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Tropical Storm Isaac Should Rival Hurricane Katrina
Forbes ^ | 8/26/2012 | Michael Barak, Joseph Bastardi and Alan Lammey

Posted on 08/26/2012 11:56:51 AM PDT by sheikdetailfeather

On August 24th, we warned on Forbes that Tropical Storm Isaac could pose a threat to energy markets and even rival Hurricane Katrina in its destructive power (Could Tropical Storm Isaac Turn Into Another Katrina?). While the computer models are still showing a substantial spread in solutions, it appears more likely that Isaac will make landfall somewhere near the Louisiana, Mississippi Gulf Coast. This track will provide the storm more time to intensify over the very warm water of the Gulf of Mexico.

The entire Gulf Coast from Lake Charles, LA to Panama City, FL should be aware of the latest forecast model guidance. The reason for this large spread is because the computer models are split between whether a trough will capture Isaac or not. As of 8AM Sunday morning, it appears Isaac will not be captured and as a result, a more westward track is most likely.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Florida; US: Louisiana; US: Mississippi
KEYWORDS: hurricane; hurricaneisaac; isaac; katrina; rival
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I heard Bastardi talking about this on Hannity's radio show Friday.
1 posted on 08/26/2012 11:57:01 AM PDT by sheikdetailfeather
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To: sheikdetailfeather

I see no problem.
With Baraq and Big Sis on watch, it’s all taken care of.


2 posted on 08/26/2012 11:59:55 AM PDT by nascarnation (quit)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

Is there enough heat in the Gulf of Mexico to drive it to Katrina levels?


3 posted on 08/26/2012 12:00:17 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Yes.


4 posted on 08/26/2012 12:01:07 PM PDT by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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To: Jack Hydrazine

No. We have a democrat in office.


5 posted on 08/26/2012 12:01:51 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1315 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Obama, a queer and present danger)
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To: sheikdetailfeather
Tropical Storm Isaac Should Rival Hurricane Katrina

Um, no. Issac might reach Category 3, but a weaker Category 2 classification in much more likely. The damage from a storm of that strength will be bad, but nothing like that caused by Katrina.

6 posted on 08/26/2012 12:02:15 PM PDT by TonyInOhio (Send Sherrod Brown packing - www.JoshMandel.com)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

There’s still time for a popcorn run because you just know that NO woman will be on the bridge again complaining the bottled water she was given wasn’t chilled properly.


7 posted on 08/26/2012 12:02:15 PM PDT by bgill
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To: sheikdetailfeather

Hyperbole much?


8 posted on 08/26/2012 12:03:22 PM PDT by Mom MD (T he country needs Obamacare like Nancy Pelosi needs a Halloween mask)
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To: bgill

How did the Navy get involved in this thread???


9 posted on 08/26/2012 12:05:20 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

So Southern Decadence Weekend looks to once again have its flamboyant parade of perverts rained upon. Abundantly. With winds to match.

Katrina, Gustav, Isaac . . .

What’s it going to take?


10 posted on 08/26/2012 12:05:20 PM PDT by Jedidah
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To: sheikdetailfeather
Headline was changed on Forbes site from “could rival” to “should rival” within the past 30 minutes or so, without any change in the accompanying story.

Bottom line, they offer no reasons why this will play out as Katrina did. It is a pure guess

11 posted on 08/26/2012 12:06:03 PM PDT by beenaround
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To: sheikdetailfeather

I guess history is going to be re-written to show Katrina as the biggest storm to ever hit our shores.


12 posted on 08/26/2012 12:06:04 PM PDT by Gettin Betta
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To: TonyInOhio

Ike was just a Cat 2 at landfall, but it was huge. Devastation in Galveston. This one is very large, too. We shall see . . .


13 posted on 08/26/2012 12:06:57 PM PDT by Jedidah
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To: TonyInOhio

It might reach Cat 3, it might reasch Cat 5, it might not even become a hurricane. Unfortunately, we don’t have the technology to be very good at forecasting intensity yet. Katrina itself wan’t forecast to be any stronger than a Cat 3 at this point. What scares me about Isaac is his size. If he gets his act together and closes the COC, it could well bomb into a monster... but that may never happen.


14 posted on 08/26/2012 12:06:57 PM PDT by wolfman23601
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To: sheikdetailfeather
Get your buckets ready!


15 posted on 08/26/2012 12:08:56 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Gettin Betta

Not biggest, but most costly. Andrew was much more powerful... luckily it didn’t lay a direct hit on the city of Miami.


16 posted on 08/26/2012 12:08:56 PM PDT by wolfman23601
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To: wolfman23601

I did hear Bastardi say it could get to a CAT 3-5 in the warm waters of the Gulf when he spoke to Hannity Friday.


17 posted on 08/26/2012 12:10:51 PM PDT by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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To: Jedidah
Ike was just a Cat 2 at landfall, but it was huge.

True. It was also no Katrina.

If Issac can get organized over the next twelve hours or so (which seems likely), then it will probably slowly strengthen; I'd say it has a 5% chance of reaching the kind of intensity that Katrina had at landfall.

18 posted on 08/26/2012 12:11:34 PM PDT by TonyInOhio (Send Sherrod Brown packing - www.JoshMandel.com)
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To: sheikdetailfeather
I heard Bastardi on Hannity as well on Friday. He basically said that the storm would be so catastrophic that it would dominate the news cycle this coming week and unfortunately push the RNC off the front pages. He said that this storm would likely be the news event of the year like Katrina was a few years back.

I like Bastardi (and he's no liberal) as he's not afraid to go out on a limb on his forecasting. Fortunately, he is sometimes spectacularly wrong and I'm hoping this is one of those times.

BTW, speaking of Bastardi, I used to subscribe to his blog on AccuWeather for $5 a month. Now he is over at WeatherBell and charging $160 a year. That seems to be a bit steep to me just to get a blog. Does anybody get his WeatherBell blog and if so, is it worth it?

19 posted on 08/26/2012 12:11:53 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: beenaround
Bottom line, they offer no reasons why this will play out as Katrina did. It is a pure guess.

possibly a tactic to directly drive prices up on the market as soon as it opens Monday.

The market is being propped up and then driven up by many different tactics. This has been going on for quite some time now.

20 posted on 08/26/2012 12:11:53 PM PDT by VideoDoctor
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To: wolfman23601

I think the thing that made Katrina so bad was that timeframe that it increased to cat 5 in the gulf. That intensity is what got the storm surge going to such incredible levels, which is what did most of the damage.


21 posted on 08/26/2012 12:12:33 PM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR A SPECIAL PROSECUTOR!)
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To: Yaelle
Could be Øbøzø's brutha....

Irrespecctived, get read for Øbøzø's Katrina

22 posted on 08/26/2012 12:14:57 PM PDT by lightman (Settling for the "lesser of two..." is still choosing Evil)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Obama is steering this hurricane with his hurricane-weather machine (HAARP). Bush no longer is at the controls.


23 posted on 08/26/2012 12:16:22 PM PDT by Texas Songwriter (<)
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To: Jedidah

Ike was Cat 4 when it hit Cuba, and was a high Cat 2, nearly a Cat 3, when it hit the U.S. And, as you note, it was HUGE! The surge was more typical of a Cat 4 storm, and much of the damage was from the surge.

It remains to be seen whether Isaac will be that strong at U.S. landfall, but we know Ike was stronger in the early track.


24 posted on 08/26/2012 12:16:37 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: SamAdams76

I do not subscribe to his blog but he is on Twitter and Facebook.


25 posted on 08/26/2012 12:17:10 PM PDT by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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To: Yaelle

HEY, Looterman! Long time, no see. I guess he’s off to Tampa, bringing some brews for the pubbies!


26 posted on 08/26/2012 12:17:30 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: penelopesire

Agreed, but the GFS model has Isaac as a Cat 2/3 landing in SE LA and stalling out, barely moving for 2 days. It wouldn’t be as strong, but it would be sustained for a much longer time than Katrina, which moved through relatively quickly. That could rival the surge factor. Kind of like broiling a piece of meat for 10 minutes (Katrina)vs slow cooking it with a smoker over a 6 hour period. I’m not forecasting it, but if I lived in SE LA, I’d be boarding up today and planning on getting out of dodge tomorrow if the models don’t shift away from the area tonight.


27 posted on 08/26/2012 12:20:31 PM PDT by wolfman23601
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To: sheikdetailfeather

Does anybody know - are the Mississippi River and Lake Ponchartrain at lower levels this year, due to drought?

That could help a little.


28 posted on 08/26/2012 12:21:06 PM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: Jedidah

Has obama prepositioned assets near the Florida coast? the Alabama coast? the Mississippi coast? the Louisiana coast? the Texas coast? If he has I have not heard about being reported on the various news programs. How is Obabas Haiti doing...that was Obamas claim to success.


29 posted on 08/26/2012 12:21:10 PM PDT by Texas Songwriter (<)
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To: lightman

Katrina? Dis like Katrina? Again....It be jorge buhes fault.


30 posted on 08/26/2012 12:21:47 PM PDT by himno hero (hadnuff)
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To: Gettin Betta

IIRC, Camille in 1969 was bigger than Katrina.


31 posted on 08/26/2012 12:22:01 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

32 posted on 08/26/2012 12:23:26 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 ( Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: lacrew

The Mississippi is very low, hundreds of barges are stranded in Louisiana with not enough depth to return up north.


33 posted on 08/26/2012 12:23:26 PM PDT by nascarnation (quit)
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To: beenaround
Bottom line, they offer no reasons why this will play out as Katrina did. It is a pure guess pure wishful thinking...
34 posted on 08/26/2012 12:25:43 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1315 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Obama, a queer and present danger)
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To: wolfman23601

Excellent point. Yep..I would not want to be in those parts with that much rain sitting for days...that is for sure.


35 posted on 08/26/2012 12:26:07 PM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR A SPECIAL PROSECUTOR!)
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To: FreedomPoster

wasn’t Ike the one they were telling residents that didn’t evacuate to use a sharpie to write their name or something on their arms?


36 posted on 08/26/2012 12:27:11 PM PDT by Qwackertoo (Romney/Ryan 2012 The Future of Our Children and Their Children are at stake.)
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To: nascarnation

It was failure of the canal walls that did in New Orleans...not Katrina...it did do a job on Mississippi


37 posted on 08/26/2012 12:27:45 PM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: SamAdams76

Joe has a twitter account I have been watching all day.


38 posted on 08/26/2012 12:27:45 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: Texas Songwriter

Just today they started sending stuff to Florida and now it looks like it will spare Florida for the most part. Mark my word...Obama will be an epic failure at any disaster that hits Ms. or La. ....just like he was during the oil spill. Of course the media will ignore it and Jindal will do an awesome job, which the media will then try to credit Obama with Jindal’s competency ...lol.


39 posted on 08/26/2012 12:31:16 PM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR A SPECIAL PROSECUTOR!)
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To: SamAdams76
it would dominate the news cycle this coming week and unfortunately push the RNC off the front pages.

It won't take a Cat-5 to drive the RNC convention off the front pages.

A Cat-up-a-tree would suffice.

40 posted on 08/26/2012 12:32:34 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1315 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Obama, a queer and present danger)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

I am sure that it has been talked about, but what would happen if we dropped big bombs into it? Could they have any effect in breaking it up? The idea of bombs may be preposterous, but it seems that in this day and age there ought to be things we could do that would at least help.

Has anyone heard about anything, or thought of anything that might work to deflate one of these, at least a bit?


41 posted on 08/26/2012 12:40:29 PM PDT by Bellflower (The LORD is Holy, separated from all sin, perfect, righteous, high and lifted up.)
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To: null and void

I believe this.


42 posted on 08/26/2012 12:41:30 PM PDT by beenaround
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To: null and void

I believe this.


43 posted on 08/26/2012 12:41:30 PM PDT by beenaround
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To: wolfman23601

I think the sayings “another Katrina” or “its no Katrina” should be reserved for hurricanes in the path of New Orleans.

Katrina “the hurricane” would not be a household name if it didn’t hit a city below sea-level surrounded by inadequate levies. It wasn’t the storm of all storms.


44 posted on 08/26/2012 12:41:45 PM PDT by Gettin Betta
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To: fatima

Could you post a link to that twitter account?


45 posted on 08/26/2012 12:45:59 PM PDT by Husker24
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To: FreedomPoster

By Ike I assume you mean the 2008 hurricane? If so we in the People’s Republic of Illinois got 9” of rain from it, so it must have been one heck of a storm. That’s Northern Illinois at that.


46 posted on 08/26/2012 12:47:51 PM PDT by junta ("Peace is a racket", testimony from crime boss Barrack Hussein Obama.)
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To: sheikdetailfeather; Jack Hydrazine

http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=42003

Water Temperature (WTMP): 85.3 °F


http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=42099

Water Temperature (WTMP): 85.1 °


http://cdip.ucsd.edu/?nav=historic&sub=data&stn=144&stream=p1&xyrmo=201108&xitem=product10
Historical data shows todays water temps lower than average and also lower than last years at this time. 86-91 for 08/2011

My take nowhere near Katrina. Cat. 2 slim Cat. 3!
Not a weather forecaster but stayed last night at a Holi-——


47 posted on 08/26/2012 12:48:29 PM PDT by GOYAKLA (Recall/ Impeachment Day, November 6, 2012. FUBO, same for RINOs)
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To: Husker24

Found in 8 seconds with search

http://twitter.com/BigJoeBastardi


48 posted on 08/26/2012 12:50:05 PM PDT by nascarnation (quit)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

I remember watching cable news in the late afternoon telling everyone New Orleans was spared from Katrina. The next morning another story.


49 posted on 08/26/2012 12:51:27 PM PDT by Orange1998
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To: Gettin Betta
Katrina “the hurricane” would not be a household name if it didn’t hit a city below sea-level surrounded by inadequate levies.

Yep.

On Rebuilding New Orleans:

Turn New Orleans into a giant debris disposal facility.

Because of it's location at the mouth of the mighty Mississippi, it is ideally located to accept debris from the entire Mississippi basin and Gulf Coast.

Fill in the entire Crescent City area with enough construction debris, mine tailings, slag, and fly ash to build it up to 30 feet above sea level.

Cover it with 10 feet of dirt, incorporating underground utility grids, a few feet of topsoil, and rebuild on top of that.

Tel New Orleans would become the South's new 'Shining City on a Hill'.

Fund the entire project with fair market rate disposal fees.

50 posted on 08/26/2012 12:52:13 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1315 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Obama, a queer and present danger)
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