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Fact Check: Social Security ordered 174,000 rounds of bullets, but not to quell civil unrest
The Florida Times-Union ^ | August 26, 2012 | Carole Fader

Posted on 08/26/2012 8:56:49 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Times-Union readers want to know:

Is it true, as an email says, that the Social Security Administration is buying 174,000 rounds of hollow point bullets to prepare for civil unrest?

As strange as it might seem — as in what does the Social Security Administration need with hollow point bullets? — this is mainly true, at least the part about the bullets.

The email talks of a request by the SSA to buy 174,000 rounds of “.357 Sig 125 grain bonded jacketed hollow point pistol ammunition.”

The email gets its info from the website Infowars.com, which published several stories about the request and referred to 41 sites across the country where the bullets would be sent (Jacksonville not among them). The email draws the conclusion that the bullets were for potential civil unrest:

“Social Security welfare is estimated to keep around 40 percent of senior citizens out of poverty. Should the tap run dry in the aftermath of an economic collapse, which the Federal Reserve has already told top banks to prepare for, domestic disorder could ensue if people are refused their benefits.”

The request for the bullets was real, obtained through the Federal Business Opportunities website, which all federal agencies use to post open procurements. You can see the request at tinyurl.com/9shjcvl.

After the Infowars.com stories were picked up by the Drudge Report and other such arenas, the questions caused the SSA to issue a statement that the ammunition would be used by field locations of the Office of Investigations, part of the Office of the Inspector General....

(Excerpt) Read more at jacksonville.com ...


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: bhofascism; obama; socialsecurity
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Maybe heading to Chicago?


21 posted on 08/26/2012 10:18:04 PM PDT by Mark (Don't argue with my posts. I typed while under sniper fire.)
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To: Greysard
However handguns are far less accurate. I doubt that there is much difference between different rounds, considering that, reportedly, an average LEO cannot reliably hit a threat from five yards away. 1 MOA difference does not matter when the operator's error is in excess of 600 MOA.

This is not entirely true.

The bullet weight has a substantial relationship to point of impact and sight adjustment. Essentially, the pistol is recoiling and the muzzle is rising while the bullet is still in the gun. Heavier bullets will shoot to a higher point of impact.

Practice should always be with the same weight bullets as service rounds.

22 posted on 08/26/2012 10:30:28 PM PDT by CurlyDave
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Bullets are those little thingies that fly through the air until they impact upon a target or fall to the ground.

Bullets are to cartridges as four is to bread, as cement is to concrete, ete.

When will they ever learn?

23 posted on 08/26/2012 10:39:40 PM PDT by Buffalo Head (Illigitimi non carborundum)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

America has the largest per capita of LEOs in the world. But those in the District of Criminals still don’t think it’s enough.


24 posted on 08/26/2012 10:41:22 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Buffalo Head

They don’t want to learn. These are the same people who think meat, milk, eggs and butter come from the supermarket.


25 posted on 08/26/2012 10:42:25 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: Sequoyah101

I could and have in fact shot 600 rounds up in the course of a few hours. it goes fast with high cap magazines. it may be fishy though. IDK.


26 posted on 08/26/2012 10:54:01 PM PDT by RC one
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To: fireman15

Your wife not only shoots..but has her own Mosin??

That is badass.


27 posted on 08/26/2012 10:55:06 PM PDT by Vigilantcitizen (Dave Mustaine for president.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Too bad they can’t do what the rest of us do: Practice with cheaper Full Metal Jacket bullets, and save a small number of hollow points for social occasions, and routine function and rotation shoots to retain confidence in mechanical function.

Of course, since it is just the taxpayer’s money, who cares, right?.


28 posted on 08/26/2012 11:17:12 PM PDT by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: Vigilantcitizen

Doesn’t EVERYONE have a Mosin ?? And if not, why not ?? (grin)


29 posted on 08/26/2012 11:36:56 PM PDT by Salgak (Acme Lasers presents: The Energizer Border. I **DARE** you to cross it. . . .)
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To: Salgak

EVERYONE should have at least one.


30 posted on 08/27/2012 12:10:52 AM PDT by Vigilantcitizen (Dave Mustaine for president.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I just posted an fbo request for quarter million rounds from the California USDA Forestry service.


31 posted on 08/27/2012 1:20:41 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I just posted an fbo request for quarter million rounds from the California USDA Forestry service.

Oh, and it specified they needed them within 30 days.


32 posted on 08/27/2012 1:21:07 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Aren’t hollow points banned by the Geneva convention?

Oh, but that’s only against our enemies. Against right wing Christian birthers and Obama haters, they are ok.


33 posted on 08/27/2012 1:30:54 AM PDT by Bon mots (When seconds count, the police are just minutes away...)
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To: Bon mots

police use hollow points to assassinate perps with knives and guns in midtown

lots of collateral wounded

guess they don’t know how to tase


34 posted on 08/27/2012 2:02:16 AM PDT by FlyingEagle
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Add that to NOAA 46,000 rounds of hollow point. Tell me why NOAA needs hollow points? Is the Dept of Homeland Security bound to a Constitutional oath? We have a major problem, and ammo shortages.


35 posted on 08/27/2012 2:34:57 AM PDT by momincombatboots (Back to West by G-d Virginia. 2016 starts today! Walker, Issa, Rubio,)
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To: CurlyDave; Greysard
Practice should always be with the same weight bullets as service rounds.

I would say not only weight. In addition to point of impact, there is muzzle blast, recoil, and in particular, possible malfunctions, - all different with different ammo.

36 posted on 08/27/2012 2:35:44 AM PDT by expat1000
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To: fireman15

My son bought a Mosin and it doesn’t extract the spent bullet. Granted we have only bought one box of ammo and it sometimes would extract but more often would not. Is it a common problem with the Mosin?


37 posted on 08/27/2012 2:43:10 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious that they are trying hard to ignore)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The Day Of Economic Reckoning Is Near: Economics / Great Depression II ties it all together into a coherent theory. Scary stuff.
38 posted on 08/27/2012 2:49:14 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: ClearCase_guy
And the advantage of training with hollow point bullets would be ... ???

It makes it easier for our government agents to tell which end of the bullet to put into the gun first?

39 posted on 08/27/2012 2:51:32 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: yorkie
I gave money to the Government, from every single paycheck for over 40 years. I did not get one cent of interest on that money. It was mine, for the government to hold, and USE as they saw fit, and then return in increments, when I was 65.

Sorry, Yorkie. You've been hornswoggled. Three Supreme Court cases in 1937 found the SS program to be funded by taxes and it is NOT an insurance plan. See The Helvering vs. Davis, Steward Machine Co. vs. Davis, and Carmichael vs. Southern Coal & Coke and Gulf States Paper. You pays your taxes and takes your chances. It has been unethical of the government to portray the program as an old age insurance program, but you can't sue Congress for their lies due to their immunity.

40 posted on 08/27/2012 3:12:55 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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