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Now the Forestry Dept is needing quarter million rounds of ammo (?)
fbo.gob ^ | 08/23/2012 | fbo.gov

Posted on 08/26/2012 1:29:21 PM PDT by autumnraine

Ammunition Solicitation Number: AG-91S8-S-12-0031 Agency: Department of Agriculture Office: Forest Service Location: R-5 Pacific Southwest Region

"DELIVERY IS IMPORTANT. AMMO NEEDED WITHIN 30 DAYS."

PDF link at site.


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272,000 rounds, including hollow points.
1 posted on 08/26/2012 1:29:28 PM PDT by autumnraine
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To: null and void

Nutjob Conspiracy Ping List


2 posted on 08/26/2012 1:30:40 PM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: autumnraine

Trees are dangerous!


3 posted on 08/26/2012 1:34:23 PM PDT by Reily
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To: autumnraine

Since the Federal FY ends on Sept 30th, this looks like buying to expend funds before end of FY.

On a more “Conspiritorial” note, the federal buy up of ammo could be to deplete the supply and drive up prices.

Think of a few years ago when most cpacity was diverted to military uses.

Just a thought


4 posted on 08/26/2012 1:34:53 PM PDT by 5Madman2 (There is no such thing as an experienced suicide bomber)
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To: autumnraine

considering the park rangers have to deal with bears, cougars and drug farmers... i can almost see the need for ammo.

unlike NOAA

why weather people need 50-60k rounds is still beyond me


5 posted on 08/26/2012 1:38:19 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: autumnraine

If Bigfoot heads south they’ll be ready!


6 posted on 08/26/2012 1:38:41 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: autumnraine

Foresters happening upon the marijuana fields and being shot at?


7 posted on 08/26/2012 1:39:30 PM PDT by theDentist (FYBO/FUBO; qwerty ergo typo : i type, therefore i misspelll)
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To: sten
why weather people need 50-60k rounds is still beyond me

Because 60k-70k won't fit in their trunk? (variation on an old joke)

8 posted on 08/26/2012 1:40:51 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: sten
"i can almost see the need for ammo....unlike NOAA..."

You've obviously never been charged by an angry spawning salmon. < /sarc>

9 posted on 08/26/2012 1:40:51 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: autumnraine
"I've got wood." Treebeard
10 posted on 08/26/2012 1:41:31 PM PDT by tumblindice (ICE is old school. Today it's INU: Immigration Noncontrol and Unenforcement)
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To: autumnraine; mnehring; COUNTrecount; Nowhere Man; FightThePower!; C. Edmund Wright; jacob allen; ...
(In your mind's eye read this as "not this shot again")...

Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping!

To get onto The Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping List you must threaten to report me to the Mods if I don’t add you to the list...

11 posted on 08/26/2012 1:41:31 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1315 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Obama, a queer and present danger)
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To: autumnraine

On another note, depending on the size of the armed personnel of the agency, the number of rounds may not be so out of line.

Let’s say 100 rounds per year per officer for qualification and and additional 2-300 per year for training. These numbers are fairly standard. That makes around 400 per officer per year.

There are freepers that say they shoot that much in a day.

At that number 272,000 rounds comes to a 400 rounds per officer allocation for 680 people. Really not so out of line.


12 posted on 08/26/2012 1:41:56 PM PDT by 5Madman2 (There is no such thing as an experienced suicide bomber)
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To: autumnraine

Within 30 days?

Is this for real?


13 posted on 08/26/2012 1:41:56 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: autumnraine

They must be expecting an attack of rabid beavers.


14 posted on 08/26/2012 1:42:31 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: autumnraine

Any way to search and find out if similar purchases have been made over the years?


15 posted on 08/26/2012 1:43:10 PM PDT by SueRae (See it? Hell, I can TASTE November from my house!)
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To: 5Madman2

Or they could require 680 officers to buy their own ammo or look for work in the dreaded private sector if they don’t like it.


16 posted on 08/26/2012 1:48:02 PM PDT by omega4179 ( el 0bama comio un perro)
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To: SueRae
Any way to search and find out if similar purchases have been made over the years?

That sounds like exactly the way to put this in perspective. If there actually were to be something afoot that demands a proper explanation- it'd be plain to see.

17 posted on 08/26/2012 1:48:35 PM PDT by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: BenLurkin

Probably an end of Fiscal Year buy-they need to expend the funds before Sept 30


18 posted on 08/26/2012 1:50:24 PM PDT by 5Madman2 (There is no such thing as an experienced suicide bomber)
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To: autumnraine
"We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.” --- Barrack Hussain Oboma

If we’re going to create some kind of national police force as big, powerful and well-funded as our combined U.S. military forces, isn’t this rather a big deal? Shouldn't some one be questioning the motives? Shouldn't someone at least be questioning all these new arms orders for people who don't necessarily need them?

If everything is immediately pushed off as a conspiracy theory without question, the truth would never be revealed until it's too late to do anything to stop it.

Question everything. That way, nothing goes unanswered.

19 posted on 08/26/2012 1:54:59 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: autumnraine

The latest hi-cap shooters let you waste ammo at astounding rates.

That, and didnt 8 people in New Yawk get shot by the cops that were rescuing them just the other day.

Friggen’ lead flying around all over the place!


20 posted on 08/26/2012 1:55:20 PM PDT by Delta 21 (Oh Crap !! Did I say that out loud ??!??)
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To: sten; autumnraine; All

“considering the park rangers have to deal with bears, cougars and drug farmers... i can almost see the need for ammo.”

They also have to deal with well armed illegal alien Mexican drug cartels. There have been ‘shoot outs’ over these pot plantations every year.


21 posted on 08/26/2012 1:59:16 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: autumnraine
Geographic range of the Pacific Southwest Region

Motto: "The sun never sets on Region 5!"...

22 posted on 08/26/2012 1:59:50 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: concerned about politics
“We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.” -— Barrack Hussain Oboma
If we’re going to create some kind of national police force as big, powerful and well-funded as our combined U.S. military forces, isn’t this rather a big deal? Shouldn't some one be questioning the motives? Shouldn't someone at least be questioning all these new arms orders for people who don't necessarily need them?


And if this civilian national police force shoot as well as NYPD’s finest at the Empire State Building, I don't know whether to duck for cover or stand in front of them.

23 posted on 08/26/2012 1:59:50 PM PDT by OwenKellogg
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To: 5Madman2
Are we talking about creating a police state here?
The U.S. Army alone has nearly 500,000 troops. That doesn’t count reserves or National Guard. In 2007, the U.S. Defense budget was $439 billion.
Is Obama serious about creating some kind of domestic security force bigger and more expensive than that?

If not, why did he say it? What did he mean?

So far, despite attempts to find out, the Obama campaign is still not talking.

Question everything. The answers are important.

24 posted on 08/26/2012 2:01:11 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: theDentist
A friend of mine is a ranger with the NFS. She started out at Arcadia National Park in 1989 and carried a .357 for protection against black bears and rabid animals. She left Acadia in 1994 and worked at sites in and around Washington DC for fifteen years before returning to Acadia in 2009. Now, when she goes out in the woods, she wears a Kevlar vest and carries an AR-15.

The Boston gangs operate meth labs throughout the park and then run their product down to the city in speedboats. She's had a couple of run-ins with them in the past couple of years.

25 posted on 08/26/2012 2:02:26 PM PDT by Stonewall Jackson ("I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy.")
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To: autumnraine
Other FR threads regarding BULK AMMUNITION PURCHASES:

SOCIAL SECURITY ADMINISTRATION (SSA):
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2918868/posts

DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY (DHS):
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2912281/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2916714/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2917938/posts

NATIONAL OCEANIC & ATMOSPHERIC ADMINISTRATION (NOAA):
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE (NWS):
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2918173/posts/a>

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2918078/posts

DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE; FORESTRY SERVICE:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2923123/posts THIS POST!

SOROS UNLOADS STOCKS FOR GOLD:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2919905/posts

PREPARATIONS FOR SOMETHING BIG???:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2919928/posts?page=6

WHO DOES THE GOVERNMENT INTEND TO SHOOT??
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2920247/posts?page=1

These are the ones I've bookmarked. There are more, undoubtedly.

26 posted on 08/26/2012 2:03:09 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: Delta 21
>"didnt 8 people in New Yawk get shot by the cops that were rescuing them just the other day.

Nannyburg is looking to ban ceramic planters. Those flower pots caused a lot of ricochet rounds to go random.

Without the dangerous flower pots the cops can spray and pray at will without the danger of rounds going stray.

27 posted on 08/26/2012 2:07:54 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (I'd rather have a bottle in front of me, than a Barack 0b0tt0my!)
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To: autumnraine
The Forest Service has armed rangers and police, and has for decades. There are around 800 of them in fact. That works out to less then 350 rounds of ammunition each. I'm beginning to suspect that since that first SS purchase popped up, people have begun to see connections everywhere, even when there isn't one. We saw this with the whole "Freeway Cannibal" incident - all of sudden, stories of local barbarism that, while abnormal, were hardly unheard of, went national as people began seeing things moving every corner and began stringing together unrelated dots. In order to show that there is indeed something going on, it would be necessary to not just take a case of current ammunition purchases, but rather demonstrate that such orders are abnormal. That means checking on ammo orders in prior years, and see whether, relative to the number of armed personnel, annual purchases have shown a dramatic increase.
28 posted on 08/26/2012 2:09:44 PM PDT by JerseyanExile
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To: concerned about politics

I do question everything. Finding motivation for what people do is important to me.

My previous statements are merely based on the math and the funding realities of the fedgov.

The motivation for same is up to much speculation


29 posted on 08/26/2012 2:09:48 PM PDT by 5Madman2 (There is no such thing as an experienced suicide bomber)
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To: null and void

Within 30 days?!?!?!

The FS has been very encroaching in many western states. Our County Sheriff had to get very stern and threatening with them. They wanted to (and probably have not given up) make it so basically no one living here could access fed forest lands for anything. No wood cutting permits lately, they don’t want mushroom pickers, and they close off roads. And as for illegal MX marijuana gardens???? All they do is warn us citizens to steer clear!!!


30 posted on 08/26/2012 2:09:51 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
And the scariest of them all:

20,000 RUSSIAN COMMANDOS ENTER THE U.S. VIA THE CANADIAN BORDER..

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2922261/posts?page=71

Hmmm.. And what was that 'undetected' Russian submarine doing recently along the gulf of Mexico???

31 posted on 08/26/2012 2:12:22 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

The government purchases could just be in advance of a possible re-election of 0bama WHICH WOULD CAUSE CITIZENS TO HAVE A RUN ON AMMUNITION depleting supply thereby affecting government supply.


32 posted on 08/26/2012 2:18:15 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: 5Madman2

I wonder how much they have purchased in each of the last five years.

Can’t someone can get that information?


33 posted on 08/26/2012 2:23:27 PM PDT by Selene
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To: Reily

It’s The Day of the Triffids, were all gonna die!!!!!!!!!! Well enough of my ranting.


34 posted on 08/26/2012 2:31:02 PM PDT by JimC214
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To: JerseyanExile
This does not, however, seem to have anything to do with the Forrestry Service.
If you go to the link you find the purpose for this purchase is:

This acquisition is being advertised as a set-aside for; Self-Certified Small Disadvantaged Business, Service Disabled Veteran Owned, Veteran Owned Business.

As a Veteran I need to come up with a business where the government will buy my ammo!

But I bet DEBORAH DEVAULL will know. From the PDF - ddevaull@fs.fed.us

How soon after emailing her asking that question will I have black helicopters hovering over my house, do ya think?

35 posted on 08/26/2012 2:36:35 PM PDT by grobdriver (Proud Member, Party of No! Nobama, No Way, No How!)
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To: JimC214
Hi neighbor. I'm forest ranger Frank and I'd like to hear you sing `Candy Coated Clown' around that campfire. And get me a PBR.
36 posted on 08/26/2012 2:41:28 PM PDT by tumblindice (ICE is old school. Today it's INU: Immigration Noncontrol and Unenforcement)
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To: JerseyanExile

This is for California ONLY.


37 posted on 08/26/2012 2:51:02 PM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: sten

Here in CA, rangers for town, county and state parks run up against heavily armed Mexican drug gang members growing week. Their encampments are usually heavily fortified. The LEOs that raid the camps go in with some big armaments.


39 posted on 08/26/2012 3:14:07 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: sten

NOAA keeps putting fish stock off limits for no reason they may need lots of ammo.
NO Snook???


40 posted on 08/26/2012 3:14:14 PM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Hey Mitt, F-you too pal)
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To: sten
Here in CA, rangers for town, county and state parks run up against heavily armed Mexican drug gang members growing weed (not "week" -- if only they were growing "weak"). Their encampments are usually heavily fortified. The LEOs that raid the camps go in with some big armaments.
41 posted on 08/26/2012 3:14:38 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: autumnraine
I don't understand why the forrestry department gets that many, when the Social Security Administration only gets 174,000 rounds! It's just not fair!

Mark

42 posted on 08/26/2012 3:14:43 PM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: Joe 6-pack

“You’ve obviously never been charged by an angry spawning salmon”?
NO but I’ve had a 58 pound bull doplhin slap hell out of me with his tail and had a 7 foot sailfish try to srear me when he jumped in to my boat at the end of my rod.


43 posted on 08/26/2012 3:18:12 PM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Hey Mitt, F-you too pal)
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To: 5Madman2

LOL Probably about right. If 0 gets re-elected, I imagine we’re going to see another huge leap in gun & ammo sales. A certain feral segment of the population is off the charts already. I suspect there may be a lot more concern for personal safety ahead. Just sayin’.


44 posted on 08/26/2012 3:25:14 PM PDT by KGeorge
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To: 5Madman2

We shoot 500rds per person at a weekend Appleseed clinic. See my tagline.


45 posted on 08/26/2012 3:25:41 PM PDT by ebshumidors ( Marksmanship and YOUR heritage http://www.appleseedinfo.org)
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To: autumnraine

Don’t worry. Liberals don’t know how to use guns. Send em blanks. They will never realize.


46 posted on 08/26/2012 3:29:24 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: autumnraine

is the buidup of ammo and supplied through various departments, for the riots that will occur when soetoro hussein steals the vote via the new soros vote counter in spain?


47 posted on 08/26/2012 3:33:36 PM PDT by biggredd1
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To: JerseyanExile

Yout post 28 is the rational approach to these developments.


48 posted on 08/26/2012 3:35:12 PM PDT by OldPossum
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To: Selene; 5Madman2
Just providing a link, not attesting to the accuracy...
@The History Of DHS Ammunition Purchases
The second chart, show below, demonstrates the total number of ammunition requested by year. After that chart, is the breakdown by percentage of the year against the total amount requested. As can be seen, 58% of all the ammunition that has been ordered, was ordered under the Obama Administration.
2004 0.06%
2005 0.17%
2006 6.80%
2007 1.76%
2008 32.40%
2009 1.00%
2010 19.98%
2011 25.30%
2012 12.51%

49 posted on 08/26/2012 3:42:22 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: autumnraine
What's with these Demobrats? Since these 1960s Marxist-Alinsky campus psycho spoiled brats took over the traditional, patriotic Democratic Party in the 1970s now they and their bratty ideological issue are totally out of control.

BJ practiced on the Serbs and now BO is aiming for us.

I remember reports out of Serbia of Serbian children holding candles and wearing bull's-eye targets as the Clinton Administration's failed policy shifted to killing every Serb until they reject Milosevic and hand him over to NATO and surrender Kosovo to the KLA.

Then later that same year (1999) Clinton's DoJ and FBI continued ignoring the radical Muslims and put PROJECT MEGIDDO into effect and armed themselves against the Christians for when they all go nuts on New Years Eve 2000.

Should Tea Party folks start wearing bull's eye pins?

50 posted on 08/26/2012 3:47:26 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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