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“AMERICA IS BETTER THEN BIRTHERISM” (The Barfy Wisdom of Liberalism)
Daily Caller ^ | August 25, 2012 | Jim Treacher

Posted on 08/26/2012 11:50:34 AM PDT by lbryce

That’s the message in the skies above today’s Romney/Ryan rally in Powell, Oiho Ohio. Courtesy of Jan Crawford at CBS News, here’s a banner ad that’s being flown overhead:

Yep. “Better then.” That’s what it says.

Maeve Reston at the LA Times says MoveOn.org is responsible for this. That makes sense, because they’re super-smart.

Speaking of words that people don’t know how to use, I’ve been informed by my old pal Dave Weigel (@daveweigel) that I’m a “birther.” The reason I’m a “birther” is that I think Obama was born in Hawaii. I’m also a “birther” because when Obama wants me to believe he went over 15 years without reading his own literary bio that falsely claimed he was born elsewhere, I get a little skeptical.

Thinking that Obama had anything to do with this, or even knew about it, is a “conspiracy theory.” According to Weigel, anyway. Yeah, what sort of unbridled narcissist would read his own literary bio? Not Obama, that’s for sure…

“Birther” means whatever it needs to mean at the moment a liberal uses it. People who think Obama wasn’t born in Hawaii are “birthers.” People who think Obama was born in Hawaii, and who wonder why he used to claim otherwise, are also “birthers.” The word has been rendered meaningless. Now it’s just an epithet to throw out when you don’t feel like thinking.

But hey, at least MoveOn spelled it right!

P.S. Romney, back in April: “I believe the president was born in the United States.” HOW DARE HE JOKE ABOUT IT???


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A day does not pass by when a new, utterly moronic, convoluted, brainless comment by a liberal convinces me that the ideology of left-wing, liberalism is an as yet unidentified mental disorder, characterized by a pathology that would be best described as having a mad-cow disease-like ravaged brain.

"America is better than Birtherism" is just so perfectly nutty, bizarre, Serling-esque it should become the Democrats' new permanent national mantra.

1 posted on 08/26/2012 11:50:39 AM PDT by lbryce
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To: lbryce

America is better then (sic) Frauds


2 posted on 08/26/2012 11:52:17 AM PDT by A_Former_Democrat (Now a Chick-fil-A customer . . . God bless Dan Cathy)
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To: lbryce

America ? you didn’t birth that.


3 posted on 08/26/2012 11:52:45 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: lbryce

Isn’t Kenya one of the 57 States?


4 posted on 08/26/2012 11:54:21 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds.)
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To: lbryce

i guess they are terrified someone will DEMAND 0bama submit his Constitutionally required eligibility documents

ie: birth certificate

we must DEMAND he SUBMIT his birth certificate... OFFICIALLY

of course, if he does... he will be committing felony forgery... which is why he has never officially submitted it


5 posted on 08/26/2012 11:54:35 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: lbryce

Perhaps the words were spelled correctly, but were out of order.

“Birtherism, then America is Better”


6 posted on 08/26/2012 11:59:33 AM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: lbryce

I don’t get it. Maybe a comma would help. “America is better, then birtherism”. I live in Literalville.

But what does it mean?

Geniuses.


7 posted on 08/26/2012 12:09:12 PM PDT by HotKat (Politicians are like diapers; they need to be changed often and for the same reason. Mark Twain)
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To: lbryce

Amerika be better then that silly ole Constitution.


8 posted on 08/26/2012 12:16:40 PM PDT by 109ACS (If this be Treason, then make the most of it. Patrick Henry, May 1765)
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To: lbryce

I’m convinced liberalism is nothing more than what psych used to call regression or schioaffective disorder: childish behavior in adults.


9 posted on 08/26/2012 12:17:55 PM PDT by Clock King
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To: lbryce

For a guy and his supporters, who so desperately want to prove that he was born in the USA, they are not willing to show any concrete evidence of it. His supporters are plainly afraid that the truth will leak out before the elections take place.

They know that his pappy NEVER was a US citizen — which only proves that Hussein is NOT a NBC.

This fact alone is conveniently ignored and never discussed by the dhimmicrats, the MSM and Congress.


10 posted on 08/26/2012 12:22:09 PM PDT by 353FMG (The US Constitution is only as good as those who enforce it.)
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To: lbryce

Wherever Stanley Dunham-Obama-Sotoro whelped him, i know one thing. He was raised in Indonesia in a massadra until he was 10, by a communist mom. At 10 she sent him to Hawaii to live with her CPUSA parents and to get diddled by CPUSA Frank Marshall Davis.
He never set foot on mainland America till age 18 in about 1980.
He hid that he spent a summer in Pakistan. (nobody really knows for how long, or who paid)

Wherever she whelped him, he AIN’T no American.


11 posted on 08/26/2012 12:22:41 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: Clock King
I’m convinced liberalism is nothing more than...

I believe it's worse than that. A viral psycho-pathogenic meme passed from one brain with it's shields down to the next weakened host. An infectious agent, but coded in ideas, not nucleic acids.
12 posted on 08/26/2012 12:25:59 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: sten

Huh? The birth certificate has been online for a while now....


13 posted on 08/26/2012 12:27:49 PM PDT by Inconvenient Truthteller
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To: lbryce

LOL! But then again (no pun intended), a liberal wouldn’t notice the grammatical error.


14 posted on 08/26/2012 12:28:44 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: lbryce

I think the idea was to look to the post-Obama future that starts next year, agree that this will mean that “America is better” and then recognize that “birtherism” will be the next big political trend.

Seems obvious to me. They just left out the comma. It should read::

“America is better, then birtherism”.


15 posted on 08/26/2012 12:32:30 PM PDT by InterceptPoint (.)
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To: lbryce

I am a birther because the lowbrow palovian emperor has no clothes libtards who foam over it have ZERO cred with me. Commander Zero lies, MSBC lies, etc...and Fox and other paid conservative entertainers like Rush and Beck enable the lies.....an honest man can no longer believe anything the machines says...he can only be ridiculed into silence.

Commander Zero lied his whole life when it advanced his wants. He was and wasn’t muslim, christian, american, kenyan, socialist, etc....

no caps on the ndroid today. curse you apple.


16 posted on 08/26/2012 12:35:11 PM PDT by Lowell1775
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To: lbryce

I mean really, it is just so low class to check to see if someone is actually eligible to be president before we let them destroy the country


17 posted on 08/26/2012 12:35:11 PM PDT by Mr. K ("The spread of evil is the symptom of a vacuum [of good]")
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To: Clock King
I think Romney continue to take little jabs at Obama, and watch how the enemdia freak out. Romney could say any of the following or all of them at different events and really keep the media off guard. Never mention Obama in these slams, but let the comparison sink in.

I earned my law license and I didn't relinquish it. All my diplomas have the name I was born with. I still have friends from high school, college, and law school who remember my being there. I registered for selective service in 1965. I only have one Social Security number. I never hung out with the communists and Marxist Professors and students. I know there are only 50 states in the US. I never went to a gay bath.

Let the media howl while listeners may decide to find out what Romney did that was .

18 posted on 08/26/2012 12:35:40 PM PDT by Betty Jane
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

The words are in the right order, they just left out the comma after “better”. See my post 15 and all will be clear.

But, I’m really just endorsing your idea from a slightly different path.


19 posted on 08/26/2012 12:36:12 PM PDT by InterceptPoint (.)
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To: lbryce

America is Birther!


20 posted on 08/26/2012 12:37:33 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong!)
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To: sten

The Constitution includes no requirement that specific documents be provided to prove eligibility.


21 posted on 08/26/2012 12:40:23 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: lbryce
For years I've preferred calling 'em moron.org. I guess we're lucky dailycuss didn't show one of their messages.

mediasmatters.. well I guess those dabblers would have just had a message containing obscene names -- that's about as far into issues they go.

22 posted on 08/26/2012 12:43:58 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: Inconvenient Truthteller

a pdf on a webpage is a FAR cry from being officially submitted to a federal agency as true and accurate

some person puts a pdf on a webpage gives 0bama cover ... deniability ... it’s just an artist representation... not a true document and would not be held up as official... therefore could not be tested whether or not its a forgery

therefore... DEMAND 0bama submit his documents OFFICIALLY

of course, if submitting federal documents via jpeg is acceptable... i’ll gladly submit my tax payments in similar fashion


23 posted on 08/26/2012 12:44:56 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: Sherman Logan

The Constitution includes no requirement that specific documents be provided to prove eligibility.
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There is no constitutional requirement for anyone to believe a person is a natural born citizen if he refuses to provide this simple documents.


24 posted on 08/26/2012 12:47:09 PM PDT by wintertime (:-))
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To: InterceptPoint

It’s a matter which is the cause and which is the effect. I was worried that someone would call me on the grammatical error in my version (use of wrong tense). I’d have put in a disclaimer; but “brevity is the sole of wit” and all that. (Or is that soul?)


25 posted on 08/26/2012 12:48:45 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Inconvenient Truthteller
Huh? The birth certificate has been online for a while now....
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A highly manipulated forgery has been online for a while now....

But...Obama does fail e-verify!

26 posted on 08/26/2012 12:49:35 PM PDT by wintertime (:-))
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To: wintertime

Quite true.

However, a majority of the American people voted for the guy.


27 posted on 08/26/2012 12:51:11 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan

nothing specific, obviously... but you still must provide proof via the standard accepted documentation at the time

which, in this case would be a birth certificate. the BC gives us location of birth as well as age. parentage proving natural born status must also be provided, otherwise the individual could have foreign allegiances by birth, which the founders were looking to avoid.


28 posted on 08/26/2012 12:54:21 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: lbryce
>p> “Birther” means whatever it needs to mean at the moment a liberal uses it. People who think Obama wasn’t born in Hawaii are “birthers.” People who think Obama was born in Hawaii, and who wonder why he used to claim otherwise, are also “birthers.” The word has been rendered meaningless. Now it’s just an epithet to throw out when you don’t feel like thinking.

When the Marxist Progressives get frustrated it used to be, "You're a HATER! You're a BULLY!". Now it's, "You're a BIRTHER!"

Sitting here laughing!

29 posted on 08/26/2012 12:54:54 PM PDT by wintertime (:-))
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To: lbryce
"I believe we must be directly over the most sensitive target area, Governor Romney.
I haven't seen this much FLAK since I flew Sarah Palin in from Alaska back in 2008."


30 posted on 08/26/2012 12:56:57 PM PDT by Iron Munro ("In any compromise between good and evil, it is only evil that can profit." - Ayn Rand)
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To: lbryce
Look what I found in my current copy of Funk and Wagnall's:

birtherism (bur' ther iz'em) n. 1. theory of derogatory tactics advanced chiefly by opponents of Barack Obama, advocating public discussion defining the birth location of the current resident of the White House based on the legal description of the President of the United States according to the United States Constitution. 2. also, any tactic designed to waylay the discussion will not work because at least 2/3rds of the American public are not idiots.

31 posted on 08/26/2012 12:57:30 PM PDT by Slyfox
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To: Sherman Logan

However, a majority of the American people voted for the guy.
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This just proves the effectiveness of our godless, compulsory, single-payer, socialist-entitlement, government owned. and Marxist run K-12 schools.


32 posted on 08/26/2012 12:59:06 PM PDT by wintertime (:-))
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To: Iron Munro

Does Trump have a card to play at the convention?


33 posted on 08/26/2012 1:00:32 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: Slyfox

Sitting here laughing! Very cute!


34 posted on 08/26/2012 1:00:51 PM PDT by wintertime (:-))
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To: wintertime
Thank you, thank you very much.

God blessed me with tremendous research skills.

35 posted on 08/26/2012 1:05:36 PM PDT by Slyfox
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To: Inconvenient Truthteller

Why let facts get in the way?


36 posted on 08/26/2012 1:40:56 PM PDT by kenavi (Obama doesn't hate private equity. He wants to be it with our money.)
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To: Sherman Logan
The Constitution includes no requirement that specific documents be provided to prove eligibility.

It does provide that voting requirements will be determined by the states. It's a little late to be concerned about now, because I doubt any states will change their laws before the election. But for future elections it could be done on a state-by-state basis.

37 posted on 08/26/2012 1:45:44 PM PDT by Kenton
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To: sten

The Constitution has no requirements as to documentation. This is no doubt because the Founders assumed the Electoral College would actually function as intended, and any proof of eligibility would be demanded by them.

In actual fact, of course, the EC never functioned as intended, except in its first two meetings.

We have had almost four years now since the last election. We have 50 states. Any one of those states could have passed a law spelling out required documentation to be on its ballot. None have.

To me that indicates quite clearly that we aren’t really serious about the issue.


38 posted on 08/26/2012 1:50:19 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan

if we aren’t going to uphold article 2 section 1... then the Constitution is in breach

if the Constitution is in breach... then all laws stemming from it are null and void

there is a reason millions of Americans expect the Constitution to be upheld


39 posted on 08/26/2012 1:55:14 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: Inconvenient Truthteller

No, a forgery has been online. Two forgeries, in fact. One a Certification of Live Birth (short-form) and one a long-form Birth Certificate. Sheriff Arpaio’s posse has confirmed forensically that the long-form is a forgery. On my blog I show that the short-form also has to be a forgery.

But nobody has to take either my word or the word of Arpaio any more, because the HI state registrar has officially weighted in: Alvin Onaka recently sent out a letter of verification to AZ SOS Ken Bennett confirming that the long-form posted to the White House website is NOT a “true and accurate representation of the original record on file” AND that the record they have on file in Hawaii is not legally valid.

So we’ve got it straight from the horse’s mouth in Hawaii that Obama has no legally-valid birth certificate there and has been instead presenting forgeries to the public. That’s what is revealed in an official government document provided to AZ SOS Ken Bennett.

The legal presumption at this point has to be the presumption of regularity - that Onaka’s response to Bennett was in compliance with the law and truthful. There are no legally-established birth facts for Obama based on a Hawaii birth certificate. There is nobody in this country who can LAWFULLY say that Obama is even old enough to be President, much less meets the citizenship requirements. And there never WILL be anybody who can lawfully claim either thing unless and until Obama presents his non-valid HI BC to a judicial or administrative person or body so the probative (evidentiary) value of it can be determined. Right now it has no more legal value than if it was printed on toilet paper.

IOW, unless and until Obama and Hawaii cough up all the evidence regarding the HI record’s veracity for forensic analysis, it has to legally be presumed that he has NOT qualified to be President. The burden of proof has totally shifted as a result of Onaka’s revelation to Bennett.

That’s why Obama is so touchy about this. He knows the doo-doo is about to hit the fan, big-time.


40 posted on 08/26/2012 2:01:25 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: lbryce

Michael Weiner Savage may be a bit erratic and sometimes he rubs me the wrong way, but he got this right: Liberalism is a mental disease.

Boy, did he ever.

Apparently the libs are also illiterate. Not surprising.


41 posted on 08/26/2012 2:02:05 PM PDT by upchuck ("Definition of 'racist:' someone that is winning an argument with a liberal." ~ Peter Brimelow)
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To: 353FMG
The Diversion Continues.

Even if Barry Soetoro aka Barack Hussein Obama had been birthed in the Lincoln Bedroom of the White House Obama is NOT a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN.

42 posted on 08/26/2012 2:03:27 PM PDT by ASA Vet (Natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. De Vattel)
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To: null and void

ping


43 posted on 08/26/2012 2:06:11 PM PDT by Fractal Trader
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To: lbryce
“Birther” means whatever it needs to mean at the moment a liberal uses it. People who think Obama wasn’t born in Hawaii are “birthers.” People who think Obama was born in Hawaii, and who wonder why he used to claim otherwise, are also “birthers.” The word has been rendered meaningless. Now it’s just an epithet to throw out when you don’t feel like thinking.

Unfortunately the word "racist" has been rendered unto the same fate. It has completely lost its meaning.

44 posted on 08/26/2012 2:08:28 PM PDT by upchuck ("Definition of 'racist:' someone that is winning an argument with a liberal." ~ Peter Brimelow)
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To: butterdezillion

He knows the doo-doo is about to hit the fan, big-time.
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Why do you think this?

I am very interested in knowing what you think may be happening. As you know, I respect your tireless work and your opinion.


45 posted on 08/26/2012 2:09:03 PM PDT by wintertime (:-))
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To: wintertime
This just proves the effectiveness of our godless, compulsory, single-payer, socialist-entitlement, government owned. and Marxist run K-12 schools.

Why must you turn every damned thread you invoke your 2 cents into one about your hatred for public schools and those who work in or attend?

BTW - my public schooled child picked out the error of the banner as soon as she read it.

46 posted on 08/26/2012 2:10:42 PM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: ASA Vet

Alvin Onaka refused to verify that Barack Hussein Obama is Obama’s dad, or that Stanley Ann Dunham is his mother, or any other facts of Obama’s birth. The only legal reason allowable for him to fail to verify those facts to a qualified requestor is if he cannot certify that the birth really happened that way. IOW, if those claims are not made on a valid BC. Onaka did verify that those are the parents claimed on the record they’ve got, but he can’t verify those claims as true because the record they’ve got is not legally valid. There is something so fishy about that BC that Hawaii doesn’t give the record ANY evidentiary value; the official record has no more legal weight than the color drawings people have posted here at FR.

IOW, there are no legally-established birth facts for Obama at all. Legally speaking, we know NOTHING about what is really the case with him. Nothing. And we never will until we get access to find out what evidence there really is for ANY claim about his birth. HI Gov. Neil Abercrombie said back in December of 2010 in an interview published in Hawaii that the record they have in Hawaii was going to be a problem for Obama’s re-election. And it is.


47 posted on 08/26/2012 2:12:17 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: Gabz
I am merely stating the TRUTH.

The reason more than 50% of our nation's citizens voted for Obama is ABSOLUTELY **directly** related to the indoctrination and miseducation of our citizens in our Marxist run, government owned socialist-entitlement K-12 indoctrination centers!!!

Is a “duh” needed here?????

48 posted on 08/26/2012 2:14:39 PM PDT by wintertime (:-))
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To: Sherman Logan
"The Constitution includes no requirement that specific documents be provided to prove eligibility."

Yes Sherman, and the Constitution doesn't contain the definition for who are natural born citizens just as it doesn't contain any definitions so that the ideas contained in the document would not be corrupted by the natural changes in language. The focus by most on where Obama was born, the lack of documents, is a smokescreen which suggests to those who have been snookered by the ploy that being born on our soil is sufficient qualification for the presidency. The Constitution requires a natural born citizen for the presidency, and doesn't define who are citizens, since those definitions were different in state constitutions among the nine original states approving the 1787 Constitution.

Article 1 Section 8 told congress to create "an Uniform rule for Naturalization". Barack Obama told the world he is a naturalized citizen, for having been born, as he told us, to a British subject, and thus himself born a subject of the British Commonwealth. He is a 14th Amendment, a naturalized citizen, by his own true statement, and not a natural born citizen, eligible to be president.

Obama's able legal staff, certainly including his Harvard Con Law Professor Larry Tribe, made sure he told the truth. Larry, and many other progressives don't like Article II Section 1, but have been unsuccessful in many attempts to amend it. Republicans too have tried to change it, Orrin Hatch in 2003 for example when Hatch wanted to enable Schwarzenegger to run. Obamo told us all he was ignoring the Constitution, not because of where he was born - he was probably born in Hawaii - but hides his papers to distract from the real issue. Obama has told us he is a naturalized citizen and is being protected by the usual suspects, including all Republicans, because neither is John McCain a natural born citizen. It was Obama Campaign Committee co-chair, along with Barack, who co-sponsored a bill, Senate Bill 2678, in February 2008, the ‘‘Children of Military Families Natural Born Citizen Act’’. Obama and McCaskill quite openly sponsored that bill to make McCain appear eligible. Certainly they knew that Congress has no authority to interpret the Constitution, but they knew few citizens know that. The bill failed, as may have been intended.

Obama's cadre are very clever political strategists. They certainly confused the issue, and did so once more in April, with McCaskill again co-sponsor, but this time a "Resolution" and not a "bill", in which every US Senator but McCain signed agreement with Judge Michael Chertoff, who testified before the Senate Judiciary Committee: “My assumption and my understanding is that if you are born of American parents, you are naturally a natural-born American citizen,” Chertoff replied. “That is mine, too,” said Leahy.”

No one will likely see Obama's birth certificate, his school records and citizenship status at enrollment (foreign student status would seem unnecessry given Obama's patron, according to Percy Sutton, was Whalid bin-Talal, largest external stockholder of News Corp, owner of Fox News and The WSJ), or his selective service documents. His path has been carefully prepared and identity protected by professionals. Chief Justice Roberts, who may have some secrets of his own, will not let the court affirm or deny the precedent established in Minor v. Happersett. At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens ..." If a progressive-leaning court reinterprets the Minor court's definition, at least everyone will know the truth, and decide for themselves if they want to have anchor babies, perhaps born to illegal Wahabbi terrorists, but in Arizona, eligible to be commander in chief and chief executive.

The Supreme Court Case Wong Kim Ark was interpreted to create anchor babies, but it didn't render Wong Kim, born to domiciled Chinese parents in San Francisco, a natural born citizen. Wong Kim was made a citizen. Now progressives are testing whether citizens can be duped into ignoring Article II Section 1. Several state courts, including Indiana, have reinterpreted Article II, and their decisions used to decide a number of challenges to Obama's eligibility, judicial activism, and flawed rulings. There has been no amendment to the natural born citizen provision thus far, in spite of between twenty six and thirty attempts to change it.

49 posted on 08/26/2012 2:16:53 PM PDT by Spaulding
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To: Gabz
your hatred ( Gabz)
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Truth isn't hatred. It is **truth**!

Your statement above is mind reading. It is impossible for you to know the feelings of my heart.

50 posted on 08/26/2012 2:19:46 PM PDT by wintertime (:-))
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