.
25 posted on 08/26/2012 5:02:19 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36

LOL -show me.... a good Missouri saying.
I’ll take Rush and FLee Levin words.
Check county figures in ‘Post-Dispatch’
Female stats aren’t any more important to me than Black stats are apparently to you.
They are what they are.
It’s the TOTALS that will matter. I know in your heart you know I’m right ;-)


26 posted on 08/26/2012 5:11:45 AM PDT by aumrl (let's keep it real Conservatives)
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To: philman_36

LOL -show me.... a good Missouri saying.
I’ll take Rush and FLee Levin words.
Check county figures in ‘Post-Dispatch’
Female stats aren’t any more important to me than Black stats are apparently to you.
They are what they are.
It’s the TOTALS that will matter. I know in your heart you know I’m right ;-)


27 posted on 08/26/2012 5:15:05 AM PDT by aumrl (let's keep it real Conservatives)
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To: aumrl

oops! looked so nice i hit it twice


28 posted on 08/26/2012 5:17:38 AM PDT by aumrl (let's keep it real Conservatives)
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To: P-Marlowe
Same reason too ~ guy was a Republican office holder and donated to Democrats. That sort of thing should be the end of one's career. This Akin guy did not object to Democrat funded ads on his behalf.

If the GOP-e wants to keep a place in the Republican party they'll have to start showing some brand name discipline or they'll lose everything ~ the party, the important factions, all the voters, the candidates.

12 losers in the last 70 years is 12 too many! We've only had 6 winners in that time under their authority! Then there's the 'me to ism' ~ just too much of that ~ gives the show away to the Democrats. Romney has already started to speak well of RombamakKKare ~ and that is certainly only the first of a wave of 'me to ism's. Democrats love that stuff ~ they know they can run a stuffed dog for office and beat a Republican who does that.

29 posted on 08/26/2012 5:29:52 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Just mythoughts
http://www.annwagner.com/ I have heard this name, who is running to replace Akin House seat, tossed around.

Ann Wagner would be a good replacement but she is set where she is. She is a lock-in for his old Congressional District, a sure thing that she will win without a fight. She would not trade that for this and I don't think anyone could blame her.

I have listened to discussions about viable replacement candidates and it is hard to come up with one especially at this late date.

30 posted on 08/26/2012 5:32:05 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: aumrl
It’s the TOTALS that will matter. I know in your heart you know I’m right
Oh, I completely agree that the TOTALS are all that matter in the end.

I know in your heart you know I'm right in that the end hasn't arrived yet.

See, two can play that game.

31 posted on 08/26/2012 5:35:31 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: muawiyah; P-Marlowe
This Akin guy did not object to Democrat funded ads on his behalf.
And if he had objected what do you honestly think the reply to his objection would have been?

Surely you can "figure it out", can't you?
You keep positing it and I'll keep asking it.

And what do you think about the comments by McCaskill in the article I pinged you to last night from Aug 8, 2012 well before all of this started?

Doesn't it sound to you like she intended to damage him instead of help him?

32 posted on 08/26/2012 5:42:59 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Just mythoughts

Wagner can do a switcheroo with Akin and get on the ballot for Senator, and Akin get his old Congressional seat, but that takes Akin’s approval. I think he is a dead-ender and will not change his mind, though I hope he will.

I have to laugh at some of the people here who say they will “support” Akin. The only support Akin cares about is $$$, because all of the national PACs and Republican Committes have stopped spending anything on the race. The only exception is HuckPac, but I am not sure that is going to help very much.


33 posted on 08/26/2012 5:47:57 AM PDT by StevenFlorida
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To: P-Marlowe
I want to win the POWERBALL.

It amazes me that so many here are still talking theory. Philosophy. It matters little. Akin is the candidate. Until HE and only HE petitions the court to have his name removed from the ballot. Even then, it is not a done deal...

34 posted on 08/26/2012 5:49:00 AM PDT by donozark (Never loan money to a preacher.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Akin will be giving ANOTHER apology-news-er soon — indicative that he is done for.

Everyone seems to know it but him.

When one has more Dem support than Indy and Pubbie combined, one should read the handwriting on the wall.

If Akin hangs on, Washington welcomes the return of Senator McCaskill.

Akin needs to face up to his ‘macaca’ moment. He stepped in it. Once that happened, he can’t unstep out of it.


35 posted on 08/26/2012 5:57:22 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: StevenFlorida
...all of the national PACs and Republican Committes have stopped spending anything on the race.

Family Research Council Stands Behind Rep. Akin

Despite Apology, Left Continues Its Belly Akin

36 posted on 08/26/2012 5:59:18 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: StevenFlorida
Six more years of Claire, unless we can get a popular write-in candidate like Kit Bond, or James Talent.

A write-in candidate would only split the vote, allowing Claire McCaskill to cruise to another term. I can't think of a write-in candidate who would have enough appeal to win over the Akin supporters--and there are apparently a lot of them--who believe their candidate is getting a bum rap and resent the meddling by outsiders such as Ann Coulter, Sarah Palin and the GOP establishment.

The best thing to do is to call off the pile-on, accept Akin's apology and get behind him.

37 posted on 08/26/2012 5:59:49 AM PDT by Fiji Hill (Deo Vindice!)
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To: TomGuy
Akin will be giving ANOTHER apology-news-er soon...
You got link?
38 posted on 08/26/2012 6:01:37 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36

Eagle Forum also continues to back him.


39 posted on 08/26/2012 6:03:05 AM PDT by Fiji Hill (Deo Vindice!)
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To: philman_36

no, it doesn’t sound like mccaskill intended to damage him. she intended to damage the republican voting strength by keeping a strong conservative out of the race.


40 posted on 08/26/2012 6:05:05 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: StevenFlorida
Just in case you don't read the "Despite Apology, Left Continues Its Belly Akin" article I'll post what I thought were the highlights...

This is nothing but a manufactured controversy, aimed to misconstrue more than 32 years of stated GOP policy. "Obama's allies say this silence is somehow an explicit refusal to allow exceptions for rape--[even] dubbing this pro-life plank the Akin Amendment"--despite the fact that Congressman Akin had nothing to do with the platform. The fact that the Left has turned the pro-life plank (which dates back to Ronald Reagan) into an Akin controversy is just another example of slanted media coverage. (I await the same coverage on the "McCaskill language" of the Democratic platform which calls for taxpayer funding of abortion on demand!) The GOP is a party that respects all human life. Now is the time to stand by the leaders who fight for it.

41 posted on 08/26/2012 6:06:56 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’ve said my piece on this - Akin’s decisions have been very unfortunate - but it’s time to start ignoring it.


42 posted on 08/26/2012 6:07:34 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Diseases desperate grown are by desperate appliance relieved or not at all.)
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To: Just mythoughts

How many McCasket signs did you see? My guess is pretty close to zero.

Around here, there are virtually NO signs up for ANY candidate. It’s just too early.


43 posted on 08/26/2012 6:08:46 AM PDT by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their president is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: Fiji Hill; StevenFlorida
Eagle Forum also continues to back him.
Harrumph! Well that simply doesn't count! /sarcasm

See, the statement by StevenFlorida was highly nuanced, to whit...

...all of the national PACs and Republican Committes have stopped spending anything on the race.

She isn't a "national" PAC, is she?

44 posted on 08/26/2012 6:11:25 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: muawiyah
no, it doesn’t sound like mccaskill intended to damage him.
Okay, thanks for sharing your opinion.

she intended to damage the republican voting strength by keeping a strong conservative out of the race.
Since you didn't name anyone in particular which "strong conservative", in your opinion, was she trying to keep out of the race?

45 posted on 08/26/2012 6:14:42 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Fiji Hill

Sure, I will get behind him. I can’t vote for him, as I don’t live in Fla.

I am not sending any money to him, are you?

That is the bottom line. You can’t run a successful campaign with no money.


46 posted on 08/26/2012 6:15:25 AM PDT by StevenFlorida
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To: Fresh Wind; Just mythoughts
How many McCasket signs did you see?
Good question. I'm glad you asked it.
47 posted on 08/26/2012 6:16:28 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36
Akin will be giving ANOTHER apology-news-er soon...
You got link?


Not yet. I am speculating. Usually once these guys are on the ropes, it takes 3-4 apologies before they finally realize it is over for them. Some have even gone upwards of 7 or 8 apologies.


48 posted on 08/26/2012 6:17:56 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: philman_36

I don’t think it’s a game.
Indeed the future of my Country and of my grandchildren are at risk.


49 posted on 08/26/2012 6:18:43 AM PDT by aumrl (let's keep it real Conservatives)
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To: TomGuy
Akin will be giving ANOTHER apology-news-er soon — indicative that he is done for.

Amen! Last night, again, his apology ad was shown over and over again on TV. Just the apology. He made no effort to move that issue off the table and start talking about things that matter, i.e., Obamacare, the economy, jobs, the deficit, the balloning government workforce, etc. His hubris and lack of insight into what he has done is breathtaking.

There is no way I would ever vote for Claire, but I'm very unhappy this guy is my only other choice.

50 posted on 08/26/2012 6:19:42 AM PDT by LSAggie
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