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St. Petersburg sees first RNC-related arrests after men found on downtown rooftop with weapons
Tampa Bay ^ | 8/26/12 | Kameel Stanley

Posted on 08/26/2012 4:37:06 AM PDT by Libloather

St. Petersburg sees first RNC-related arrests after men found on downtown rooftop with weapons
By Kameel Stanley, Times Staff Writer
Tampa Bay Times
In Print: Sunday, August 26, 2012

ST. PETERSBURG — Two suspected protesters were arrested after they were found playing with a BB gun atop a downtown parking garage, authorities said.

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They also found several items indicating the people were protesters, including antigovernment T-shirts and a backpack stuffed with a large machete, a pocketknife, tin snips and a pry tool, Puetz said.

The backpack belonged to Trevor Swanson, 19, of St. Petersburg, who is prohibited from having weapons because of a domestic violence injunction.

Police said the other man on the roof, Kyle Shaw, 21, had a BB gun in his waistband.

Authorities also found bandanas, black gloves and a putty that Swanson admitted was for securing a mask, police said.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2012rncconvention; anarchists; arrests; bandanas; banglist; bbgun; bbpistol; convention; election2012; fl; florida; gloves; kyleshaw; mask; masks; ows; prybar; putty; rnc; tampa; tinsnips; trevorswanson; weapons
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Oct. 6, 2011 - House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi "God bless them for their spontaneity. It's independent, it's young, it's spontaneous, and it's focused. And it's going to be effective."
1 posted on 08/26/2012 4:37:14 AM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather

I get the feeling both conventions this year will make the 1968 dem convention look like a picnic. Expecting the worst.


2 posted on 08/26/2012 4:47:54 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Libloather

masks, machete, knife....

Lord, please protect convention attendees, area residents and the police from those intending to commit violence there :-(


3 posted on 08/26/2012 4:54:16 AM PDT by Tamzee (The U.S. re-electing Obama would be like the Titanic backing up and ramming the iceberg again.)
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To: Libloather

BB gun....sheesh. Maybe going to do a bit of damage to a sign or two but a BB gun? lol. We used those big time when I was a kid. People are too sensitive now a days. These guys should not be arrested for using a 2nd Amendment right. What a disaster America is becoming.


4 posted on 08/26/2012 4:54:32 AM PDT by napscoordinator (Attention Republican National Convention voters....Santorum/Bachmann 2012! Dump liberal Romney NOW!)
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To: napscoordinator
The BB was for one of two things ~ possibly to shoot rats on the roof. Nothing like a rat bite to mess you up. Or, to shoot at glass bottles filled with flammable liquid that's been fused to ignite if percussed.

I'd be looking around for the empty bottles ~

5 posted on 08/26/2012 4:57:23 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: ilovesarah2012
Well funded by soros and his groups. Depicted by the scumedia as Innocent law abiding protesters enjoying thier constitutional rights sprinkled of coarse with anarchists funded by darthe vader. The majority, the adults in the room must stand and must vote in mass to get the ball rolling
6 posted on 08/26/2012 4:57:56 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (bb)
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To: muawiyah
Wow. You went to the extreme. Your scenario is plausible though.
7 posted on 08/26/2012 5:00:46 AM PDT by napscoordinator (Attention Republican National Convention voters....Santorum/Bachmann 2012! Dump liberal Romney NOW!)
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To: Tamzee

Thanks for your thoughts. I am going Tuesday Night to hear Mrs. Romney and Chris Christie. I have been a little reluctant to actually go, but have faith that the police and security will be top notch.


8 posted on 08/26/2012 5:01:53 AM PDT by marygam (#Hurry November 2012, we might not make it#)
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To: Libloather
...a large machete, a pocketknife, tin snips and a pry tool...

In Florida, a machete in an urban area is a great way to become a martyr...

9 posted on 08/26/2012 5:02:43 AM PDT by papertyger ("And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if..."))
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To: marygam

Please be careful and I’ll be praying for your safety...


10 posted on 08/26/2012 5:07:33 AM PDT by Tamzee (The U.S. re-electing Obama would be like the Titanic backing up and ramming the iceberg again.)
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To: Libloather

Next spit balls will be “weapons” ‘c’mon.


11 posted on 08/26/2012 5:11:00 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag (The hotter the TEA, the stronger......and I'm boiling!)
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To: napscoordinator

A BB gun paired with a machete, pry bar, tin snips, AND they’re on the roof of a parking garage near Tropicana field where the RNC kick-off/welcome party starts tonight.

Law-abiding gun owners and concealed carriers are not going anywhere near these events, and the police know it. My cousin’s husband is a Tampa cop and has told everyone in our family that if they don’t have business in Tampa this week, stay far away from it.

I’ll be heeding that advice.


12 posted on 08/26/2012 5:13:39 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: napscoordinator
Do a google.com search for: bb gun molotov cocktail

630,000 references (some duds but you get the idea of what to do).

13 posted on 08/26/2012 5:19:19 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: napscoordinator

Association my friend is part of the law in this state when it involves the commission of breaking the law. The reality is the police most likely saved their worthless lives by running across them first. A competent CCW holder would not have been so “understanding” if that BB gun was to be brandished.


14 posted on 08/26/2012 5:22:43 AM PDT by mazda77 ("Defeating the Totalitarian Lie" By: Hilmar von Campe. Everybody should read it.)
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To: Libloather
The backpack belonged to Trevor Swanson, 19, of St. Petersburg, who is prohibited from having weapons because of a domestic violence injunction....

Shaw, listed as a transient from Largo, was arrested on a charge of carrying a concealed weapon. Swanson was arrested on charges of possessing burglary tools, violating an injunction and being a delinquent felon in possession of a weapon.

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... am very glad they caught these men before the events started.

15 posted on 08/26/2012 5:25:11 AM PDT by Tamzee (The U.S. re-electing Obama would be like the Titanic backing up and ramming the iceberg again.)
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To: marygam

now be calm
Send me your ticket
I’ll just take the big risk.


16 posted on 08/26/2012 5:25:36 AM PDT by aumrl (let's keep it real Conservatives)
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To: Libloather

WOW, my dear FRiend, this is proof positive that the Soros money is drying up, and Obama has a financial dilemma that is worse than we thought..

BB gun, replacing an AK47’s, and wire cutters, bottles, pocket knives, machetes, instead of lasers, rocket launchers, or it could be true, liberals really are wimps.. Sheeze

It’s also possible that they were already robbed by their other more aggressive comrades..


17 posted on 08/26/2012 5:25:49 AM PDT by carlo3b (Less Government, more Fiber..)
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To: Libloather
St. Petersburg sees first RNC-related arrests after men found on downtown rooftop with weapons

These "slugs" should be handled the same way Mayor Richard Daley handled them in Chicago in 1968. Nothing like a split open head to calm the anarchists. Screw all the PC crap.

18 posted on 08/26/2012 5:34:07 AM PDT by GoldenPup (Comrade "O" has got to GO!!)
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To: Libloather

I wonder if it was a steel BB shooting gun or a soft air plastic BB shooting gun?


19 posted on 08/26/2012 5:39:48 AM PDT by CPOSharky (zero slogan: Expect less, pay more. (apologies to Target))
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To: Libloather

Oct. 6, 2011 - House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi “God bless them for their spontaneity. It’s independent, it’s young, it’s spontaneous, and it’s focused. And it’s going to be effective.”


And as Nancy would further go on to say “God bless them all”.


20 posted on 08/26/2012 5:40:55 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (Resurrect the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC)...before there is no America!)
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To: CPOSharky
I wonder if it was a steel BB shooting gun or a soft air plastic BB shooting gun?

Panic & Hysteria sure to follow anyone shooting any type of weapon/BB gun from a roof near the RNC.

There are anarchists out there fully capable of murder, but most of these brainwashed idiots are just troublemakers inspired by their college professors.

21 posted on 08/26/2012 5:50:29 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Libloather

They are fools if they try to start trouble.

Let all those mushy-middlers come to associate the Democrats with street violence; they will run to the polls to vote Republican.


22 posted on 08/26/2012 5:57:55 AM PDT by jocon307
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To: Libloather
Title: "St. Petersburg sees first RNC-related arrests.."

Possible correction: "St. Petersburg sees first DNC-related arrests.."

23 posted on 08/26/2012 6:01:31 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: napscoordinator
These guys should not be arrested for using a 2nd Amendment right.

They weren't. What were they charged with? How can you be legally arrested for exercising a right. They simply showed how terminally stupid they were. On roof, with gun (or what looks like a gun) near a convention. If they shot at someone, they may have been killed for a terminally stupid prank.

24 posted on 08/26/2012 6:06:11 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: muawiyah
More than likely intended to create a panic.

Somebody reports “man on rooftop with gun” and you have panic city.

They don't know it's just a BB gun until they catch them.

Then it's a big joke that it's just a BB gun.

Idiot leftist believe that since it's just a BB gun nothing much will happen to them when they are caught.

25 posted on 08/26/2012 6:08:10 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: napscoordinator
Shaw, listed as a transient from Largo, was arrested on a charge of carrying a concealed weapon. Swanson was arrested on charges of possessing burglary tools, violating an injunction and being a delinquent felon in possession of a weapon.

I admit that a BB gun is a stretch as a concealed weapon, but he certainly did not have a permit. And the article mentioned an anti-government T-shirt, bet it was not a T-party T-shirt. These are Leftie paid useful idiots. And STUPID.

26 posted on 08/26/2012 6:12:08 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: IMR 4350
Stupid leftists don't run around with burglary tools. These guys had a prybar to open up roof drain systems ~ and the bb gun may just have been there to shoot rats that pop out ~ or they were going to put something in the sewer drains and set it off via some sort of incendiary ignitor fried from a bb gun.

There are materials you can mix, leave, and 45 minutes to an hour later they'll start a fire.

Henry's Chemistry has a lot of them ~ and the internet is a treasuretrove of such information. Kids and professional thieves get arrested for carrying around the ingredients all the time.

27 posted on 08/26/2012 6:18:08 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Libloather
and a putty that Swanson admitted was for securing a mask

Maybe I'm missing something here but who secures a mask with putty?

28 posted on 08/26/2012 6:26:37 AM PDT by lwd
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To: lwd
Maybe I'm missing something here but who secures a mask with putty?

The only thing that makes sense to me is if the putty were to secure a poorly fitting gas mask, to make sure the edges seal to the skin without gaps.

If that was the case, then it was not just a bit of varmint hunting.

29 posted on 08/26/2012 6:39:11 AM PDT by slowhandluke (It's hard to be cynical enough in this age.)
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To: Libloather

Why am I thinking they were there waiting to break into cars when everyone was attending the convention?


30 posted on 08/26/2012 6:43:43 AM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (Who you chose as President isn't as important as his choice of political appointees.)
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To: Libloather

No bias in the title trying to characterize this as the RNC’s fault. Nope, none. /sarc


31 posted on 08/26/2012 6:47:55 AM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: Libloather

No bias in the title trying to characterize this as the RNC’s fault. Nope, none. /sarc


32 posted on 08/26/2012 6:48:12 AM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: napscoordinator
BB gun....sheesh. Maybe going to do a bit of damage to a sign or two but a BB gun? lol. We used those big time when I was a kid. People are too sensitive now a days.

Here's a harmless little Air-rifle "the Condor" will shoot the 14.3-grain .22 Crosman Premier at velocities of around 1,250 f.p.s. for the first five shots! The first 15 shots will usually be faster than 1,200 f.p.s., and even shot 20 will usually still be above 1,175.

That just might be a little mischievous for a kid's BB gun.

here's a harmless little bb-gun pistol that put out a round at about 1000 fps.


33 posted on 08/26/2012 6:58:39 AM PDT by Dick Vomer (democrats are like flies, whatever they don't eat they sh#t on.)
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To: ThePatriotsFlag

I’m particularly fond of shooting straightened paperclips with a good-sized rubberband. Accurate and deadly!


34 posted on 08/26/2012 7:04:48 AM PDT by moovova (OMG...Obama Must Go)
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To: Libloather

I guess it’s too late to move the convention to the other St Petersburg.


35 posted on 08/26/2012 10:36:50 AM PDT by Erasmus (Zwischen des Teufels und des tiefen, blauen Meers)
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To: aumrl

Hahahaha! Not on your life!!

and I will remain calm.


36 posted on 08/26/2012 10:57:17 AM PDT by marygam (#Hurry November 2012, we might not make it#)
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To: Tamzee

Thank You!


37 posted on 08/26/2012 10:58:33 AM PDT by marygam (#Hurry November 2012, we might not make it#)
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To: Libloather

> House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi “God bless them for
> their spontaneity. It’s independent, it’s young, it’s
> spontaneous, and it’s focused. And it’s going to be
> effective.”

So were the jihadis fighting the USMC in the Second Battle of Fallujah. The young, spontaneous, and focused jihadis were so arrogant yet ineffectual in attacking the Marines, that it became in effect a “turkey shoot”.

They were so incredibly bad as fighters that after killing many who had made the same stupid mistakes over and over again, some of the Marines took to laughing, as what the enemy was doing was so irrational and suicidal, they couldn’t help themselves.

This was interpreted by the jihadis that the Marines had to have been on drugs, to laugh in the middle of a battle. So they talked of “The drug-crazed, laughing Marines”.

However, when all was said and done, in 46 days of combat, the Marines had 95 dead and 560 wounded; but the bad guyz had about 1,500 dead and 1,500 captured, with most of the remaining thousand wounded and fled. A very conservative estimate, with some unofficial estimates as double that.

In any event, “young, dumb, and full of ****” will generally fail when opposed by experience, age and patience.


38 posted on 08/26/2012 10:59:21 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Libloather; LucyT; little jeremiah; azishot

We had better anticipate the spark for violence creating a Reichstag Fire.

The communist regime will try harder as the election draws close, especially if their internal polls are signaling a loss.

They are so close to taking over they are licking their chops. They can’t “allow” losing, especially in a landslide.

If We The People stay home when widespread violence occurs, we’ll suffer much more from the empowered communists the rest of our lives.

If the communists win, this will be the last FREE election for a long time.

Ask anyone who lived under tyranny to refute or confirm the above.


39 posted on 08/26/2012 11:15:50 AM PDT by melancholy (Professor Alinsky, Enslavement Specialist, Ph.D. in L0w and H0lder)
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To: melancholy

Thanks, mel. Found this little gem this morning.:

“Federal authorities are urging law enforcement agencies across the country to watch out for signs that extremists might be planning to wreak havoc at the upcoming political conventions — by blocking roads, shutting down transit systems and even employing what were described as acid-filled eggs.”

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/08/22/feds-warn-anarchists-could-blockade-roads-use-acid-filled-eggs-to-protest/


40 posted on 08/26/2012 11:48:43 AM PDT by azishot (When your life is on the line, lead is worth more than gold.)
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To: marygam

:-)


41 posted on 08/26/2012 7:59:39 PM PDT by Tamzee (The U.S. re-electing Obama would be like the Titanic backing up and ramming the iceberg again.)
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To: ilovesarah2012
will make the 1968 dem convention look like a picnic

The difference is that in '68 the cops had no problem using tear gas and clubbing the bastards like baby seals.

42 posted on 08/26/2012 8:06:54 PM PDT by 2111USMC (aim small, miss small)
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To: JulieRNR21; kinganamort; katherineisgreat; floriduh voter; summer; Goldwater Girl; windchime; ...

Florida Freeper


43 posted on 08/27/2012 6:18:57 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: Dick Vomer
I have the Daisy Powerline 15XT. About 500 fps and will go through 1/4" plywood, like a knife through butter, at 10 yds.


44 posted on 08/27/2012 6:37:43 AM PDT by Bushbacker1 (I miss President Bush! 2012 - The End Of An Error! (Oathkeeper))
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To: Libloather

I have a first hand report that shows me that Florida and the LEO are protecting the 2A rights of Floridians.

I was in the security zone in Tampa almost the entire time Saturday, slept over night in the zone and most of the day Sunday. I did not possess any credentials to enter the forum or convention center, nor did I try. I did have the ‘Perimeter Pass’ that came with my staying in a hotel within ‘The Zone’. My stay was a room in the same hotel that the Massachusetts delegation and you know who was staying.
I possess A FL CCW permit and was concealed carrying the entire time. At no point was I asked with regard to any weapon(s). At night I did see and pass dozens of national guard marching, all carrying significant weaponry.
I had to exit the secure zone once Saturday night and re-enter on foot. (Taxis were not permitted in the zone.)
There was no metal detectors in use for pedestrians entering. On Sunday, I exited by car and had to re-enter with the vehicle. It took 45 minutes, involved a k-9 sniff, extensive inspection of the car, under the hood, trunk, open cases, etc. At no time was my person searched or was I asked about weapons.

The mayor of Tampa tried a month ago to ban all citizenry CCW within city limits and our Gov. Scott stood up for the 2A and shutdown that attempt.

Tampa is safer with the citizen being able to protect themselves and those near them.


45 posted on 08/27/2012 6:54:42 AM PDT by George from New England
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To: Tamzee; MinuteGal; All
Thank you all from outside our Sunshine state for your prayers of protection and best wishes for a wonderful Republican National Convention being held in Tampa!

Just thought I would report from here in St. Petersburg. All is well.

Issac is not going to cause problems to the Tampa bay area, except probably littls rain bands with some wind. Sun just peeked out here and no rain for the past six hours. Just overcast and windy.

As for Issac causing trouble elsewhere, I hope it does not strengthen as it heads toward MS and LA. Seems when storms enter the Gulf they head for the Florida Panhandle area and coastlines of AL,MS and LA. News about this being the anniversary of Katrina is surely to make folks in LA worry some. But remember one HUGE DIFFERENCE! Now LA has a wonderful Governor in Bobby Jindal who will make sure folks in LA are safe. During Katrina LA had a DEM Governor and New Orleans Mayor with few brains! As much as President Bush tried to warn and help them, they were too dumb to protect their citizens!

Now for the Protest Folks thinking they will cause trouble in Tampa. What they might not know is we are prepared for them! Perhaps they know nothing about our Governor Scott and our Law Enforcement folks. They are ready, and the Hillsborough Prison system has 1,700 spots available for anyone who chooses to not behave themselves. The “teaser & cart off to jail dance” will be done if need be!

Hubby and I are looking forward to attending one event tomorrow evening in support of our Military, and on Thursday afternoon an event honoring our favorite Congressman, Allen West. And the Florida sun is out bright as I end this posting!! :)

46 posted on 08/27/2012 8:48:02 AM PDT by seekthetruth (I want a Commander In Chief who honors and supports our Military!)
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To: azishot; LucyT; little jeremiah; FARS
Thanks, azishot.

“Federal authorities are urging law enforcement agencies across the country to watch out for signs that extremists might be planning to wreak havoc at the upcoming political conventions — by blocking roads, shutting down transit systems and even employing what were described as acid-filled eggs.”

Well, the communist regime is making sure to establish through their enablers, the MSM, that the OWSers, union thugs, Communists, anarchists, and black panthers are the moral equivalence of the Tea Parties.

When the communists start the violence, they want to make sure of "we told you so!"

I wouldn't put it past them to use their thugs dressed as Tea Parties with American flags and all, chanting against women, blacks and destroying property.

This will be the communist media AHA moment and that they always suspected that will happen. Hey, we told you so, see?

The only defense is to document incidents through videos, demand the arrest of "the fake Tea Partiers" and follow up to find out QUICKLY who they really are and who paid them!

I emphasized "quickly" to find out through H0lder's teeth that the thugs are HIS White communists and NOT the Tea Parties WELL BEFORE THE ELECTION!

47 posted on 08/27/2012 9:59:27 AM PDT by melancholy (Professor Alinsky, Enslavement Specialist, Ph.D. in L0w and H0lder)
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To: melancholy

Tech types need to be on the lookout for false “right wing/Tea Party” extremists who commit violence so their names can be instantly checked on FB and other means to disprove the false “right wing” appellation.


48 posted on 08/27/2012 11:06:14 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: slowhandluke

Not like a Halloween mask...like a gas mask?


49 posted on 08/27/2012 1:11:14 PM PDT by brytlea (An ounce of chocolate is worth a pound of cure)
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To: brytlea

Right, as in a gas mask. When the tear gas flies, the bad guys would want to stay functional, so they can hit the cops with their BB guns and irritate them enough so that they over react. And so, they would have the need to make very sure of their gas mask seals.


50 posted on 08/27/2012 1:25:15 PM PDT by slowhandluke (It's hard to be cynical enough in this age.)
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