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GOP platform cuts gay rights in military
Washington Examiner ^ | Aug 22 2012 | Staff

Posted on 08/26/2012 9:10:36 AM PDT by scottjewell

President Obama's expansion of gay rights in the military, including on-base same sex marriage and wearing uniforms in gay pride parades, would be radically yanked back in a Mitt Romney administration, according to Republican platform positions taking shape in Tampa and OK'd by the candidate.

"We're pushing back," said Elaine Donnelly, of the conservative Center for Military Readiness. "This is pretty big."

While one subcommittee was tightening anti-abortion and "traditional marriage" language that won praise from the Family Research Council, a national security team moved rapidly to pull back expanded gay rights derided by critics as "Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgendered Law."

New language included rejecting "the use of military as a platform for social experimentation," and a demand that the military provide "objective and open-minded" recommendations to the president on personnel policies.

The brass has been criticized for bowing to Obama's move to expand gay rights in the military.

Other language included affirming "cultural values...team cohesion, including intra-military special interest demonstrations" that Donnelly told Secrets was meant to stop same sex marriages and wearing uniforms in gay pride events, two hugely controversial changes under Obama.

The GOP also OK'd language blocking attempts to remove Bibles from military facilities; would exempt women from ground combat units and infantry battalions; and support for the Defense of Marriage Act. The GOP votes on the platform Monday, the opening day of the Republican National Convention.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012issues; 2012rncconvention; 2012rncplatform; dontaskdonttell; homosexualagenda

1 posted on 08/26/2012 9:10:44 AM PDT by scottjewell
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To: scottjewell

Could we get a strong position against politically correct promotions?


2 posted on 08/26/2012 9:15:20 AM PDT by greatvikingone
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To: scottjewell

“The GOP also OK’d language blocking attempts to remove Bibles from military facilities; would exempt women from ground combat units and infantry battalions; and support for the Defense of Marriage Act. The GOP votes on the platform Monday, the opening day of the Republican National Convention.”
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This is a preview of the Romney admin? Unreal..


3 posted on 08/26/2012 9:15:55 AM PDT by max americana (Make the world a better place by punching a liberal in the face)
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To: scottjewell

I hope they “push” it right back to the way it was before DADT and we followed the UCMJ - not some radical, politically-correct social experiment.


4 posted on 08/26/2012 9:17:07 AM PDT by jettester (I got paid to break 'em - not fly 'em)
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To: greatvikingone
New language included rejecting "the use of military as a platform for social experimentation," and a demand that the military provide "objective and open-minded" recommendations to the president on personnel policies.

Translation: GOP accepts gays in the military.

5 posted on 08/26/2012 9:20:09 AM PDT by Calusa (The pump don't work cause the vandals took the handles. Quoth Bob Dylan.)
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To: scottjewell

The mission of the military is to defend the country not to join a gay retreat.


6 posted on 08/26/2012 9:25:31 AM PDT by FreedBird
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To: scottjewell
President Obama's expansion of gay rights in the military, including . . . wearing uniforms in gay pride parades,

This is yet another special "right" for the perpetually aggrieved. Decent soldiers are prohibited from wearing their uniforms for political events. Those agitating for gay "rights" are the exception to this rule.

7 posted on 08/26/2012 9:29:12 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Calusa

“Translation: GOP accepts gays in the military.”

I don’t follow how you get that from what is written.


8 posted on 08/26/2012 9:29:32 AM PDT by greatvikingone
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To: jettester
"we followed the UCMJ - not some radical, politically-correct social experiment."OO-RAH!

You're right on the money, as it's no place for limp-wrists and dykes. OTOH, you KNOW some asshat Lawyer will jump right in and scream for "Equal Rights" for sex deviates, but we need to confront this deviency both in the Military, AND, in Public.

Sex habits have NO STANDING in Courtrooms, IMHO, as a Defense OR an Excuse.

9 posted on 08/26/2012 9:40:54 AM PDT by traditional1 (Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: scottjewell

However, the GOP Platform will not call for a ban on gay service members and the expulsion of all current Sodomite members of the US Military.

The Republicans have already given in on the Sodomite Agenda.


10 posted on 08/26/2012 9:41:36 AM PDT by Uncle Slayton
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To: greatvikingone

Buck McKeon, House Armed Services Committee Chairman, Says Gays In The Military Issue Is Settled

By DONNA CASSATA 06/21/12 02:24 PM ET

WASHINGTON — The Republican chairman of the House Armed Services Committee said Thursday that allowing gays to serve openly in the military is a settled issue that he won’t try to reverse even if Mitt Romney wins the presidency in November and the GOP captures the Senate.

Rep. Howard “Buck” McKeon of California said his focus is on restoring money for the military after the latest round of defense cuts – a planned reduction of $487 billion over 10 years that could nearly double if Congress fails to avert automatic, across-the-board cuts that begin in January. Pressed on the divisive issue of gay rights that roiled Congress two years ago, McKeon said he wouldn’t revisit it.

“We fought that fight,” McKeon told defense reporters at an hourlong breakfast interview. He said his goal is to “get the things that our war-fighters need.”

The committee chairman said other GOP lawmakers might try to reinstate the “don’t ask, don’t tell policy” that was in effect for nearly two decades. “That’s not something that I would personally bring up,” he said.

He recalled that in 1994, when Republicans took control of the House after 40 years, there were high expectations for ambitious changes. “They expected us to pull off miracles. That’s not how things work. I’d rather focus on money for defense,” McKeon said.


11 posted on 08/26/2012 9:43:14 AM PDT by Calusa (The pump don't work cause the vandals took the handles. Quoth Bob Dylan.)
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To: Calusa

It would be unwise to suddenly make illegal what was legal - people have rights too. But we can make the environment less inviting by formalizing the PDA expectations most of us have respected for years. Defending DOMA would keep military people from getting homosexual partner rights/marriage, etc. One small pet-peeve I have is that people who are HIV positive are given a waiver and kept in instead of being medically boarded. If you can’t serve worldwide, you shouldn’t be allowed to serve.


12 posted on 08/26/2012 9:51:12 AM PDT by greatvikingone
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To: scottjewell

Why do people get extra “rights” in the military based on what sexual acts they engage in? It’s pure lunacy and stupidity.


13 posted on 08/26/2012 9:57:41 AM PDT by Antoninus (Sorry, gone rogue.)
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To: Calusa
“We fought that fight,” McKeon told defense reporters at an hourlong breakfast interview. He said his goal is to “get the things that our war-fighters need.”

Reason #571 why I'm not voting for Romney and won't vote for any Republican who doesn't have a strong stance on pillow-biter issues. I fear Rick Santorum was our last chance to roll this garbage back.
14 posted on 08/26/2012 10:07:44 AM PDT by Antoninus (Sorry, gone rogue.)
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To: scottjewell

Homosexuality is now openly paraded in the military. The only way to fix this is to give a Dishonorable Discharge to everyone who took advantage of the policy and participated in the mischief. They have to know that misconduct will have consequences, even if it has political support.

Otherwise, the policy could be shifted back and forth depending on who is President, continuing to wreak havoc on military culture and discipline.


15 posted on 08/26/2012 10:08:43 AM PDT by UnwashedPeasant
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To: greatvikingone
It would be unwise to suddenly make illegal what was legal - people have rights too.

Excuse me but bullcrap. If someone is an open homosexual in the military, that causes all kinds of problems which we've only just begun to see. DADT needs to be rolled back and to do that, we need serious patriots in elected office. At present, we have very, very few.
16 posted on 08/26/2012 10:11:56 AM PDT by Antoninus (Sorry, gone rogue.)
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To: Antoninus

“If someone is an open homosexual in the military, that causes all kinds of problems which we’ve only just begun to see.”

You cannot kick them out because people now know their preferences. Attrition is the best and most legal hope.


17 posted on 08/26/2012 10:16:07 AM PDT by greatvikingone
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To: Pollster1
Decent soldiers are prohibited from wearing their uniforms for political events.

I also thought they were supposed to uphold a certain decorum while in uniform. No PDA, no public drunkenness, etc. Seems to me just being at, let alone in, a gay parade would be demeaning to the uniform.

18 posted on 08/26/2012 10:42:30 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: Calusa
your translation is faulty, Calusa. We have always advocated listening to the military recommendations and accepting those which are best for the defense of the country. Bush did a good job including the military in decision making. Obama has an anti-military bias and seeks to weaken it so that the US is no longer a threat to Islam's worldwide expansionism.
19 posted on 08/26/2012 10:44:47 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: greatvikingone
"You cannot kick them out because people now know their preferences."

Yes, you can. And you have to.

How could you get rid of them with Attrition? First, you would be accepting the premise that they should be tolerated. Then, all you could do is try to make them uncomfortable. The debate would become, "How do we best accommodate homosexuals (mischief makers) in the military?"

20 posted on 08/26/2012 10:51:57 AM PDT by UnwashedPeasant
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To: greatvikingone
You cannot kick them out because people now know their preferences. Attrition is the best and most legal hope.

Sure you can. All that's required is a change in the rules. All those who voluntarily outed themselves get a nice honorable discharge.
21 posted on 08/26/2012 10:59:26 AM PDT by Antoninus (Sorry, gone rogue.)
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To: scottjewell

I hope the Republicans will also allow Chaplains to end their prayers with “in Jesus name we pray.”


22 posted on 08/26/2012 11:12:35 AM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord!)
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To: stars & stripes forever

That would be nice, wouldn’t it?


23 posted on 08/26/2012 11:15:12 AM PDT by scottjewell
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To: Antoninus

Antoninus, I’m not following...your baseing a non vote for Romney on what McKeon said? why not base it on what the article said the R party platform will be - If Romney is accepting the nom, he should be accepting the platform to change things like the platform is looking to do. McKeon is allowed to not want to address the matter again, but if his hireups or the CIC says we’re changing some thing, seems to me McKeon’s desire to not adress it is void.


24 posted on 08/26/2012 11:15:32 AM PDT by freeB
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To: Antoninus

“All that’s required is a change in the rules.”

Consider the legal system that allows a mass murderer terrorist to continue to receive active duty pay while sitting in prison three years after his crimes. Instead of paying homosexual military members to sue the military, it would be better to give teeth to the longstanding PDA code - heterosexuals abide it, why don’t homosexuals?


25 posted on 08/26/2012 11:44:28 AM PDT by greatvikingone
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To: scottjewell

I think gays should be banned from all public sector employment. We don’t need their kind in any public capacity and only once they have been driven back into the closest will their threat be over.


26 posted on 08/26/2012 11:58:23 AM PDT by Woodsman27
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To: UnwashedPeasant

The sensible course is obvious. Focus on behavior, not “beliefs”, “opinions”, or “feelings”. UCMJ defines a standard of conduct and consequences for its breach which is published and known to all serving members. If you have an internal value system which supports such conduct your life in the military will be that much easier, but the rules exist both for the safety of those who serve as well as to support the deadly serious mission of the military.


27 posted on 08/26/2012 12:01:56 PM PDT by AustinBill (consequence is what makes our choices real)
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To: greatvikingone
The lame duck rat Congress in December 2010 passed the law to encourage fags in our military. This was the last hurrah of the defeated Pelosi Congress that also gave us Obamcare.

It would be unwise to suddenly make illegal what was legal - people have rights too.

There is no right to be accepted in our military. Congress should reverse the law. It is not in keeping with American traditions and morals.

28 posted on 08/26/2012 12:57:59 PM PDT by Jacquerie (Exterminate rats.)
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To: scottjewell

Is this a joke article?

They would “radically” curtail gay rights in the military by banning on base gay weddings and uniformed military in pride parades? Yeah that will show them!

How about actually reversing DADT? What about the fact that we now have out of the closet generals? What about actually going beyond DADT and returning to the old policy of no gays in the military?

They take a mile and we take back half an inch. Nice of Romney to throw us a filthy bone, guess we should roll over now.


29 posted on 08/26/2012 1:34:40 PM PDT by BurningOak (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2830849/reply?c=1)
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To: Jacquerie

Dear conservatives,

When I throw a dog a bone I don’t need to know if it tastes good or not. Take the little I give you and be damn grateful I give you anything at all. I am not going to even bother to lie to you anymore, just hand over your money and votes.

-Sincerely Romney


30 posted on 08/26/2012 1:41:12 PM PDT by BurningOak (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2830849/reply?c=1)
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To: BurningOak

I hear you. I agree. You said it: They take a mile and we take back half an inch. May it not remain so. Actually, I don’t think it will: Times and cultures change. We won’t forever be in this present era. I think this will be a case of “what happens will only be believed once it has taken place.”


31 posted on 08/26/2012 3:15:49 PM PDT by scottjewell
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To: BurningOak

That’s about it. “Shut up and eat it” is what Romney gives social conservatives.


32 posted on 08/26/2012 3:17:54 PM PDT by scottjewell
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