Skip to comments.If the Birther Issue Comes Up in Debate
Posted on 08/27/2012 12:59:06 AM PDT by Flotsam_Jetsome
Although some on the right were disappointed that Romney did not pursue this, he was wise not to. This was not the right time. The right time is during a debate. At least one moderator will find Romney's bait irresistible, and I am guessing it will be CNN's Candy Crowley. What follows is a proposed strategy for the Hofstra University debate on October 16. My guess is that Romney has pretty much figured it out already, thus the remark in Michigan:
CC: Governor Romney, in Michigan you told a crowd of supporters, "No one has ever asked to see my birth certificate." Don't you believe that the birth certificate President Obama presented last year is valid?
MR: I have questions about its validity, but that is not why I raised the issue.
CC: Why did you, then? Weren't you afraid that some people, minorities and immigrants especially, will see that as a subtle attack on President Obama because of his race?
MR: Candy, not at all. No one ever asked to see Jesse Jackson's birth certificate when he ran for president or Al Sharpton's when he ran. And they are both black, both proud representatives of the president's party. I raised that issue because of the unique uncertainty surrounding Obama's early years. I know I was born and raised in Michigan. I said as much. I would ask you or the president himself to tell us where he spent the first year of his life.
CC: Mr. President?
BO: Um, um, I am not sure I understand why this question is relevant.
MR: It is relevant because President Obama built his 2008 campaign, indeed his very persona, around the fact that he was born into a happy multicultural home. . .
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Hmmm, well considering Romney’s grandfather defected to Mexico, where his father was born, and it’s unclear whether George Romney ever became a naturalized citizen, Romney is the last person to throw stones.
IF that issue comes up Romney should simply invite 0bama to explain to the American people not only the reason he’s been using a Connecticut SSN when he was never a resident of that state, but to explain why he has spent well over a million dollars with the law firm of Perkins Coie to suppress and fight legal challenges to his Constitutional eligibility to hold the position of POTUS. Wind up that pitch with a question “Mr 0bama, were you lying then, or are you lying now?”
So he has even less proof then Obama?
Give it a rest. Even these guys admit that George Romney was a citizen (though not NBC) when Mittens was born in the US to citizen parents. That satisfies the constitutional requirement for the 2012 presumptive GOP nominee.
Cashill actually brought up the SSN issue in the hypothetical debate exchange. :)
Well, I hate to disappoint you, but I have great trouble with you saying that. As much as I disagree with Obama on almost everything, I think the fact that you say that reflects badly on YOUR CHARACTER, NOT HIS. Maybe your are just tired, but I'd recommend you reconsider it and apologize, because saying something like that about someone's mother is low-class and shameful.
See post #6 for your Daily Recommended Dose of Smackdown, lol
0% chance Romney says any of that.
I guess I have to give Obama credit, he has used this birth certificate issue to distract people from the real issues, and certain people have fallen for it, hook, line, and sinker.
Even if it’s true?
Nope. Not buying the argument. The thing that Mitt needs to focus on, if he is going to play this card, is the inconvertible fact that the Birth Certificate Obama released was an utter fabrication.
That, alone, indicates a level of contempt for the laws and the citizens of The United States of America that utterly exceeds anyone’s reasonable expectations for a President.
I am confident of Sheriff Joe’s findings. He had to be sure nine ways from Sunday that it was false. Too much at stake otherwise. And haven’t you noticed how quickly it was forgotten? The MSM slipped it right off the radar.
Talking about it during a debate, and then allowing the discussion to expand to other missing documents... this is Obama’s most horrifying fear because there is no way in Hell he can let anyone see the real documents.
But he won’t have that option if forced into a promise to produce them. If Romney can force his hand there, it’s checkmate — and all over but the shouting.
The only question is whether Mitt has the gonads to go for the jugular like that. I think he might.
I just think he might...
Anything to take the focus off the economy. If Romney said that, it would be a huge score for Obama.
Were you ever taught manners an etiquette when you were growing up. Or you believed they are some bourgeois capitalist plot to suppress the masses? i.e., are you a Marxist?
Writing and distributing a book is a BIG DEAL. The author of an autobiography should be and IS involved in every minute detail of the book. There is no way that blurb got into the inside cover of Obozo's book without his approval.
I'm pretty sure the photo shoot was au gratis.
Cuban Fire, baby.
What if he produces a valid document proving he was born in Hawaii? Should Romney then drop out of the race? Personally if Romney spends more than 10 seconds talking about anything besides the economy, he’s a fool.
He should just say “a lot of people have raised questions they would like answered, but fankly I want to talk about more important things, like where the next president will take the country”. That leaves the questions hanging, without opening Mitt up to charges of being a “birther”. Obama is going to lose on the issues anyway.
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No, but you might be. A real man fight like a man, against a man. Not cowardly insults against a woman. Can't you fight like a man. Or you letting the Dems pull you down to their level. Just a wake up call.
Interesting that he sent that to you. Did you give the whole $2,500? ;)
Your Pee Wee Herman defense “I know you are but what am I” is hardly worthy of you Nick. I think you might have a ‘thing’ for 0bama’s Mama, maybe even 0bama himself. Get some help.
Actually, this is how Zero has gotten away with this for so long. The only thing he should produce is an unconditional release to the state of Hawaii stating that all of his records are to be made available to the public.
And as far as Mittens goes, I still insist he should have released 20 years of tax returns (real or fake) with “CERTIFICATE OF LIVE TAX RETURN” printed across the top and dared the media to call him on it.
Fascinating 2ndDV, how in these final 71 days before the election we’re discovering all sorts of interesting things about posters who seem to bend over backwards to carry water for the Kenyan usurper.
(I disliked Clinton as much anybody else, but I always thought the juvenile insults about Hillary, Reno, etc. to be embarrassing.)
Is “RaisingCain” an alter-ego you created last spring, lest you get zotted someday, because you both speak in a VERY similar voice? He/she has the snappy, sophomoric comebacks that try to deflect from what is being discussed, too. Or perhaps you are confederates or just of the same personality type? I’ve seen this before here, and I’m 300% sure you’ll deny everything, but anyone who looks back at your posts should see what I mean.
By the way, Ronald Reagan agreed with me 100%. He would never, did never, make these kinds of comments. I’ll stand with Reagan against you and Howard Stern any day of the week. Good luck.
I'm not sure if you know this but there are well known naked pictures of Obama’s mother on the internet, so you really can't be tooooo hard on MKJ for making the joke. His hypothesis has merit!
I have been on FR for over 10 years and people know me. I can’t apologize for being a Reagan Republican, no matter how much you dislike it. I’ve posted 14,729 threads and 26,804 replies. You can go back and read ‘em all.
Fistly, the limit is $2,300, not $2,500, second, if the O4A ever sent me anything, there’d be 4-5 very sorry people at my nearest democratic headquarters who would transmit the message in no uncertain terms to never, ever mail me anything again, and third, you’re giving him so much in-kind support here that you might have to register as a lobbyist.
The only thing I am disputing is it’s very bad form to go around insulting someone’s mother, especially saying that. I’m curious, did your Mother ever teach you it was not acceptable to say something like that in public, or she taught you that was good manners?
By the way, if you found out something that bad or worse about Romney’s mother would you not vote for him? Do you want to be judged by either of your parent’s behavior?
I’ve posted 15,357 threads and 35,279 replies even though I got here about 5 years later (didn’t have a PC before that) but that’s not the point, is it? The point is that by putting down Romney, you’re pushing up Obama. There are only two teams. Pick one.
The sad part of this, it shows you what a pathetic state conservatism is in. This never even would have been argued before. Have you ever heard of Ronald Reagan? He would never have said such things, and he would not have tolerated from his staff and supporters. Maybe they can attack Reagan now.
There are two teams, Obama and conservatives. I ask Romney to pick one.
LOOK AT THIS,IT WILL BLOW YOUR SOCKS OFF!!!!!
Obama Admits Birthplace
Scroll all the way down and watch the video, It is Obama after he became a Senator. How come it never came out before now.
Obama admits not being born in Hawaii ...Speech apparently made just after his election to the US Senate.
Can one doubt HIS OWN ADMISSION? Where is Sixty Minutes?
Obama is actually on this video admitting he was not born in Hawaii but was born in Kenya and is not even a citizen.
Obviously he made these statements because he did not know at that time that a president must be a “natural born” citizen.. OOOPS!
Circulate this before they yank it from the internet.
Will some one tell me why this guy is not being impeached??
If you just watch the first 30 seconds your mouth will drop open.
Obama admits he is not a citizen
Hmmm.... Maybe the “birthers” are on to something....
THE AMAZING PART OF THIS TRAVESTY IS AMERICANS CONTINUE ALLOWING THEMSELVES TO BE RULED BY AN ILLEGAL ALIEN.
His first speech is apparently just after his election to the US Senate.
Both, Barack and Mitt are prone to saying things that they will regret, later. If, only, both of them could lose to an actual, decent conservative candidate, instead!
That vid has been out for awhile and has been totally discredited. BTW, Nick I understand your point and I think it’s valid.
I have never seen a FReeper call Ryan a conservative before he was named a VP. All I am asking is for him to reject Romneycare. He’s doubling down on it. Big mistake. He’s the one you should be mad at. He’s rejecting the 2010 election winning coalition. He’s the one who is rejecting those voters.
So you are now excusing me of being a Soviet spy? And insulting the Navy. Just because I go by Reagan. Don’t worry, I’ve been insulted for that before. Still and all, becoming a leftist to fight leftists won’t be a victory in the end.