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MILLER: EXCLUSIVE: Trump on Romney's birther comment
Washington Times ^ | August 26, 2012 | Emily Miller

Posted on 08/26/2012 8:28:48 PM PDT by Seizethecarp

Mitt Romney said on Friday in his native state of Michigan that, "No one has ever asked to see my birth certificate. They know that this is the place that we were born and raised." The Republican presidential candidate insisted afterwards that it was just a joke. That didn't stop Obama campaign manager Jim Messina from immediately used the comment in a fundraising appeal, calling it "a new low for Mitt Romney."

"That wasn't a low at all," the real estate mogul told me in a sit-down interview on Sunday in Sarasota. "The low was when they accused Gov. Romney of essentially murder, when they called him a felon. Those are the lows. What he said is not a low at all."

Mr. Trump said that more will come out about the legitimacy of Mr. Obama's birth in the weeks and months leading up to the election. The Constitution says that only native-born Americans can be president. Mr. Trump cited polls showing that, "A tremendous amount of people believe there is certainly a validity to it."

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; certifigate; naturalborncitizen; obama; romney; trump
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1 posted on 08/26/2012 8:28:53 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: Seizethecarp

What’s needed here is some bare-knuckles whoop-ass.


2 posted on 08/26/2012 8:36:56 PM PDT by pingman ("Human history seems logical in afterthought, but a mystery in forethought." (Strauss & Howe))
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To: Seizethecarp

For a man that supposed to usher in a new age of government transparency he sure seems to be very opaque.


3 posted on 08/26/2012 8:38:15 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: pingman

Your wish is my command. lol


4 posted on 08/26/2012 8:38:38 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: Seizethecarp
Mr. Trump said that more will come out about the legitimacy of Mr. Obama's birth in the weeks and months leading up to the election. The Constitution says that only native-born Americans can be president.

This is incorrect. The Constitution in fact provides that a person must be a natural born citizen in order to be eligible to serve as President.

Why would this journalist misrepresent a very well understood constitutional precept?
5 posted on 08/26/2012 8:41:51 PM PDT by Milton Miteybad (I am Jim Thompson. {Really.})
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To: Seizethecarp
It is time for Obama to explain why he is using a Connecticut social security number stolen from a dead man.
6 posted on 08/26/2012 8:48:27 PM PDT by Baynative (A man's admiration for absolute government is proportionate to the contempt he feels for others)
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To: Milton Miteybad

Because US Constitution does NOT DEFINE what a Natural Born Citizen is. Only the SCOTUS has the final authority to interpret constitution. Anybody else’s opinion is irrelevant. If the current SCOTUS has not ruled against the current occupier of White House, then implicitly they have accepted him as NBC based on his fake Hawaii BC.


7 posted on 08/26/2012 8:50:36 PM PDT by entropy12 (I can't think of a single Mormon I have met in US in 52 years whom I did not like. Always polite.)
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To: Seizethecarp

America ? you didn’t birth THAT.


8 posted on 08/26/2012 8:52:17 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: entropy12

No, they’ve simply refused to accept a “case” about it. They’re reserving the right to take it up later. As Justice Thomas said, they’re “evading” that issue. They can do that because all the lower courts said there was no case because the plaintiff lacked standing.


9 posted on 08/26/2012 8:55:21 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: entropy12
So...the Supreme Court has actually heard a case concerning presidential eligibility under Article II, Section 1, U. S. Constitution? Really? I must have missed that.

Even if they have, that in and of itself does not explain why this "journalist" misrepresented the pertinent requirement.
10 posted on 08/26/2012 8:57:41 PM PDT by Milton Miteybad (I am Jim Thompson. {Really.})
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To: Baynative

“It is time for Obama to explain why he is using a Connecticut social security number stolen from a dead man.”

There isn’t even a conspiracy or a cover up here -— it’s publicly known. His fraudulent SS# has been demonstrated and documented to not pass e-verify, like mine had do to in order to get a job.

Yet the media yawns while virtually every law enforcement apparatus plays dumb and blind.

Are there no men left at the helm?

He should be unable to show his face in public because of the public outcry!


11 posted on 08/26/2012 8:58:44 PM PDT by Bshaw (A nefarious deceit is upon us all!)
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To: Milton Miteybad

If you follow the news, it will become clear to you that SCOTUS has not accepted the NBC case against Obama on grounds of insufficient cause. SCOTUS only takes up cases they deem worthwhile.


12 posted on 08/26/2012 9:01:57 PM PDT by entropy12 (I can't think of a single Mormon I have met in US in 52 years whom I did not like. Always polite.)
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To: Bshaw
Identity theft is a felony.

I hope that someday the media is held to account for creating and then defending Obama and his agenda of destructing America.

13 posted on 08/26/2012 9:05:20 PM PDT by Baynative (A man's admiration for absolute government is proportionate to the contempt he feels for others)
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To: American Constitutionalist

Awesome line!


14 posted on 08/26/2012 9:13:23 PM PDT by libertarian27 (Check my profile page for the FReeper Online Cookbook 2011)
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To: butterdezillion

Would they take the case after Romney wins the election ?


15 posted on 08/26/2012 9:14:03 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: Seizethecarp
One of the fact check sites says "[Trump] claims that no hospital in Hawaii has a record of Obama's birth. Hospital records are confidential under federal law . . . ." The implication is that Trump is lying.

Romney says that Harper Hospital was the place of his birth.. oh yeah, prove it. Have an employee of that fact check place ask Harper for confirmation that Romney's mother was a patient there on the date of Romney's birth.

Are Hospital records that confidential under federal law?

Ask the "fact checkers" to show Harper's response. If both the hospital and the fact checkers say that federal law prohibits ask them to prove it.

16 posted on 08/26/2012 9:17:56 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: libertarian27
MUTTLEY approves this message...

America ? You didn't birth THAT .... Hell no...
17 posted on 08/26/2012 9:20:21 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: entropy12

Supposedly SCOTUS chooses to hear cases that are so significant and important that they need to rule on them.

But I’ll take Justice Thomas’ word on it: they’re evading this one. They can afford to do it because no case has actually resulted in a ruling so they can decline to hear any of the cases without affirming any precedent. No cases have been decided because every case has been said to be no case.

That might change, however, now that Alvin Onaka has confirmed that the birth record for Obama in Hawaii is not legally valid. There are no legally-established birth facts for Obama, according to the HI state registrar’s official legal document sent to AZ SOS Ken Bennett. That means that nobody in America can LAWFULLY swear that Obama is eligible, since the legal presumption is that he has NOT qualified. Anybody who does swear to that will immediately be known as a perjurer, since the only way any birth facts can be legally established - according to HRS 338-17 - is when the certificate is actually presented as evidence to a judicial or administrative person or body and the probative value of the non-valid BC is determined. Without that process taking place, it is known that anybody swearing to his eligibility or him being the duly-chosen candidate of the DNC is committing perjury.

By simply presenting an Official Certification of Nomination to any state SOS any person is committing the state and federal felony of election fraud. Whoever signed the OCON committed perjury by doing so. And any SOS who knows of the fraud and fails to report it to law enforcement commits misprision of fraud.

f committed, all these crimes will be known automatically, because Onaka confirmed that there are no legally-established birth facts for Obama, and according to HI law there never CAN be any unless and until the process of determining the probative value according to the rules of evidence required by judicial and administrative entities is completed, AFTER the BC is submitted as evidence.

And if what everybody is saying is correct - that the SOS’s cannot require a birth certificate to be presented - then there is no legal avenue for Obama to even DO that. He’s stuck. The only way he could EVER qualify as eligible is if a SOS actually kept him off the ballot and he sued - providing an opportunity for him to present his non-valid HI BC as evidence within a legal setting. Of course, the SOS that he sued would have standing for discovery - to subpoena all the records that pertain to the genuineness and veracity of the record - including microfilms, paper copies, computer transaction logs, etc.

IOW, Obama has failed to qualify and unless some SOS keeps him off the ballot there is not even a legal way that he could POSSIBLY qualify, ever.


18 posted on 08/26/2012 9:23:56 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: Bshaw

At this point, the fact that Obama’s SSN doesn’t pass e-verify is not surprising. It has been publicly available for a while, and should be considered compromised.

It has likely been flagged as invalid, so that no one can use it. If you want to test mt theory, try using the LifeLock guy’s SSN that he has been putting on billboards. It would also be flagged.


19 posted on 08/26/2012 9:25:21 PM PDT by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good WOMAN (Sgt. Kimberly Munley) with a gun)
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To: Milton Miteybad

“The Constitution in fact provides that a person must be a natural born citizen in order to be eligible to serve as President.”

I have found it virtually impossible to get otherwise well-informed public figures to acknowledge that “natural born” for the purpose at hand REQUIRES having had both parents being U. S. citizens at the time of birth of the candidate in question, IN ADDITION TO birth occurring on U. S. territory. For Bill O’Reilly to maintain his obtuseness on this question is one thing, but even Dinesh D’Sousa stated that birth on U. S. territory satisfies the “natural born” stipulation.


20 posted on 08/26/2012 9:30:23 PM PDT by Elsiejay
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