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Ron Paul: Had People Listened to Me, We Could Have Prevented 9/11
Slate ^ | 08/25/2012 | David Weigel

Posted on 08/26/2012 5:53:59 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

TAMPA -- He lost the Ames straw poll by a whisker, he peaked too early in Iowa's caucuses, he missed the big headlines by not winning Maine's preference poll. Finally, today, Ron Paul came into some luck. The threat of Hurricane Isaac was scrapping the first day of the Republican National Convention. Reporters who had planned to preview day one were screwed. Editors suddenly remembered that Ron Paul was supposed to do something or other. And off they went to the Sun Dome, the arena at Southern Florida University, where 7000-odd people would join the "We Are the Future Rally."

It was Paul's second attempt at an "alternative convention." In 2008, he brought supporters to Minneapolis for the "Rally for the Republic." Tucker Carlson, in his pre-Daily Caller says, emceed the proceedings. I should say: He emceed them until Jesse Ventura spoke and started talking about 9/11, which scared Carlson (and Willie Geist) the hell out of there. Gary Johnson spoke at that rally, when he was a retired politician. Now that he was a Libertarian presidential candidate, he was absent. This was a Ron Paul show, a kind of tribute, and the candidate would use it to say all the things people never let him say. "I don't do it out of sacrifice," said the candidate. "I do it out of self-interest. I do it because it's good for me."

They say "Osama bin Laden would still be alive if we listened to you," said Paul. "You know what I say? So would the 3000 people killed on 9/11!" That, and every sticking-it-to-the-neocons comment, got huge cheers. When America's agressive, said Paul, "it's easier for them to kill us over there than to come over here, where the Second Amendment is alive and well."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 911; losertarian; paulestinians; ronpaul; terrorism; truthers

1 posted on 08/26/2012 5:54:04 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Amen Ron, I you would have listened to me a lot of bad stuff would not have happened.

We have a lot of crap to clean up. It is what it is.

Baby steps. One step at a time.


2 posted on 08/26/2012 5:58:15 PM PDT by hadaclueonce (you are paying 12% more for fuel because of Ethanol. Smile big Corn Lobby,)
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To: SeekAndFind

Any of us could have prevented 9/11 by letting the islamderthals eat their oil, fight their own wars, and prevent them from coming here.


3 posted on 08/26/2012 5:59:04 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: SeekAndFind

And had people listened to you, Kuwait would be called Iraq.


4 posted on 08/26/2012 5:59:49 PM PDT by TonyInOhio (Send Sherrod Brown packing - www.JoshMandel.com)
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To: SeekAndFind

Ron Paul has become a legend in his own mind.


5 posted on 08/26/2012 6:00:20 PM PDT by Rudder
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To: hadaclueonce

Once we start cleaning it up, we can point fingers and sending folks to jail.

Our first task is to fix it.


6 posted on 08/26/2012 6:00:50 PM PDT by hadaclueonce (you are paying 12% more for fuel because of Ethanol. Smile big Corn Lobby,)
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s a shame he has it all wrong on defense..
I tried to watch it on TV, but the speakers were too sleep-inducing.


7 posted on 08/26/2012 6:00:55 PM PDT by DivineMomentsOfTruth ("Give me Liberty or I'll stand up and get it for myself!")
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To: SeekAndFind

I know Ron Paul is old but come one he really talked to Thomas Jefferson about islam and what to do about them.


8 posted on 08/26/2012 6:04:18 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: SeekAndFind

So when the muslims first attacked US interests in 1783 off the cost of Libya, listening to Ron Paul would have been able to stop it?

The truth be known, muslims have a long history of attacking anything not muslim. In the absence of things non-muslim, they will attack other muslims. It is their way. Those that fail to understand this will suffer the consequences of their naive beliefs.


9 posted on 08/26/2012 6:05:26 PM PDT by Dutch Boy
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To: SeekAndFind

This is a pretty biased account. I’m going to look for more details. It’s an old trick to take the most provocative (or seemingly provocative) thing a person says and try to make the whole story about it.


10 posted on 08/26/2012 6:05:31 PM PDT by Ronin (Dumb, dependent and Democrat is no way to go through life - Rep. L. Gohmert, Tex)
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What Paulinian Planet does this writer live on?


11 posted on 08/26/2012 6:05:52 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Ron Paul is one odious individual and an anti-Semite, too. Thank god this delusional fool is retiring and we are finally rid of him at the end of this congressional session. His ego has no known limits. At least he gave us a son who is much brighter.
12 posted on 08/26/2012 6:05:58 PM PDT by Dave W
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To: Dutch Boy

cost = coast.


13 posted on 08/26/2012 6:06:37 PM PDT by Dutch Boy
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To: SeekAndFind

wRONg Paul is retarded. His acolytes are worse.


14 posted on 08/26/2012 6:07:16 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Surrender would have prevented 911 at the cost of much worse here later.


15 posted on 08/26/2012 6:07:26 PM PDT by Ingtar (Everyone complains about the weather, but only Liberals try to legislate it.)
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To: TonyInOhio

“And had people listened to you, Kuwait would be called Iraq.”


Which actually demonstrates the point. We should have killed Saddam and his henchmen all properly the first time, instead of having to come back and do it again. And then we still don’t do it right, because we expect them to have a Democracy and be all enlightened and perfect despite the fact they’ve lived in a backward society ruled by a tyrant. The much maligned Machiavelli, who is correct, noted that it is very unlikely for a people who have lived under such conditions to continue long under freedom. It becomes even worse when you realize political Islam, which is coopted by the Marxists, is obsessed with absolute control and setting up a world wide caliphate. But here we our promoting these “freedom” movements like in Egypt (Even one of Romney’s advisers was bashing Glenn Beck for predicting it would turn out bad) or Syria or Iran and expecting something different.

I say if you need to kill them, kill them, and do it properly, and don’t sit around spending billions to trillions to rebuild them when they won’t even appreciate it. Even Mir Hussain Mousavi, the “green” leader in Iran, was the same fellow who invented Hizbollah, the Iranian anti-dissident police, and had KGB handlers for his teachers.


16 posted on 08/26/2012 6:09:22 PM PDT by RaisingCain
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To: SeekAndFind
Ron Paul: Had People Listened to Me, We Could Have Prevented 9/11

Sounds like Paul and Jeremias Wright are the prescient ones.

17 posted on 08/26/2012 6:23:13 PM PDT by stevem
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To: SeekAndFind
Ron Paul: Had People Listened to Me, We Could Have Prevented 9/11

Sounds like Paul and Jeremias Wright are the prescient ones.

18 posted on 08/26/2012 6:23:18 PM PDT by stevem
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To: SeekAndFind

Seriously, is he delusional? A plan that was in the making during Clinton’s tenure would halt because Ron Paul was prez, early onset Alzheimers or delusions or both.

Can we have one election where we don’t have a Ross Perot figure???


19 posted on 08/26/2012 6:23:25 PM PDT by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Muzzies only understand and respend to brute force, you have to crush them before they crush you!


20 posted on 08/26/2012 6:24:32 PM PDT by WellyP (question!)
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To: cripplecreek

9/11 could have been prevented if some airport clerks had done their jobs.


21 posted on 08/26/2012 6:26:43 PM PDT by rabidralph (http://www.patriotcalendars.com/)
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To: cripplecreek
“Any of us could have prevented 9/11 by letting the islamderthals eat their oil, fight their own wars, and prevent them from coming here.”

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Roger that CC, If we had Patriots for politicians instead of the self serving A$$holes which comprise at least 95% of the gov. we would be the the most powerful nation in modern history. We were at one time but those same self serving politicos have pissed it all away. May all Progressives, Commies, Liberals, Socialists and any other assorted filth of the earth I may have forgotten all die screaming.

22 posted on 08/26/2012 6:27:13 PM PDT by mongo141 (Revolution ver. 2.0, just a matter of when, not a matter of if!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Ron Paul is only one slight step up from Obama. A Libertarian Leftist lunatic who is clueless of Islam, only slightly less dangerous than Obama’s MarxoFascism.

The Left and Jihadist Islam are allies (see the Jummah before the DNC convention thread) and Ron Paul is right there with them.


23 posted on 08/26/2012 6:43:22 PM PDT by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: SeekAndFind

Ron Paul jumped the shark years ago....


24 posted on 08/26/2012 6:47:26 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: SeekAndFind

He supports Iran getting a nuke.That’s all I need to know about him.


25 posted on 08/26/2012 7:00:14 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Watch "Obama's America" And You'll Vote Romney!!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Yeah, you know, Ron, keeping and bearing firearms? Nice when some head-case college kid busts in the emergency exit of your movie theater and starts shooting. When people are hijacking commercial airliners and flying them straight at the high-rise (or even low-rise) office building? Not so much.


26 posted on 08/26/2012 7:03:37 PM PDT by RichInOC (Palin 2012: The Perfect Storm.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The author should try The University of South Florida....it only has about 45,000 students


27 posted on 08/26/2012 7:44:11 PM PDT by representativerepublic (...loose lips, sink ships)
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To: SeekAndFind
Had we listened to Ron Paul; hmmm.

For one; there would statues of Adolf Hitler all over London, and the streets would have German names.

Hawaii would have the General Tojo victory park at the Pearl Harbor (now called the Divine Wind Naval Base) Naval Base.

He did state that the US had no business being involved in World War II.

28 posted on 08/26/2012 7:54:47 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Encourage all of your Democrat friends to get out and vote on November 7th, the stakes are high.)
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To: SeekAndFind

29 posted on 08/26/2012 7:56:07 PM PDT by rlmorel ("Rub some bacon on it.")
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To: TonyInOhio

And so? Is Kuwait a territory of our United States or did I miss something?


30 posted on 08/26/2012 8:12:09 PM PDT by Hostage (Be Breitbart!)
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To: Dutch Boy

Different circumstances and conditions. The Barbary Coast Pirates demanded 15% of the US Treasury as ransom. Most Americans at that time said pay it and avoid conflict because the country was deeply pacifistic and adverse to war.

Washington, Adams and Jefferson were in favor of war with the Barbary Coast pirates, They finally prevailed.

It really had nothing to with Muslims, it had to do with pirates, very similar in motive and intent of current day Somali pirates. But there were plenty of Non-Muslim pirates at the time as well.


31 posted on 08/26/2012 8:18:52 PM PDT by Hostage (Be Breitbart!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Sure. had people listened to us, we could have also (had the effing bomber recruitments in the US ongoing 6 days before 9.11, no one wanted to know. Almost cost us our lives),

The US was sold out a long time before 9.11, and Ron was not exactly a help.


32 posted on 08/26/2012 9:05:10 PM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (I will fear no muslim))
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To: SeekAndFind

Muslims are killing Christians in Nigeria and Nigerian Christians aren’t in Iraq.
Clearly Paul thinks Muhammed was a man of peace who never picked up the sword and the Koran says love thy enemies!


33 posted on 08/26/2012 9:52:26 PM PDT by RginTN
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To: SeekAndFind

Sure, now he tells us...


34 posted on 08/26/2012 11:18:03 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (....The days are long, but the years are short.....)
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To: TonyInOhio

So what? Why is It our problem if the Kuwaitis were drilling sideways to take iraqi oil...


35 posted on 08/27/2012 1:22:04 AM PDT by hannibaal
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To: SeekAndFind

Ron Paul’s point is that it was years of US intervention that caused the islamists to hate us enough to plan 9/11.

Which means Ron Paul would need to be President for the last 100 years or so.

Better yet, if Ron Paul was our dictator and king, we would never have had 9/11.


36 posted on 08/27/2012 5:38:47 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (When religions have to beg the gov't for a waiver, we are already under socialism.)
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